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02-06-14  07:17am - 3973 days #5
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The TBP link for AT Kingdom doesn't work but I Googled it and that works. Mind you I don't see the advantage in joining the entire network for 100$ when you can join a couple of their sites for less money and get most if not all of what you would like. I tend to find that there is a lot of duplication from one site to the next. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-06-14  07:06am - 3973 days #12
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The porn industry has already been on this band wagon for a few of years now. It started when some genius decided to make parodies of different tv shows and movies that have either cartoon characters in them or women who wear full body makeup. Think of all those great (NOT) porn parodies like The Simpsons, The Smurfs, Star trek and so on. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-04-14  11:58am - 3975 days #3
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I'll grant you that she does have a certain resemblance to a young Elizabeth Taylor but it's stops at her neck because once you go below then you eyes can't help but see that her plastic surgeon did not do a very god job on her implants. The near the crotch tattoo doesn't help either.

She is still a very attractive young woman. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-04-14  11:50am - 3975 days #11
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^The price of corruption? I'm pretty sure it was very high before and it still very high now. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-03-14  04:51pm - 3976 days #7
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^Money is an issue for me as well but quality supersedes it. Of course since I currently have membership to about 4 or 5 separate sites and I am still primarily using stuff on my drives then it doesn't bode well for the future of porn if they keep raising the price and lowering the quality.. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-03-14  09:25am - 3976 days #5
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^I suspected that this is where you were going. I'm sure there must be a word or expression that would have a sort of similar meaning as glamorous to describe a facial or bukkake where it's more glamorous looking than basic gonzo but I don't know what it is. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-02-14  09:53am - 3977 days #2
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^I think most sites are looking at a middle ground solution to an ever growing problem. How much money can they charge their members so that they can keep getting new ones but not so high that they can't keep them. I don't know what the magical number is and I suspect it's not the same from one site to the next because their cost can't be the same.

The strange thing about art of blowjob is that by default their cost of doing business should be significantly lower than it is for most other sites because a BJ is a fairly inexpensive thing to shoot. I can't imagine anyone paying more than 200$ to maybe 400$ for a BJ scene so you are talking a 1000$ less than a standard b/g scene.

It's possible that the people behind x-art talked about making a more hardcore site but I can't see them going that way because x-axt is already the hardcore version of met-art. Unless I'm very wrong then the main appeal of x-art is that you get hardcore porn with a glamorous twist not seen on other sites.

I'd also like to point out that facial and bukkake negate the possibility of adding the word glamorous to describe this type of content. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-22-14  05:43pm - 3988 days #10
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I've bought my share of videos on clips4sale and I feel comfortable in saying that most (not to say all) of them are on the steep side of things. I regretted some of them but I still found some great ones that are exclusive to clips4sale so I couldn't have found them anywhere else and therefore it's a great find.

Of course I don't think you will get many people willing to pay c4s prices for non-exclusive content. Especially in the era of tube sites. I think the minimum price you shoud offer is 2$-3$ but depending on the scene than I wouldn't mind a 5$-8$ amount. After all your basic dvd has about 4 to 5 scenes and the price varies from 20$ to 30$ and the porn isn't necessarily any better on the more expensive dvd. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-21-14  06:00pm - 3989 days #31
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I don't have a psychology background so my following theory on plastic surgery/implants and performers may be close to the truth or a piece of crap. Mt theory is that performers for the most part are by nature insecure individuals who are often unhappy with themselves and choose instead of looking for a reason inside of themselves to alter their outward appearance. It does make a certain sense for them to do that when you consider that they make a living from their looks and must spend a lot of time thinking if not actually looking at their outward appearance. Knowing that then it sort of make sense that when they are unhappy then they think that a physical alteration is what they need to do to be happy again. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-19-14  09:39am - 3991 days #27
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^You'd have a hard time doing it because Erica doesn't have any nuts. Sorry but I don't think guys should take the blame for what women do with their bodies. I have read enough post from performers prior to them going under the knife and no matter how many guys told them not to get implants. The girls still went ahead with the procedure. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-18-14  06:07pm - 3992 days #24
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:




