Thank you, I'm getting the feeling this is becoming a normal trend for the more established sites to rest on the laurels, so to speak, had a membership at Sapphic Erotica and while it's still a good site, I can't tell much difference in the content shot in 2008 and 2012.
Shap, I couldn't remember the customer service email address. Probably also a compliment there since I've never had to use it before. I've been on Twistys for most of the year, except a month or two in-between memberships and go back to probably 2004 with the site, never had a problem with anything on the site, which is why it probably caused me to be more concerned. I do understand about the servers. I'm involved with a sports site that just started "upgrading" their servers, we've lost about 2% of 500,000 members over it since it has removed their blog access for several days and messed up their fantasy sports teams.
I'll send an email with this screenname exotics4me added in the subject. And definitely will appreciate the extra time. You continue to show why Twistys is the best overall site on the internet. Thanks.
If you still have your membership and want to get a laugh out of a music track, check out the Eve Angel/Black Puma video, it was filmed in two parts. This was either the first or second video set Twistys had of Eve. The music is a direct loop all the way through, but it gets damned catchy after awhile!
Glad to have helped on that one. I did give Twistys and Teen Dreams bonus points in their reviews for this feature that makes downloading lots of content much easier than most sites do. Earlier today, I loaded 135 .wmv and .zip files into on Teen Dreams in less than 5 minutes. Laid down and took a nap, got up a few hours later and everything was downloaded perfectly into the folders I had assigned the downloads to, no broken files, Firefox really is a great browser for porn once you get the add-ons and extensions.
Twistys site is very friendly if you work with it a bit. You can change what your left mouse click button does to download on one click. I have mine set to download .zip/.rar and .wmv/.mov/.avi
When you do this on Twistys, you can download movies by clicking the movie you want, then clicking by which part you want or full scene. Only needing two clicks.
The pictures zips are even easier, you don't even have to open the sets up. You can just left click the little zip icon beside of each set and it starts downloading. So those only take 1 click.
Another tip that the webmaster at Teen Dreams gave me awhile back is to use the add-on for Firefox, "DownThemAll"
If you go to a model's page on Twistys, you can list in the extension filter to download only .zip files. One click on the model's page in a blank area of the page, click downthemall in you context menu and it will load up all of the model's zips in that one click.
Twistys and Teen Dreams are two of the few sites that are programmed this way and it really makes downloading very easy. TD takes it a step further by having their movies on the model page already listed as .wmv, so you can also add the extension, .wmv to the filter and it will download all of the zips and movies for that model with one click. Very handy and efficient.
Have to agree Denner, I've kept a membership at Twistys now for nearly a year and have 5 more months left of my current one and plan to renew it to a 6 month membership again when it runs out.
The way I use the word glam is based more on that the models are usually dressed classy, my wife calls it a "prissy" factor, they're girly girls. Pretty hair, make-up, and not being overly vulgar. I always looked at Met-Art as "artsy". Twistys has a few models that don't masturbate, but even those spread. I think every model on the site spreads and probably 90% masturbate. They have added a new hardcore section that says they will be adding 14 hardcore scenes per month.
I wouldn't expect many of those dancing around videos. There is lots of masturbation on it, lesbian, hardcore boy and girl. Oh and if you join, they don't have the link up yet, but they also give you bonus access to Nicole Graves dot com.
I still think it is one of the best, if not the best deals on the internet. Just a basic listing from their main page says 2,000+ models, over 1,000,000 pictures and 17,000 videos. They have a very good search engine too. For example, if you search "Piper" even though she is listed as Gabrielle Lupin on Twistys, it will know that she also goes by "Piper" and take you to her page under the name Gabrielle Lupin. I guess the only downfall is the picture size at 1280 max, but those are zipped and very user friendly in downloading. You don't even leave the model's main page, it has a zip icon beside every set and you just click it.
I would compare the content though, very similar to In Focus Girls, just lots more of it on Twistys.
I don't want to come off as haughty or anything like that, but I do want to point out a few things and hope that you will understand that if nothing else, I am only defending my score of Twistys.
To start with, you mention the two bonus sites you went to. Those are network type sites that twistys should not be advertising as separate sites, unless they want to call Twistys the main page and take the content off Twistys, which they could do. But Anette Dawn, Blue Fantasies and Nicole Graves sites are 100% exclusive, none of the content is shared with Twistys and you get those 3 with a Twistys membership. You don't even have that listed as a pro, but have the others listed as a con. Maybe you reviewed it from a trial and didn't have time to check all the sites out?
