You are on the right track about Aria. One of the areas of her site has candid pictures of her and her friends and believe it or not, her family, non-nude. Some playing with her pets too. Everything I know about her, she is a very normal woman. I was telling Snowdude one day on here that I graduated from the same high school as Aria, she is just 4 years younger than I am, so I never really knew of her back then, but I do believe that she is shy, quiet, reserved. Her content on DDF's sites also are tease, which is very ususual for DDF, he usually wants at least masturbation.
As far as hardcore and Aria, the most hardcore I have ever seen of her was on bubblegirls, where she fists herself and sticks a suction dildo to a table, then rides it, very good, as you can tell she really orgasms, but bubblegirls now makes you buy the DVD if you join their site. Used to, you could download it with a month membership.
I figured I would catch Snow Dude eventually, I think he is taking break, and let me catch up! Oh, Aria is divorced now. If you didn't know, she has been married 3 times. The last time was to the guitar player in Marilyn Manson's band. They got divorced several months ago, it was in the newspapers out here. Talk to you later.
The picture quality varies, depending on age of the photo. Some go back as far as 2001. The biggest that I remember is 1200 on the high end. If you have seen her content on Twistys, the best on her site is about the same as Twistys.
My biggest problem was the no zip download on picture sets, that can be very frustrating.
The movies aren't much better than 600 kb/s bitrate, I think I have a few from her site at 1000 kb/s, but they are major tease videos. There are a few masturbation mixed in here and there.
I would never not recommend it, because it is Aria, and you will never find this much material of her on one site, but I only visit it once a year at the most.
Bubblegirls really messed up a good thing they have going on that site. They had the most real content I had seen of Eve and Aria. I had re-joined it a few months ago under the trial since I had the Eve and Aria content from before, I figured I would pick up the Sophie content and maybe a few others, but it was streaming only. I thought maybe it was because I just did the trial, which was $10 for full access for a week.
Aria is definitely one of the best and hottest models in the world. Kind of funny that I would have never found Eve Angel a few years ago if not for my crush on Aria. I had searched Aria on a TGP free site, one of the sets comes up that says, "Aria amateur" it was actually Eve. I take it that the site that had the Eve content was trying to push Eve by naming her Aria, knowing she was #1 back then and that most who like Aria would like Eve as well. Cheap advertising plan, but good, smart business nonetheless. As for any other Aria content, I do have 3 fairly hardcore g/g video scenes of Aria, I looked back at them, but they have no copyright on the screens. I've had most of the content I have of Aria from probably 2003.
One has her and a blonde by a pool. Aria seems to be content with just posing with the blonde. The blonde keeps kissing on Aria until she gives in, pretty poor quality though, 320 on the high end. You can tell it was early in her career before her agent decided to put the pale make-up on her. I think you would like the solo site. The best part is the candid pictures. Aria really is just a normal girl, her name is Cindy if you didn't know. Her divorce from the guy in Marilyn Manson made the front page of LA Times out here since she is from the area. So far since then, she seems to be doing a little more showing and a little less teasing.
Most everything, 99% is very softcore, tease, it is nude, if you have seen her SexyBabes videos or the ones on Mac and Bumble, I would call them "almost masturbation". The Bubble Girls videos are not on this site. I got them back last year when Bubble Girls was allowing downloads. Did you join Bubble Girls under a trial or as a full member? I've seen varying stories about their trial only allows streams, but their webmaster won't answer that question if you send a mail.
I know of one place where you can get a few of the Bubble Girls clips of her for cheap, but it is only maybe 4 or 5 minutes total, celebritymoviearchive has 3 of the clips from bubblegirls, but again, these are just maybe 1 minute each. Of course there are other ways, but it goes into file sharing sites. I didn't know they now have DVDs on Bubblegirls. That price is too high though. Her personal site has a lot of non-exclusive content that other sites have, and my personal favorite part her "candid" photos of her in just her daily life.
Sounds you like found those famous "bubble girls" Aria clips. I heard they are on celebrity movie archive. The full clip from bubble girls has Aria shaving herself first, then fisting, then the dildo stuck to a table, then probably the most hardcore solo I have seen of her with a dildo while sitting on a big chair, she really gets into this one. Then it has a little more tame masturbation in the bath and a peeing segment.