But then.... I go to 21sextury and find the following video intro "Erica Fontes wants to show off with her brand new boobs, so she calls Lauro over to check them out and share his opinion." and if you go to the link and watch the video preview then you'll see just how much she messed them up. Too bad


I prefer my women natural and if they happen to have A or B cups then I'm even happier so you know that Erica was right down my alley. That said I can't get too upset with her new breasts because the doctor did an amazing job on them and she didn't go overboard with the final size. My major issue with implants is that so many women choose a size that is so big that they stop looking like women and start to look like breasts with legs. It also never helps when they go for the cheap procedure that shows the scars. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-18-14  05:55pm - 3992 days #9
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^I don't need my porn performers to be drop dead gorgeous. A girl next door/plain Jane is more than adequate because I need more than looks to sexually stimulate me. What I do not want to see are bad cases of facial blemishes or the now ever present pimples on the girls ass or around her genitals. There are so many scene start great but become unwatchable once the camera zooms to the below the waist region. A good makeup artist could fix that but since the producers want to shoot the scenes for the least amount of money than that basically means that I have even less porn available for purchase. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-18-14  09:29am - 3992 days #7
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I'm going to throw this one in because I haven't seen it mentioned by anyone else. Is it possible that part of the problem is that technology now makes a very beautiful women less so because what was hidden behind a lower resolution image is now completely revealed in HD.

After all these women may be above the norm look wise but they are still human being and therefore prone to the same skin blemishes we all suffer from. It used to be that a model or actress could hide their imperfections behind a filter lens or the use of makeup but today's camera sees what past cameras did not. This problem is compounded by the harsh reality that many studios no longer use makeup artist. Badly applied makeup or no makeup at all is bound to affect what a model looks like. There is a reason why the word artist is used when talking about professionals who apply makeup. I know many studios think that they can photoshop the pictures after the fact and it's true that they can but the finish product is no longer the picture of a real person but is instead a computer generated facsimile where it's obvious we aren't looking at a real person anymore.

I'd like to add that it's quite possible that the current crop of models are not as impressive as the ones that came before them and that's why so many of us enjoy these new women but keep going back to past ones. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Jan 18, 2014, 05:45pm

01-18-14  09:05am - 3992 days #12
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^I completely agree with you that age for the most part has
a lot to do with it. I'm disheartened by the post I read on other forums because so many (I assume young) guys use what they see in modern porn as reference on the proper way to treat women. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-15-14  01:25pm - 3995 days #7
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I don't think it comes as a surprise to any member of PU that I'm a fan of anal sex. The only fetish that I'm a bigger fan of is lesbian porn so if there is lesbian sex and anal then I'm super happy.

Being a person who grew up watching porn made in the 70's and 80's then it's no wonder that I prefer a more natural type of sex scene. Now the word natural doesn't exactly mean the same thing when used in conjecture with porn so what I mean is that the scene should be more like a typical b/g or g/g scene where there is non-sexual interaction between the performers, dialogue, foreplay with clothes on, foreplay naked, kissing through much of the scene, oral sex from both parties, vaginal penetration which then switches to anal penetration but where it's slow and easy and not somebody trying to see how hard and fast he can stick his dick in that hole. I don't mind if there are multiple positions but none should include the women upside down with her ass in the air. The finish should be a cum shot inside or near the penetration point but definitely not in the face or where it involves the guy moving to achieve his target.

I can understand where rearadmiral is coming from because companies tend to pay a lot for a first of anything. This is especially true if the performer is very popular so they tend to the concentrate solely on that first thing while disregarding what makese that performer so popular. I was also thrilled when Lexi did her first anal because here was the Holy Grail of non-anal performer finally doing one and it was good. It was really good considering that she was a reluctant anal girl for such a long time but where you could have had an amazing scene that included everything I wrote above.

