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03-15-18  06:27pm - 2473 days #216
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Hillary Clinton was always going to be a controversial candidate for the Democratic Party. She carries a lot of baggage with people from her time as First Lady, and starting with a high disapproval rating like she did is a bad start for any candidate.

Hillary failed the key test of 2016. When Bill Clinton ran he had a sign on his campaign headquarters wall that read: "It's the economy stupid." Though she outlined many policies, she failed to address the fundamental economic insecurity that was the crux of this election.

Onyx, it's ironic that you talked about it being "Hillary's turn." That's how the Republicans decided their presidential candidates for decades. Dole, McCain, and Romney were all taking their turn for the Republicans. 1980 had a brutal primary battle between Reagan and Bush. 2000 had one between Bush and McCain. But usually the Republicans have one standout candidate in the wings. Remember in 2014 how commentators said it was Jeb Bush who was the prohibitive favorite for the Republican nomination? Brutal, bruising primary fights were usually the provenance of the Democratic Party. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

03-14-18  10:47pm - 2474 days #213
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Trump won election because of an insecure middle class that's seen their economic opportunities wither while Congress dithers. He promised to jump start the economy with tax cuts, infrastructure spending, deregulation, and protectionist trade policies.

I don't think people cared about whether he was a womanizer, a racist, fickle, or corrupt. They cared about whether they and their families would survive another four years with declining economic opportunities. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

03-11-18  12:46am - 2478 days #207
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I like arguing too. I argue with pretty much anyone/everyone when it comes to politics. If they're receptive and open-minded enough not to just reiterate a bunch of partisan talking points it's fantastic. I can learn new things, and maybe they can too.

I don't care if lk2fireone posts this thread, any more than I didn't care about the rants that came at Obama from the right. If it makes him feel better, so be it. I read them, shake my head, and despair for the republic--not because the policies will ruin us, but because I fear normalizing bad behavior by the president will damage the republic. But life is lived regardless of the whims and pettiness of the political class. Some of Trump's policies have hurt me badly, and he plans to keep bringing on the pain. Some are just stupid, corrupt, or morally and/or intellectually bankrupt. But no matter what the President or Congress does, I have the obligation to live my life to the best of my ability. I keep telling my friends that the republic has endured to this point, and will endure longer. People on both the right and the left disagree on policy, or the role of government in people's lives, but talking to both liberals and conservatives I find most value our republic, their state, and their community. They just have different ideas on what to do to make them better.

Onyx, I appreciate your opinion, and try to put a good deal of thought and care in my responses. I don't want to really go into policy here--it would bore the PU community to tears and I feel this isn't the right venue. But if you're really interested in policies that help America, be they left, right, center, or totally out of the box, you'd be a worthy debate opponent. Email me off thread if you want to talk policy. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

03-10-18  11:44am - 2479 days #205
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I can propose all the policy specifics you want. What would you like to debate? I'm just not sure this is the right venue for a long, detailed policy argument, which is why I have refrained. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

03-10-18  03:42am - 2479 days #203
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"Platitudes?" Really? All I said is that it is the duty of all citizens to see to the well-being of the republic. When I was a kid, that was called "patriotism."

I don't care what causes a person cares about. That's very personal, and I didn't want to engage in a hyper-partisan BS war about policy. Be the cause left or right or center (or something else entirely) it doesn't matter, it's just important that people petition the government to see that the policies they want are put into place. That's the simple root of democracy. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." Edited on Mar 10, 2018, 03:45am

03-09-18  04:32pm - 2479 days #201
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Protecting the health and well-being of our republic is the duty of every citizen. It is vital people stay informed, vote, and mobilize to support causes they care about. Without that kind of activism, our republic will fail. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

03-05-18  05:21pm - 2483 days #6
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I find that occasionally I too find myself discouraged I can't find that fantastic new site I've never seen. My way of dealing with it is to just take a month or two off from collecting and viewing porn. Then when I come back to it I feel a sort of excitement about looking at sites (even ones I've been to often) and at my collection.

As Onyx said, it ties in to how the dopamine receptors in the body work. You get numb to the buzz eventually. Best to stay away from the stimulus to reset your dopamine receptors. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

03-02-18  02:27pm - 2487 days #2
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Elon Musk was born in Pretoria, South Africa. He holds South African, Canadian, and U.S. citizenship.


