Sex WITH real excitement, at least once in a while
I was asked to express my "expert opinion" on the disagreement between FuckingGambler and BabyGetReal about excitement in FuckingGamble games, and wasn't able to resist the temptation to pose as an "expert" :-), so here go my two cents.
I've took a closer look at game 4 which FuckingGambler is referring to, and IMHO it has much more passion and much more excitement from sex between the models then 99% of all the porn out there. To compare it to DareRing (which BabyGetReal refers to) I've even took a look at my old clips from Dare Ring (hey, now I know why I store all that old stuff :-)) to compare, and found that despite obviously more "amateur" feeling of "Dare Ring", I've felt that FuckingGamble's game 4 players shown significantly more "excitement" about sex then DareRing players (DareRing guys and girls were way too nervous, especially towards the end of the game, which obviously didn't help their excitement). And what is quite obvious to me now is that action is indeed NOT scripted on both DareRing and FuckingGamble (at least because writing and learning all those lines would be an absolute nightmare).
That said, I should add that not all the games on FuckingGamble are made equal. Some (like game 4, game 14, or the most recent game 26) are IMHO very emotional and show real "chemistry" (as FuckingGambler puts it) between the players, but some are less successful in this regard. In addition, I should add that all the above is just my personal opinion, so if your opinion differs, please don't hit me too hard :-).
On site, when subscribing, they just say "90 days membership eur 89.95. Auto renewed every 90 days", and there is no mention of 69.95 price when renewing (which PU/TBP tells about). Would be nice to make it consistent one way or another.
IMHO the way price in EUR is shown on PU/TBP sites ("$34.95 (Euros recurring)") is a bit misleading: "$" implies dollars, and with current rate difference between EUR and USD it's quite a big difference; is it possible to change the display to make it less confusing (for example, to show it as "EUR34.95 (recurring)")?
Disclaimer: it's just my VERY humble opinion, FWIW.
If you didn't join some site but your credit card got charged - DON'T HESITATE TO CALL YOUR BANK AND INITIATE DISPUTE ABOUT THE CHARGE. As I was told in a similar situation by a banking manager, most likely not only you will get your money back, but also if number of disputes exceeds certain threshold, merchants will get HUGE fines (so they will start losing money on their own fraud), or even can get their license revoked. Therefore, DISPUTING FRAUDULENT CHARGES HELPS NOT ONLY YOURSELF, BUT COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
$8/episode? What kind of price is it? Also you can get ONLY very old episodes, with new episodes still available ONLY for subscribing guys :-(.
Kink.com sites are well-known for their high prices (and high quality), but this is outrageous even for them. I don't see how anybody would want to go for this on-demand stuff (even assuming that it's DRM-free, which is most likely true).
It seems to me that 'Female Domination' niche is quite inappropriate for this kind of content; it is generic/various fetish site but there is almost no domination there.
This comment has been inspired by poll of May 15, 2008 on https://www.pornusers.com/browse_polls.html . For this purpose, I've took 10 completely random sites to see if there are chances they're "unethical".
Results of review of non-member area: girls are ugly, but suck lollipops as advertised. Comment is advertised as exclusive, and looks so (confirmed by TGP review). Updates are advertised as one per week, and it was confirmed by TGP back then, but without dated updates it doesn't look that they're still updating the site.
Bottom line: if you're REALLY into this fetish, you might want to risk it despite girls being outright ugly and probable lack of updates. Chances of site being "unethical": IMHO, quite high because of updates.
From http://www.nolimitweb.nl/terms.htm :
"The occurrence of complaints from Customers, inquiries, Credit Backs or Charge Backs with respect to the Client's program or service may be cause for termination of this Agreement if such events occur with unacceptable frequency as determined in the sole discretion of the Company. In addition, The Company reserves the right to charge the Client reasonable fees and recover its expenses on account of Credit Backs, Charge Backs, or excessive customer inquiries." - have anybody seen anything like this? These guys seem to reserve the right to charge members as much as they wish, at their sole discretion.