What you got was a typical gonzo porn scene with almost 5 minutes of Lexi playing with toys in her ass while wearing a skimpy bikini that didn't stay on for long and where the camera spends little time looking at her face because it's zooming in on her ass. Then it transitions to her already naked and James Deen wearing clothes. What follows is about 5 minutes of what passes for foreplay. We see some kissing(somewhat rare in gonzo), breast play, cunnilingus and an emphasis on anal play. Of course there has to be anal play. The camera is always down there. Did I mention that James is still wearing clothes in that part of the scene? Then he drops his pants and he's fucking her vagina in hyper piston mode. We are, of course, still getting anal play. This is after all her first on screen anal.

Seven minutes in and it's time for a BJ. I'm not sure why this was done here since he clearly already has a hard on but fuck it. It's gonzo and you have to have a BJ. We get about a minute and a half of that before we move to some
anal penetration with toys that last also about a minute and a half. Now it's back to vaginal penetration but with the added toy in the ass. You get a few minutes of that while they try a couple of positions. Then at the 22 minute mark it's time to remove the toy from the ass and make her suck on it. We now begin anal penetration in the spoon position. It's nice a gentle at first but the gentle penetration lasts about two minutes before he switches to hyper piston mode. What follows is anal penetration from spoon position to a couple of various RCG position that's reverse cow girl for those un-enlightened in porn lingo. At about the 28 minute mark we move to missionary anal. They edited the scene here(maybe Lexi needed a break) because one moment they are shooting in RCG and the next she is on her back and he's going in. There' is 2 minutes of that before it's transitions to doggie style. I'd like to point out that the move from missionary to doggie style is done while James is still in Lexi's ass and I don't think she enjoyed that very much but like a good trooper she didn't make a scene. Mind you after getting her ass rammed so hard that maybe she was a little numb.

We then get some more editing when the scene switches from doggie anal to CG anal (cow girl). We get about 6 minutes worth of CG anal and then we get some oral sex and the final transition is back to missionary and I think the only reason this was done was so that James could ejaculate all over her chest and face without actually moving.

P.S: Sorry for my very long post. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-14-14  10:22am - 3996 days #10
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^Maybe she decided to only do b/g work with her BF/husband and that' why she I always with one guy. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-12-14  09:33am - 3998 days #7
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^&^^I'm with both of you guys. Unless the music is very low and it in no way prevents us from hearing the performers then the scene will be wasted. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-12-14  09:31am - 3998 days #3
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The true (not pretend) real couple market is very limited because what you essentially get is the same girl with the same guy all the time. That works great for both of them but not so much for fans. How many scenes do you want to see of the same two people having pretty much the same type of sex all the time?


One of the biggest reasons why many female performers can't get hired is because they only want to shoot b/g with their boyfriend. Producers tend to cross their names off once they make that demand because they know that they'll never be able to sell the scene if there are already a few that exist.

R.B has already mentioned 3 sites where it's one-on-one with the women and her boyfriend/husband. You can add Kelly Madison to that list because she only shoots b/g with her husband. She does shoot with different girls but no boys other than hubby.

P.S: Chica's place seems to still be active and I think it used to be listed on TBP/PU but I would not join it because I really don't know what you will get for your money. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-11-14  06:18pm - 3999 days #25
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^If you read my previous post then you will have seen that VB is now partially updating with older content that can never be offered in HD because it was never filmed in that format and can't be remastered to be any better than what they were filmed in.

