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02-12-09  06:41pm - 5791 days #7
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I tend to agree that most of todays male performers are treated in the same way as the couch or bed ie: as furniture. How many of us can name more than 2 or 3 of todays male performers? I could easily name five from the early days of porn. Each had his own style and therefore the girls tended to react differently with each of them. It's true that we watch porn for the women. Take them out of the equations and none of us will watch porn. Todays gonzo no longer requires acting talent, but when you had story driven porn then the
guy was important. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-12-09  06:26pm - 5791 days #10
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The fact that in America anyone can run for governor, senator or president is both amazing and commandable. What is less so is when anyone does get elected. No offense but minnesota elected Jesse The
body Ventura as their governor. What qualification did he have that made him such a great choice for the position??? If I'm not wrong Mary Carey has ran twice in California. I also read that Stormy Daniels wants to run for the senate in Louisiana. I just don't think that the fact that she is an ex-pornstar should ever be mentioned. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-11-09  07:06pm - 5792 days #3
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I tend to lean toward jd1961 on this one. I grew up watching 70's porn where the cum shot was primarily used to prove that the sex was real and not fake. It was usually reserved to the body part nearest the exit of the penis ie: in doggy it was the buttocks or lower back. In missionary it was the pube(yes in those days they were still there) or lower stomach. From time to time you had a blowjob that resulted in cum in the mouth(rare) or face(also rare). The last one involved actresses with above average breast. These became the primary instrument for the masturbation and therefore the breats were the recipient of said cum shot.

At some point the cum shot became a stand alone sex act. You have movies and websites dedicated to just that. I may be a little old fashion, but I find that most of todays cum shots are degrading to women. You don't feel that the women want it as much as the men want to give it to her and they will pick the most offensive place to deposit it. I rememeber a series of movies called red eye. The main thrust of these was to cum inside the eyeball of the performer. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-11-09  06:54pm - 5792 days #4
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Porn for me is like food. I love to eat different things. I may prefer one food over another and there are some foods that I will never eat. The main things is diversity. I look at Porn in the same way. I enjoy B/G stuff and I enjoy lesbian stuff. I do not watch gay porn (ie: male/male). I think foreplay which includes touching and deep kissing is a must. I think penetration whether with a penis or it's rubber equivalent is also very important. I love to watch anal sex. There was a time when I thought the same thing about dp's, but nowadays the extreme style of dp's and in some cases anal, make me cringe and lose wood real fast.

I tend to agree that POV is way overated. It was OK in the days of Ed Powers. The girls he was having sex with were newbies and wanted only him in the room. That meant that he had to be innovative. Most of todays stuff involves girls that are pros, so that reasoning makes no sense. Most of todays POV smell of narcissism more than anything else. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-10-09  06:29pm - 5793 days #18
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


I agree with Willaim here. The interaction would be much better if it were another woman.

This thread reminds me so much of BangBros and how much they drove me nuts, especially with their BangBus series. The first 15 minutes of most videos does not even include a woman, it is just them driving around bull shitting. As if we really care!


I think from having read about them on other forums that Bangbros wins the contest of being the most annoying site due to the constant talking. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-10-09  06:27pm - 5793 days #8
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Originally Posted by atrapat:



The thing is the model at Love Gisele looked great in the various teasing pictures I had seen (both face and body) but when I eventually saw her topless at a cam show it was a bit of a letdown. It was also, or perhaps mainly, a problem of attitude on her part. But members at Cam With Her rave about her nude shows so perhaps it was bad timing or too high expectations on my part.


I think you've hit on something that often happens with a model known for non nude that decides to make the jump. THey create such a high expectation that they rarely if ever satisfy their core audience.

It's similar to pornstars that hold on doing certain acts like anal, dp, IR, guys for a amount of time. They also rarely satisfy. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-09-09  06:36pm - 5794 days #14
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If the talking in question is part of the interview process than I have no problem with it. Of course the questions being asked may annoy me. I'm all for getting to know a little about the performer, but if the questions are really stupid then don't bother. I know that it's fairly important in BDSM to have a beginning and ending interview so that you know the perfomer was not dupped into showing up at a Max style shoot and now that she is there all she wants is to get it over.

Talking during the sex scene is only worth it if it adds to the overall quality of the scene. I don't think hearing the cameran or director (who cares) asking that the girl plays with herself or something is of any value. (except to add more fuel to this forum) Long live the Brown Coats.