Oddly, Musk once called himself a Bond villain. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-27-18  01:22am - 2490 days #177
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Originally Posted by Onyx:


So...you trust opinions you've not read... from people you don't know anything about...cuz journalists must have mad skillz?



I didn't say I believed or disbelieved the journalists in question. I wasn't addressing that point.

If you read my comment, blind faith in anything is imprudent. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." Edited on Feb 27, 2018, 01:31am

02-26-18  06:50am - 2491 days #175
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Onyx, everyone has a political opinion about some issue. No one is absolutely ambivalent about how government affects their lives. Just because a person has a political agenda doesn't mean that they aren't qualified to opine about things they are experts about (or even not experts about).

I didn't read the journalists in question. I didn't see who wrote the articles. But journalism has a core set of skills, like any occupation. That they let some political bias enter into their work doesn't make their work inherently worthless.

Trusting in people with "demonstrable skills and actual accomplishments" is kind of a dodge of my point about anti-intellectualism. The journalists you mention have demonstrable skills--they are nationally published journalists, so have skill in their craft and are accomplished enough to be published. I agree that blind trust in a degree or credential is unwise, but blind trust is unwise in general. Hence the pejorative, "blind." I trust journalists to have a core competence in their field, but that does not translate to a blanket faith in their opinions or naivety about their general veracity or competence.

My main point was to point out an anti-intellectual bias, the idea that a "successful" person in one endeavor is more competent in general than a person who has modest success but great knowledge of their field. I was not trying to conflate education with ability, nor associate general competence with expertise. If you don't believe thorough study and expertise in a field gives the expert's opinion about their field of expertise more credence than a non-expert's then that is unfortunate.

We likely judge things differently. Viva la difference!


Addendum: I highly recommend Richard Hofstadter's "Anti-Intellectualism in American Life." It explores the cause, rise, and effects of anti-intellectualism, which Hofstadter attributes primarily to the democratization of knowledge. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." Edited on Feb 26, 2018, 07:22am (Loki: added addendum)

02-24-18  04:42pm - 2492 days #173
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Originally Posted by Onyx:


You think the opinion of someone is worth reading because they are professional? The only requirement for being a professional is that you are paid. It's something akin to the "argument from authority" fallacy. How many of these "professionals" have accomplished 10% of what Trump has?

I've worked with professionals, people with supposedly impressive credentials. I found many to be incompetent.


Does this apply to medical advice? I'll take the advice of a "professional" doctor over a guy on the street any day.

Similar analogy applies to any endeavor. I trust people who study foreign policy, military readiness, or anything more than people who don't. It's a sign of American anti-intellectualism (which has a long, sordid history in the US) that makes the opinion of an ignorant man equivalent to that of a learned one. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-19-18  01:45am - 2498 days #3
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The couple on the Delta flight showed incredibly poor judgement. Now they likely face a life of being registered sex offenders. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-19-18  01:42am - 2498 days #164
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


It goes hand-in-hand with the media "echo chamber" effect whereby people select only news channels that reflect their political leanings.


I can't believe anyone really does this. Knowing all media has some bias, it is kind of naive to rely only on one or two sources.

I routinely read Politico, the AP, and Reuters, all considered "left wing," but also read Fox News and Red State, considered "right wing." I don't use social media, so don't get any news from Facebook or the like.

Maybe I'm just unusual in that I try to understand both sides' points of view, and give a decent amount of skepticism to claims by both sides. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-18-18  02:44pm - 2499 days #7
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Originally Posted by Onyx:


This is the reason Google's services are all "free".


There's an old saying, "If you're not paying for a product, you are the product." "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-16-18  07:13pm - 2500 days #6
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Originally Posted by pinkerton:


Which video convertor do you use?


I use VSDC Video Editor-Free Edition. It's a free program from Flash Integro. I've never had any problems with it.

I usually use the "highest quality" setting when editing videos. I do that fairly frequently, but don't usually mess with changing the file sizes of most vids. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-16-18  01:25pm - 2501 days #3
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It does sound like a JAV porn scene.

Cute. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-16-18  01:22pm - 2501 days #2
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My video converter uses 1920x1080 at 8000Kbps as a default. A lot of scenes of those dimensions are at a much higher bitrate. It saves me disk space to convert the files, but usually I only worry about it when I'm running out of storage room.

