I tend to bounce back and forth from focusing more on photos than videos, then the next month will be focused more on videos. I also have mixed feelings about the photo set sizes. I'll see some small sets without any nearly same poses, but think I would like to see a little more. Then I'll see a set with 300 pictures with half of them being nearly identical poses as the other half. A few of the photo sets on ATK Exotics were around the 100 MB size, but most were 15-40 MB. I've downloaded photo sets from one site as big as 1.2 GB.
My really big problem with photo sets is the skip of the tease that you can see in the videos. The perv in me likes those photos where the model's panties are pulled over just slightly enough to sneak a peek, but more and more these days go from standing in thong to laying nude without any of the middle parts included.
Yeah, back to the old the models are good enough to make up for the lack of technical quality. Now, some of those newer videos, like Emy Reyes, those are I think 640-720 high end res and look pretty good, not HD, but they aren't terrible and they're in full scenes. The ones that frustrated me was Wendy, who is one of my favorites on ATK Exotics and some of her movies are split into parts. It wouldn't be so bad, but she's one of the models feature on the front member page. Still, I was in a photo mood and the full zips made up for it.
Funny coincidence, right after saying I wasn't familiar with the dime piece category, I heard a guy say, "She's a dime piece, a fine piece of female specimen". Jess is one of my favorites as well, also Emy Reyes earns the dime piece. I do like the originality of using dime piece, but I found searching through the dime pieces to be a subjective mess.
I thought the Emy collection was enough to pay for the monthly price. The photo sets they have of her are the best photos I've seen of her. In the Crack has some really good content of her as well. Especially if you haven't seen her glammed up.
Hey Drooler, I mentioned it in an email last year sometime to them. The response back said that they have an easy way around it since they do give the option of a pop-up that has all of the links to each zip for each set. I tried explaining to them that with my connection speed, I click one and it is done, before I can even click the next one, but they seemed to write it off as not a big deal.
The bad thing, and I tried to explain this to them as well. I am to the point that I join the site, then get tired of fooling with all the downloads and all the does is make me not want to go back anytime soon. They didn't see that as a big deal either.
I think what really hurts them is I am a pretty regular member on Twistys and Teen Dreams, and those sites have such easy zip downloads. Find a model you like on TD, click, click, click all the little zip icons and 20 minutes later I have 30 full sets. On this site, it is click, click, click, and I have one set.
I don't understand it either. I don't know how hard or how much work it would be to put the zips into one file, but I do know that making a zip of music from separate zips takes about 30 seconds. I'm really not for sure about any of the ATK sites anymore. The Premium one, which I really like, has gone back up in price after a month of a lower price.
I guess they figure as long as there are "worse" sites, that they can get by with it. I think we are about to go into porn recession, nearly every site I've been to lately has either dropped off or has cut back on the content. Surprisingly, 21st Sextury has started making HD sites. It is kind of like Jerry Seinfeld in that Mr. Bizarro episode, where everything was opposite!
I know of Krystal, I had seen her on another site. I try to keep my porn tastes diverse and Krystal is definitely one of the hottest black models I have seen. Being married to a Latina sometimes makes me skip the Latinas, Latina women can be touchy about other Latinas! The only site that I have seen that has the quality of black models that ATK Exotics has is ExpliciteArt, which is a glamour site, but their photographer John Root loves black women, so he has some really sexy ones on his site as well. You have to love the guy's thought process, "After I had sex with her, I filmed her with another man"!
Hey WWW, I find it surprising that I haven't joined also. ATK made the right move by putting how much content they have of each model on each site. I wouldn't have realized that ATK Exotics had such a blend of models if not for them advertising on ATK Premium and Galleria. I had always been under the misconception that ATK Exotics was mostly Asian models. The biggest reason, they have many on Galleria that I would have listed as exotic like Eve Angel, who despite being Hungarian is often listed as Hispanic. Unlike a lot of porn fans, I'm not real big on the Asian models, so that had slowed me from joining. I'm going to try Exotics out when it comes time to join ATK Premium again, instead of it. Thanks for the info on Lenka, the most I have found of her is on twistys, but I prefer her short hair content and twistys had the most I have seen with it. She has a great scene with Anetta Keys, who is another that I thought would qualify as exotic. I believe that 30 minute girl/girl scene is on one of the 21st Sextury sites, probably Club Sandy. Lenka and Anetta really seemed to like each other ha ha!
