You know rearadmiral, I'll never understand sites like these. They snatch these new models up, put them on solo sites, seem to keep them on only the solo site and outside of chance and luck, very few of us will even know they exist. It reminds me of Raven Riley who I think could have been the biggest internet porn star of her era if someone would have thought to put her on maybe Twistys or any of the other big multi-model sites.
And I don't know what's happening to my mind when I notice nice, muscular thighs over every other part of the female anatomy. I do still have this site on my very short list of to join sites and thanks for the heads up on the join options. I will take advantage of joining through Melissa Pass.
Sorry about the delay messmer, might have been able to save your "go back to old site" link.
It seems VB has now pushed the old site's link off the VB3 page, but if you don't clear your cookies, it could still be there. I don't know if maybe they did it because of people joining through the old site. If you joined through the old site you could add Evil Angel and Vivid channels for $10 each, making a membership to VB, Evil Angel channel and Vivid channel equal $32. Now when you join through VB3, Evil Angel is $15, Vivid is $15, so it's $42 instead of $32 to get that combination. But I had no option to go back to the old site after running CCleaner. I'm at the point where I would rank Videosz a little higher than VB after they took away the old site.
There are serious issues going on at VB. I canceled my account this morning after getting "404 file not found" on nearly everything I clicked. Wouldn't have joined if I knew they had done away with the option to return to the old site.
On the duplicated content, the only place I ran into a lot of overlap was on the biggest known stars. Like Eva Angelina, Jenaveve Jolie, the ones with 100+ scenes. If you search more by the DVD series than individual models, the overlap isn't bad at all and as my comment below about Tainster shows, Tainster's webmaster said they have an exclusive deal with Videosz to have their DVDs of their exclusive content. I'm going to do a multi-month membership this time just because I don't feel like I saw maybe 1/10th of what all they have.
I will post this to Monahan as well. Videosz has started getting some exclusive content. Though the webmaster of Tainster, I think, thought I was putting them down, Videosz has picked up, according to him, 25% of their 3,000 once exclusive scenes on DVDs and those are nearly all public/voyeur scenes. I felt more overwhelmed on Videosz than Videobox, but it could have just been from being away from Videosz for so long. And I think I probably know the video site you're talking about, American Vice. There have been quite a few DVD sites I've liked over the years that either dropped way off or shutdown, like Vixeo. Seems like when they first came out they had a 50% exclusive rate on their DVDs, but their webmaster was an ass and he jumped the price up from $9.95 or $14.95 to $34.95. The other that comes to mind was DVD Box, which had several exclusive deals with exclusive paysites to distribute some of their content, but they are now just releasing the bargain bin type DVDs.
I've always kept VB in my rotation of sites I join, but skipped them this last time and gave VideosZ a try. I can't say you would have the same experience, but I actually was happier with VideosZ than my last time at Videobox. Since I was going out of town, I canceled the VideosZ account early, but am now going right back and rejoining. Biggest difference I found was VideosZ has some content that I had thought was wholly exclusive to the sites they came from. Tainster, formerly Erromax, Orgymax, has around 200 DVDs on VideosZ of their sites Party Hardcore, Mad Sex Party and Drunk Sex Orgy. And it's not to take away from Videobox, if anything I will pair the two together from now on.
I too like some older porn, just not too old, but the 90s, especially late 90s that Vivid did so well. The channel is worth the price easily. I would even say the Vivid channel on VB is as good or better than the Vivid website. Also note that the price of it should be prorated. I think it's $15 if you add it on the first day of your VB membership, but if you wait until say the 15th day of your membership to VB to add Vivid, it should only be $7.50.
When you say an entire film do you mean an entire scene or entire DVD? I have complained about them not having a full DVD download link, but I don't think they ever will. Sadly, there was a DVD site, American Vice, that did allow full DVD downloads, but they disappeared a year or so ago.
I have been having the same problem messmer. I mainly use VB2 and it's not even showing up part of the time. Also having to download 5-6 files at one time to get a decent download speed.
I'm not trying to sway you away from the RK channel, but it's very limited compared to the RK site. Using the TBP price, there isn't that much difference in the RK channel and the actual site. I know there has been some talk about RK's download limits, but believe me when I say they are not that bad. I have photos on imageshack of folders I downloaded a few months ago from RK. I did 5 days in a row, averaging 64 GB a day and didn't hit a limit once. I don't know if the limit is now on HD but I don't download their HD clips since they are long anyway, 30-45 minutes. A few years back, RK was pretty strict on DL limits, but they really have loosened up on them.
I have been intrigued by the Kink channel too. Though I don't really go for the harder content, I have always liked Ultimate Surrender, Public Disgrace and Fucking Machines. Plus I like anything with Dragon Lily in it and it seems like she is on several of their sites I haven't been on. Glad you mentioned that about prorating the price. I didn't know they did that. I may have to give the Kink channel a one week try the next time I join VB.
Going back to this, now that my membership is over, I am glad I took the Vivid/Evil Angel add-ons and felt the content released on them was better, over the month, than the content released on VB. Though I didn't try it out, when I went to cancel, the way I read it, you can continue the Vivid/Evil Angel subscriptions for $17.95 for both and cancel VB.
Makes sense, though I didn't know Teen Models and Super Glam are owned by Silver Sinema.
After reading this, I looked back at the one video titled Super Glam Vol 1 and the first scene of it is on Teen Models. It's Black Angelica and three other models playing on go-karts and it's in the main section of Teen Models on Black Angelica's page, not the bonus Silver Sinema on Teen Models. The other ones I noticed had Sandra Shine in them, believe the Legal Skin Euro Series, these scenes look like either copies of her content on Super Glam or from the same shoot, different angle. Which Sandra is kind of hard to tell since she has looked almost identical for the last 5-6 years.