As to the other stuff they update with. They could offer more HD content but that is a huge catch 22. If VB goes down that route then they will have to pay more for those videos and if they do that then they'll have to increase their join price. I have no problem with a price increase but I suspect that there are now so many people that would scream bloody murder if VB even attempted a modest increase that they would lose more customers to tube sites then they currently do. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-11-14  06:10pm - 3999 days #4
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1-Why do you need 3 women in the scene? I can understand a scene where you have 1 woman and 3 men because that makes sense but a guy can really only service two women at the same time so the third one becomes pretty obsolete and more importantly a useless distraction. The camera can only keep track of one coupling so any scene involving 1 guy and 3 women will mean that you watching the guy with 2 girls or the guy with one girl and the other two are playing together but off camera. I that scenario the camera has to switch between pairings or have a wide shot.

2-I suspect that the people who produce porn think like I do and that's why you will find almost no movies with that type of content. You might find the odd one but that is more because they were shooting a different type of scene that just happens to include what you are describing.

3-Even if producers saw that there was a market for this type of porn(I don't think there is). They can't afford to shoot it because you are basically talking about a b/g/g/g scene involving one or more girls having anal sex. If I do a quick calculation using Kink's rates then a scene where you have one guy and 3 women will cost anything from 3500$ to as much as 4500$. The rate are dependant on who the performer are and what type of penetration they will do. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-09-14  06:41pm - 4000 days #4
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I'm still not sure what the current status is of Elegant as a porn making studio. There as been a few announcements on ADT since they were sold to new owners and there are also some new titles on their site. I just don't know how good these movies are or if they were filmed prior to the sell. If they are truly new then there is some hope for Elegant as a company if only because of their name but the bad news is that they lost all of their directors and now you have a new batch of people behind the camera. I haven't watched any of the new movies so I can't speak for their quality or lack there of.

Not sure if you should join Elegant again. I guess it all depends on when you were last a member.

I also have no idea if Mason will be able to get her movies from Elegant. I guess it all depends on who actually owned these babies. If they appear on Hard-X than you will have your answer Long live the Brown Coats.

01-09-14  06:21pm - 4001 days #22
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


Interesting discussion. I've been a member of VideoBox for at least 8 years. Their monthly rate is $15.00 regular and $12.00 at PU's special rate.

VB posts 5 full DVD's per day, 365 days a year, which means a member gets access to an average of 150 full length videos per month, or 10 cents per video. The average video has five scenes so the rice per scene is $0.02. Yes, they do have some "crap" but at 2 cents per scene I('m fine with that, especially because they have a lot more superb stuff than "crap.".



Although I will never knock VB for their ridiculously low price. In my opinion their better days are probably now behind them. These days they mostly update with recycled material taken from a mixture of sub-standard porn sites to some pretty good ones or they upload movies that are 5 or more years old. I don't mind the older titles because many of these movies are superior to what is done now but they will either have to start looking for much older stuff or they will literally run out of new material. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-09-14  06:10pm - 4001 days #3
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The only site that shoots exclusively gangbangs is Kink's Hardcore Gangbang site. I don't think you'll see the girls piss or squirt but that's about the only thing you won't see. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-09-14  10:09am - 4001 days #8
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I don't join unless it is through TBP.


I also try to do that as often as possible but I get some offers that no one can match and that's why I use them instead of going through TBP/PU Long live the Brown Coats.

01-09-14  10:07am - 4001 days #2
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This is the name of a new porn studio that was created when Elegant Angel stopped producing porn last year. There is currently no accompanying site but there should be one quite soon. At least the rumors on ADT were that it was suppose to come online in late 2013 so maybe early 2014 is now the new possible date of inception. My gut feeling is that they just don't have enough content to start a site at this time and they don't produce many movies each month so when will they have enough? Unless they can get some kind of deal where Mason (the main director for Hard-X) can have access to the movies she shot for Elegant then it's going to be hard for them to start a site that has only 4 or 5 titles.

For now you have to go through an AEBN site to stream their movies or download for steep amounts of money. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-06-14  06:59am - 4004 days #15
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^Not sure what she is doing but I believe her site is now dead. At least the last possible update was in September of last year. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-03-14  10:25am - 4007 days #1194
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^Siskel and Hebert were the masters of the review and you can tell that because everybody tried to emulate their styles.