I've been thinking about joining. It is kind of surprising that I haven't since I'm a regular member on ATK Galleria and ATK Premium. There are several models from the ATK Premium that I remember seeing as featured on ATK Exotics that looked interesting. If you can answer this it would be appreciated, is Lenka on ATK Exotics? If you don't know which she is, that is okay, she is just one of those models you rarely see, but has an amazing natural body.
Good review, I may just check it out and see. I didn't realize they had a lot of content on it.
Denner, I don't think the amount of reviews is right. ATK Galleria made some changes around the first of the year and I think it reset their old reviews. If you notice on the TBP facts it's first listed in December 2011. Galleria has been around, I think, since around 2001. Whatever change went into effect in December 2011 has created a new page or caused the old reviews to no longer apply to it. It's pretty confusing really. This is my guess though it may be wrong. ATK launched the ATK Network, which has Galleria, Exotics, Hairy, Archives and Petites all in one package. My guess is that since it has Archives, they removed the old content from Galleria and filled the Archive site with it. Maybe since they did that, it makes ATK Galleria a "new" site since they seemed to have removed nearly all of the old low-quality content from it.
I really would recommend this one, ATK Petites, the most for a new member to the ATK sites. ATK Exotics and ATK Hairy are very niche dominated. That leaves Petites, Premium and Galleria. Premium used to be their most balanced site since they had models from all niches. Now, Petites does that, including having some of Premium's content and having its own exclusive content. Galleria is the biggest of the sites and the oldest. I think they have over 2,500 models, but Petites has some of its content too. One exception that I think you like is Tanner Mayes. I don't remember if Petites had her or not, but Galleria has 30 photo sets and 6 videos of her, if she would be a deal breaker for you, then Galleria might be the better choice, but if not, then Petites will give you the broadest view of the ATK sites. One good thing, once you've been a member of any of their sites you start getting the $19.95 promo emails.
On all the ATK sites they have a DVD link in the navigation menu. This takes you to a DVD store that shows up in my Firefox tab as "Kick Ass DVDs" These DVDs can be bought for $29.99 and also have a VOD option. I found a few of the DVDs that had stars on them that are also on ATK Petites and can say with pretty high confidence that the scenes on the site with a regular membership are not the ones on these DVDs. One model that I checked both DVDs and the site for is the little Latin/Asian Kat since she has content on their DVDs and on the site, the videos in the site membership of Kat are not the scenes they have of her from the DVDs.
The best way to explain the models on the ATK sites is to say it's a lot like FTV's models. You will find some mainstream stars (in 2012), but the content will be older, from the earlier part of their careers. There are some U.S. stars like Jenaveve Jolie (very early in her career), Kat that I mentioned earlier, Amia Miley/Moretti, Jana Jordan, Jayme Langford are some examples that come right to my mind since I downloaded those and some have a ton of content. Both Jayme and Jana have over 100 combined photo/video sets each.
While looking through the DVDs, I just happened to have a banner ad for kickass (dot) com. And it took me to a Kickass Pictures site that looks similar to Wicked Pictures. It looks like they have around 1,600 scenes from the Kickass studio on it and the preview does let you see everything they have so you could check that out. Doing a PU search it is listed as Kick Ass Pass on here. Looks like a good site from what I can see, but also looks like a once $15 discounted price was changed to $30 price.
Last, most of the models are not going to be known by name. For every Jana Jordan there's a dozen unknowns. Hope that helps or at least doesn't confuse lol
Hey PP, believe it or not, this was my first time joining Petites, so I was a bit thrown off by some of the numbers. I am even a little confused by their use of the word "featured" on so many sets as these look like exclusive sets, is that how you see those? The only negative I see from it would be if someone had been on Exotics and Galleria, then joined Petites based on the preview which doesn't show all the sets, but has the number "42 sets" "X amount of photos". Then once inside, they realize they already have half of the sets. I do wonder though if they are the exact same sets since a couple I downloaded were same outfit, same setting, same model, but the file size was a little bigger. One was 85.1 MB for the high quality on Petites, the one that looks identical from Exotics was 79.9 MB. Other than that, I like the site better overall than Galleria. One other thing, have you gotten some video files from the ATK sites that are not complete? I have noticed a few are showing up on the site as HD with a total size of 1.2 MB. I thought it was typo, but when I downloaded it, it was in fact 1.2 MB or about 6 seconds.