That's interesting and ironic though about Teen Models and Super Glam being owned by the same company. I loved Teen Models frequent updates, but the very reason I stopped going to Super Glam was their sporadic updates.
I like the extra channels, but I'm a huge fan of older Vivid DVDs back when April Flowers and Raylene were in their primes. It is a blend, mostly newer content, especially on Evil Angel. They throw some 90s/early 2000s Vivid in though. You get 3-4 Evil Angel per week, think the total available right now is around 330 DVDs from Evil Angel and you get 3-4 Vivid per week, usually every other day and Vivid has right around 300 full DVDs on there as of right now. I think if you've never joined the channels then it's worth the money especially since they've now combined the two channels into one price. It used to be Videobox $14.95, Vivid $17.95, Evil Angel $17.95, now it's just Videobox $14.95 + Vivid and Evil Angel $17.95.
Thanks Khan, it looks like they're sticking to the $17.95 price. That site paysite discount also had the $14.95 price and it doesn't work there either.
Read your newest comment about them allowing the deal to existing members. I think it's a good deal, but would have been a great deal if they kept the TBP price and only charged $14.95 for VB DVD and $14.95 for both premium channels. I haven't tried the Evil Angel premium channel yet, but have the Vivid one twice and really liked it, so I'll be joining in the next week to try both premiums out. I haven't ever had much success with VB's customer service. I sent them a message months ago to tell them the "warning" age box was not showing up right on my browser, so I couldn't even get in the site without using a different browser, never heard back from them, but the problem has been fixed.
That is odd, it isn't coming up for me either. I'm getting the "problem loading page" message. Last time I was member, back in February, they had a couple of days of scheduled maint. Seems like it took about an hour.
I've become even happier with the Vivid premium channel as the membership goes on. I'm finding models I had forgotten about like Melissa Hill. The way I'm looking at it is I might join it once a year, maybe twice if an update stands out to me. So far, I've downloaded 27 GB from the Vivid channel, only 7 GB from Videobox, so it has been a good value for me. A lot of those 90s clips are in better quality here than I've ever seen them with standard DVD 640-720 high end resolution and bitrates in the 5000 range. A few still look a little dated, poor lighting/color, but I don't guess they can fix that since it is that way in the originals. Overall though, I expect to have around 50 GB just from the Vivid channel. You also don't see as much of the current nonsense in the hardcore clips, not much slapping, no spitting and probably less than half of the hardcore scenes end with facials. I'm not a fan of facials, so that was a plus too.
I've had technical issues with VB as well. One thing you can try if you are streaming videos is to clear your cookies out. I would recommend CCleaner's software for that. I think they have had other problems with streaming as well. Doesn't seem like they've had that option for that long.
As far as the emails, I've been there with VB as well. I've sent probably 6-7 over the years and never received an answer to any of them. My guess is they have gotten too big for their own good. Not enough staff to give good customer support. I still rate the site high though. My problem comes when downloading videos, I will maybe 1 out of 10 videos that I try to download, get a screen that says something happened to the server and the system is notifying a backup server, "Try again later". Good luck with getting an answer, though you never know, posting here could bring an answer since the VB webmaster (Jeepster) has been active here at times.
The main thing I will say is if you find the models unattractive that VB has, you most likely shouldn't be planning on joining many other sites. They have one of the biggest collections of TOP models on the internet. Hard to possibly believe that you are that disappointed in the models' looks.
Also not for sure what you mean by the technical quality. If you download the DVD versions of their movies, the minimum resolution is 640x480 (standard view) or 720x480 (widescreen) with bitrates that vary between 3,500-7,000 kb/s. The industry standard for DVD resolution is 640-720x480 with bitrates between 3,000-10,000.
Either way, you mention that thagnut didn't put up an intelligent debate, you didn't put up anything to debate! Just a few mass generalizations to justify a 70 score with no examples. That is the main reason you're getting this much flak. If you truly believe it is a 70 and gave some really good points, even if just your opinion, I doubt you would have had as many negative replies.
I ran into that same page last month and thought the prices had gone up, and just now checked and my prices were listed as the ones you are seeing too, but ran CCleaner and it went back to the regular prices of:
I had this same exact problem last week. You need to clear your cookies out, ccleaner is good for doing that. Once you do that the $14.95 TBP special will be back available to you.
I hear you Khan, I like to think I understand computers pretty good, but I like to think I understand women pretty good too!
That will be fine to remove the comment, and I would appreciate it. I am glad to see the discount price, VB has been one of my most joined sites over the years for the great value. It was their discount and the discount to Eve Angel's site (when it was running strong) that had me coming to TBP before PU was started.
Hey Khan, I ran CCleaner and was still seeing a completely different page that had much higher prices. I reset my connection to the cable modem, went back and now I am seeing the special price of $14.95, I really don't know what caused the other page with the higher prices to show up. Should I just edit the comment or can you remove it? Whichever would be easier for you all.
But I am seeing the special price again and do apologize for the error on my part.
Just type the amount in and what you want to convert it to. The dollar had been picking up steam, I was about to post a comment last week about the European sites that said they raised their prices because the dollar value was falling, but the dollar took another fall this week.
I use Free Download Manager,looks like they would have gotten a more definitive name since it just sounds like someone is saying a free download manager!
You can get it below. It has an option in it to scan for viruses. I've used it off and on for probably 3-4 years now, and have never had any signs of viruses from it. The company that owns it is a pretty reputable one. It doesn't even have ads on it like most download managers do.
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