Next is that I know of Twistys has never sold itself as a hardcore site. So, I don't see why you would take off for their lack of hardcore. I used this comparison before with another member, it would be like going to a hot dog stand and being mad because they don't have pizza.
One big reason that I point that out is because your highest rated site is 1byday, a site that is pretty much identical to Twistys in content. At the most, I remember 1byday having hardcore Fridays on their site last year and before then for awhile, but they rarely have more than 1 hardcore set per week, so why would you take off twistys score for not enough hardcore, but not 1byday's score?
I will agree that Twistys picture size should be bigger, but I won't agree about the video size, their standard for a couple of years or more has been 640-720 high end with 2000+ bitrates, that is above average quality. And if you look at 1byday, while their newer content is 1280 high end, their older content is 440 high end.
The part though that jumped out at me the most was when you made the comment about twistys models, I hate to tell you, but I would estimate that more than 90% of the models on 1byday are on twistys. Plus twistys has American models that 1byday doesn't, like Georgia Jones, Nicole Graves, Jessica Jaymes, Brea Bennett just to name a few.
This is the best way for me to say this.
1byday updates at best with 4 sets per day, and that isn't that common these days, it is more like 2 new sets per day as they split the updates with remastered sets. Twistys has 4-5 updates per day, probably half or more are exclusive. 1byday has no bonus content. Twistys has 3 exclusive bonus sites listed above. Twistys has at least 90% of the models 1byday has plus many American models 1byday doesn't have. Both sites have similar hardcore content. Twistys $19.95, 1byday $34.95.
Would have helped a lot if you had a review of 1byday and not just a rating. I would like to see the cons and how they compare to twistys.
I've enjoyed the three sites deal with Twisty's so much, that I went ahead and joined for 10 months. I know that Shap, Twisty's owner, posted recently on the Twisty's Forum about adding BF and AD as bonus sites, and that he will not raise the price. It might be the best deal going in porn, the 10 months is $99 non-recurring, that is only $9.90 a month.
I posted a comment about a week or two ago about Blue Fantasies and Anette Dawn now coming with Twistys. It is true, not for sure why TBP hasn't listed it.
It is all of the content on those sites too. I was worried it would just be viewable and not downloadable, but all of it is downloadable. It really surprised me too, and made me raise my score on Twisty's site. Shap, the Twisty's webmaster also said recently in the Twisty's forum that he will not raise prices.
I just happened to join Twistys for probably the 8th time earlier today! There are 14 sets of pictures of Shay, over 1,400 images total, and 6 videos, with 1 video being the Twistys Interview. Something I was going to leave a comment about, from what I am seeing Twistys is now including Blue Fantasies with Twistys, Blue Fantasies has 2 more Shay movies, that are not on Twistys. It looks like Twistys has decided to go for the jugular on other sites. If you get all this front page of the members area is offering for $20, it will be almost impossible for any site to compete.
I download at 900kb/s on Twistys and have downloaded for 2 straight hours without reaching the limit they talk about, which even says, "Higher than industry standard" meaning it is probably upwards of 20 GB, very few people can even download that much in a day. Also notice that they do not tell the number. I've never reached it, so why would I believe it is there?
Your comment about non-exclusive material is what made me read your review. Everyone has seen the sets that say, "This is an exclusive set" on Twistys.
I didn't say anything about your speed. I said that I've never had problems with speed on it.
There isn't a daily download limit on Twistys. There also are many exclusive sets on Twistys.
Sorry but I question any review that is made after 3 days of membership, and names two cons that are false. I also have never had speed problems and the very last word I would use for Twistys is a cheap site.
I used the same strategy you did on VB and added the Kink channel in the last week of a membership back about 5 months ago. That opened my mind back up on Ultimate Surrender since I hadn't seen any of their live sites until joining the Kink channel on VB. Even after a few months have passed now, I still find the scenes with the models I like, very good. But there are really only two models that I really liked, Dragon Lily and Isis Love. I'm not even for sure I like either of them for their skill in grappling, but instead, Dragon for being a very curvy Asian model which is rare in my experience and Isis for being so pretty, yet so dominant.
The navigation problems became more evident on Divine Bitches since there was no way to tell which scenes were just straight domination or ones that involved bisexual men. And with Ultimate Surrender, a simple "Live" tag system would make a huge difference. I just gave up on the photo sets which ended up disappointing me even more since I would have liked to get the Dragon Lily and Isis pictures. On the other hand, I still feel like Kink has improved a great deal over their earlier days when they had download limits that made most download limits today look huge. Hard to believe they used to limit members to 10 GB per month. And I'm thinking that's why they originally split the photo sets like they do. Since the limit was so low, I guess people complained they didn't want the full sets since it would be a bigger file.