I've seen I think 3 of her with other women in what I would call, "full sex" with each other, not just kissing and posing together. Outside of those, I am almost positive she hasn't done more. I agree about the definition of hardcore, it is too hard to keep up with. I've heard a lot of newer porn fans say that hardcore requires a cumshot. I considered Aria's bubble girls video to be hardcore, she obviously orgasms in two of them.
On a couple of side notes, I went to the same high school that she did in California, but I had graduated 2 years before she started high school. The people that I know that knew her in high school say the same thing her site says about her, "Very intelligent, sweet, shy" what gets me is of all the damn models on the internet she would have to be the shy and sweet one!
On a more interesting side note, she has officially divorced her husband the guitar player in Marilyn Manson. If I'm not mistaken that was her 2nd marriage. Maybe this could mean more hardcorish videos and pictures?
Jimmy, I'm not looking to argue or to continue any problems. I am curious why you never answered my question about the 400 miles award for submitting an "article". I even asked in my review "I'm wondering if I get those points for my review?" There is a concern you are influencing the reviews your members leave here and anywhere on the internet BUT
I was in Cebu City for 2 weeks in December. If you all are looking for legitimate articles about other people's experience in Asia, I would assume especially non-Asians. I was going to submit 20 entries from my own blog to you. That's 1/2 the reason I asked if the reward is for reviews. I knew my review wasn't going to be accepted. My girlfriend is from Cebu City. I met her family for 2 weeks including her 26 female cousins. I was shocked by their sensuality and how (As John talks about) much they "like" men. I thought the content (my entries) might be something you all would be interested in. Especially if I received 400 points for each one. Whether you despise me or not, I think you can at least tell I am an above average writer. I'm going to Bangkok over summer to meet the other side of my girlfriend's family. See why I showed a leaning towards the Filipina and Thai models on Trike and Tuk-Tuk?
What gets lost in a review like mine is something I have said only maybe once or twice in 12 years as a reviewer. I wouldn't care if you have downloads if I didn't like the content. I think you came in ready to defend and brawl and didn't look at the big picture.
And remember, I asked that question in my review before any of this happened between us. By the time, I got back to Porn Users, after posting my review everything had already blown up again. Twelve or so replies before I read any of them. You can see that by the times on the comments. I tried in my previous reply to show a more friendly side by saying maybe I or we could help. I used the word "humility" strongly. It's far from an insult.
I will say your reply on my comment, where I replied with "those insults might hurt you but don't me" or something like that, contained you saying I was being "persecuted" by a webmaster and I think that's how you felt here.
People get defensive and unreasonable in that situation. We are all people and we all have had those moments. It isn't a situation where there is no chance for a bigger picture to exist.
I also posted the comment about your message on your website because it was as much protecting all of us as anything. I knew it broke multiple rules here.
Last, I'm very serious about the entries, it's very interesting stuff. My girlfriend also writes entries about her experience in America. She has only been here for 3.5 years. No need for any of us to push the panic button when a reasonable conversation could have made this all avoidable.
Jimmy, I'm not looking to argue or to continue any problems. You had your moment in the spotlight two too many times here. I am curious why you never answered my question about the 400 miles award for submitting an "article". I even asked in my review "I'm wondering if I get those points for my review?" There is a concern you are influencing the reviews your members leave here and anywhere on the internet BUT
I was in Cebu City for 2 weeks in December. If you all are looking for legitimate articles about other people's experience in Asia, I would assume especially non-Asians. I was going to submit 20 entries from my own blog to you. That's 1/2 the reason I asked if the reward is for reviews. I knew my review wasn't going to be accepted. My girlfriend is from Cebu City. I met her family for 2 weeks including her 26 female cousins. I was shocked by their sensuality and how (As John talks about) much they "like" men. I thought the content (my entries) might be something you all would be interested in. Especially if I received 400 points for each one. Whether you despise me or not, I think you can at least tell I am an above average writer. I'm going to Bangkok over summer to meet the other side of my girlfriend's family. See why I showed a leaning towards the Filipina and Thai models on Trike and Tuk-Tuk?
