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03-25-10  01:12pm - 5348 days Original Post - #1
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The Unwritten Rules of PornUsers

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03-25-10  01:25pm - 5348 days #2
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I agree with everything you said. We need a bit of perspective. Sit back, relax and take a big breath.

03-25-10  02:45pm - 5348 days #3
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I love this site.

I have my site up for review on here.

I have worked at it for 2 years. I have tried to put onto tape what I love to do.

I cant wait for you all to get to know me.

"50 videos, seems expensive" compared to what? mass produced shite.

everything I have done has been exclusive, shot by me. shot with 3 broadcast quality cams. All new costumes / outfits shot in my own English manor.

I do it because I want to. I am not paid to perform. I dont look bored because I am not. I gave up a good careeer to do this.

I dont want any favours but FFS give a little credit.

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03-25-10  03:53pm - 5348 days #4
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Great post Wittyguy. I agree wholeheartedly. For me one of the most inciteful comments about PU, came last year from BadAndy. It was concerning why the people here give each other respect and do not flame one another over disagreements. It's because we are all old enough and/or intelligent enough to have come to terms with the fact that we like porn. (Hope I havent misrepresented you there Andy).

It has been commented on before but I find this one of the most intelligent and enjoyable forums I have contributed to. I always looked in even when I was not contributing. This place will always be one of the first sites I visit even when I am not contributing. I understand Rick and Khan's position over the free stuff/freedom of speech thing that I was worried about. I am still in the free speech corner but understand their reasons and worries concerning free material. Basically, this place is too good, enjoyable, and valuable, for me to want it to fail. Therefore I should make occasional contributions.

03-25-10  04:01pm - 5348 days #5
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No offense, Miss H, but Wittyguy's second forum rule is pretty much understood by most members around here, at least among the members who are consumers;

Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


2. If you're a webmaster, grow some thick skin. Most everyone here is a porn consumer, not a producer. We would like more webmasters here but they often come across as being very defensive about their product and often seem like they view the PU forum as another way to advertise their wares. Face facts, someone here isn't going to like your product and if you get all defensive about it or lash out, you're just going to find yourself at the bottom of a pile of backlash. If you have something to contribute go ahead and say it, if it's just to push product then go somewhere else.


We do like having the webmasters here but you don't need to remind us of your site in every single post you make. We know you're a webmaster just by looking at your username so constantly defending/promoting your site makes us feel like your piling on.

Don't get angry about these comments, I'm just suggesting how PU'ers have come to expect others to behave in the forum. If you're disputing WG's second rule (the one I quoted above) then okay, I am just not sure if you are or not. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

03-25-10  04:14pm - 5348 days #6
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Wittyguy, if you tone down the PU Awards I will cry! Those are easily my favorite thing of the whole PU site, even more so than the discounts. I always felt honored when you made fun of me. So please feel free to flame me next time if it is what fits, I will laugh regardless.

Squirrel. I believe you got me right. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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03-25-10  04:30pm - 5348 days #7
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Great thread, Wittyguy. I agree that ControllingMind has a point that we come off as very cliquey and elitist to newbies but it's a double edged sword that's pretty much necessary to keep this place as it is; open and free for people to speak their minds within civil terms.

At PU you are pretty much open to express your love of, well, whatever floats your boat as long as it's not universally illegal and taboo, i.e. child porn, rape, murder (a real trifecta of romance for some I'm sure). If it's understood that you can speak about whatever than all we ask is you not bash other members in the process lest it becomes another collection of YouTube comments--"Fuck you, your video sucks!" "No, fuck you, your comment sucks!" "Fuck all of you, you're wasting my time!" and so forth...

My point is if you having the urge after reading someone's review, comment, reply, etc. to write "Hey listen, you prick, you're an idiot!" then you're best bet is to stop and think twice before insulting someone. PU's golden rule: be respectful. (I would have said "treat others as you wish to be treated," but that might not work to well when talking about porn.) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Mar 26, 2010, 10:10am

03-25-10  04:33pm - 5348 days #8
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So far as I am concerned, good natured banter or ribbing is OK.

This is a limited medium, as long as folk accept that there will be the occassional misunderstanding as a result of that, that is fine.
So it is always better to refrain from taking the piss until you 'know' the poster better.

I don't have any issue with Wittyguy's awards as any insults given are obviously tongue in cheek. I always find them well observed, well thought out, well crafted & amusing.

I have always rated this place as 'adult' both in subject & attitude.
It was both a surprise & a disappointment to see what is hopefully a 'blip' of flaming.