This comment has been inspired by poll of May 15, 2008 on https://www.pornusers.com/browse_polls.html . For this purpose, I've took 10 completely random sites to see if there are chances they're "unethical".
Ok, here goes the price of reviewing RANDOM sites :-(. But to maintain experiment as clean as possible I shouldn't avoid even as filthy stuff as this is (sorry guys who love it, it's not my cup of... oh, forget it).
Review of non-member area of the site is easy: there is only one page, so there isn't that much to see, but there is a movie on this page, so it isn't that uninformative after all. There are very few promises on this page, so there aren't much things to break (except for content being filthy enough, which is somewhat confirmed by sample WMV), but there is one interesting thing there in their "Terms and Conditions" (http://www.nolimitweb.nl/terms.htm , see my other comment to this site for a quote). I have no idea if some provisions was EVER used by them, or if similar conditions are present for any of the other sites, but this is IMHO nothing short of outrageous (they seem to reserve the right to charge members at the site discretion).
Bottom line: not only content is filthy, Terms and Conditions are not less filthy and I would stay away from sites with such Terms and Conditions at any cost.
This comment has been inspired by poll of May 15, 2008 on https://www.pornusers.com/browse_polls.html . For this purpose, I've took 10 completely random sites to see if there are chances they're "unethical".
Results of review of non-member area: looks somewhat more "fishy" than, for example, previously reviewed Nina Wonder. This girl claims she's from St. Louis, Missouri (and I have some doubts about it), says about live-cam girls (which might be true), says there are hundreds of "friends" sites within (and while it implies that they're included into membership, I'm not so sure about it being true; not even clear if membership includes access to 16 sites of Roller Girl 2000 mentioned by TGP).
Bottom line: IMHO quite high risk of it being pretty much a scam, with only a few hundred of pics and nothing else for this price.
On their sign-up page, they say: "If you are a member signed up for a month and you are not completely satisfied with our content and service we will refund a cost of your membership upon a completed customer survey during your 1st month's membership".
Not to say anything about quality of content :-), but this guarantee is definitely a good thing (well, if they do honour it) and I would like more sites to follow it; unfortunately it seems that more sites these days are like TheEnglishMansion, which won't refund even after downloading single gallery - see my exchange with their webmaster.
This comment has been inspired by poll of May 15, 2008 on https://www.pornusers.com/browse_polls.html . For this purpose, I've took 10 completely random sites to see if there are chances they're "unethical".
Results of review of non-member area: looks as more or less typical individual model site, with not that much content, but providing access to a few dozens of other similar sites.
Bottom line: if you're REALLY into amateur girls, could even be interesting (though more research of affiliated sites will be needed). About being unethical - this site doesn't promise much, and most likely keeps its promises.
Of all the sites I've subscribed and unsubscribed recently, most offered a discount when I tried to unsubscribe (not that it helped them :-)); this one quite surprisingly did not.
As I've said in my review, videos on the site are NOT full versions (with FULL versions sold separately at xxvideo.com); so if looking for videos, you'd better look elsewhere.
Current price structure:
$24.95 for 10 days (trial) then $9.95 recurring every 30 days (you can unsubscribe anytime)
$29.95 for 60 days (non-recurring)
$34.95 for 365 days (non-recurring)
This comment has been inspired by poll of May 15, 2008 on https://www.pornusers.com/browse_polls.html . For this purpose, I've took 10 completely random sites to see if there are chances they're "unethical".
Results of reviewing non-member area: according to TBP it is a clone of a well-established site, and looks pretty much like expected for such a site. It has everything needed for this kind of site: ability to search clips, purchases of time from $3.95 to $84.95, streaming/rental/download/XXX-to-Burn and so on.
Bottom line: while I'm not being fan of streaming and DRM, if you're ok with it, can be not too bad (especially considering "XXX to Burn" feature). Chances of being unethical are estimated as "very low".
Login system has been revamped for all kink.com sites including SexAndSubmission. It was one of the worst in the industry, now it's one of the best (with ability to see all the sites you're subscribed with them together and almost never-expiring sessions). As it was one of the very few complaints about SexAndSubmission, this change has made it significantly better.
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