Thank you for letting me know that someone did something about it. All I really remember is asking her what a building was, she looks at it and kind of keeps walking. They then ask her to point at a tree. Then it is the, "Show a little skin" comment, she just shakes her head and says no. It skips forward and asks about a date on a plaque or stone. She has no idea what the date stands for. You can just see the anger building. I will say that she stood up to them, she curses them several times after they asked her to dance. I did chuckle at first because she doesn't speak good English usually, but those curse words were quite clear. Then I stopped laughing when she looked down and said, "I don't like this". If you check out my overall reviews, I rarely even join the American reality sites just because of this type of thing that for some reason some companies think is entertaining.
When I come back to ATK Premium, probably will be November or December, I will adjust my score with a follow-up review. And thanks for the info on new Eve material. I was just mainly asking because I had been a member just 2 months before the email asking, so I was seeing if there was anything new of Eve. No need to reply to this if you are busy. Just wanted to say thanks.
The question I had asked was just a basic one asking about if you all were going to have any new Eve Angel material. I didn't think too much of not getting an answer, then I sent one offering a tip that several sites have started using, that I thought would help ATK Premium. It is just a tip about making a preview page that shows all of the models and how many pic sets and video sets you have of each model. Xisty has an excellent one that looks to take minimal time and work to make. It is a nice touch for prospective new members to be able to see what all you have before paying.
I then sent a complaint about the interviews/behind the scenes clips. I enjoy these clips, so it isn't that I didn't want them. I just found some to be disrespectful. As a Psychologist in Los Angeles, I deal with ex-pornstars as patients on a nearly daily basis, so I was just speaking from experience in the email I sent about these. I have found that most of the models are very sweet in person, very normal even. The questions are great that you all ask, but some of the requests of asking to do things in public in countries that really look down on public shows of sexuality, was a little much. I will explain.
It is of Eve Angel and is in the Behind the Scenes/Interview section. I understand that these women are being paid to be on a site, but I was quite shocked when I seen Eve nearly crying mad because she was asked to "dance a little" in her home country of Hungary. With an American model, this would be no big deal. I live in California, women here are half naked in public everyday. I spoke with Zsanett (Sandy) a few years ago in Florida. My wife and I recognized her, she was very nice and was telling me that Eve was her favorite model to work with. This was not at a porn convention or anything like that. Zsanett was in Florida to see relatives and we ran into her at a store. She went on and on about how sweet Eve is and how she does all of these animal activist acts of kindness.
So, it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth towards ATK Premium to keep probing her in that interview in Hungary. I loved the parts where she was just talking about her likes, though she seemed frustrated with her English, she still tried her best. Just that one clip was bad where you all had her pointing at a tree, asking her to show a little skin, asking her to dance a little. It makes her look dumb, just like the site Mike's apartment who ask her in her clip, "Do you like cartoons?" I expected that from Mike's Apartment, it is an American reality site, as an Italian-American, I will say, most Americans are jerks. I didn't expect that type of probing from ATK Premium. It came off as ridiculing Eve.
This combined with the no replies to emails made me a little disappointed with ATK Premium. It is good to see that you all are becoming more involved. And I'm sure that you all mended fences with Eve. Thank you for replying.
I do remember when ATK had the AMKingdom logo instead of the ATK one, and do believe their main office is in Florida. The CS rep that responded to my email kept mentioning UK and members "favourite" model instead of favorite. I actually wrote to complain to them also about the treatment of some of the models in the behind the scenes clips. If you have watched any of those, everyone from the photographer to the hairdresser/make-up person, and the woman who asks questions have British accents.
In one though, with Eve Angel, they go to Hungary, her home country, and have her walk around the cities with them explaining history. She speaks and understands very little English. They start asking her the dumbest questions, "What happened at this spot in 1958?" because there is a marker that says 1958. She was born in the early 80s. Also, "Could you point at that building and tell us what it is?" It was obvious that pointing is seen as rude in Hungary. She says no. They continue with these boneheaded questions. Then it hits a boiling point when the cameraman asks her to, "dance a little" thousands of Hungarians walking around. She says no. He says, "Ok, show us something." She says no. He asks something else, the woman with him asks something else. Finally, Eve says, "I'm not doing that! All the f*cking Hungarians around, it is not right!" she also tells them she is not happy with the shoot, they are being too personal that she is there to model.