I love talking about movies and TV shows because that is something that I am passionate about. It is too bad that so few want to do that but that's okay at least a few do. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-02-14  11:34am - 4008 days #9
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Thank you, Pat! Happy New Year to you and to our faithful porn users and staff! And I agree with your sentiments re. 2013's porn. It was a bad year, the industry was imitative and had run out of ideas. May cookie cutter porn be a thing of the past in 2014 (fat chance)!


It's worse for me because I don't really mind cookie cutter porn but if they would only use the right cookie cutter then I wouldn't mind it as much. The stuff that was put out in 2013 wasn't awful but it also wasn't very good.

I also have to say that this was the worse year for std's.
I've always suspected that std's are far more common than the industry would like people to know but those were for the most part the rather harmless/curable kind but with now
two consecutive HIV moratorium in less than 6 months and a minimum of 4 to as many as 6 performers getting HIV who may or may not have worked with others after being infected, as well as finding out that a male performer has been working for many years all the while infected with HEP C and the cherry on top of the sundae. There is a strong belief that the incurable strain of gonorrhea is now in the industry. The still fighting tooth and nail to shoot bareback porn industry.

This is one case where you really don't want this year to be worse than the last and you don't want to be the same because that would be worse. Long live the Brown Coats.

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I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone that is associated with PU/YBP and a big thank you to all the members that stuck with us this year and especially those that returned after a little hiatus.

I'll wish health and well being to all in the New Year but that goes double for some of our less fortunate members who are going through some harder time health wise these days.

I certainly hope 2014 is a better year for porn because I wouldn't want to go through another one like 2013. Long live the Brown Coats.

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^I also saw that movie but I just found it okay. The story is way too convoluted with some serious plot holes and a hodgepodge of characters that don't make much sense. I'm really glad that I didn't see this in a theater because I would have felt cheated out of my money.

It's basically disposable entertainment that you watch and quickly pass onto the next thing. The only thing that I'm still scratching my head about is the title. Why 2 Guns? Long live the Brown Coats.

12-28-13  09:08am - 4013 days #3
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The reality is that we really don't know how many women actually visit TBP/PU anymore than we know if any are now on the forum or were in the past. It's the net after all and it's not uncommon for people to pretend to be something they aren't.

That said. I suspect that many women are afraid to join porn forums for fear of personal attacks and a total lack of civility. Based on what I have seen on other forum then they are probably right to fear a less than gentlemanly interaction with other psoters. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-26-13  01:32pm - 4015 days #1190
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In case anyone was thinking of seeing 47 Ronin then let me save you some cash. Don't bother because it's a mess that no amount of CGI or editing could fix. I could go on a rant but instead I'm adding another io9 link since they do a far better job then I ever could.

http://io9.com/keanu-reeves-new-movie-ha...the-ronin-1489456200 Long live the Brown Coats.

12-26-13  01:29pm - 4015 days #1189
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I`m adding this lovely link to an IO9 article discussing what went wrong with so many sci/fi movies this year. it's not overly long and hits most of the key elements. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-26-13  01:28pm - 4015 days #1188
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^I don't think the reasons why TLR (The Lone Ranger) failed has anything to do with not well translating to the big screen because at it's heart it's still basically a masked hero cowboy who saves the day. I put the blame for TLR's bad box office takes squarely on the shoulder of producers who were trying to create another cash cow starring Johnny Depp but didn't actually bother with an actual story or even bother with writing well developed characters.

I get it. Pirates of the Caribbean was a gigantic cash cow but I maintain that without Orlando Bloom (the actual star of the movie) and his quest to rescue Keira Knightley then I wouldn't have enjoyed the movie. A large part of why I own 3 of the movies but only watch the first is because it does everything perfect and JD's Jack Sparrow character is there mostly to move the story along and add comic relief.