02-09-09  06:22pm - 5794 days #6
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Originally Posted by atrapat:


I might be mistaken but, as I mentioned in my Cam With Her review, models there offer non-nude shows or topless-only shows at different rates.



Sorry atrapat. I was simply thinking that since you said she looked better with clothes on. That she is likely to make more money by wearing clothes. I may have assumed incorrectly but your statement left me to believe that she has a beautiful face but the body does not match. My bad if that was wrong. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-08-09  06:05pm - 5795 days #4
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Originally Posted by atrapat:


Don't know it first hand but I'd say topless for sure but nothing else.

She's a Cam With Her model. At Cam With Her message board, they say her new site is topless. She certainly gets topless in her VIP cam shows there. The site is a bit expensive and, IMHO, she looks better with clothes on.


That would be a new one if your members pay you not to take your clothes off. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-08-09  08:59am - 5796 days #16
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Never saw Shivers (1975), but did see most of Cronenberg's other films. He is strong on violence and horror.

Crash (1996) was a critically praised film he directed. The idea was that the violence and damage from car crashes unleashes/renews sexual energy.

Rabid (1977), the first film of Cronenberg I saw in a theater
The Brood (1979)
Scanners (1981)
Videodrome (1983)


By the time of The Dead Zone (1983) and The Fly (1986), Cronenberg had moved up to much bigger commercial projects, and his films are now nominated for Oscars and other awards, but they don't have the same impact on me as his early movies. The early films were, at the time, almost like a kick in the head.

I saw Marilyn Chambers, star of Rabid (1977) and a bunch of famous porn films at a Glamourcon convention in Los Angeles a few years ago, and she still looks very good.


You have to see Sivers. You won't be disapionted.

I've always thought that the bulk of his work has to do with science gone wrong. There is often an underling sexual theme as well.

Let me add two more of Davids movies:
Dead Ringer: 1988
Existenz: 1999

Marilyn Chambers is one of those rare stars that has had a porn career that spanned 3 decades. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. I don't think we will see many others with that kind of longevity. Of course by todays pornstars standard, she did very few movies. I counted 34 from 72 to 2007. That number is quite small when you condider that it's less than some pornstars do in a year. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-07-09  06:41pm - 5796 days #14
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Rabid (1977)
Not really a porn film, but a good grade B horror movie with an interesting twist on violent sex (not the same as the abusive sex in current porn).
Starring Marilyn Chambers. Written and directed by David Cronenberg.


I'll add to the list with David Cronenberg's Shivers. That movies entire premise is sex. There is a scene with Barbara Steele that involves a parasite and a bathtub. There was a kind of similar scene in the movie Tie me up Tie me down involving Victoria Abril a toy submarine and a bathtub. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-05-09  06:58pm - 5798 days #8
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I read all the post and I think that the original statement about the guys having a hard time cumming from a girl giving him a hand job is more because these guys screw all the time and that they have a hard time simply cumming. If you think about it there are far less male performers than females. In most movies the girl might have 1-2 scene in general, and half the time the other scene is just a lesbian one. Guys only do one thing. I don't know but a career as a porn performer is rather creepy to begin with. We might joke and say that we want to be pornstars, but frankly having to go to work where you have to screw a girl who's on her second scene of the day, and the first one was a double penetration creampie and she hasn't really douched since the last scene might make it real hard to get a boner. Hell it would make it hard for me to even want to kiss her.

There have been a few crossover porn actors that started in the gay world but switched to straight only. I'm unsure if these guys were pitchers only or if they did some catching as well. I was never that curious about it. I guess some might have been gay for pay, and others simply experimenting. The only one who seems to be doing a little of both at the moment is a performer called Christian. At least that's what I read on some forums. He gets a lot of flack for that fact and is unofficially on some female performers black list.

There is still a very strong taboo about performers appearing in gay
porn. That kind of thing can make you unbookable. No matter that most gay porn is mandatory condom use, and therefore far safer. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-03-09  07:18pm - 5800 days #18
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Just a guess, but is it some illustration for "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea?"


It is a drawing from 20,000 Leagues under the sea. I read that the are remaking the movie, so that inspired me.

P.S: Wittyguys reply was too funny. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-02-09  06:56pm - 5801 days #15
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Part of the problem is that porn for so long was so generic (70's to early 90's) that when the rougher stuff started coming into the spotlight it was was probably a perception that going edgier was the only way to go. In other words, given that most porn isn't exactly high brow entertainment it was just easier to up the shock value to get viewers than to create better (aka more thoughtful or better produced) porn.