I expect this type of badgering from some of our US sites like Bang Bus who are in it for humor as well as sexy. But I thought it was really sad for the ATK sites to badger a model like this. She was fine with spreading nude, in privacy, for the behind the scenes, changing clothes in front of them, everything, but you could tell they went too far by going against Hungarian customs.
See, I'm on the opposite end as you when it comes to women. Being from California, most of the US pornstars look just like girls I see everyday out here. I have some US models I like, Eva Angelina, Aria G, Teagen for example, but I tend to prefer the Euros. Even so, didn't want you to think I was trying to debate your score. I was mainly just letting you know what they had told me.
I too have wondered about the Premium label. I wouldn't have posted this if I hadn't seen where you are from USA like I am. Seems they speak a different English than we do, according to the email that I received back from them, "ATK Premium is a collection of the best from each of our sites, ATK Galleria, ATK Hairy, ATK Exotics, based on model popularity."
Which does make some sense when you think of it. Kind of like a Greatest Hits cd or Best of cd. I explained to them that I thought maybe it would be higher quality on the pictures and/or videos. Their reply back, "If it were higher quality video and pictures; don't you think we would be charging more for it than we do for the other ATK sites?" I thought about digging a hole to bury my head in!
Thanks PinkPanther, I thought I had seen her before, but couldn't figure out where. I will have to join Teen Dreams soon, some of that content that shows in the preview of Teen Dreams on her main page is the same content on Babelicious, I think. But there is a lot more on Teen Dreams.
I agree, Teen Dreams has some of the worst aliases for the models. I remember when I first joined it and couldn't find Sandra Shine. I had no idea she had been listed as Judit. Maybe the worst of all, one of the few other newer models that I really like is Black Angelica and she is listed as Nicky. I've never seen her listed as anything different than either Black Angelica or Angelica except the K spelling Angelika, how they get Nicky is beyond me! On the good side, I hadn't been on TD in nearly 6 months and looks like they are getting some interesting new models including this one Satin that I see in the updates.
Have to say that I agree with Panther. I had been planning to change my score after just finishing a month's membership for the 4th time in the last year, except my score is going up.
You might want to check some of those things you questioned. Like the HD videos, the ones I have downloaded that say HD are 1280 high end, 3000+ bitrate, I have several here of Ginger, also Regina Ice, that are HD, the bitrate could be a little higher like on some sites that are hitting 8000+ bitrate, but the resolution is still HD standard. If the bitrate was 8000+ there would be people complaining that the files are too large to download.
As for bringing the original models back, I couldn't agree with you more. I miss Eve and Sandra and Aneta, but the truth is, Eve isn't even doing material for her own site anymore. Sandra is doing her own site, Aneta seems to come and go like the seasons, and she was in a car accident recently. Just to name a few of those originals. You have to remember, many of those originals are getting older, getting married, having kids, etc..
While I am a big fan of alsangels and alsscan as well, Alex has a lot of his content stored. If you get a new Eve video for example, it may have been recorded in early 2007, as was her last video that I saw on alsangels, even though he didn't release it until near the end of the year.
I think the biggest strengths of babelicious, is that even if you have the sets, the babelicious ones are usually a much better resolution. Also, having great customer service like babelicious has, has to count for something, since we have all ran into the sites that don't have any customer service, throw in the multi-daily updates and I just have trouble seeing this site as going down. I also read the memo that they were considering combining some of the sites onto the sexybabes.tv site and think that is a great idea too. Site is always up, fast downloads, simple navigation that will be even easier once those sites are combined, not requiring a separate login, and I don't know JB. Those are many steps forward in my opinion.
Thanks for the link. The biggest reason that I don't like the music. I can remember being a teenager when my cousin ripped off his dad's porn stash. I would watch them at night, but never could turn the volume up since my parents would hear it. One day, I finally got to turn the volume up and bomp-chi-chi-waa-waa was all I heard! Being young, I was hoping to hear dirty talk and moaning, but nothing but that damn music ha ha!