Whilst I love a good rant, both as Ranter & sometimes even Rantee ;0), serious flaming is only ever negative to all parties.

So far as I am concerned all constructive serious ( & trivial ) input is welcome from all parties.

Just leave all coshes at the door, please? ;0)

Cap'n. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award
Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award
( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/
Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder!
Edited on Mar 25, 2010, 04:43pm

03-25-10  06:53pm - 5348 days #9
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Great thread, Wittyguy. I agree that ControllingMind has a point that we come off as very cliquey and elitist to newbies but it's a double edged sword that's pretty much necessary to keep this place as it is; open and free for people to speak their minds within civil terms.

At PU you are pretty much open to express your love of, well, whatever floats your boat as long as it's not universally illegal and taboo, i.e. child porn, rape, murder (a real trifecta of romance for some I'm sure). If it's understand you can speak about whatever than all we ask is you not bash other members in the process lest it becomes another collection of YouTube comments--"Fuck you, your video sucks!" "No, fuck you, your comment sucks!" "Fuck all of you, you're wasting my time!" and so forth...

My point is if you having the urge after reading someone's review, comment, reply, etc. to write "Hey listen, you prick, you're an idiot!" then you're best bet is to stop and think twice before insulting someone. PU's golden rule: be respectful. (I would have said "treat others as you wish to be treated," but that might not work to well when talking about porn.)


My first home was the usenet and any long time participants in a given newsgroup were always accused of being elitist by newcomers simply because they had established a certain bond coming from long acquaintance and exchanges of ideas, and newbies tended to feel left out because this bond and some of the unwritten rules that develop along with it made them feel unwanted.

To any newcomers to PU and this forum I would say that we eagerly look forward to your contributions and that you can take my word for it that we are neither elitist nor a clique. Otherwise they wouldn't have me! :-)

In stark contrast to the usenet I found, to my delight, that the gang of porn lovers here in this forum are the most civilized and forgiving people I've come across so far on the Internet.

I've participated here almost from the very beginning and I have yet to see one of the flame wars and the name calling and viciousness that are so common in other places.

Strange isn't it; society would not exactly praise us for our pursuit and love of, what they consider to be, prurient material, while I have yet to see any of the hatred and venom in here that this same society expresses in connection with anyone who thinks or believes different from the herd. Maybe being looked down on as some sort of pervert creates a bond of brotherhood and makes you a bit more tolerant of others. :-)

P.S. Another thread I just looked in on makes a mockery of what I just wrote so take my glowing words with a grain of salt. I must get rid of those rose colored glasses. :-) Edited on Mar 25, 2010, 07:31pm

03-25-10  07:42pm - 5348 days #10
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


we value porn content over bling.


Speak for yourself, John Smith. If I had enough bling, I could afford all the porn sites I wanted. Lol.

03-25-10  07:53pm - 5348 days #11
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I guess some of us are a little more elitist then newer members but it's a natural progression since we have been here the longest. As long as we don't act as though our word is law and should be obeyed by all newcomers then I think it's all right. I don't know if we really jump the gun on new reviews. I may have missed some but those that usually get comments are those where information does not match the score given. I rarely will give a negative rating to the reviewer but I have done it once in the past. I usually will wait until there is a second review. I will gadly make a comment and see if the reviwer replies. Based on his or her reply than I will have more info on where I stand toward the reviwer.

Reviewing is not easy but all of us started in the same place. Many of you do amazing reviews and I envy your talent. I often steal from the best and feel no shame in doing so. I think new reviewers should do the same and if you don't want to read the FAQ page then at least look at some of the people that have done many reviews and try to emaulate them. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-26-10  10:05am - 5347 days #12
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I like the cut of your jib Wittyguy. Good post.
As with most newbies on most forums I leapt in without looking around first. A mistake that I will probably continue to make on any new forum that I come across! After a review, a couple of posts and comments from the incumbents, I hope I have managed to fit in a little better, and I will continue to learn.

03-26-10  03:21pm - 5347 days #13
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:

2. If you're a webmaster, grow some thick skin. Most everyone here is a porn consumer, not a producer. We would like more webmasters here but they often come across as being very defensive about their product and often seem like they view the PU forum as another way to advertise their wares. Face facts, someone here isn't going to like your product and if you get all defensive about it or lash out, you're just going to find yourself at the bottom of a pile of backlash. If you have something to contribute go ahead and say it, if it's just to push product then go somewhere else.


But there are many regulars who take their duties far too seriously around here, in my opinion. I read some of the reviews and comments and I'm in shock. Porn is to be enjoyed. I have to wonder if some here when joining a new site specifically look for something to piss them off, just to come back here and blow it way out of proportion!