Once the weird and bizarre joker of the movie becomes the protagonist in subsequent films then you have a problem. You keep having to add semi-normal characters so that the audience can have someone to root for who they can sort of feel for.

Now back to TLR and why it bombed. I was born quite a few years after it went off the air so any episode I saw were already old but I have read about it over the years so I at least know the basics. The one undisputable fact that the idiot producers failed to grasp when they were imagining all the money that would come their way when their baby broke the billion dollars at the box office is that in a movie called The Lone Ranger. TLR is the main character and not is sidekick Tonto. There is no going around that fact but I guess if you are well known producer then you can. Of course that is until you look at the money this mess cost and how little it will make back. Good Luck getting Disney to sign off on future movies. I hope the next installment of Pirates bombs so that we can also put that mess to rest. Long live the Brown Coats.

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^I don't think the reasons why TLR (The Lone Ranger) failed has anything to do with not well translating to the big screen because at it's heart it's still basically a masked hero cowboy who saves the day. I put the blame for TLR's bad box office takes squarely on the shoulder of producers who were trying to create another cash cow starring Johnny Depp but didn't actually bother with an actual story or even bother with writing well developed characters.

I get it. Pirates of the Caribbean was a gigantic cash cow but I maintain that without Orlando Bloom (the actual star of the movie) and his quest to rescue Keira Knightley then I wouldn't have enjoyed the movie. A large part of why I own 3 of the movies but only watch the first is because it does everything perfect and JD's Jack Sparrow character is there mostly to move the story along and add comic relief.

Once the weird and bizarre joker of the movie becomes the protagonist in subsequent films then you have a problem. You keep having to add semi-normal characters so that the audience can have someone to root for who they can sort of feel for.

Now back to TLR and why it bombed. I was born quite a few years after it went off the air so any episode I saw were already old but I have read about it over the years so I at least know the basics. The one undisputable fact that the idiot producers failed to grasp when they were imagining all the money that would come their way when their baby broke the billion dollars at the box office is that in a movie called The Lone Ranger. TLR is the main character and not is sidekick Tonto. There is no going around that fact but I guess if you are well known producer then you can. Of course that is until you look at the money this mess cost and how little it will make back. Good Luck getting Disney to sign off on future movies. I hope the next installment of Pirates bombs so that we can also put that mess to rest. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-26-13  07:20am - 4015 days #29
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^The only way you would have an option for foreign language is if the site was in English but the videos were in a foreign language. Otherwise TBP/PU do not promote any site that is not offered in English.

I think I have found a site for you (see below link)

http://www.thagson.com/affiliates/?lang=en

I know that all their videos are not exclusively shot in Spain but you still get quite a few and for only 15$. In fact you can currently get an even better deal if you go to their join page and then try to leave because they will offer you the site for only 11$. At least they did to me.

There is Torbe (another Spanish site) but I think the network is now dead so all the content will be a couple of years old. It's 30$ and since the network is dead when it comes to update then how secure will you be that download speeds are still good.

I know there is a video site on TBP/PU dedicated to Latin American made porn but I'm still looking for it. It sucks because I know I saw it in the last three days but can't remember the name. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-26-13  06:52am - 4015 days #8
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^Maybe they would have stayed if he hadn't asked them to play with is jingling balls? Long live the Brown Coats.

12-25-13  06:56pm - 4015 days #25
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Originally Posted by jook:


Be kind, noobie here who did a search and couldn't find anything relevant...



If you had selected a site other than Hot Movies then I would have told you to go with them but you chose what I consider to be the best one out of a now dwindling group of PPV sites. The only other site to come close to HM is AEBN. They have many of the same movies as HM and they even have some exclusive ones as well but HM has more movies and a bigger variety to chose from.

The only thing both sites share is their rates which are way too expensive for my taste.