That's called stuck between two women who are tens and you have to pick just one! One thing to think about is if pic size matters to you, if so Babelicious beats Twistys easily, Babelicious has some of the biggest pictures I have seen. The videos between the sites are similar. Twistys has Babelicious beaten in quanity. Though, Babelicious has bonus sites that are actually quite good. I'm a member right now on Babelicious and was a member last month on Twistys. The best way to put it is if you haven't tried one, take that one. Both sites overall are very similar in models and overall quality. Same price too and here is another similarity, both sites have great staff working for them and will answer any questions you ask. So, my advice is, take whichever one bends over quickest!
Thanks for the reply Nick. I definitely think the problem with the music is that you can't always hear the girls. I do like music during the tease parts, sort of like a strip club deal there or even at a low volume throughout. That is great about the exclusive material, I will have to join up again and check it out. I thought the content on all of the sites was great. I really liked the bikini site as well. You are onto a really good thing with the combination of soft/hard/glam/. The site including the bonus sites really caught me off guard. I didn't realize how much content I was getting myself into! You know you are doing something right when the biggest complaint is the music in the videos. And thanks for the huge pictures. I didn't even know pics could be that big. I will be back on the site soon, probably in about 2 weeks, and check out the exclusive material and give you some feedback on the site's feedback box.
A few things to note when reading a TBP review:
Under "dates" on the top right of the review you will see "date listed", "facts updated (with date)".
The last time the facts were updated was 5-16-2018 on Babes Network.
It's one of the dilemmas with reading reviews. As you can see, the date the facts were updated was right around the time you're seeing problems with their updating. With the amount of sites that are reviewed and updated there will always be a chance of running into the problem you're running into. Sites change how they update, sometimes overnight, without telling anyone.
If you will look in the Porn Users reviews on the Babes Network, you'll see that there are newer reviews than TBP has. It's one of the strengths of Porn Users, owned by TBP, members post reviews with newer information than TBP has.
If you'll notice, the newest Babes Network review by a Porn User was on 12-18-18, and that member only scored the network a 70.
This is coming from a member of PU, not a staff member. Porn Users often times has the newest information on a site. You should consider writing a review (on Porn Users) on Babes Network it will at least help someone avoid the problems you had. And trust me, we've all been there and I think it's how most of us ended up here on Porn Users.
I just can't pass up sites with exclusive Anetta content, especially when she has the blonde highlights. I found some of the best pictures of her over on thenextgirl website. Problem is the site isn't updating these days and is barely worth joining because they just have maybe 50 models. And most of the videos are just the photoshoot ones, but they do have one video of Anetta, looks to be really old of her, she doesn't have the tattoo that she has now in this video and is laying on a bed fingering herself, one of the best I have seen of her. It is only 5 minutes long though, but she does seem really into it.
Your response is a lot like mine except I added a few extra words. My membership had just recurred for the 3rd month. I hadn't downloaded anything from Net Video Girls and was going to focus on it this month. I notice their usual very responsive webmaster is choosing not to respond.
I seriously hope my very positive review of Exploited College Girls didn't help them make the decision to split the "network" up.
I hate to hear that. Bang actually did a lot to help me, including refunding the membership I used but the biller echst.net lied to me multiple times and are still lying to me.
They had charged me $7.95, $19.95 (3x), I didn't realize it was that many times until I kept going back to my bank account. They (echst.net) told me it was for Viv Thomas. I'm a pretty big fan of Viv Thomas but hadn't been a member in over a year. Their customer service rep (Chris) told me he would refund all the charges on the supposed Viv Thomas account. He refunded one $19.95. I contacted him again, friendly at that, he said it was probably bank processing that was slowing it down. I waited a week, no more refunds. I contacted him again, he said he was going to put the refunds in again and this time was starting to get an attitude about it. Still didn't get any of the refunds. I contacted him again. He said their system had problems and that most likely caused all the problems, "I'm going to put the refunds in again, right now." That was 3 weeks ago, still haven't received any of the other refunds.
The frustrating part is the supposed "Viv Thomas" account started on the same day as my Bang account and the biller is the same for both sites. Talking sense to Chris hasn't done me any good because he just makes the same comment and comes up with a new excuse each time. I even have 9 emails from him. That's how long the problem has been going on.
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