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| 01-26-09 03:51pm - 5771 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Where is the porn recession? OK, basically I'm trying to figure out why there aren't more porn deals out there in this crappy economic doldrum. Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 11:28am | |
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| 01-26-09 04:06pm - 5771 days | #2 | |
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Jeffrey99 (0)
Active User  Posts: 106 Registered: Nov 04, '08 Location: Good Ole Midwest USA |
I guess my question is, just how much are they actually making off the sites? I'm guessing they are making enough money, that if you reduce their members by 25% that they will still come out on top. When they actually start to lose on their bottom dollar, then I think you might start seeing some deals. | |
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| 01-26-09 05:32pm - 5771 days | #3 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
It seems they are doing the opposite and raising the prices. Not long ago the normal price for a membership was about $20 and not $30 is an everyday thing. Basically what is happening is they are seeing a 20% drop in volume so they raise they raise the price accordingly. It would be nice to see prices drop but I do not see it happening. Raising is a possibility. Fortunately I do not believe it will ever go away though. Thee will always be porn being made. After all, food, drugs, and sex are the three things guaranteed to be in demand at all times. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 01-26-09 06:49pm - 5771 days | #4 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Our food prices have been going through the roof which would support your argument. Also wasn't there someone in this group who said jokingly if it comes to choose between food and porn, he'll pick porn? :-) Maybe the producers of porn know that! I too was hoping to see reductions and special deals .. ah, well, one can always dream! | |
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| 01-26-09 07:06pm - 5771 days | #5 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
That is a valid point wittyguy, because like you I've been hearing about the porn recession for the last 1-2 years. I think one of the reasons why we haven't seen anything being done is because frankly the people involved in the porn industry don't give a damn about any of us. If they truly cared about our opinion then most of us would not be writing or complaining about most of the shit happening in porn today. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-27-09 12:33pm - 5770 days | #6 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I don't know about someone choosing porn over food - but I think I'd made the comment somewhere on here that I'd have to take food over porn. I seriously doubt I'm alone on that. With the world economy as it is, I'm sure plenty of people are choosing their priorities more carefully. Around here, even the bars are getting less crowded - and that's usually one of the first things people do when times are bad - drink! So I can easily imagine that the porn industry has taken it's share of a drop in revenue. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 01-27-09 06:09pm - 5770 days | #7 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
There was an article on MSNBC.com the other day about the porn recession, which is real and the business overall is down more than 10%. One of the funny quotes was by Steve Hirsch of Vivid talking about how they're better off than most because they are known for such high quality - I practically spit. Yeah, right. Vivid is known for high quality. Vivid is known for having a lot of hot exclusive contract girls that they waste in a despicable manner making crappy cookie-cutter porn. They're doing well because they are piped into every hotel room in the country so bored travellers will buy their crap. | |
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| 01-27-09 07:00pm - 5770 days | #8 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I think that everything you said about Vivid is so true. If it weren't for the cable rights. I don't think Vivid would be where they are today. I can't completely crap on Vivid because they have produced some good stuff over the years. I just wish that they would better use their talent. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-27-09 07:04pm - 5770 days | #9 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
The effects of the fleecing of the world by politicians of all ilks has yet to be felt yet. It will. | |
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| 01-28-09 01:19am - 5769 days | #10 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
"Vivid." "Tepid" is more like it, and that's on a good day. So as does pat362, I agree. I joined the Vivid site one time -- the last. But still, they are a recogizable brand and the MSNBC interview was free publicity. Porn is an escape and per unit I think it's cheaper than booze, to say nothing of the harder stuff. And it's reusable. Though if you join a Vivid site, it'll be reusable only as long as you stay a member. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 01-28-09 10:39am - 5769 days | #11 | |
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MrReds (0)
Active User  Posts: 1 Registered: Jan 28, '09 Location: California |