Yeah, that was a pretty ugly argument that I finally just gave up on. I don't know what was going on with asmith at that time, he seems to be a good member these days. I don't know if it was one of those moments where he tried to make himself better known by refuting an established member or what. Either way, his view never changed towards my reviews, even after I wrote the follow-up and gave the points back since the DL limit was lifted on Ultimate Surrender.
I do notice that our comments are read on here by sites. Less than a month after my review of US, they lifted the DL limit and less than a week after my comment on Viv Thomas's video site not letting Teen Dreams members download his content as bonus content, but only letting them stream it, he has gone back and started letting the Teen Dreams members download his movies, though they are only 750 bitrate, compared to 2000 on his site.
Hey badandy400, thanks for the reply, because of all the complaints, I guess here on PU and from regular customers, this site (Ultimate Surrender) and all others owned by kink.com, have dropped their DL limits. Which at least lets us know that our voices are being heard here at PU! I need to change my score for this site since they fixed that limit. Thanks again.
I checked that August 9th poll, the question was, "On Average, how much time do you spend surfing porn on the internet daily?" Surfing being the key word, surfing means, "browsing" it has nothing to do with watching movies. "Surfing the internet" as defined by the Slang Dictionary means, "Using a web browser to search through the many home pages that make up the world wide web - also used to describe searching through the Internet as a whole."
As for you, I already told you, you are not a voice for the millions of internet users who can say "It is about how much you can watch". First and foremost, I consider myself a porn collector, I have favorite models, who I collect movies and pictures of. So a download limit can hamper the way I use porn. Your way is not the only way, as I told you before.
I hate to break it to you, but my estimation is that the very average porn fan downloads 1 GB per day, on average. The majority of HD clips that are coming out now are in the 750 mb to 1 GB range per CLIP. A full HD DVD will be in the range of 4 GB.
Look at other sites on here that have DL Limits, try Pier 999, where a couple of members have already complained about a 3 GB per day limit, that is 90 GB per month. A few have mentioned the 10 GB per DAY limit on Evelyn's World and one even mentioned an unknown DL limit that Twistys has that has to be in excess of 10 GB per day.
I'm not here to argue, but you made sure to draw my attention to this comment, and the funniest part of all, you criticize my score of this site, even though TBP, the parent site of Porn Users, has it rated closer to my score than yours. Their score is a 78, 8 points above mine, 12 points below yours. Even worse is that Duke of TBP has this site rated a 74, yet you are making it look like I'm the only person who has a problem with this site.
Last, I had more complaints with this site than just the DL limit, I ran out of room at the end and couldn't explain it all, though most of it was mentioned. The wrestling is 100% staged. If not, the parts wouldn't go in the exact same order. First round clothed, second round topless, and so on. Second, the movies are not downloadable in full parts which is a big complaint of mine on any review of a site that uses split clips. I also mentioned the repetitive nature of the site and the way the videos are almost all the same, nothing original after watching one match. Last and the deal killer was the DL limit and high price, which is nearly 33% higher than 6 months ago. Those are all very valid complaints. Not to mention, a 70 isn't a terrible score. If you're going to knock others for using wrong criteria, I would check on my own if I were you, seeing that your score is much higher than TBP's. I won't reply again, so you can reply if you want, if not, that is just as well.
Good grief, my comparison is flawed though it is based on a monthly bill, yours is based on a one time visit. Think you might better rebuild that one so that it is based on a monthly payment like the site is. And no, if I go to an all you can eat restaurant, that means no limits. Restaurants that have limits say, "All you can eat on one plate" this site didn't tell of that limit.
I tested something today, you mentioned 1-2 hours being the typical porn usage by the members in a poll on here. I will take the middle at 1 1/2 hours and say I downloaded 4 GB from Videobox in 1 1/2 hour yesterday. 4 GB per day for 30 days is 120 GB, the limit is 10 GB. Even if it was 30 minutes of downloading per day, I would get over 1 GB, which is 30 GB per month, still triple the limit. At my download speed, I can download for 10 minutes per day on this site for $30 a month. That is a rip off.
I tried to contact the site 3 times as explained in my discussion with SnowDude. I posted a comment asking the other members if they had a problem with a limit, which tells you the hassle I went through trying to find out about the limit.