What gets lost in a review like mine is something I have said only maybe once or twice in 12 years as a reviewer. I wouldn't care if you have downloads if I didn't like the content. I think you came in ready to defend and brawl and chose not to look at the big picture.
And remember, I asked that question in my review before any of this happened between us. By the time, I got back to Porn Users, after posting my review everything had already blown up again. You can see that by the times on the comments. I tried in my previous reply to show a more friendly side by saying maybe I or we could help. I used the word "humility" strongly. It's far from an insult.
I will say your reply on my comment, where I replied with "those insults might hurt you but don't me" or something like that, contained you saying I was being "persecuted" by a webmaster and I think that's how you felt here.
People get defensive and unreasonable in that situation. We are all people and we all have had those moments. It isn't a situation where there is no chance for a bigger picture to exist.
Last, I'm very serious about the entries, it's very interesting stuff. My girlfriend also writes entries about her experience in America. She has only been here for 3.5 years. No need for any of us to push the panic button when a reasonable conversation could have made this all avoidable.
It was you that once led me to Trike Patrol, several years ago, I think. I wish Jimmy would tone down the dramatics and work with us instead of trying to get an attitude with everyone and trying to start some kind of rebellion on his site against us.
It's kind of sad that he believes the average porn consumer is going to side with him after they see how he talks to everyone here. I had said before I posted the review I was going to give it a 65 but while reviewing it, I noticed the Flight Club and still think it looks very questionable. You know the worst part? As of right now, two of his members have sent emails saying they like him but agree about his business decisions being bad. It's like he didn't consider the negative consequences of asking his members to come here.
Thanks for the compliments and support, Shen. This is roughly round 712 with a webmaster. Maybe Jimmy will realize none of us are really against him. We have kind of "adopted" a few webmasters in the past and helped them out.
You're right about your navigation. It is terrible. If I could ever be of any use to you for advice (I won't charge), I would be willing to help you out with figuring out how to reprogram it, make it more user-friendly, post on here or on the Porn Users forum and ask. Believe it or not Jimmy, we do not get any joy from "bashing" a site. Humility is the key. Porn Users could be your best friends. I will give you that about conquests number but if you look back at my comment, I based my number just on your estimation of 2.5 hardcore scenes per week. You know why? I didn't know which were just the sex scenes and which weren't. What then comes up is how many of those are just part 1, part 2, part 3 and so on? I know one of the newer conquests has 5 parts in it. Does that count as 5 or 1?
On the ads, I can't use ADblock or something like no script. I have work chats, some are flash, some are java. I already use 3 browsers so I'm not disabling one of them just to be able to visit a porn site. The main ones I have a problem with are the moving ones. I'm not worried about clicking on them. I will say I almost missed the flight club because I saw the box for it and saw it was blue in color in the upper taskbar. I thought it required a different membership but I did go into it. I can see your point with it but why make users have to earn the right to download a scene? Imagine the way you would be looked at if you said, "You know what, members? You can download all 70 of those right now for no miles." I've been around porn since 2003. I'm not saying that to show my knowledge over yours. I'm saying I've seen many webmasters just like you, that are now working for Mind Geek.
I like that you all have exclusive content. I would rather join a site like yours than a mainstream, cookie-cutter site but you have to be willing to work with what some of your consumers want or you alienate them. I gave your site +35 for the models and believable sex. That's as big of an addition as nearly two of the biggest deductions combined.
Last, you mentioned to I believe Shen or Jook that you all are protecting the models. Why doesn't Trike Patrol? Porn is illegal in the Philippines. I just don't believe your explanation on that. Porn is frowned upon in nearly every country in the world.
To show you what happens when you bring negative attention to someone else, one of your members has already contacted me. Not defending you but telling me, "Jimmy is being a douchebag. Ask him how many of the Conquests are from Date Slam!" I didn't know what Date Slam was but I see it is another of your sites. You sharing "exclusive" content between your sites? Don't turn yourself into Julius Caesar, Jimmy. There's a Brutus around every corner.
Advice to survive in the porn world, when you fall in a hole, jump out. Don't stand there and dig yourself deeper into it.