Porn recession is hard to hear. I would think that more people would be joining sites due to the increase in everyday living. I just read that lettuce and melons will be almost double in price in California this spring and summer. Thousands of acres of farm lands have been unplanted and left for next year. The US will be importing more produce from outside countries in the next few months. Gas prices are going back up. So if you price it out going out on the town one night is about $75 to $200 on the low side. That included dinner, gas, the club fee and maybe a dace or two. You could spend the same every week for the 6 months and have one hell of a porn collection with toys for your partners. But does everyone have that much to spend. Big companies are closing everyday and more and more people are without jobs. The porn world will always make money. When the end of the world hits (if ever) it will be roaches, Twinkies and porn. Most companies have thousands of videos that have never seen the light of day. They can simply edit then with some old stuff and BAM you got a new $50 DVD. Porn will always make money. Porn dictates what medium is the best. They did it for VHS and now with Blue Ray. Porn has more power in many cased then the big Hollywood studios. There sales may be down but they are still making a ton of money. Owner Mrrreds.com Like to Have fun at home and on the road. Swimming Pools to BBQ's | |
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| 01-28-09 12:59pm - 5769 days | #12 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 11:28am | |
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| 01-28-09 02:08pm - 5769 days | #13 | |
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AltPorn Network (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 1 Registered: Jan 28, '09 Location: Thrilladelphia |
Well, to smaller sites, porn isn't cheap to produce because alot of bigger sites set the standard rates and have more money to spend. All of the content at my site is exclusive , I create it all from casting to editing and uploading it to the net. I personally charge more for my site, because alot of times models are affiliates, and half the sale goes to them..or the promoter, blog owner, review site..Even as a small site owner, I am not offering more for less, in porn i dont think there will be an increase in deals because everyone already gives away so much. I was offering a 9.99 3 day trial and it ended up really working against me. After a month of that it was impossible to do any longer. I do offer that as an incentive at our social networking style online magazine if you join free. Between the billing company,paying out models and the cost of your studio /equipment I dont think that 9.99 for everything youve invested in is a good idea at all, for anyone, and especially me. I dont create middle of the road content, I dont sell the content and I have to split it with someone most of te time. I think that a major reason why this country is in a recession is because of the pirating of entertainment items like dvd's and movies and music. Americas has always thrived due to the talent that comes from Hollywood, or various other places. There has always been money in that. The lack of respect for how many talented people it takes to make anything at all, is kind of baffling to me personally. I'm not saying that wanting to get a deal is disrespectful, i mean more along the lines of people that pirate it all and ultimately screw everyone over. I think its having a major impact on entertainment itself , regardless of if its porn or more mainstream entertainment. Its costing a lot of jobs and money and the prices stay high because they arent able to lower them because so many people are stealing it anyway. Its a vicious cycyle. I've been watching it happen since napster and all of that. Its just much worse now. LZR!BNNY | |
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| 01-28-09 02:56pm - 5769 days | #14 | |
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picdude (0)
Active User Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 26, '08 Location: Italy |
What UTTER bull. I am truly lost for words you obviously think a lot of the entertainment industry. Words fail me. (No offence mate but you are wrong in soo many ways) (Oh and I must say I really like the look of your website... I might sign up sometime) Edited on Jan 28, 2009, 02:59pm | |
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| 01-28-09 03:50pm - 5769 days | #15 | |
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williamj (0)
Active User Posts: 102 Registered: Sep 29, '07 Location: usa |
I got a $19.95 to ALS for life offer from ALS last week. I joined thought it was a good offer. I stopped into an Adult Book Store I use to rent from for years. The manager and I got to be friends and he said right out to me, "Hey you must be joining Internet sites with monthly memberships?" We chatted for a ½ hour and he said business has been off but these last 4-5 months he said business is way off. He's been working the counter sense the late 80's and said he hasn't seen it this slow. He said that the Internet is taking a lot of old customers and potential newbies too. I asked him if he thought the Adult Book Store will survive and he said it will never be like it was. He thought the future of the highway Adult Book Store might be on its last run. I agree. Buying patterns and distribution channels change with the times and technology. Are there still Adult Movie Theaters in downtown cities? Will Edited on Jan 28, 2009, 03:58pm (williamj: grammer and wanted to add something) | |
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| 01-28-09 04:18pm - 5769 days | #16 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 11:28am | |
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| 01-29-09 06:15pm - 5768 days | #17 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I hadn't even heard of "Vivid" until TMN started to show their movies on late night cable. What a bunch of utter, monotonous, over-acted garbage, showing the same porn actors over and over again. After having sampled a few of their videos I now click my way past the channel as quickly as possible. | |
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| 01-29-09 06:48pm - 5768 days | #18 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
