I tripped over this site again the other day. The photography is awesome and the models are beautiful but I notice several 10+ year old photo shoots among the samples. Has anyone joined lately?
Well done review, thanks. It is interesting how different our perspectives are on this site as for me it is one of the lowest scorers among the 20+ VR sites I've joined so far. I totally agree that the video quality was good (it should be good) but I just didn't think the models/pornstars were attractive and the few popular ones had oddly done make-up. (I'm from the US, so eastern European make-up, especially bright colored eye shadow, is hard to watch for me.) Perhaps it has improved since I reviewed it or perhaps a little time will change my perspective, so I'll go back and watch some of the 48 VR vids that I kept from this site. Thanks!
Even when I'm scanning and only downloading the things that I want, I have hit limits on a few sites, mainly In The Crack. I also think that sites that sign you up as streaming only without telling you are pretty much committing fraud. That includes Playboy Plus, Twisty's and a bunch of other sites managed by the same sleazeball company. Fraud. The expectation is that you will be allowed to download anything you "see" unless specifically told otherwise. Limits are one thing. Bait and switch is fraud.
I went ahead and took this lifetime offer at Mr. Skin. It does include naked news and Playboy Plus, but the PP subscription is streaming only with no downloads. When I tried to pay the $10 for downloads, the PP system says I am not a valid user and won't allow me to upgrade. Kinda sucks, but I'm used to it from the douche bags that run the Playboy site and many others that don't allow downloading unless you pay the extortion fee.
Nubiles.net no longer included in NP subscription.
Today, 1/1/18, I linked to nubilesporn.com from PU and see a good $15 a month rate, but when I look at the sites included, nubiles.net isn't listed. When I got to nubiles.net, the rate is a much steeper $24.00 a month but the list of sites included shows all of the network sites include NP. So apparently, they no longer include NN with the NP subscription. I opened a different browser and went straight to NP and the rate is $24 a month and still does not include NN. So it looks like if you want NN, which is the largest site in this network, you will need to join NN.
That is a really good point, especially since POV used to commonly be used to describe a look-down blow-job video (a lot of sites still call BJ videos POV).
I agree that for those who haven't seen it, the term POV or non-POV might be confusing, but with the advent of POV sites (like POVD.COM), the term is a little more universal than it used to be. In video games, they use the terms FPS and RTS all the time, but unless you are referring to a dick, "shooter" isn't really appropriate here. First person/third person might work, but it isn't used anywhere in VR that I know of. I originally used "participatory" and "observational" to describe the videos, which might make more sense. Iv'e also seen "Voyuer POV" and "Male POV" or "female POV", but again, without a frame of reference, these can still be confusing. In the end, the industry itself needs to decide what terms to use, but I'll try to be as descriptive as possible going forward.
POV and, of course, Virtual Reality didn't exist a few years ago. Those two things have transformed porn into a much more personal experiance for the viewer. The sheer volume of porn today means that there are also genres for every taste from traditional to literally whatever you are into.
On the other hand, I agree with Drooler about the extremity of sex today. (I admit I had to look up Gonzo and apparently not all dictionaries agree on what it is...). Some things, like anal sex, have become way too common on mainstream sites. I agree that the white background thing is annoying, but it seems to be passing. Tattoos? It is a generational (and partially socio-econimc) thing that, unfortunately, will always be more acceptable for younger generations than for older ones. But the tattoo industry has grown tremendously in the past two decades and probably won't go away any time soon.
...I digress. Quality, quantity and variety today are generally better than ever.
I don't understand why anyone would join a site that has no preview whatsoever. You go to this site and click the I'm an adult link and go directly to the sign-up page. None of the links on the main page are active, so you can't see the models page, any statistics, sample sets, anything. Not a single sample. That makes this site a huge nope for me. I'm amazed that a TBP review can even give this site a 69....
I have a routine that includes checking sites for updates and it seems that I do this pretty consistently. The weather (or season) probably has the biggest impact on surfing frequency. Nice weather means I'm off doing something else. Cold outside? More surfing.