You're right about your navigation. It is terrible. If I could ever be of any use to you for advice (I won't charge), I would be willing to help you out with figuring out how to reprogram it, make it more user-friendly, post on here or on the Porn Users forum and ask. Believe it or not Jimmy, we do not get any joy from "bashing" a site. Humility is the key. Porn Users could be your best friends. I will give you that about conquests number but if you look back at my comment, I based my number just on your estimation of 2.5 hardcore scenes per week. You know why? I didn't know which were just the sex scenes and which weren't. What then comes up is how many of those are just part 1, part 2, part 3 and so on? I know one of the newer conquests has 5 parts in it. Does that count as 5 or 1?
On the ads, I can't use ADblock or something like no script. I have work chats, some are flash, some are java. I already use 3 browsers so I'm not disabling one of them just to be able to visit a porn site. The main ones I have a problem with are the moving ones. I'm not worried about clicking on them. I will say I almost missed the flight club because I saw the box for it and saw it was blue in color in the upper taskbar. I thought it required a different membership but I did go into it. I can see your point with it but why make users have to earn the right to download a scene? Imagine the way you would be looked at if you said, "You know what, members? You can download all 70 of those right now for no miles." I've been around porn since 2003. I'm not saying that to show my knowledge over yours. I'm saying I've seen many webmasters just like you, that are now working for Mind Geek.
I like that you all have exclusive content. I would rather join a site like yours than a mainstream, cookie-cutter site but you have to be willing to work with what some of your consumers want or you alienate them. I gave your site +35 for the models and believable sex. That's as big of an addition as nearly two of the biggest deductions combined.
Last, you mentioned to I believe Shen or Jook that you all are protecting the models. Why doesn't Trike Patrol? Porn is illegal in the Philippines. I just don't believe your explanation on that. Porn is frowned upon in nearly every country in the world.
To show you what happens when you bring negative attention to someone else, one of your members has already contacted me. Not defending you but telling me, "Jimmy is being a douchebag. Ask him how many of the Conquests are from Date Slam!" I didn't know what Date Slam was but I see it is another of your sites. You sharing "exclusive" content between your sites? Don't turn yourself into Julius Caesar, Jimmy. There's a Brutus around every corner.
Advice to survive in the porn world, when you fall in a hole, jump out. Don't stand there and dig yourself deeper into it.
This might take two replies. If there's one thing I have a problem with everyday, even in real life, it is people that try to impose their self-worth and intellect on others. When I corrected your spelling of laughingstock it wasn't to be grammar nazi. It was to show you brought pettiness into our productive conversation with the insult of "laughing stock". I, in turn, corrected it with pettiness. Logical flow is the single-biggest reason our society fails at conversations. You nearly broke the logical flow with an insult. If you had not said "laughing stock", I couldn't have corrected it. Go ahead and say I did something wrong there. It's like blaming someone for stabbing you after you shot them.
I do appreciate your attempted civility in the explanation of industry/non-industry. You will be able to explain why I scored Girls Out West, one of the least industry sites, one with 100% amateur models, a 97 just two months ago, right? I said "attempted civility" because of this "you are pre-conditioned". Hi Jimmy, meet me, a PhD in Psychology and Philosophy. Pre-conditioned is what you do to leather or a cast iron skillet. The word you're looking for is predisposed. See how nice I am to you? You will be able to look like you really are talking over people's heads now. Back to talking eye to eye on a human level. I graded your site in comparison to Girls Out West not in comparison to Reality Kings of Brazzers. Girls Out West has over 4,000 videos, over 2,000 photo sets. They are all downloadable. The videos are 720p to 1080p and the photos are up to 6000 long end. They update everyday with a full video and their price is $29.95. The advantage your site has is I much prefer your models. I would love to love your site. That's what you are not willing to understand. My biggest problem with your site is in your business philosophy (no downloads, high price, low quality photos, annoying ads). Those are things you can fix. Those are things your members at ASD might very well turn on you over once it's pointed out to them like you did by inviting them here.