If I'm not wrong. They have been in business for 25yrs. I agree that they have a large section of their library that appeals more to the softcore market. This makes them ideal for cable or late night TV. In large part because many of their movies have an actual story. Even if you cut out the hardcore section. You aren't left with 10 minutes of footage. I can't think of a single gonzo movie that we can say the same thing. I have been aware of Vivid for many years and they did produce some amzing stuff. Finding it is very hard because they love to release comps upon comps until you don't know if you have all the scens in it from aprior purchase. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 02-19-09 01:41pm - 5747 days | #19 | |
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wiild1 (0)
Unverified User Posts: 52 Registered: Apr 14, '07 Location: UK |
Agree, BS! The music and mainstream movie industry has lost a lot of money due to piracy as they haven't kept up with technology and provided the service/quality that consumers would be willing to pay for. Keep innovating technology and distribution, keep increasing quality and service, keep providing unique content and I will be happy to pay big money....and you can make profit. | |
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| 02-28-09 05:45pm - 5738 days | #20 | |
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ControllingMind (0)
Suspended  Posts: 52 Registered: Jan 29, '09 Location: Inside An Unseen Force |
Porn Sites seem to use the excuse of high prices and download limits etc because of hackers and filesharing. Its the loyal paying members who are the ones to get punished. What they should be doing is reducing prices and taking away limits, then their member numbers will increase. Everything has a price and if it gets more expensive and difficult for paying members, it will alienate more of them to join the darkside. | |
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| 08-19-09 11:03pm - 5566 days | #21 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 11:29am | |
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| 08-20-09 08:37am - 5565 days | #22 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I'm wondering if you found this article by accident, or if you did a Google search, and if a Google search, what was your search string? Just curious about how you found the information about the porn industry current conditions. I wrote in a few replies/comments at PU that I thought the porn industry was being hit by the recession, and that was why some of the porn sites were not updating as frequently or have stopped updating altogether. But my saying that was a guess, based on the idea that the recession was still here, and that the porn industry was probably being hurt along with regular businesses. I guess I'm just asking how to use Google more intelligently to find what I want to know: in this particular case, about the health and practices of the porn industry. I understand that a business person's attitude can be important, as far as looking at a lemon (the recession) in one of two main ways: a sour fruit, or a chance to make lemonade. But the truth is that a large amount of porn is being made outside of the US, and that's reality. The US is not necessarily the guiding light for the rest of the world, as it was in the days after World War 2, for so long. There are other bright spots that also provide intelligence and illumination in the porn world, such as Eastern Europe and Japan. The US is a mass importer. It's part of the world economy. We're not dead yet, but we are no longer the world superpower in economic strength that we used to be. I don't really care that much if the porn I watch is made in Russia, Japan, or Europe or elsewhere, as long as it's good. US porn is easier for me to understand, because the models probably speak English, but for most porn, you can turn off the sound, and you won't really be missing much of value. | |
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| 08-20-09 09:14am - 5565 days | #23 | |
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asmith12 (0)
Active User Posts: 79 Registered: Oct 17, '07 |
Wittyguy: Where is the porn recession? asmith12: Here it is: https://www.pornusers.com/review/teachmyass/ , today's comment "why no updates?". You want better pricing for porn? Not going to happen, especially as you can already get "mainstream porn" FOR FREE. What is going to happen is more and more sites essentially going down (staying online, but without updates); I just hope that it will hit ONLY mainstream sites, and that it will NOT hit really innovative and original guys (you probably know at least one company which I mean but I won't mention them here to avoid further accusations of being affiliated with them). Motto: "All niches except for boring one!" | |
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| 08-20-09 09:48am - 5565 days | #24 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended  Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Wittyguy, your overwhelming knowledge and sharp opinions blow me away! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 08-20-09 12:34pm - 5565 days | #25 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Great post Wittyguy! I agree that those in the industry will either adapt or die, but I don't think "the U.S. will just become another importer of mass produced porn" -- too much U.S. government regulation to make this a practical, or even legal, reality. I can just imagine the uproar, with headlines like "Your neighbors sending dollars overseas to fund illegal pornographic material." Of course there are plenty in the business that have found ways to get around the system and still make a buck, so I think overseas companies would figure out how to sell to the U.S. if they could beat U.S. companies with cheaper porn. More likely I see them importing cheap talent -- such as they already do with girls from Eastern Europe -- and paying them less than Americans who are just as attractive and open-minded, but not as cheap. This would probably cause an uproar over 'immigrant porn labor' or something like that. The recession sucks, and there does not seem to be anyone who is untouched by it (except for maybe the ruling class, but that's a topic best left for a different thread), and I hope porn survives largely intact. There are definitely some sites that I wouldn't mind seeing disappear and to never be heard from again, but I, and many others here I suspect, have been spoiled by the freedom of choice and relative affordability of porn and we wouldn't want to see it thin out too much. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 08-20-09 01:31pm - 5565 days | #26 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 08-21-09 07:50pm - 5564 days | #27 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I also read that article but the first thing that came to my mind is why are they interviewing Savannah Stern. Although not a bottom of the barrel pornstar. Not exactly one that's at the top either. I looked at her IAFD page and she appeared in 161 movies in 4 yrs but some of those are movies are material taken from websites she has appeared in. A dozen are BJ only scenes and a few are masturbation only scenes. Add that at some point she got some serious bolt on's and then you don't wonder as much why she might have a hard time finding jobs. She claims that she made 150,000 last year but she's trading in her Mercedes to drive a trailblazer her parents gave her. I only made 115,000 less than she did and I don't need my parents to give me a car. I suspect that what ails Savannah is the same thing that ails the porn industry. No one looked at what was wrong because the money coming in was always more than what was being spent. Too many studios have been making porn that has been below par for years. They stopped listening to fans and decided that they would do what they wanted and as long as some bought their crap then that was fine. We've told performers that we prefer natural but they keep getting the fake stuff. It's their body, but our money. They always told us that if we didn't like it then don't watch it. Well guess what. We don't like it and we stopped watching. It's too easy for studios to blame all the free sites. That's easier than looking in a mirror and saying WE are responsible for the mess we are in. Until they do that, then more are going to disapear. The fact is that there are only so many people spending money on porn. If you cut a pie in 10 pieces that everyone gets a taste but no onew gets anything when it's cut in a 1000 pieces. The porn industry isn't the only one facing this problem. Anyone hear of Ford, GM, Chrysler? They suffer from the same disease. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-22-09 06:23am - 5563 days | #28 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Just a small input about this item in general: I keep getting more and more mails with offers from sites I once joined - and those offers are coming in at still lower prices. Guess most PUs have experienced the same.... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 08-22-09 07:58am - 5563 days | #29 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Strange because the only offer I received is the one from DDF productions. On the surface it appears to be a great offer but after visiting a couple of the sites. I notice that most are not really updating anymore. This becomes a great offer only for newbies or those that only joined one or two of their sites. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-22-09 08:13am - 5563 days | #30 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Well, I got offers from MetArt, Babes-tv, mypreciousvirgins.com, stuffedpetite.com, Expliciteart.com, Only Tease and a lot others... BUT, you're rigt about the deal with newbies.....a lot of wellknown/major site are merely/foremost attractive to new users....the updates are getting worse - in general. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Aug 22, 2009, 08:16am | |
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| 08-22-09 09:03am - 5563 days | #31 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Denner, I want you to put me on your duplicate mailing list for the all low-cost porn offers you've been getting. The only low-cost porn offer I get (and that's all I've ever got, I think, except for the spam offers that I dump without looking at) is from one site that I joined, and I do take them up on the very low-cost renewal. But I sure would like a chance to see the low-cost offers you've been getting from MetArt, Babes-tv, mypreciousvirgins.com, stuffedpetite.com, Expliciteart.com, Only Tease and a lot of others. Some of those sites are definitely worth joining. | |
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| 08-22-09 10:00am - 5563 days | #32 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
lk2fireone - I simply do not know how to get those mails going/duplicate. Oh, maybe exept from this: webmaster@babes.tv... Announcement from babes.tv We are contacting you because you are a past member of one of our sites, babes.tv and we would like to give you a nice opportunity to become again a member with a reduced rate. You can now join any of our sites with a reduced membership price not available regularly, and the best is that your membership will remain at the reduced rate no matter how long you stay a member! Recently we added Babelcious.com to our 9 sites for 1 price deal, and we have also given Sexy-babes.tv a huge upgrade! Both these sites now offer: Advanced navigation for easy browsing Images up to 4000px and HD movies Extensive search options for models and content Voting and ranking features Check the tours for a members area preview, to see everything but with limited functions! The Delicious Pack: Join any one of the 9 sites listed below for only $9.95 (normally $29.95) and you will gain full access to each and every one of them! Your membership will only cost $9.95 no matter how many months you remain a member! Feel free to click the links and browse round each of the sites to see our huge free tours and to view everything you get for such a low price: Babelicious.com - Our newest and greatest site with HD videos & photo sizes up to 4000px - All with Zips! Sexy-Babes.TV - Only the hottest babes in the world! Photos and movies in every niche! Dream Babes.com - Beautiful babes in high quality photosets! Euro Babez.com - Only the finest babes from Europe! Hardcore photos and movies! Babes UK.com - Amateur action featuring only babes from the United Kingdom! Bikini Babes.TV - Softcore photos and movies of stunning bikini models in exotic locations! Babes On Film.com - Hardcore movies to download in every available niche! Cummin At Ya.com - Site dedicated to blow jobs and messy facial cumshots! Royal Boobs.com - Big boob movies to download. Natural and fake tits all included! The Mask Pack: Join any one of the 3 sites listed below for only $19.95 (normally $29.95) and you will gain full access to each and every one of them! Your membership will only cost $19.95 no matter how many months you remain a member! Feel free to click the links and browse round each of the sites to see our huge free tours and to view everything you get for such a low price: Be The Mask.com - World famous site offering YOU the chance to fuck a pornstar!! Wild On X.com - High quality movie downloads including solo, lesbian and hardcore! POV XXX.com - Hardcore movies to download featuring Point Of View style action! The Babes Pack: Join Babes.TV for only $19.95 (normally $29.95). Your membership will only cost $19.95 no matter how many months you remain a member! Babes.TV is our premier exclusive site filled with super high quality movies and photosets, click the link below to browse round our huge free tour! Babes.TV - Huge site of exclusive high quality pics and movies of well known pornstars and models! You have received this email because you have previously joined one of our sites. We thank you for your previous membership and hope you will enjoy this chance of joining our sites at a much lower price point. If you would no longer wish to receive email offers from us following this link.. ...which I just got Because of lack of space here - I'll try to duplicate others... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 08-22-09 10:05am - 5563 days | #33 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Also tried to "duplicate" the MetArt-offer, but did not work - but like many other sites, I'm sure the times of finansial crisis has hit broad - AND even porn-sites are feeling it. But anyway - a lot of the good deals I've received by mail are from sites I've joined even 2-3 or more years back - but of course a lot of site with newer membership, too. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 08-22-09 10:50am - 5563 days | #34 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Denner, thanks for posting your low-cost offers. None of the links lead to a low-cost offer, but it's interesting hearing that someone is getting these offers made available to them. | |
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| 08-22-09 02:02pm - 5563 days | #35 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
It's a late as hell reply, but I'd seriously like to know when the economy here in the U.S. became tied to things like DVDs. I thought our economic disaster was due to such insignificant things like selling our work to other countries, having a work force that's made up of roughly a third illegal aliens and expecting people to live on minimum wage jobs. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 08-22-09 05:50pm - 5563 days | #36 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Not to disagree with you but I think the US recession was caused by a very small minority of exceedingly greedy individulas who had no problem F..G their neighbor over to make an extra million. In 2008 there were 6.7 million Americans with a million dollar or more. That number was down from 9 million the previous year. Take a look at the ranking of countries based on the total of billionaires. There are 126 more billionaires in the US than there are in all 9 other countries. Can you tell me that all of these people made their money the honest way? Can you tell me that they all pay their taxes and they don't instead find every possible loop hole to keep as much of it to themselves. 1 United States 359 2 Germany 54 3 Russia 32 4 China 28 5 United Kingdom 25 6 India 24 7 Canada 20 8 Hong Kong 19 9 Japan 17 10 Saudi Arabia 14 Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-22-09 08:44pm - 5563 days | #37 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
:laughing: There's no disagreement here - I'm with ya all the way on that. Selling our work overseas, allowing illegals to work without paying taxes and simultaneously lowering the wages companies will pay is only a part of how the greedy got rich. I wasn't about to make a list of all the contributing factors - I'd break a record for the length of a post on here and I'd rather do that for something like a review. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 08-22-09 09:09pm - 5563 days | #38 | |||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I think you hit the nail, or the brainless porn star, right on the head. I think you should have used this in your later reply to RagingBuddhist:
Which you replied to with