I'll have to think about sites that might appeal to you because I have a couple in mind but can' remember their names just now. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-25-13  06:42am - 4016 days #3
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Merry Christmas. May Santa bring you all that you desire. Long live the Brown Coats.

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^I am sure that Depp and Carter are friends if only because of what you wrote. My comment is meant more in regards to her character than the producers choice of actress to play that role. Read below if you want to know why I wrote that.

***Spoiler alert***Spoiler Alert****

All right if you or anyone else is reading this then you don't care to know some plot points from the movie. There are two main bad guys in the movie but one is a lot more obvious. At least that's what the producer and director were going for(they failed). The, for lack of a better, word main bad guy is Butch Cavendish. He's a disfigured man with a taste for human flesh(never really explained) but we at least know that he cut out and ate the heart of the Lone Rangers brother. I guess killing him and all his deputy wasn't enough to make the audience hate him. It's sort of implied that he ate the leg of Helena Bonham and that is why she hates him. She is on screen for a very short amount of time. Once when TLR(the lone Ranger) and Tonto go to a whorehouse that she owns to get some clues as to the whereabouts of Butch and his gang. Tonto knows her but that is also not really explained but who cares since so many other plot points aren't. She also makes another appearance toward the end to help TLR and Tonto with their plan to steal the silver from the other bad guy.

You could probably write her entire screen time out of the movie and you'd lose almost nothing in story development.

I like her as an actress and she has talent but she is wasted in this turkey. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-22-13  11:17am - 4019 days #1183
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I finally saw the mess that is The Lone Ranger. Wow where to start. This little gem clocks in at nearly 2 and a half hour long. That is at least half an hour too long but in my opinion is more like 3/4 of an hour too long. There are so many scenes that make no sense because that add nothing to the story and must have cost a lot of money to shoot.

I'm still scratching my head as to why Helena Bonham Carter is in this movie because she has one of these characters that doesn't add anything to the story except that she is the only other female character with any serious dialogue or screen time in the all male movie.

The plot is so stupid and convoluted that you need to take notes just so you don't get lost with the overall plot. I haven't figured out why the movie is being told to a little kid by an old Tonto. If anyone knows then please let me know because that is one of those things that might explain some of the other stuff.

There is a love interest but again that makes absolutely no sense and worse she is used to move the story along when it didn't need moving in the first place. You know you are in for a serious mess of a movie when within the first 30 or so minutes of the movie you have been introduced to most of the players but you never understand the relationship they have with each other. Possibly one of the better example is the love interest. We find out early on that she is married to the brother of the Lone Ranger but it's clear to everyone that she was in love with the Lone Ranger before he went to learn the Law. We are never told what happened to break them up or why she would marry and have a child with his brother.

This is the type of movie that could end the career of most movie actors, producers and directors Long live the Brown Coats.

12-22-13  11:02am - 4019 days #17
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Let me add some info to the thread.

The reality for us fans is that our beloved porn industry has been going down the s..thole for about 5 years but more noticeably so in the last two. That kind of upheaval is bound to have serious repercussions on every aspect of the industry. The first one is that we keep losing established performers and can't keep new ones any longer than 6 months.


It used to be that most girls would get into porn and shoot
for a couple of years and then would disappear but these days a girl will maybe shoot for 2 or 3 companies and then she will disappear and never be heard again. When you lose a newbie then there is always a new girl coming in but losing a performer that has been in it for 2 plus years then there is no replacing her.

Of course having 4 moratorium under 18 months is bound to scare even the most fearless porn girl into reconsidering her choice of career. I think this more than anything else is why so many women are leaving the industry. Getting a treatable STD is one thing but when HEPC and HIV get added to the gigantic mess that is rampant STD in the industry then who could blame a woman for choosing to leave.