Now a days, I think the Circus Porn stuff is just an extension of fantasy. I don't many guys are going to get away with spitting on their g/f or wife or pulling her hair without getting a reciprocal foot up his ass. A lot of sites still kick out poorly done generic porn so the circus stuff with the DD Botox Babes has sort of become the default fantasy setting. Frankly, I vote for a reboot of the whole system.


I'm one of those people who was first introduced to porn by watching movies made during what is now called the Golden Age Porn. I'd say 70's and 80's. I'm affraid that by the time the 90's appeared gonzo was too far on the rise to be able to include that decade in the Golden Age.

I have to disagree with you Wittyguy, and say that porn made in those days was anything but generic. There was the 16mm loop stuff, but if we are talking features then I cannot think of a single one that did not have an actual story in it. I'm not saying the story was good, but there was one. I will agree that the sex was very generic. In their defense. This is a time where nudity on TV did not exist, and it was still rare in mainstream movies.

You might say that porn was still a little innocent. Not to mention but you would have had a hard time finding more than a couple of stars willing to do a reverse cowgirl double penetration. That is after you had to explain what it was.

It's possible that the circus porn is a fantasy for some guys, but I don't think that most of us want to jerk off in our girlfriends hair. I mostly think that since most directors today couldn't direct themselves out of a corner than their porn is likely to be just as simple: girl, boy, suck, fuck, jerk off, and then roll credits.

I hope you are right about that reboot. There are so many great movies from the Golden Age that could be remade with better lighting and better camera angles. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-02-09  06:36pm - 5801 days #14
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Originally Posted by jd1961:


Premium Japanese Adult Video is where you'll find this; with some extreme stuff as well.

But a lot of people can't get past the mosaics.


I'm one of those people that has issue with the pixelating.
Why must they do that with the genetalia? I haven't seen enough Japanese porn to have an educated opinion, but of what I have seen. MOst of it contained a large amount of mysoginistic attitudes toward the women. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-01-09  07:10pm - 5802 days #9
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Sigh .. my dream!


Mine too.

The only place I consitently find these things today are in lesbian films made by Girlfriends studios. Some of the
other studios are Wicked, Vivid, Digital Playground, and I may be forgetting a few. Although most of these others tend to have the pre-requisites, more often than not their stuff just doesn't appeal to me as much as Girlfriend studios. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-01-09  07:01pm - 5802 days #4
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


There do some to be porn fans with crazy amounts of money - the people that hire escorts, many current or former porn stars, through sites such as BodyMiracle.com as prices of $1500/hour, for example. Or the Europeans that fly to AVN every year. For these people - direct your own porn would be a great concept.


You are right that there are some porn fans who don't have any problems with paying that kind of money. I think you'd agree that those people hiring pornstar escorts do not really want to direct. They just want to have sex with them. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-01-09  09:48am - 5803 days #2
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I like your idea of a site allowing us to direct a scene, but even if it was possible. I'm sure the price would be too high for most if not all of us. Here is what I come up for a simple boy/girl scene with vaginal penetration only. Female: 800$, Male: 600$, equipment: 2000$, rental space: 100$, clothes 100$. You have now spent 3600$ and you still haven't started filming and editing. Most of us complain when we have to pay more than 25$ for a website. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-01-09  09:33am - 5803 days #7
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


The stuff really does reach the PT Barnum "freak show" status when most of the women are, as jd said, tatted-out and titted-fake. (Well, I'm paraphrasing a bit.) And ugly. And fat 'n chunky.

There are some American sites on which most of the women look like this. UGH!

In my porn, I want to see fresh beauties doing it, not slags.

And the abusive stuff has got to go, too. Sex should be pleasurable, not painful or degrading. That shit gives porn a bad name.


There's a significant increase in the amount of performers who have chosen to get breast enlargement. It used to be more in North America, but sadly Europeans decided that they wanted some as well. I'd say that today it's pretty much 50/50.

I have to be honest,and say that I can't think of a single site that has ugly and/or fat & chunky performers. You'll have to name some for me.

My problem with circus sex is not because of the general
appearance of the performers, but the entire scene (as I stated above). I'd say that there are far more good looking girls performing in circus sex then there are average looking ones. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-31-09  06:05pm - 5803 days #5
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I agree with messmer that a pourcentage of what you call circus/zoo sex may very well be done to cater to the more de-sensitize porn viewer. I belive that it's very small amount. It's more a question of economics and lack of talent.