I also edit down some files to get only the action I want. That significantly reduces the size of some files. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-14-18  09:40am - 2503 days #3
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I always liked AsiaMoviePass for downloading complete JAV movies. It's clunky to navigate, but has both pixelated and nonpixelated Japanese porn scenes. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-13-18  08:55pm - 2503 days #33
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Originally Posted by merc77:


I served my country in the military to protect the people's right to say whatever the fuck they want to and to kneel instead of standing during the National Anthem.



Thank you merc77, and all other veterans, for your service to this country. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-12-18  12:04pm - 2505 days #4
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I don't use a download manager. I used to, but I found it to be a hassle to set up and run. I just use the browser to do my downloads. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-12-18  12:20am - 2505 days #3
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Funny, but when I think of "Return of the King" I think of Middle Earth and JRR Tolkien, not snowboarding. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-09-18  09:17pm - 2507 days #7
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Amanda, I too can see a link to email other users on their profile pages.

The links were active. When clicked they took me to a page where I could email other users. I tested several, but didn't actually send email.

Hope this helps. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." Edited on Feb 09, 2018, 09:47pm

02-09-18  10:23am - 2508 days #10
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


Surely some other folks have some 2017 favourites!


PJGirls blew me away. I joined in early 2017 and have been a member all year.

DDFNetwork and Nubiles-Porn also were faves.

Biggest disappointment for me must be the decline of ATKHairy. It's gone through some really rough times recently, but I quit in mid-2017. You can only go through so much with a paysite. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-08-18  09:49am - 2509 days #157
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Freedom of speech in the United States is only protection from government censorship. It doesn't give people the right to say or do whatever they want without regard to other peoples' sensibilities and any repercussions that might result.


Quite true, the First Amendment only prevents the government from telling us what we can and can't say. Forums are not protected outlets, but I still think that banning a topic of conversation is an inappropriate way to deal with the issue. I think people have a responsibility to be courteous and decorous with their comments. If a person crosses the line, it's a duty for the forum moderators to intervene. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-07-18  04:35pm - 2509 days #154
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Banning a type of speech is a poor way to deal with people abusing their freedom of speech.

I've always liked the PU community. There's plenty of room for us to disagree on what kinds of porn we each like, and that doesn't make us turn on each other. But mention a political issue and it's like everyone grows fangs and claws and is looking for a death match with an ideological opponent.

I don't really understand why it's so hard to try and see the other person's POV, and if you can't, why you can't just accept that their beliefs are different and respect that.

Maybe I'm an idealist, but I don't like the idea that we have to censor speech because people can't be respectful. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-07-18  09:25am - 2510 days #152
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I agree. PU and politics is a volatile mixture which can only hurt PU.


I respectfully disagree. Part of the problem with polarization in that people of differing political ideologies don't mix in an open-minded and respectful forum. There is nothing that precludes liberals, moderates,and conservatives (and others) from being respectful and thoughtful with each other.

That said, if PU finds political discussions off limits because they get heated, a few suspensions of forum privileges or a policy of "no politics in the forums" can rectify the situation. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-03-18  02:38pm - 2514 days #24
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I don't follow the news like I used to. Part of the problem with politics in America right now is the people actually pay too much attention to whether their party is "winning" or "losing" in every political tussle. This makes it almost impossible for compromise.

I think most people head to Washington DC with the sincere intention to do good by their country, state, and constituents. When they arrive, they find out that half or more of their time is given over to raising money for reelection, and that they have to be party stalwarts or face the prospect of their party backing some other candidate in the next primary.

Politics has always been a dirty job. Alexander Hamilton was called the "son of a Caribbean whore" and Gerrymandering (representatives picking their voters, rather than the other way around) came about with Elbridge Gerry. It's just that we obsess about it more with 24/7 news coverage. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-02-18  09:47pm - 2514 days #21
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Originally Posted by Onyx:



"The press release highlighted reports from Harvard, the Media Research Center, and Pew Research Center that show the media has given the president overwhelming negative coverage through their highly-biased coverage."




There's a difference between "overwhelming negative coverage" and reporting false stories. One is editorial slant (which sells papers), and the other gets reporters fired. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

02-02-18  09:36pm - 2514 days #20
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Originally Posted by iknowwazzup:



I also don't always get the purpose of such jokes (not just in the US, but in any country) - I mean beyond the low hanging comedy fruit that they represent. Most people aren't going to change their minds about a leader or his/her party - let alone their votes - based solely on comedy routines. It just seems to pit voters and party supporters against each other in an even more derisive fashion.

