I edited my original post to reflect this. Once in contact with Bang's support they said it couldn't be Bang Live because it's pay as you go, not a recurring membership. But instead of blowing me off at that, they helped me track it down through echst.net. A support member there found that the charges were from a Met Art site, seems echst.net also is Met Art's biller but I haven't been a member on any of the Met Art sites in awhile. The support member closed the account and refunded me. He also found a third charge I hadn't noticed all the way back in May and refunded it. So, problem fixed but I do think that shows why I had been using prepaid cards. And I'll start paying more attention to my bank statements.
Thanks RA, still waiting on a response. I sent the email to the email address their webmaster listed above around 9 PM EST last night and so far only an automated response. The biller from the best I can tell is echst.net, that was what concerned me when I saw it on my bank statement. On the other side of it, the card I used is through my local bank so I put the "approve before allowing purchases" on it temporarily. I'll give them a few more hours before replying to their webmaster in this section.
It was the first time I've had this type of charge happen. I was a big part of that once hack of Teen Dreams where the webmaster blamed us all for sharing our passwords and banned us ... later apologized and reinstated everyone. The thing that really worried me is when I finally signed in to Bang Live, it said I had up to $225 of credits to use. I'm just now getting to email them to get it resolved and will post back and edit some of this if they get it fixed. I never could do those webcam shows. I remember when Eve Angel used to have live shows on her first site and you could chat with her but it didn't appeal to me for some reason.
I can tell you I hadn't ever heard of Bang Live until I went to echst(dot)net to see who was charging me. I then didn't know it was a cam site until I had to sign in on Bang Live (with the login from Bang) just to try and cancel it. I did list that wrong earlier. From what I can tell the Bang Live account is still active even though I went through the cancellation process. The main problem I've had with it is the email address that you said isn't being used. It was sent to me in an automated response when trying to cancel. I'll include a screenshot if it's allowed.
I'll accept that it could have been hacked.
I have a long history here at Porn Users, 11+ years, 300+ reviews of porn sites and one theme about me that's never changed is I am a collector. Cam sites wouldn't be something I would be interested in. I will accept that I could have clicked on a picture of a hot model thinking it was content but I still think you all have to set something up to send an email when someone joins a site, cam site. Here's the image if it will let me post it:
I agree about the possibilities of computer problems but there's still a few problems, including:
#1 No email to tell me I was signed up for Bang Live.
#2 The support email address returning my email.
#3 The cancellation page not having an instant cancel. It instead makes you sign in on Banglive.com then has you send the email to the wrong email address.
#4 Their Automated Response sending me an email address that their webmaster says isn't used for support. I'll drop a screenshot in an online photo album and include a link to it in the reply to their webmaster.
Being an overly-analytical person (I hate it), all these things went through my head before I decided to post the comment. And maybe most importantly, through all this, it still shows my account to BangLive as active despite me going through the cancellation process three times. It's hard to believe the same error is happening over and over. Their cancellation page has a clear "cancel" button but as mentioned above it then asks you to sign in. The initial problem was I never knew I was a member on Bang Live so I had no idea my login from Bang Prime was the same.
Thank you for the reply. I have had a rough few weeks, as seen by me looking at my bank account to even remember what sites I have memberships to. Bang seems like a reputable enough company to fix it but I would hope they look at the screenshot I include a link to and see that their site is sending people the wrong email address for support. Which to me shows a sloppiness that very easily could cause people to be charged for other upsells without verifying they want the upsell and without sending them an email to tell them they joined an upsell.
The edit time limit caused me not to be able to edit.
The old workaround still works, I just tried it. Sign up like regular. When you enter your information make sure to miss the CVV Code and the expiration date. It will say your bank rejected the purchase and ask if you want to use a secondary biller. It is currently Epoch or Paypal through Epoch. That makes it a lot easier to fix if you run into problems.
Canceling is still tricky but their customer service told me it is just bad programming. If you go into your account within the members area you will see what Bang Bros packages you are registered for. If you just joined Bang Bros with no add-ons, it will be the only one listed but if you joined any add-ons those will be listed too. You have to cancel each one. They have a button on each to cancel so it's not too difficult. This was supposed to be a way for a member to retain their access to say an add-on package without having to pay for the main site and any other add-on packages.
