I REALLY want to join this site, since Aria is as close to perfect for me as anyone else I can think of off-hand (except Salma Hayek, but she doesn't pose naked, alas...), but I'm afraid I'll regret it. I can't see taking the trouble with small pics anymore. What size are we talking about here? Also, I read a recent interview where she says she works harder on her site than on anything else, so I hope she's upped the quality on her vids since BP's site facts' last revision. 500-600k is pretty shabby.
But I know myself too well and I'll plonk down the cabbage on Aria before I get an answer to this. When I get rich and famous I'm gonna marry Aria and make Salma jealous.
Thanks for the reply. When we do a review we sort of harp on the negatives, that's part and parcel of the whole thing; but when all is said and done, if the people behind this site were to take all the material they have and present it in a more accessible fashion, say, the way ATK does, then they would have one of the best sites going. Higher-res pics would be a good move - a necessary move now that it's 08, in my opinion - as would a slight drop in price, though that might be a problem only for those of us in the states.
To be truthful, I prefer the European approach to presenting beautiful young women, and the hardcore material, vid-wise I mean, comes across as being far less mysogynistic, and just less sleezy in general, compared to American porn. If Club Seventeen could manage to offer at least some of their DVDs in full, via download, now that would easily justify the 46 US dollars.
I agree with your sentiments in regard to cumshots. I had a membership to a famous facials site a while back and was thoroughly bored as well as somewhat disgusted by the content. Judging by what I saw, these guys could barely get it up and almost always finished by hand (sometimes for an absurdly long time) and all they could manage was a pathetic dribble which they smeared on the girl's face. What a complete waste of time. They don't call cumshots "money-shots" for nothing. I think these guys do this stuff too often and the whole act is becoming meaningless to them.
I think there's something deeply rooted in the male libido which makes it exciting to us for the female to witness ejaculation. Something primordial, as if it's a kind of visual proof that we are viable males who can procreate. Thus, the more powerful the ejaculation, the more impressed the female will be. Not that it really does impress her, but I think it goes something like that on at least a subconscious level for males. Hence the popularity of the money-shot in adult film and video, and all the more reason to be irritated by male performers who have to jerk-off for ten minutes before finishing, and then produce nothing but a weak dribble.
You must have seen Peter North's "work". There are not too many people like him, however. In fact, I think he might be one of a kind. Lucky bastard.
Bear in mind that one PU reviewer recently mentioned that the trial at Eighteen18 is now very limited: no vids and only five pics per set. Eighteen18 is part of the Score group, so who knows, perhaps this new limited trial access is all across the board. I say new because I had trials at both Eighteen18 and Scoreland which granted virtually full-access. In fact, there were no limitations at all at Eighteen18 when I went for the trial there. At Scoreland, the trial was limited only that some of the magazine archives allowed you to download the first page of pics only. As far as I could tell, you had access to all the main Scoreland pics and videos.
This must be something new. I had a trial here not more than three months ago and pretty much everything was available. I had the trial at Scoreland only about a week or so ago, and it's the same outfit that does 18Eighteen. The trial there was only limited in that some of the magazine archives only let you get the first page of pics.
It is definitely a raw deal to take five bucks for five pics per set and no vid access. In fact, that's no trial as far as I'm concerned, it's bullshit. Teen Dreams and other sites give you practically the same thing on the guest tour, as you say.
Sorry for that, and it's good that you're giving a heads-up for everyone else. If this is the real-deal here and not just something gone awry, I'll have to edit my review of this site accordingly.
Thanks for the reply, but I think maybe my review is giving the wrong impression.
While the site is no doubt softcore, it's most definitely not non-nude. There is plenty of nudity; in fact, there's even a section for nude galleries and videos, though that isn't the only place nudity happens. The action between the girls is often very erotic and it seems very genuine most of the time.
About the DRM protected vids: I believe there is only one small section containing these. I would estimate at least 85-90 percent of the video here is not DRM protected. I do agree with you, though, and I avoid DRM sites as well.
I had to laugh at this, jd. It's 2008 now, and some of these sites will just have to come clean about how old their models are. At some major sites you can see models' ages at anywhere between 19 and 23 who've had pics all over the net since the late nineties.
Tawny Stone should be in the World Record's book for staying 18 longer than any other human in history. A biological miracle!
Zappa was amazing, though his symphonic stuff was way over my head. His kids are pretty talented as well. Dweezil and Ahmet (sp?) have a great band. Can't remember the name at the moment, but I saw some good vids on YouTube. "My Meat Mailbox" is a great song.
True, what you said. But believe it or not, it's mostly the older sets that I found more to my liking. Tons of pics from Markham's site were all over newsgroups back in the day (I don't know if they originated at Markham's or not), so maybe it's some kind of misty nostalgic thing I'm responding to.
Thanks for the reply, Drooler. I suppose I should be happy that I've saved 46 USD. It's just that I've been tempted by this site for so long I finally figured I'd give it a whirl.
It's actually nice to know there's someone besides me who's a bit tired of the toy thing.
My trial at Markham is up and I must say that 3 bucks for 3 days is a steal here, regardless of the toy-obssession. I was able to exploit the search function and find many sets which were right up my alley. To be honest, I think the only real downside to the site is its over-emphasis on toys. I may go for a full month at some point, but not soon.
Japanese women, AV models in particular, are simply some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. I also don't care for what you describe as the "truly submissive" style in Japanese hardcore. I haven't seen that much of it, but I've surfed Japanese TGPs and have seen so many vidcaps from videos where it looks like the girl is being molested, often by serveral guys, poked and prodded and groped and treated like a lab rat. The girls don't seem to be enjoying themselves. I could never get off watching stuff like that. Of course it's not just the Japanese. Max(nolink) Hardcore is a sick fuck if I ever saw one.