Maybe, I am taking it all too seriously, though?


I think people of all stripes take politics too seriously. I'm no fan of Trump, but I also disliked Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama. Every presidential election seems to be a race to the bottom for the worst two possible people to potentially run the country.

Politics was a relatively niche interest when I was a kid, and only since the Republican takeover in Congress in the 90's did politics seem to be on everyone's radar. It would likely be better for the country if fewer people payed attention. Then maybe Congress could do less playing to their base and more compromising to fix the serious issues that plague our nation. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

01-22-18  11:19am - 2526 days #3
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Maybe he could still sue for alienation of affection.


Only six states (Hawai'i, North Carolina, Mississippi, New Mexico, South Dakota, and Utah)still allow torts for alienation of affection. It was largely abolished in the push for no-fault divorce. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-27-17  01:04pm - 2552 days #58
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Even low unemployment gets negative views here because the tech employment boom has resulted in soaring rents and horrendous traffic. It seems that newspapers can't print anything good. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-26-17  07:59pm - 2552 days #4
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I embraced the whole Dirty Old Man thing years ago. Welcome to the club! "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-26-17  07:56pm - 2552 days #56
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I feel the anti-Trump hysteria from the left is as bad or worse than the anti-Obama hysteria.

Presidents cannot do too much without Congress, and Congress has been inept the last few sessions. There's a reason why Trump polls at about 40%, and Congress at less than 10%.

I don't like Trump, and would have preferred he not have run, but I don't see it as the end of the world. Not watching TV or following social media really helps keep me more optimistic about our country.

@Onyx, I'm glad you find reason to be optimistic. Here in Silicon Valley it's always doom and gloom about politics. It's nice to be reminded that that's not the feeling everywhere. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-25-17  12:14pm - 2554 days #54
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Originally Posted by Onyx:


If you think the policies are harmful all I can say is that I believe time will show their benefits despite what the media says. I think there is reason for great optimism.


I don't get "talking points" from media. I read a lot of different sources and then filter out what I can of the politically biased bullshit.

I see Trump as a symptom in the decline and rot of American democracy. It didn't start with him, but he sure isn't doing anything except speed its happening. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-24-17  08:36pm - 2554 days #13
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Originally Posted by Peter Porker:


Riley Reid > Mia Khalifa

I don't understand Mia's popularity at all.


Riley Reid is attractive and has great skills, but she's another petite, white girl. Mia Khalifa is exotic looking and sexy. If I had to stare at one of their faces every day, I'd choose Mia's over Riley's any day. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-24-17  08:19pm - 2554 days #51
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Trump was totally unqualified to be president. No other American has reached the presidency without either being in elective office or running an army.

His policies may have the stock market booming, but the DJIA is not a reflection of the underlying strength of the economy. I had to correct many of my clients about that when I was a financial professional.

Many of the policies you mention (repealing the individual mandate, opening up Arctic Wildlife Refuge to drilling, the appointment of Gorsuch, the Keystone Pipeline) are deeply dependent on one's political viewpoint. Every one of those is a negative to almost everyone I know, regardless of party.

Furthermore, Trump supports autocrats instead of our allies, praises those who repress a free press, belittles individual citizens, and is undoing the hard work of previous administrations both Democratic and Republican to build a rules-oriented financial and military order in the world.

He's deeply polarizing, but so were Carter, Reagan, Bush (sr), Clinton, Bush (jr), and Obama. But at least all of those people were qualified when elected and behaved in a responsible manner both on the campaign trail and in office.

The hate is reflective of the venomous bullshit that President Trump tweets out every day. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-24-17  08:04pm - 2554 days #9
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Let's do like a porn site review:

The Pros:


The one pro about this movie is that it ends and you can go home to watch literally any other "Star Wars" film and feel better.

(In talking with my fellow "Star Wars" geek friends, only one has a positive view of "The Last Jedi." It's the most polarizing film in the "Star Wars" saga. You either liked it or hated it.) "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." Edited on Dec 24, 2017, 08:22pm (Loki: added second paragraph)

12-22-17  07:19pm - 2556 days #40
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Free trade is the engine that created the post-war prosperity for the entire Western world. It has come under fire for the shortcomings of globalization, though those shortcomings were well known and preventable, but due to a lack of political leadership nothing was done.