You should take a look at FTVgirls. I don't think there is an exact match to ITC anywhere, but FTVgirls is a similar video style with a little more outdoor stuff and some really good looking unknown models providing some serious close ups. The girls at FTV are almost all American (I think they shoot in Tucson or Phoenix, maybe). ALS is OK. ALSscan is mostly thinner girls and ALSAngels is generally bigger breasted, more popular models/stars, etc. Read my reviews to get an idea or just look at the previews. ALSscan is a Met-Art network site now while ALSAngels is not. Both are run by the same webmaster and both recycle a lot of material.
My reference to 10GB was in regards to the size of most 20-30 minute 3D video files from the most popular 3D sites. You can go look at my reviews for pretty much all of them.
BTW, I did go ahead and purchase the unlimited plan for $70 so I could download the files I want without being treated like a thief and then cancelled it. I think there is a fundamental problem with offering access to a site and then restricting how much a subscriber can actually download from it. Your use of the term "abusers" in your response is particularly insightful, reflecting your attitude toward "subscribers" very clearly. As I mentioned, I offered to pay $100-150 for an annual subscription, but you aren't interested in that, so I'll be back in a year or two and will again buy an unlimited subscription so I can catch up.
And there is one final point I wish to make here. When I subscribe to a site, I want to be able to watch the videos whenever and wherever I am without having to wait for anything to download or having a stream stutter or having it switch to a lower resolution because of traffic. Actually possessing the file means I can play it instantly, fast forward, skip huge sections or replay the section I like over and over, all on the player of my choice and regardless of where I am or whether or not I have an internet connection. So when I sign up for a site, the first thing I do is download a handful of videos so I have them and can watch them any time once they've downloaded. Except for your site. On your site, I downloaded part of a handful of videos before I hit my quota. The downloads stop so I don't get the files, but the portion download still applies to my quota. So on your site I was unable to apply the same download-and-watch methodology that I have applied to dozens of other sites. Why? Because downloading 5 videos is abusing the system? You really need to rethink this logic.
I just looked at my image collection over three years from ITC and it totals 41,770 images, which is probably about 70% of the sets available. Image sizes range from about 1000 x 1600 pixels for the older sets, to 1800x2400 or 3000 x 4500 for the most recent sets. I have videos and images in the same folders, so my computer is having a hard time figuring out how large that is, but it looks like it is about 36GB. So the 300GB level should allow you to download all of the images you want....just not within the first hour. :-)
Ah. OK. Natasha Schon is kind of a mixed bag for me, I've commented on MA many times and these shots of Elin/Aya are a good example. All 3 of the Schon MA sets are fairly dark, stylized and possibly highly altered images that attempt to shroud the model in mood and mystery. We have no idea what else Schon is altering in the name of artistic expression. I can appreciate the effort but prefer a little less alteration. The Hegre shots are mostly exactly the opposite and mostly just show the model in her true and unaltered form. Now, I also notice that Hegre has 35 galleries of this model dating back to 2013 (First set is called 18th Birthday so that says a lot....), so this model is younger and less experienced in the Hegre sets. The Schon sets are all dated 2017, so at this point the model has been working for 4 or 5 years. One huge change? The model's teeth. They are decidedly "European" in all if the Hegre sets including the ones published in 2017. (We have no idea when they were shot and every set could have been from the same 2-3 day shoot many years ago.) In the Schon shots, she's either gotten crowns or Schon has done a lot of editing. Either way, the difference is significant.
In the end, none of this matters. It is all in the eye of the beholder. I like this model's body on both sites. Please hold it against me. :-)
Archiving! The only VCR I still have is a VCR to DVD converter. Pretty soon, though, DVDs will probably be obsolete.
I just went to update the navigation maps on one of my cars, a 2012 BMW, and the update instructions call for 4 8GB thumb drives(32GB total, to hold all the business and point of interest stuff, I guess). All I had was 3 year old 4GB thumb drives, so I ran out to Office Depot. The guy there says "We don't sell them that small anymore. Smallest we have is 16GB." They were stupid cheap, too. That's advancing technology at its finest.