I don't have any problems with them but I do use a prepaid card. Their customer service will respond at times. They are the ones that told me to use a prepaid card. You can get the cards online for a $5 fee from giftcards(dot com). If you find a promo under $10, the added $5 isn't too bad and unlike some sites, their billing processes prepaid cards. There are some sites that reject prepaid cards, especially those using CCBill.
You can also use any prepaid/gift Visa/Mastercards you have. I only know about those from having a credit card that rewards members with points that can be traded in for a "Debit" card. I pick up about $100 a year in rewards on it and use that for sites that are questionable in their billing practices.
I should have been clearer about the Super Pack's 4 sites. At one time, all 4 of those sites were standalone sites for $24.95 each and were stream only. So to put all 4 into one package for one price is a bundle. Once they made this bundle, they started allowing downloads. So those sites are no longer stream only and you get all four for $24.95. I had time to think about what I had said in this comment and my review. Haze Her is another of the addons, but the deal I was offered was to Brandi Belle for $1.25 for 3 days unlimited access and downloads. With the fast internet speed was able to download the 200+ scenes from it in two days. This offer came about 2 weeks into a membership. I signed in, it popped up and said it was a gift for being a loyal customer.
And I didn't notice the negative part of the upsells since I usually have at least one of the addon packs so I get most of those scenes that would otherwise require payment to download. It's not much different than how Videobox is with their Evil Angel and Vivid channels. VB keeps the Kink and Reality Kings content out of search results, but the Evil Angel and Vivid still show up.
As for middle of the road, I would guess you are running into the same thing you did on Reality Kings since the models are more on the curvy side. Outside of subjectivity, it's hard to deny the technical quality, the quantity or the value. But you shouldn't feel too bad there. A lot of our members here love Teen Mega World, I was bored with it within a few days because all the models are slim. I'm running into that again on another site rated high by members here, Fucked Hard 18. I've been a member for 2 weeks and have downloaded 6 scenes/videos/pictures because the models don't really interest me. I've always had problems with that when writing a review since I try to be subjective towards the quality, quantity, but have trouble being subjective towards the model types if a site mainly focuses on one type.
I don't know if this will help on Bang Bros, but I started using the "sites" button and going through each of their sites instead of trying to go through the whole network at one time. This way I found the sites/genres I preferred that they have, from there was able to go to individual models that stand out.
I don't have a membership right now, but this is what I remember being there.
Super Pack - Dancing Bear, The CFNM Show, College Rules and one other. These were $24.95 each around this time last year and were stream only.
DVD Pack - No idea what this is, it's some kind of high priced DVD site similar to Videobox.
Then they had a whole list of sites with Spanish name. If you join any of the Spanish sites, you get access to all of them for 24.95. It's very rare, mostly South American models. I want to say the name of it is Culiando.
They also had Reality Kings offers that actually changed price nearly everyday from $9.95 to $24.95.
The site I see when visiting as a guest is the same one I reviewed from. They have been putting subtle and not so subtle changes in for a couple years now, so it's hard for me to say if the changes were there when I was a member. I had been planning on joining again, probably this weekend and will let you know if you do and notice anything differently.
It's inside the members area. Once you have joined Bang Bros, you will see the super package offer. They also have a DVD site that you can add, but I didn't fool with it.
I definitely agree about the less English the better which is why I usually am joining the Euro sites. As hot as Eva Angelina is, she can become really annoying with the constant talking and screaming. Also saw a video recently of Tiffany Taylor teasing a guy and she said the same thing about 40 times in the video, "You're such a naughty boy" over and over and over! Yeah, Rocco gets a little carried away. The worst part about the males is that the best you can usually hope from them is that they are humorous, but even then they get annoying since we're not watching porn to see a comedy set.
I wouldn't completely blame the site for it. The amount of natural porn models in the US is less and less, and though Euro has a big selection of natural porn models, English speakers complain that the Euro models don't speak good English.
Or considering that I can easily download 50 GB a day, that would be roughly 125 GB that I missed out on or the equivalent of 31 DVDs at $20 a piece for $600.