This is my lost of what is needed to film a good scene:
A makeup artist, clothes for all performers (these must include underwear as well as outer wear), dialogue, actual
set (sofa, bed and side of pool don't count), lighting, professional videographer, good director, proper editing and chemistry between the players.

All of these things cost money, but even more importantly take a certain amount of time to produce.

In circus porn you don't need a makeup artist because the girl does it herself. You don't need clothes because it's the girls own bathing suit. Dialogue is limited to penis size, which orifice is being penetrated or chocking and slobering sounds during blowjobs, the set is a sofa or a bed, lighting is whatever is in the room at the time or sunshine, professionnal videographer my ass. I know how to use my brand new HD cam(at least I would if I'd read the instructions), I can direct this myself, because I've seen tons of movies, editing is too complicated instead lets film about 3 hrs of footage, and edit nothing out. This way we can charge more because it will take 2 dvd's, and we can call this a new style of raw sex, and finally how can you have chemistry between the performers when one of them has spent the last half hour slapping, chocking, spitting, and generally trying to open your body orifice large enough to drive a train through all the while in the most bizarre and uncomfortable positions??? Long live the Brown Coats.

01-29-09  06:52pm - 5805 days #8
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I honestly miss the writing a little too. Now, thanks to all the Maxims and their spawns, you have practically as much nudity as Playboy without actually be a nudie mag. Plus, their "articles" are little more than advertisements simply telling you what to wear, eat, drink, think, and then what pill to swallow to make it all feel better.

Most sites are no better because you have too many douchebags making porn just to "meet lots of women" and score some cash, so when they try writing something on their site, well...it don't read very good much. At least Playboy actually published articles (considerably more than 100 words) that were written by writers, and employed real photographers as well.


I think you have just described most of what passes for anykind of entertainment today. Whether it's TV, music, movies, books or magazines. There was a time when all of these things were made not to sell something else, but to actually entertain us. Yes, they made money from advertising, but the content wasn't geared for you to buy something specific. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-29-09  06:48pm - 5805 days #18
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I hadn't even heard of "Vivid" until TMN started to show their movies on late night cable. What a bunch of utter, monotonous, over-acted garbage, showing the same porn actors over and over again. After having sampled a few of their videos I now click my way past the channel as quickly as possible.


If I'm not wrong. They have been in business for 25yrs.
I agree that they have a large section of their library that appeals more to the softcore market. This makes them ideal for cable or late night TV. In large part because many of their movies have an actual story. Even if you cut out the hardcore section. You aren't left with 10 minutes of footage. I can't think of a single gonzo movie that we can say the same thing.

I have been aware of Vivid for many years and they did produce some amzing stuff. Finding it is very hard because they love to release comps upon comps until you don't know if you have all the scens in it from aprior purchase. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-27-09  07:00pm - 5807 days #8
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


There was an article on MSNBC.com the other day about the porn recession, which is real and the business overall is down more than 10%. One of the funny quotes was by Steve Hirsch of Vivid talking about how they're better off than most because they are known for such high quality - I practically spit. Yeah, right. Vivid is known for high quality. Vivid is known for having a lot of hot exclusive contract girls that they waste in a despicable manner making crappy cookie-cutter porn. They're doing well because they are piped into every hotel room in the country so bored travellers will buy their crap.


I think that everything you said about Vivid is so true. If it weren't for the cable rights. I don't think Vivid would be where they are today. I can't completely crap on Vivid because they have produced some good stuff over the years. I just wish that they would better use their talent. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-26-09  07:13pm - 5808 days #14
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I also miss talking to those guys. I can understand the need to cut back, but I wish that this didn't also involve not participating in the forum. Afterall I can't say that I'm a big reviewer, but I still like to give my opinion.
I'm not sure if anyone cares to read it, but at least I made the effore.

It's my hope that whether they comeback or not that they at least are healthy and happy. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-26-09  07:06pm - 5808 days #5
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That is a valid point wittyguy, because like you I've been hearing about the porn recession for the last 1-2 years.