On the trust rating, ask yourself this, did I post anything false in the review? All the information about the content, quality of, was true. So what is not to trust? A number? There is no laid groundwork on here for how to grade a site. Most of the members have said on here that they don't just read the score, since we all vary on our opinions. Most posted they are looking for facts about the site, amount and quality of content. If you are basing joining a site on someone else's score, you are going to be in trouble. For example, I'm not an anal sex fan. If I were to review an anal sex site, the score would be lower even if the quality was excellent, because I didn't enjoy it. An anal fan could then say, "Excellent amount of content and quality" without looking at the score.
Last, notice that I listed how much I dropped for the DL limit, now if someone reads it who doesn't mind the DL limit, they can in their head add those points back, right? It just comes off as you loving this site and not liking my low score of it. Everything you complained about has been answered in this post.
I don't get it. First, I write reviews to give my opinion. If I pay for 30 days, I better have access for those 30 days, especially when it is not advertised on their site when I joined. Since you took the long term look at the site, take a short term look instead.
On average I can download 333 MB a day which would equal 10 GB in a month. 333 MB is not one FULL episode. So what, I watch one part one day, the next part the next day? You're being unrealistic. Nobody said anything about being able to watch all of it. I just want my money's worth. I can go on countless sites for less than $30 a month and get unlimited movies.
Let me put it this way, I will never join Ultimate Surrender again, and my score for the site shows that feeling. As for 84% watching 1-2 hours per day. First, that is maybe 20 people, there are millions of people who watch porn. Second, you think because 84% of a couple of dozen people says something that means it would be that way if we asked say, 1,000,000 people?
Tell you what ask anyone, "If you pay for your power bill by the month, how many days do you expect to get power?" There you go. No trust because we have different opinions? You must have quite the ego to believe your opinion is better than someone else's. You're not criticizing my actual review, which are some of the most in-depth on the site, just my opinion on a number that we all different ideas of what that score means. You can also look at the replies between myself and Snowdude and how once explained he thought the DL limit sounded crazy too. Send a poll into the site and ask what is thought of a 10 GB monthly limit, you might be surprised at the results.
Hey SD, I agree. One thing to check out sometime, all of their sites under the "Kink" company name, including fuckingmachines have all went up in price and all now have the 10 GB per month DL limit. As crazy as this sounds, it is possible for a person on telephone line internet to download 10 GB in a month! It has to be a move of greed. If I were them, I would package 2-3 of their sites together and maybe put a premium price on it, say $40 a month. If I was that desparate for money. I had joined fuckingmachines 4 times in the past 2 years, but now they have lost me on that site too with a 10 GB monthly DL limit.
Makes me appreciate some of these other sites a lot more too!
Yeah, I sent them 3 emails as business etiquette would say to stop after 3 without replies. Also notice the price difference. I am almost positive it used to be $21.95 per month, it is now $29.95. The newest Dragon Lily match is a total of 600 MB, at that rate, I would only get 15 matches before hitting the DL limit. I had to go back and check the DL limit because I thought it was 10 GB per day, but this is 10 GB per month. If you break it down, you can only download half of a match per night for the 30 days. That just seemed unfair to me. I usually won't even complain about 1 GB per day limits, but 0.3 GB limit per day for $30 a month is crazy.
Last, maybe you thought it was a daily limit since you mention the downloading everything in a night part. Like with Mike in Brazil's site, it is 1 GB per day so everyone doesn't download all of the content in one night. I can understand that for a few reasons, including stress on servers. But I will be waiting for the Ultimate Surrender staff to explain how making someone download only 10 GB in 30 days is helping them, except for the reason I believe, to make the members have to stay an extra month or two to get all the content.
No offense taken at all. I believe the site has fell into new hands that are running it, seeing the price change and DL limit.
Nice review, I am a little late on reading some reviews. I haven't joined Ultimate Surrender, but have a thing for Dragon Lily and hear she is one of the major stars of the site. It isn't often that you get to see an Asian woman built like she is. I will definitely look into it. I could see the action turning the women on with so many women into the pain/domination genre. Thanks for the review.
I rarely have joined the teen solo sites. There were way too many of them that used the ol' "Sign up to see her naked!" lines in the fully dressed previews. Then when I got inside, they were naked, but had soap suds on their boobs, legs squeezed together. Kitana Jade/Cherie Roberts comes to mind. Not to mention, the months I kept waiting for Next Door Nikki to get naked. It's funny how the times have changed in porn in just a decade or so. I remember when the future stars of Euro porn did hardcore for their first 4-5 sets, then went to 5-6 years or more of nothing, but solo or lesbian.
From what I remember about Melissa's site it was pretty good. So it should be a safe join.
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