Domestic steel production is doomed. It's simply too expensive to pay Americans to make steel.

Free trade will create winners and losers. It's the fault of past administrations and Congresses that we have very little in place to help the losers.

Some things that are known to work:
--apprenticeship programs
--job retraining programs
--investment in infrastructure
--investment in education
--a strong social safety net

America lacks most of these solutions. It's not because no one knows what they are, but that they cost money that Congress isn't willing to spend.

The fault lies with both political parties. The politicians won't talk about substantive issues and instead talk about straw men and bogeymen. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-22-17  01:55pm - 2557 days #10
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Jack Lord would have put a whole different spin on "Star Trek" tos. I still think I liked Jack Lord best as Felix Leiter in "Dr. No" but I never watched that much Hawaii Five-0. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-21-17  04:24pm - 2557 days #6
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Saw "The Last Jedi" today. I went in with an open mind and a lot of hope that "Last Jedi" would deliver. It failed.

It was overlong, too funny for a Star Wars film (like a parody of a Star Wars movie, not a film in the franchise), and had too many story lines.

It ranks as the only time I've ever seen people check the time during a "Star Wars" film. A lot of people.

I narrowly disliked this movie, but others might like it.

@luthien "God speed rebels" probably sounded better in the script than "Force speed rebels," which sounds even worse. Han mentions seeing the Rebels in hell when he rides out his tauntaun to find Luke on Hoth in "Empire Strikes Back." That felt weird then, and the "God speeed rebels" sounded weird now. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-18-17  06:51pm - 2560 days #3
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I'm nervous about seeing "The Last Jedi." I hated "The Force Awakens" and fear that "The Last Jedi" will be more of the same.

For the record, I am a huge "Star Wars" fan. I remember standing in long lines to see the original trilogy, and the anticipation (and disappointment) I felt about the prequels. Still I think the prequels were all less a disappointment than "The Force Awakens." "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-18-17  10:06am - 2561 days #18
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Originally Posted by Onyx:


I believe my 1st modem took > 7 minutes to download 1 MB


Ah, the good old days of 400 baud modems. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-17-17  02:46pm - 2562 days #9
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Originally Posted by Jason33:


Am I the only one that thinks Lana Rhoades is hotter than both of them combined?


No. Lana Rhoades is gorgeous. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-17-17  02:43pm - 2562 days #13
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I wrote my last post when I was really tired. I really shouldn't do that anymore.

@lk2fireone and @onyx, you've basically answered what I wanted to know when I started this thread. Thanks. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-17-17  02:40pm - 2562 days #16
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I totally agree the FCC is the wrong place to make internet policy. It should be legislation passed by Congress.

Good luck in *that* happening. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-17-17  02:39pm - 2562 days #4
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You don't want to call them to cancel--they're an India-based company. Int'l long distance to cancel a porn subscription is just a deal breaker.

Truepay is a fintech company that's about two years old. Here's an article about them:

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/fintech-startup-truepay-to-reorient-focus-on-merchants/article9512841.ece "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-17-17  01:52am - 2562 days #14
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


The Federal Communications Commission has, by a single vote on its 5-member committee, ended net neutrality.


Many FCC decisions were 3-2 votes. It's not inherently good or bad, and the FCC is a political agency, so at least they have a vote on issues. It's better than putting the power in either the hands of an individual or up to popular opinion. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-17-17  01:48am - 2562 days #13
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Originally Posted by Onyx:


I think a business should be able to offer the services it wants, how it wants, and suffer the price if those services are not popular..


True, on a level playing field, this is ideal. But the internet won't be a level playing field without net neutrality.

I'm not worried about content getting to the consumer. I'm more worried about some businesses being extorted to be put in the fast lane by ISPs. Small new companies will find it hard to pay to compete with the internet giants. This stifles competition. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-16-17  05:28pm - 2562 days #6
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I usually buy one site a month, and try to keep it in between $20 and $30 if I can.

I will however splurge to get a good deal for yearly access. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

12-16-17  05:21pm - 2562 days #11
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I guess it all comes down to whether or not you believe your ISP has the right to pick and choose winners in the economy. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

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