I think one of the reasons why we haven't seen anything being done is because frankly the people involved in the porn industry don't give a damn about any of us. If they truly cared about our opinion then most of us would not be writing or complaining about most of the shit happening in porn today. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-25-09  06:48pm - 5809 days #4
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I remember my old collection of playboys which I threw out 15-20 years ago. Who knew that it would be worth money today. I stopped buying them long before the disapearance of the bush. If I hadn't then that would have sealed it for me. I can understand wanting to see more of the pussy, but that doesn't require the removal of all the hair. I would love to see the return of pubic hairs, but fear it will never happen.

In defense to some of the predictions from some of these older magazines on many subjects. The fact that we have not had a nuclear war is more a miracle than anything else. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-22-09  06:52pm - 5812 days #31
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


The implications are just awful. Surely Mr. and Mrs. Coke-Crazed-Crackhouse-Whore-Alcoholic-Chain-Smoker couldn't possibly be responsible for little Bobby's bad habits, or the fact he didn't make it on to the board at HSBC. That and the fact he's an incompetent bumbling oaf with the IQ of a lemming and the charm of a piranha with tooth ache. Surely society is to blame, and the movies, and the comics. I thought it was Tom and Jerry's fault little Johnny raped and killed those 25 women just before tea time. That, or the Earl Grey was cold.


Not to dissagree with your Squirrel, but in all likelyhood Bobby's parents were not crack addict, but 2 well to do people making a shitload of cash by any means possible, all the while finding every possible way to pay the least amount of taxes. You know that kind. These are the same people who had no problem making 20 million in bonus pay, by creating some false numbers so that te company looked like it was making money. These are the same people crying to the Government that they don't know what happened, but they need money, if we want the economy to start again, but more importantly they do not want any Government regulations. Little Bobby has the 2 best role model to become a perfect sociopath....His parents. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-18-09  07:06pm - 5816 days #10
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Some thing to consider as well is whether websites flag the IP address of suspected fraudulent customers and then advise companies like CCbill, Epoch and other providers that this customer is not to be trusted. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-17-09  06:15pm - 5817 days #5
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I would strongly recommend that you not share a password. When you join a website then you more or less sign a contract with that website. It may not always be obvious, but read the fine print and you will see a mention on the consequence of sharing your password.

Let's say that for argument sake there is no penalty.
Why would you allow anyone to acces a website under your name. Don't forget that for all intense and purposes you are still the owner of that membership. What if the person with whom you share that password is somehow able to access your credit information as well. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-17-09  12:25pm - 5818 days #4
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


I'm wondering if I should get a big monitor - like 24" LCD since the prices are so low now.

I looked in the forum history and it's been awhile since people were yakking about equipment. I've got a nice 19" Dell CRT, which looks nice, but I'm wondering if I'm missing some real oomph factor when I look at pics on sites such as Babelicious.com, ALS Scan, Met Art and such.


A 19" monitor is pretty big for a computer. I'm still using a 17" one, and I don't have too many complaints. I don't know how much more you'll get from an extra 5", but the fact that the prices are so low makes the investment worth it. If you can sell your 19" for a couple of bucks then even better. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-16-09  07:31pm - 5818 days #117
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I didn't realize they were making a remake of the Prisoner, and with an American in the lead no less? Blast. That seems kind of wrong. I might have approved had they had cast someone like James Nesbitt in the lead. I recently watched "Jekyll", the 2007 BBC series and he was epically awesome in that. I hope they do a second season at some point - apparently it is already written.

Anyway, I'll check out The Prisoner when it is released, but I worry they'll focus on the wrong themes in the original and lose what made it is so good.


I'm worried that they will not understand all the nuances of the original, but then again most material translated from British TV to American TV has been a disapointment. I like the choice of actor because he never telegraphs is parts. If he's going to make a movies then it's not half ass for him. The actor slated for the part of number 6 is James Caviezel. IMDB link: www.imdb.com/title/tt1043714/.
I tought he was amazing in the Count of Monte Christo. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-15-09  07:12pm - 5819 days #15
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I tend to agree with your satement that people prefer to remain anonymous. That's too bad, because the more voice we can add, the more views we can get. MInd you a 1000 member is not that bad. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-15-09  07:05pm - 5819 days #16
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There are a few reviews that aren't worth reading because they tell you nothing about the site. Now some of these are from newbies and I know how tough it is at first. I'd like the people that have writen those to maybe revisit their review and amend them.

One of the big problem with priotizing reviews based on score as oppose to chronological order, is that people are more likely to read the first few ones and not bother with the others. That means that if a newer review is not very good, but brings a major negative change to that site, then we probably won't know about it because we are only looking at the top ones.