Now as to bibo's OP. Lily did leave for a while but rumor has it that she is making a comeback. Of course that was before the most recent HIV scare so who knows what she will do. April did shoot some stuff recently but I think she is one of those performers that went the escort route and found the money was too good compared to porn so she mostly does the escort stuff now. Lexi hasn't actually retired but she did say that she will only do g/g stuff from now on
but she hasn't actually shot anything since saying that so who knows. Faye has been gone for about 2 or 3 years now. She didn't actually retire so much as stopped performing. I'm not sure the reasons why but I do know that it was found out that she has vaginal warts which I believe can't be cured. I can't tell you if this was why she is no longer performing but my money would be on that. Long live the Brown Coats.

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I've never been interested in that type of inquiry but that doesn't mean that I won't from time to time recognize a specific location but all of those belong to gonzo porn so it's probably the producers house. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-15-13  06:13pm - 4026 days #59
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I don't care too much if the performer is super model looking or she is the girl next door type but I do care about skin blemishes like pimples, razor burns, zits and the likes. Especially when they are in and around the genitals. Since so many girls now shave their bush then we have now had over a decade of girls with pimples and razor burns in areas that I never used to see. It's not a total turn off but I know that I cannot watch certain scenes simply because I do not enjoy looking at all those blemishes.

I want the girls to look the best they can regardless of what they were born with. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-10-13  06:14pm - 4031 days #3
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Let's just say that this is the kind of book that you don't want to open after making out with for a while because you may have serious nightmares afterwards. I have to remember this if I ever visit Thailand and think that the girl I'm looking at is really hot. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-09-13  07:42am - 4032 days #5
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Well the news seems to be getting worse because it would appear that he was a very prolific performer and if the current piece of news is correct then he even tried to book a scene with a girl after he knew he had tested positive. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-08-13  09:59am - 4033 days #4
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^The simple answer is that performers go where the jobs are and although California is the primary supplier of porn jobs. It is by no means the only one. There is plenty of porn shot in Florida and Nevada.

I agree that what happens in the US shouldn't affect Europe but the reality is quite different. Just because patient zero is from the US doesn't mean that he didn't shoot with someone who also works in Europe. All you need is for one person to give it to another and let the math do the rest.
It doesn't take much to go from a couple of people infected to a dozen. Especially in porn where most people shoot with multiple partners in a very short period of time.

The only reason why we have not had a huge HIV outbreak in the porn industry is because it is still relatively hard to catch HIV.


If the performer named on Mike South's site turn out to be correct then he is a very active performer who has shot quite a few scenes this year and is another crossover performer. Long live the Brown Coats.

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I just read on Mike South's site that there is another performer who tested positive for HIV. The news is fresh and it's not just him because the FSC has put out a press release.

This is now the 4th self-imposed moratorium in 15 months. No wonder porn production is an all time low. It's really hard to shoot porn when you are shutdown. No pun intended but the porn industry is fucked. How many performers will now quit over this mess. Established stars are quitting left and right while many others are switching to g/g only content. I don't blame any of them and I hope that many others do the same because this may be the only way for the industry to get it's shit together and fix what is a major problem.

http://www.mikesouth.com/ Long live the Brown Coats.

12-03-13  06:35pm - 4037 days #34
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I don't think I'm wrong when I say that everyone is glad to see you back messmer. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-03-13  06:32am - 4038 days #24
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


It's not like Trolls are evil, but they can be a nuisance and disrupt a forum. It's sad they have nothing else to do, so being a Troll has to be one of the saddest hobbies around.



My problem with trolls is that there is no way to have any kind of meaningful dialogue because no matter which point you put forward. They always have a reply that has nothing to do with what you wrote and worse is likely filled with vituperative. I used to try and have a conversation with trolls but I got tired of being called names and frankly it was obvious that no matter what I said. Those people were looking to cause trouble and nothing else.

You have to be a pretty miserable person to troll the net because you basically make sure that you are a pariah on almost every forum. Who exactly considers that to be a kind of medal of honor? Long live the Brown Coats.

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