Well....OK, VP9 might not be proprietary, but it certainly is not common. I had to go through quite a bit to get my non-VR video players (VLC and Windows Media Player) to be able to play it and I still can't get my Simple VR player to play it in VR, which is why I'm reverting to the 265 format. For the Vive, Simple VR is a pretty awesome universal player and it is more stable and, I think anyway, a better player than Whirligig or virtual desktop. It is also the only decent JPG image viewer for Vive VR that I know of.
Now if Only I could figure out how to edit these damn VR videos using my Adobe Premier video editing software. (I have 6 TB of VR videos now...) I can pull them in and edit them, but I can't figure out what output settings to use so the edited files will play in VR. Any ideas? :-)
RA, You are not alone. I was in Information Technology for 20 years and am still an early adopter for many kinds of technology. It can be a real pain in the ass. VR is no exception. I had to build a dedicated computer that is essentially an expensive high-end gaming machine. And the HTC Vive platform is still embryonic. The problem is that there aren't any standards and no clear technology consortium has emerged yet. We are in the betamax vs. VHS mode for this stuff and Augmented Reality (projecting things through glasses so they appear in actual physical space) is the DVD coming down the pipe.
Here's a chuckle. I'm watching porn in VR, and Ultra-HD, but Comcast still gets to charge me extra for HD channels. SD over-the-air broadcasting ended 10 years ago, but somehow 75% of the channels I get at home on cable are still SD. If you watch ANY porn in Ultra HD, you are far ahead of the cable companies. (I just read that DirectTV will cease broadcasting in SD in 2019, so maybe Cable will wake up and do the same in order to compete.)
As usual, the porn is driving technology just like it drove VHS. :-)
Thank you SO MUCH for taking my comments in the correct and positive light. In the end, we are all pretty committed to making TBP and PU a great place for people to find out what is good and what is bad. If PU isn't the CU of porn, I think it is at least safe to say you are the tomato meter. :-)
Thanks for the quick response. I know you guys have a LOT of site reviews to manage, but there really needs to be a better way to deal with this type of situation where a site changes its domain name, especially when the old domain name is still active. By not attaching an old domain to a new one, you are inadvertently aiding and abetting those really awful sites that change their name to evade bad reviews and deceive people into signing up for something again. At the same time, this process means that well established and highly rated sites that change their domain name for other reasons are treated like new sites with unknown reputations. Seems like the bad guys win here.
Hegre-Art.com actively links to this new hegre.com domain and the format and content hasn't changed at all. As a member for many years, I didn't even notice that the name had changed because all of my bookmarks still work. In TBP and PU The search for Hegre-Art returns a not-found or a message that says the site is no longer active. Totally not true. Even a search reference as simple as "This site is now X" would be helpful.
On the other hand, I have signed up for a couple of sites that have had no review only to find that it is the exact same crummy site that I had signed up for before where only the domain name had changed. This isn't common, but it does happen, especially among small niche sites.
So, unfortunately, the limitations of the TBP/PU system not being able to cross-reference site names are doing a disservice to your viewers. From my perspective, you are inadvertently helping these bad sites deceive people while hurting the really good, well established ones that change their name for other reasons. As the Consumer Reports of porn, I know you can come up with a better way.
I went ahead and created an updated review so that at least there is a PU score associated with the new domain name.
Hegre.com, formerly Hegre-art.com is an excellent minimalist softcore site that has been around since 2002, publishing at least 1 new set every day since then. I previously wrote at least 1 review for it. Unfortunately, somebody at TBP completely wiped out the reviews for the old site name (even though the URL still works) so this site has no reviews. What's up with that?
I think an answer that is missing is "I just go where the surfing takes me" I sometimes start on Reddit and just browse around until I find something interesting with a watermark on it, then I go to the watermark site to see what it's about. I have found some really interesting sites that way.
There are several videos on my favorites list where the girl un-mounts the guy and cum drops out of her. To me, this is the ultimate straight male "mission accomplished" ending.
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