Not all websites increase in quality with time. That's why I prefer the chronological order. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-14-09  07:10pm - 5820 days #110
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Patrick McGoohan. Although it has been many years since I've seen him in anything. I was kind of hoping he would make a cameo in the remake of The Prisoner. Number 6 is finally free.

Ricardo Montalban. The man who made the expression Corthian leather is own. Mr Roarke is finally reunited with Tattoo. May they make Fantasies come through.

These people were part of my childhood. I can say that both will be missed. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-13-09  06:49pm - 5821 days #3
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The porn industry and mainstream media are both suffering at the moment. I think it may get worse before it gets better. I agree with Witty that this is mostly in DVD sales and rentals. Of course now that TV, movies and internet all release material on DVD I guess it affects pretty much everyone.

Here are a couple of suggestions for porn and funny enough they even apply for mainstream stuff.

1-Stop making crap. Just because you've used the newest technology and best lighting. A piece of turd is still a piece of turd.

2-Give the people what they want. Stop making movies for yourself. Although you may be happy with it. The rest of us are not.

3-Using the same performer, playing the same character in the same type of scene gets tiresome after a while. There are other actors, or if you are going to use the same ones then be original and alter their appearance or the setting.

4-Stop the reality crap. It was original 10yrs ago, but now nobody believes the bullshit that these people say. How about instead of pretending that you aren't an actress. You instead be an actress and pretend you are someone else.

Sorry for the rant, but I feel better now. I'm not suprise that the entertainment industry is suffering. We are oversaturated with mindless, sugarcoated, junk that has no value to it. The good stuff gets loss in all the junk. How many of us saw 5 good movies in 2008? Be they porn or mainstream. I'm not talking OK stuff but a movie that you've seen more than once and still enjoy. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-10-09  06:00pm - 5824 days #4
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That is a tough one. I'm with atrapat on this one. without a lot more information this is nearly impossible.
For one thing the movie could be much older than mid 90's and that adds to the difficulty. There have been many movies with a school as setting. I can't think of one that involves your particular description. I'm assuming that it was a US movie and not one dubbed? Long live the Brown Coats.

01-10-09  10:10am - 5825 days #18
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


Hi Pat,

Just so we're clear on this: I don't think people who use these dolls, or any dolls, are even remotely interested in necrophilia. I just said the association arises due to the nature of the dolls, all that cold, dead weight. I also don't think a person using a miniature doll would become a pedophile, or has leanings in that direction, just that the idea of manufacturing childlike sex dolls is, in my opinion, immoral. Check out some of the Japanese companies. At least one of them, and I can't remember the name, makes miniature dolls that are the size of children and which look like children. I know it's treading on touchy ground to make sweeping statements and to generalize, but the idea of this rubs me the wrong way.

I've got nothing against people who enjoy these dolls. I've even visited a few doll forums and read through some of the threads. I frequently think about what it would be like to have one, to be honest. Many of these guys simply find it extremely difficult to socialize normally and to become involved in sexual relationships. I can relate to that. I am extremely shy and awkward around women and have been with only two in my entire life, two long-term relationships which were initiated in both cases by the woman. Were it not for these women being strong enough to make the first overtures, I would still be a virgin.

Peace.


Sorry Witty if you got the feeling that I was thinking that your post implied that real doll users might have necrophilic tendencies or become pedophiles. I was trying to agree with you that they don't. I visited the Real doll site yesterday and read the faq page, and one of the subject was about doggy style and they reccommnded that the customer have somekind of support under the body or it would next to impossible. I'm guessing that cowgirl or reverse cowgirl would be the same.

I did find a few websites other than the Real doll one and I don't know if they are more child like or by virtue that they are designed along the lines of a Japanese then they appear so. They do have some that are more child like but unlike real dolls they aren't designed to allow anykind penetration. They are more like a child doll that is life size. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-10-09  08:58am - 5825 days #22
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I'll had my voice to yours in wishing that Cybertoad makes a comeback. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-09-09  07:02pm - 5825 days #15
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


I started a thread about Real Dolls here called, "Mom, Dad, I'd like you to meet...", but it didn't fare very well.

Personally, I find the idea fascinating but decidedly creepy. Many people associate these dolls with necrophilia, and I have to admit that I made the same connection myself without reading anyone else's thoughts in that regard. Mind you, this isn't to say that people who use dolls are necrophiliacs, or even remotely curious about that fetish, just that certain associations arise, due to the totally dormant, cold, non-responsive nature of the dolls.