Another attempt at pettiness with "The 90s called big pictures and video downloads". Jimmy, in the 90s, most of us were on dial-up, we weren't downloading big pictures and definitely not videos. I remember having DSL in 2003, I believe. Cable in 2005. You're using a diversionary tactic to avoid the reality of 90% of all porn sites, industry/non-industry, allow downloads and aim for the highest quality pictures and videos. It's your choice to give your consumers what you want. It's their choice to criticize you for it and not come back. I would rather your site excels and blows Mind Geek out of the water than to see it fail but you won't believe that because you only seem to listen to you.
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I just want to add a few facts. Facts cannot be argued.
The trophies/model list is 7 models wide by 12 tall. That is 84 models per page, 7 full pages = 588. There are 12 on page 8. So 600.
I compared Trike to ASD based on value. Your numbers above, which I appreciate, says 2.5 hardcore scenes per week so 130 per year, 6 years x 130 is 780. Your numbers also say Trike has 500 plus. I can download 0 from ASD for $40. I can download 500 plus from Trike for $30. We have to stay on the same page to make this work.
I won't defend myself for removing points for non-Asian pornstars being on an amateur Asian site. That sounds like an "industry", "non-industry" dilemma.
And could you explain what you consider industry and non-industry? I have no motives with the one question in this. I am just curious.
Go easy on the insults, Jimmy. Laughingstock is one word.
I almost held off on posting it but I doubt I will go back to the site. I kept running out of characters or I would have explained the Flight Club offer better. I kept having to remove a sentence here and there.
Here is the offer:
"Written Info Article: +400 miles for a well-written article on any particular subject related to hot Asians and porn lifestyle. (min: 4 paragraphs)"
I also noticed two "reviews" by Chevy14 on Freeones which explains why he said he was updating his review here. It's copy and pasted on Freeones. His first review is on Rabbit's Reviews in the comments too. He must have got confused and pasted the 2nd one here.
The newest review very much goes into the porn lifestyle, he talks about John setting out to creampie as many local Asians, more creampies for European Porn Stars and even African women. He also talks about all the countries John visits.
I think the worst part was I originally had it lowered to 10. My main thinking if the webmaster replies to it is he can tell me anything inaccurate in it.
The saddest part about your responses is it shows how shallow webmasters can be. You look at the score and it dictates whether you are happy or not. You don't realize that 99 from two weeks ago hurts your site. No one believes a site with 4 pros and 3 cons is a 99.
It's sad because you are downplaying the incredibly thorough review mbaya gave your site. It shows you as being a little self-centered. You don't think other people will look beyond the score since you don't? Maybe some people aren't bothered by no downloads and could add some points back for the 20 point deduction. He posted an explanation for every deduction and addition. He could have buried your site but instead he gave it a 70 and left it open for others to decide what matters to them and what doesn't.
He did it for free on his own time. And your response is to come here and belittle him and his review? I know you advertise Rabbit's 89 review of your site and say you are the highest rated Asian site but you know what? When I saw "no downloads" Rabbit's 89 dropped to a 69, in my eyes. See why the number doesn't matter as much as you think?
Forgot to say, there's also an European version on Cum Louder called, Latin Asses in Public. Cum Louder has changed a lot and it's kind of hard to find but it's under "sites" in the preview. They seemed to knock off nearly every popular niche site from Bang Bros and Brazzers.
That's one of the old hidden gem sites. I checked my folder just to see and I actually have 74 videos from Asses In Public. I remember they had to remove a bunch of them. When it was running full-speed, I honestly thought it would end up being one of the greatest porn sites.
I was on there back in the summer and have some of their videos from then.
One is of Tanner Mayes, it is split into four separate parts, each part labeled like this tan035MAR_171305001, the second part is the same up to the underscore and changes to _171306001, third part is _171307001, fourth _17130801. The total scene is around 40 minutes long, but the downloaded parts are only 10 minutes each. There aren't any splash screens though. Each part fades out and the following part picks up right where it left off.
They do have some good videos, especially some of the older videos of now well-known models early in their careers, but the older ones are split into as many as 10 parts. About the only way to watch those is to line them up in a row in a media player playlist or else each part in those older ones are only 2-3 minutes each.
The technical quality varies a bit, but of the newer videos I have they are 640 high end with 1,900 bitrate. Occasionally you'll find a HD video that they've licensed from some other site.
From my experience, all of the ATK sites are much better for pictures than videos.