On the other hand the Japanese do some stuff better than anyone. Their softcore/panty/teaser photography is amazing. One of the things I like hardcore-wise (and I don't like much hardcore) is the reverse gang-bang: one lucky dope and several women. The Japanese go all-out with that. I saw a few vids featuring one guy with more than ten women. Not one at a time: they all hover over him like happy vultures and laugh as they administer their playful "torture". And I imagine they PAY the guy for it.
Vids first, since that is most people's main interest:
I've only been a member for two days, but so far I've downloaded about a dozen or so vids. Two are long, good-quality (640x480,2000 kbps) handjob scenes where the only panty content is about thirty seconds in the beginning. Both clips are over eleven minutes long; two of the vids are lower quality (320x240,705 kbps) masturbation clips where the panties stay on, both about ten minutes long; then there's a very good quality (768x576, 2009 kbps) masturbation vid with toy which runs three minutes; there are also a few mild spanking vids here of fairly low to middling quality. There's a couple teaser vids and a stripping/interview vid. This is definitely a softcore site and NOT a non-nude site. It seems to me that it's a grab-bag of various types of content with panties figuring somewhere in the mix. Some of the material looks familiar, like the handjob vids, but I can't place them. There are lots of vids here and by the looks of the thumb-links there is more than likely more masturbation. As for the pics, same thing: a lot of the sets are similar to the ATK/Teen-Flood type of softcore: full nudity, occasional masturbation/toy stuff. The material is not exclusive, as I am sure I've seen quite a few sets at other sites. Again, the quality is hit and miss. Most of it is negligible.
Hello, and thanks for your courteous reply. I assume that when people talk about navigation at a website they're talking about going from one page or area to another and back, moving through and consuming the content in an expiditious manner, not simply being able to find the content. Being able to access the content at APP was not the problem. The problem consisted in how the three main pages were oriented. These pages contained thumbnail links listed vertically down the page, and there were no dates or set numbers anywhere, although a few of the links at the top said "new". I found myself scrolling an awful lot to get to the bottom of the two primary pages. As I said in my review, I think these pages are too long. Given the nature of the photo-sets, offering zip-files is an excellent idea, since opening and closing a new window to view each picture in sets where dozens of consecutive thumbs look almost identical is a test for anyone's patience, and I can't imagine what it would be like without a fast connection and a top-end processor. I love Asian models and I love the panty niche, so I found a great deal to enjoy at APP, but my experience would have been much better if there had been some kind of organization and user-friendliness to the site: navigational buttons (back, next, home, what have you), a search option, models' list, numbered sets, categories: browse features of some kind. You have some top-notch material and I guarantee I would join again at some time in the future if there were some changes in that area.
Wow, I get 3000 characters for this! Whoo-hoo! I'll try not to use them all up, but I get gabby when it comes to this stuff.
I'm heavily into the non-nude thing, I have to admit, though I've only joined one site - True Tere, hers was non-nude if I remember correctly? - in that niche. I take it lingerie sites are not in the same category? Most of them contain nudity but a few don't.
I checked out the current list here and clicked on a site called NN Latin Teen and what's the first thing I see? Nudity. I guess I just don't understand marketing. If a guy clicks on a site with NN in the title, why show nude pics (albeit small ones) on the welome page? If he wants to see nudity there are thousands of sites he can go to. If he wants non-nude then he wants non-nude. Maybe I don't have the same definition of nudity? To my mind, a naked tush is a nude tush, and hence a pic of a nude tush is not in the non-nude category?
Then again, I was at a site once that features nude and non-nude celebs and the pics were separated into those two categories. To my surprise, bare-butt shots were in the non-nude category. The webmaster told me that law-wise, bare-butts are not considered nudity. Since I like the "A" even more than the "T", naturally it seems crazy to me. But I'm not complaining. I'm just perplexed.
I think if you're gonna call your site non-nude, then let it be non-nude. I never got to see True Tere's naked tush (at least not that I remember...I'm getting older...) and that was part of the deal, part of the fun. That isn't to say I wouldn't look at it if I had the chance. I mean, I like the tease, but I'm not crazy.
Anyway, this is a great addition to PU and I hope to check out some of these NN sites.
I wanted to reply mainly to say I agree about the Latina and Black models being very good. In particular, the Black models. I have only four days left before my current sub runs out and I only just started in the black girls' section. Oh what an idiot I've been!
Some of these women are truly spectacular. I fell in love with a model named Muffin only last night. Be sure to look at Krystal (hope I spelled it right) as well. Aiy aiy aiy, I need a date!
Thanks for the response. As I mentioned, I loved the site when I was a member, and I see it's only gotten better in the few years since. I will probably be subscribing again very shortly!
Yes, Lenka is on ATK Exotics but there are only two pic sets, amounting to 147 pics. No vids at the moment. This is strange because I remember this model (and yes, she is amazing) from previous subscriptions to ATK, and I could have sworn that there were many more sets. The only ATK site I haven't joined is Premium. Could be they moved the majority of her sets there? I don't know.
It surprises me that, considering your username here, you haven't joined the ATK exotics site! I love exotics and I'm on my fourth go around.
I have to agree with you about the attractiveness of the models, though I would say I found less than 35% attractive. I don't know what it is exactly. I think there's a kind of tomboy-ish look to many of them that turns me off. Not to be disrespectful. They're all prettier than me!
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