You seem to have a problem with reading and understanding the purpose of a post or comment. The title is asking if anyone else ran into this problem in February. It's not hanging Bang Bros or the pay processor, it is just bringing up the oddity most likely brought on by the leap year month. You're always talking about how you are sick of the negativity, but all I ever read from you is you being negative towards other members. Do as I say not as I do, right? If you have nothing positive or constructive to add, I would appreciate if you didn't reply to me again. I'm not here to own anyone or to be a smartass.
We've had different experiences on this then. The memberships I've had are 30 days. My Reality Kings membership in December 09, according to my receipts started on December 17th, ended on January 16. Viv Thomas Video joined on January 12th, ended on February 11th. It's not that big of a deal as far as cost goes, but it's just the point if sites are doing this will all customers that could add up to a nice chunk of money.
I had the same thing happen with the "You won't be charged at this time" part, but haven't been charged anymore. I took it that the receipt was verifying your account in case you wanted to buy credits to see the private shows. I thought the shows were free, but backed out as soon as I seen the "go private" button. I'll keep an eye on my account. The email I received was on February 28th, so no charges or receipts for more charges since then. I also did the Epoch ID number look up and it doesn't show as active for the cam account.
I think this is right, the reason they called it bus was they used to have the girls sing, "The wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round" while giving them a blowjob in the videos. I always thought that was one of the funniest parts of their site since many of the girls would start cracking up trying to sing and give head at the same time!
But it definitely is just what looks to be a work van.
I would say the comments are the worst thing about the site. The pre-sex comments are usually hilarious, but once things get rolling he just has to say, "Show her the monster!". Not good.
Is that Tiffany Taylor on there? That site looks interesting. I used to live on the east coast and in the summer, there were these groups that would wear armor, and simulate the medieval times. I like the dresses the women wear, makes it look like work just to get one of those off!
Do they have any chasity belts, things like that? Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Thanks for the info on Renna. I have had a crush on her since seeing her years ago in a girl/girl scene called "Geek Girl Sex". She had a genuine quality about her. And considering the way the porn business is these days, it's a lot better to hear she is moving on in life instead of hearing a sad story, like we do with so many models.
On Hunter, I had never seen her, but know a member on here had mentioned her. I think you all are on the right track. I, myself, I usually like softcore or harder masturbation, but when a site can blend those with hardcore, I do think they will bring in a lot of potential customers.
If I think of any suggestions I will send them in an email. And thanks for the clean layout on your sites.
Since I know we have similar taste in models and in style of porn, do you think Blue Angel is maybe a little too extreme at times? I have a couple of videos of her from this site that have her fisting herself up to her wrist that just goes a little further than I like. I don't even like Eve's fisting videos.
I wish one of these sites would give Black Angelica her own site. She's pretty close to Eve in my book and she seems to have a great, fun personality. As for this Blue Angel site, on average, there are 2 "porn" updates a month, it will take years at that pace to even reach 200 sets.
Thanks Shap, I really need to re-join Twisty's again, it was one of my first reviews on this site. I love the Eve/Puma video you all have on Twistys, and at the time I wasn't saving pictures so I need to come back and get those pics of Eve. I will probably still try Blue Fantasies out, one is better than none, and I'm at the point with Eve that I have probably 80% of everything she has been in. Plus, I like Anetta Keys and Veronica, and all those other ones too! Eve kind of is the iciing for me when picking a site to try out for the first time.
I'm also interested in the Anette Dawn site you all have, just giving it some time to grow a little. Keep up the good work, Twistys was the 2nd paysite I joined a few years ago, mainly for the Aria content.
Sorry for the late reply, but yes that was the exact mistake I made. I just don't think those Nubiles step-family sites are near as good as the Team Skeet ones.
You know what? You're right. I never watch porn on my phone and never even thought to try it. I signed in on my iPhone and the old videos will play on it. I'm going to edit this into my review and add a few points to the score. It's still of no use to me since I'm not going to download porn on my phone then have to transfer it to my PC, but the content is there on mobile.
Here's the next question. Have you tried downloading it to your phone? I just used the streaming feature on the one I tried. I'm wondering if those files are just the very small resolution ones and that's why they don't have them on PCs/laptops. Good catch. And with you being able to on Android and I can confirm on iPhone.
If you're still on 21st Sextury, they have a whole Blue Angel site, Blue Angel Live, that is really good. It took me a while to take to her. I'm usually not into blondes except Mia Stone, but after awhile, might have even been the ALS content, I really started liking her.
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