I didn't have that problem. I did the full tour, mainly because I was wanting to see if they had added the full zips yet (this was last week), and then clicked "Join Now" and received the discount. I actually had planned on posting a re-review of the site in the next few days that will be adding +4 to my original score.
I just clicked the comment to post a comment about the full set zips. I haven't downloaded any of them yet, but will be sure to check them with the WinRar software as I download them. I'm starting to think that $20 on WinRar to replace WinZip was one of my best investments!
I have been a member on ATK Galleria, ATK Exotics and ATK Premium, and to be honest, none of them are that great for movies. Exotics has some full scene downloads. Galleria has very few full scene downloads. Premium has most of their movies in 2 parts, which is better than 10, but a lot of Premium's movies are licensed from DDF/1ByDay.
I guess though, if I had to pick one for movies, I would go with Premium. The best thing about ATK Premium to me is that nearly every model is hot. It is sort of a best of the best site, that has their best models from each of their sites. Like with ATK Exotics, you are going to see a lot of average at best models, most of which are hardly desirable to download movies of.
Premium has some models that caught me off guard, like Twisty's Treat of the Month Georgia Jones, ATK Premium has a ton of her content, more than any site has, as a good example of their high quality models. Most of the models they have on Premium have 2,000 or more pictures and a handful of movies as well of each one.
I think ATK is going to give you a ton of women, pic quality is pretty good 1500, videos leave a lot to be desired. No full clips, and the quality isn't that good either. Picture wise though, the sheer number of models on this site is crazy. Let me throw a few numbers at you.
Models that have the name that start with letter A - 237
With the letter J - 145
With the letter K - 162
With the letter L - 175
With the letter M - 198
With the letter S - 190
As you can see, that right there is over 1,000 models. I'm not for sure the total, but I have to imagine it is over 2,000 models.
You also will get some really great nearly amateur photos of some of the top Euro models like Eve, Zafira, Sophie. That are from the early years of these model's careers. The only model I haven't found on here that I always check for is Lucky. I checked Lucy, Lucie, but nothing. Everyone else is here and many you haven't heard of and some that you wish you never saw!
It is a great site though I've been an ongoing member off and on for the last several years and have most of the stuff from it that I want. Updates come in bunches, daily too. One warning, not all of the content is exclusive. I know that with Eve, I've seen several of the sets on Twistys as well.
Paul Markham, I've heard of it but haven't tried, I believe that is the one that Sapphic Erotica gets their material or girls from? I do love Sapphic Erotica, so if it is anything like it, it should be great.
Karups PC, I have considered joining it more times than probably any site that I haven't joined. Matter of fact, I'm heading over to it after I finish this to see if they have a model list up. I've heard nothing but good things about Karups' line of sites.
If you have been on 1byday, especially back a few years ago, that is very similar to ATK Galleria. Loads of content, quality is average. Though, I heard 1byday is revamping their already great site. I'm stuck as well, I'm going to join a couple of sites tonight.
Thanks Loki, I have always liked the ATK sites, they were one of the first sites (Galleria) I remember joining, along with Karups PC. I did not realize how frustrating it was going to be bouncing from site to site. I wanted to bang my head on the monitor. I'm sure I missed content too.
Also can understand and agree about the natural and hairy site. On that part, I don't mind the pubic hair, I prefer it over clean shaven. I just don't care for the hairy underarms and legs. Even ATK Exotics has some models with the very hairy underarms. I can't say I have ever known a woman in real life that has hairy underarms or legs.
And from now on, I will go back to joining one ATK site at a time. That is just too much content.
Normally, I wouldn't join a site or network for $50. There's another that I keep almost joining, Killer Gram, it's a British site, they keep going up on their price. I think it was $39 last time I checked and Abby Winters is the other, also nearing $40 a month but because I was going to join ATK Exotics and ATK Petites, I didn't see the one-time join of the network as too much for one month. I definitely feel different about that now. I hope we're not heading towards high quality, unique sites jacking their prices up. Just checked and Killer Gram is down to $24.99 a month. I'm glad I mentioned that or I would have forgotten to check it.
I find the hair part unusual. I think everyone knows my favorite model is Eve Angel. She was never fully shaven and always had some hair.
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