"No one looked at what was wrong because the money coming in was always more than what was being spent" has been a huge problem for Americans their entire lives. It is a combination of being stupendously short sighted and ridiculously optimistic about what tomorrow can bring -- without ever acting as if it could be worse. Yes, RagingBuddhist is correct; exporting labor overseas, a reliance on illegal domestic labor, and low wages have all contributed to the problem; and yes, you are right in that the very rich are always scheming to get even richer -- it is sort of an unwritten rule of business -- but your earlier point of spend first, think later, has gotten a lot of us in trouble. From the many members here at PU, to the people in porn, all the way to the very top of our federal government, it can be very easy to get used to the good times and never prepare, or hell, even think, of the bad times. For example, people are currently bitching about Obama spending huge amounts of federal money, but every president before him, as surely as every president after him, has always done this because hey, they can only serve eight years, after that someone else will have to clean up the steaming pile of shit. Well, it is the same problem with the porn industry: why worry about a bad future -- be it recession, stricter laws, or just waning customers -- when the present is so damn profitable? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |||
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| 08-23-09 08:21pm - 5562 days | #39 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User  Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
The problem is, tube sites are not in violation of any U.S. laws, and as such many of them are hosted right here inside the states! It is not possible for porn companies to shut them down down. They get away with it because all the content is "user submitted", and webmasters are not responsible for user submitted content. Someone representing the studio can send a DMCA takedown notice, and the site will comply, remove the infringing video - then the site administrator will ip-block that studio rep, forcing him to move to a different location to check the site or keep bouncing through proxy servers, making it that much more difficult to continually go after them. | |
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| 08-24-09 11:39am - 5561 days | #40 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 08-24-09 03:24pm - 5561 days | #41 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 08-24-09 06:55pm - 5561 days | #42 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
The sad part about those websites is that some fool will send them money to take care of their pet or to buy one of their product. Wow now I can add this one to my list of things I hadn't seen yet. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-25-09 04:42pm - 5560 days | #44 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 08-25-09 08:43pm - 5560 days | #45 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I don't know about old memberships, but I'm betting badandy would like to trade in some old hard drives for new ones. He'll keep the porn of course, as any collector can tell you, a separation is nearly impossible. :) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-06-09 08:46am - 5548 days | #46 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I am starting to get offers of reduced rates for sites I used to be a member of, but they are only a couple of quid cheaper. They aren't trying hard enough for me. Oh & multiple site deals never appeal to me What I can't get my head around is if I am looking at subscribing to a softcore teen site, why would I be interested in bonus hardcore tranny/gay sites? Cap'n. :0/ Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-06-09 10:07am - 5548 days | #47 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
With multiple sites you will get that, Capn. I subscribed to a mature site because the odds of getting "hair" and sexy lingerie are greater when it comes to older women (if they are matched to a mature photographer) and got all kinds of teenie and glamour sites with it in all their bronzed, glistening and shaved glory ... just what I didn't want. I could see a network having a lot of success if all their sites stuck with the theme of the main site. | |
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| 09-06-09 10:22am - 5548 days | #48 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Yes, that policy would make more sense. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-06-09 02:56pm - 5548 days | #49 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I also would like to see networks with a focus. Too many times the sites have different themes, not many of which I have an interest in. | |
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| 09-06-09 08:49pm - 5548 days | #52 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
This is less about internet content as with DVDs, but since many sites now release their material on DVD then I have noticed quite a significant drop in actual new content. I'd even say that there are fewer studios producing new content. There are still many dvds being released each week but quite a few are in fact compilations or repackaging of older content. I would welcome studios releasing older conetent but most of what they a releasing is not old enough in my opinion. I'm still waiting for someone to release stuff made in the 80's. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 09-07-09 05:21am - 5547 days | #53 | |
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Pornbro (0)
Active User Posts: 10 Registered: Sep 03, '09 Location: Miami |
what are you interested in ? But thats the destination of network sites to cover up as many niches as possible because they want to get as many costumers as possible. Few minutes ago I finished my Machine-Sexslaves.com review. Same thing, people who are really into this kind of fetish maybe won't be as satisfied as straight-sex-preferring people. The stuff there is nice and the babes are good but it doesn't seem really honest-meant. 80s stuff was great, funny story and not that gonzo stuff like now. | |
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