First, the dolls not only look real, they are very heavy. You have to literally lug them around, as if they were an actual body. That was the point for me when I realized I could not own one, even if I could afford the cost. Not only that, I live alone and I think I'd be spooked with one of those dolls around. I'm a major skeptic and don't believe in anything supernatural, but it would almost be like having a cadaver around. I've seen pictures of these dolls, not many, but some that are well-done, which are spectacularly convincing. Plus, I know myself too well and I'd be embarrassed to actually mount a doll.

Sex dolls of various types get even more flack than Real Dolls. Certain Japanese manufacturers make realistic dolls that look so young, and so small, they may as well be children. That is certainly dangerous, and immoral, ground. Other manufacturers make realistic torsos, female bodies with no arms, no legs, sometimes no heads. Now how would that feel? I saw a video of a demonstration of one such torso, with head, and the breasts looked absolutely real. Can't remember the company now. Wikipedia had a link to it on the Real Doll page that has since gone missing.

All that aside, there are some mere toys that look interesting, Cyberskin thingies that are just a buttocks and openings, which look very real, and supposedly feel real as well (much doubt from me). Then there is that pesky Fleshlight. I must admit I'm kind of tempted to get me one of those. No nooky for four years now. Not good.


To give you an idea of just how far Real Dolls have gotten. You simply have to watch a movie starring Ryan Gosling called: Lars and the Real Girl.

I don't know why anyone would think that a Real Doll has anything to do with necrophilia, because if that was the case then they wouldn't be made to look as real as they do. I'm pretty sure it would be easier for them to make them look dead.

I've picked up a box which contained a mold of a pornstar made out of real skin (which I assume is the same material as real dolls), and eventhough it's les than 1/5 a Reall doll, it was still about 5 lbs, so you can imagine the weigth of a full doll with an internal metal frame.

I notice that they now make some with an anime look to them. These have a more childlike appearance than the old models. I suspect that they probably can make them look however they like. I'm kind of thorn on this issue, because afterall is said and done these are just dolls. I don't think that anyone who buys the anime model will become a pedophile anymore, than someone who buys a replica hand gun will become a vigilante.

I can't remeber who it was but there was a writer for a magazine that tried one of the Real Dolls and he was quite impressed. On the plus side if you live in a city that has car pool lanes then a Real Doll could be a great investement. Think how much gas you'd save by not being in treaffic as often, and you'd make the other driver by having this hot chick in your car. Just don't stop anywhere for lunch, because people might think you are a caveman for letting your girlfriend sit alone in the car while you eat. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-07-09  06:35pm - 5827 days #6
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I think ramscrota dislike of stilettos is in reference to video footage. Sadly stilettos are great when the person is not moving, but very few women can pull off a good walk wearing heels that are like needles. Of course those that do can really had some sexyness to a scene. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-07-09  06:19pm - 5827 days #5
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


The whole concept of a doll is just too damn creepy for me. First, you know it isn't real. Second, it won't ever feel real (maybe in a few decades and spending huge $$ you might find something close). Third, even if it had the super high tech privates that made it feel real it would still just be creepy and the experience would be nothing like real life (let's face it, a doll just sits there ... you sometimes get that in real life but you don't have to settle for it ;). A doll just sort of crosses the line for me.

Yeah, I can't wait to start reading the news of the weird about guys spilling beer on their "device" and frying themselves or their privates. Try explaining to people why you're in the hospital again ....


Real Dolls are kind of creepy, but for me it's not the fact that guys or girls have sex with them. The creepy part is how real they look. If you had never visted their site then I wonder if you could tell whether a picture of one is a real person or silicon. Mark my words, if they haven't done it yet, then very soon you will see a Real Doll with some servo motors, inner heating elements, and movable parts that make them appear even more real.

I think that it will be easier to explain how you somehow electrocuted your private parts then how you got that hammer handle stuck up your ass. I wish I could remember where I read or saw the article, but it involved certain people and what they had to have surgicaly removed from certain body openings. I think there were some x-ray as well. Too Funny. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-06-09  06:35pm - 5828 days #2
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No clue, but then again that is one small picture. Your best bet is trying to identify that tailbone tattoo. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-06-09  06:31pm - 5828 days #3
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I can all ready see the headline: Man electrocuted while using new virtual sex machine. A man was found dead this morning. Apparently he misread the instrcution on proper voltage and hooked is masturbation machine on 230v. One of the witnesses was heard saying now that's a hot-dog.

I appologize for this side line. I just had to release my inner beast. On a more serious note, I seem to remember talk of somekind of adapter that you could hook up to your computer and would somehow masturbate you at certain times during scenes. I didn't think anything had come of it. It is a little weird, but since it is a gadget most guys would be curious to try it.

What do you guys think of Real dolls? Long live the Brown Coats.

01-05-09  06:13pm - 5829 days #14
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I'm old school porn, so I remember a time when there were no naked girls right at the beginning of a scene unless she just happened to sleep in the nude and that's where the sex scene begins. I much prefer the tease, so a semi nude girl and for me that's any girl that does not show any of the naughty stuff is great, but at some point I do want to see the naughty bits. All tease and no nudity sis not much better than all nude and no tease. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-05-09  06:08pm - 5829 days #4
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I joined webelez.com last year or 2 yrs ago. I noticed that they haven't changed their layout which was a mess back then and is still one hell of a mess. It is difficult to know what they have updated since the last time. If you like your lesbian porn on the nasty side, then there are a couple of scenes that will satisfy. In my case the cost would be the biggest sticking point. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-05-09  05:58pm - 5829 days #25
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Originally Posted by ramscrota:


Great reply, pat362. Shouls I put that on a business card, with an appropriate picture?


The business cards is a good idea, but do not put any photo of your genitalia on it. Here is why: 1- No matter how well endowed you think you are. The image will be small. 2-After all is said and done, the people who will receive your business card are men, and last time I checked we don't like to walk with other guys thing in our hands. Even if it's just a photo. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-04-09  10:40am - 5831 days #22
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Originally Posted by ramscrota:


Interesting remarks. I totally agree with the remarks about limp dicks. Makes you wonder of they've been wanking or screwing all night before, and can't get it up. You'd think the prom producers would tell them to refrain from sex/masturbation for 3 days before the scene! Or, call be in! I'm not the best looking guy, but I know I could keep a stiffy with some of those women sucking it!


You could hire yourself out as a stuntcockman. Normally I'd have to charge you for this but as a fellow forum poster. Here is a possible advertising: When your actor is just not up to it, just call ramscrota because I always am. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-04-09  10:36am - 5831 days #10
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I'd love to hear from those that have joined sites without nudity whether you were hoping for some nudity inside the members section. As well if the no nudity means that the model doesn't do something like wet t-shirts. In my book a non-nudity site means that the model is always wearing clothes and does not reveal anything.

I prefer that any site involving nudity also has the models dressed. I don't know about the rest of you, but my biggest turn on is imagining what the girl looks like under those clothes. There is the anticipation, then follows the tease, and has more clothes are removed you get more and more excited. I think that this is my biggest turn off of most of todays pron. Nothing is left to our imagination Long live the Brown Coats.

01-03-09  07:51pm - 5831 days #20
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


It had to be scene with Brigitte Kerdove, who is top on my list of most cock-deflating porn performer of all time (well, not including the dwarves and other such circus porn types). I watched some of her stuff because she was compared to Debbi Diamond and Careena Collins, who I love, but yuuuuuucccchhhhh!!!


I don't know if you were one of her fans, but for some reason I never really enjoyed watching any of her stuff.
She did do some seriously twisted stuff, but her look never appealed to me, and that was before the plastic surgery and fake breast. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-03-09  07:47pm - 5831 days #4
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Originally Posted by Star138:


I just read a post about sologirl websites, and what everyone thought of them...

my question: has anyone here ever joined a Non-nude solo girl website? and if so, why?

I just don't understand why anyone would want to pay $30 a month for pictures of a girl (regardless of how hot she is) when she's not even nude?.. especially when there are so many other sites with so many girls, that ARE nude..

is it just me, or does that seem silly?


start138, It's just you...Sorry I couldn't help myself.

In reply to your inquiry. I don't know why anyone would pay anything for a non-nude solo site. Unlike atrapat, I'd feel cheated if I tought a girl got nude on her site and found out that she didn't after I joined.
I'm pretty sure that all of us join a site to see girls in various states of nudity.

I can understand joining a site thinking that the girl does some hardcore material and finding out that she does not. There are quite a few of those with ambiguous wording in the preview page. I tend to steer clear of all of those. That's false advertisisng and these people do not deserve my money or for that fact anyone else's. Long live the Brown Coats.

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