These are pornographers. They don't have MBA degrees. They don't have PR staffs. They are not tech geeks.

Yet some regulars around here demand they be perfect. And I mean, I read the comments, and just want to shout out "Damn, take a step back and look at this! you are pissed off over what is a very trivial issue"

What is the purpose around here? So onlookers can read and see how pissed off everyone is at every website? Remember, onlookers are not just looking for site to site comparisons, they are also looking for reviews with the added alternative of tube sites, torrents, rapidshare, usenet, etc.

Whatever...

I give up, you guys can have your little club.

03-26-10  03:34pm - 5347 days #14
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I agree with most of Wittyguy's post. Though it is just as tiresome for the veterans to have to hear about how we think we know more. I've rarely brought up my points standings here, but have it thrown at me by the newer members every time I turn around, "You think because you're #1 points..."

While I would say it is up to us veterans to help newer members out; they can't come in with flames a blazing and expect anyone to say, "Oh they're new look over them". This isn't preschool where the younger kids deserve a pass for being brats. We have several consistent members who came in over the last year or so without a problem, GCode and James come to mind.

To me, where we get off track is when one or two members are just looking to pick meaningless debates or are being sarcastic little weenies. One of my recent comments on a site was asking if the leap year had shorted any other members of a membership's 30 days. One of the replies to it was, "A dollar fifty". Wasn't the first time this particular member threw something in that had no relevance and came off as a smartass.

Last, on the webmaster part, I occasionally email with a few webmasters who have said they stopped posting because of members' being rude to them or arguing for the sake of arguing. I think we as a whole can be ruder to them than we realize we are being. One had talked to me in an email about how he is a normal guy and is going through a divorce. Even included his phone number to call him if I was in his area to go out for a beer. Kind of made me look at the webmasters a little differently. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

03-26-10  04:30pm - 5347 days #15
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Originally Posted by justme:


But there are many regulars who take their duties far too seriously around here, in my opinion. I read some of the reviews and comments and I'm in shock. Porn is to be enjoyed. I have to wonder if some here when joining a new site specifically look for something to piss them off, just to come back here and blow it way out of proportion!

These are pornographers. They don't have MBA degrees. They don't have PR staffs. They are not tech geeks.

Yet some regulars around here demand they be perfect. And I mean, I read the comments, and just want to shout out "Damn, take a step back and look at this! you are pissed off over what is a very trivial issue"

What is the purpose around here? So onlookers can read and see how pissed off everyone is at every website? Remember, onlookers are not just looking for site to site comparisons, they are also looking for reviews with the added alternative of tube sites, torrents, rapidshare, usenet, etc.

Whatever...

I give up, you guys can have your little club.


Although I am not exactly a regular here, I can't disagree with you more. The moment they start charging money for their services is the moment I judge them with an entirely different set of rules. They are expecting me to part with a princely sum each month and in return I do expect to receive a quality product otherwise I will not subscribe again and jump on here to warn others to do the same. The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
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03-26-10  04:53pm - 5347 days #16
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What I don't get is the claim that people are blowing things out of proportion in reviews. Unless I haven't been reading close enough, the only time I've seen someone truly irate in a review is over a matter of someone playing with their credit card or some sort of deceptive practice. To me, that's justifiably pissed off and screaming for either reason. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

03-26-10  07:44pm - 5347 days #17
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Count me out of the "elitist" camp. I don't criticize newbies for giving higher or lower scores any more than I do towards anyone else. Most of the time when I see an excessive score, I don't say anything.

I also don't say to myself "newbie!" and go extra hard on someone when they post on the forum.

I can't say that I've seen a lot of criticism of newbies here, though I have seen some regarding scoring. But even if someone is rough in their choice of language when criticizing a newbie's score, that doesn't mean they're "elitist." It just means they're being rough.

And I've noted that sometimes newbies get a warm welcome from other members of the PU community, which is great.

Newbies themselves are a varied lot, and some of them aren't so sweet, either. There's a syndrome, if you will, with certain people that are "new" to a place, be it an online forum or a place of employment. They do a lot criticizing of the people who have established themselves and one of the chunks of mud that gets slung is this label "elitist."

But it doesn't surprise me that ControlllingMind happens to be the one who is playing this card. You might not recall, but that name, "ControlllingMind," was not that person's original moniker at PU. That person actually changed it after getting very weird and angry about a comment I had made a few months ago on the subject of "faith." I said something about faith being the product of a controlling mind. Then this person actually changed his/her moniker to "ControllingMind!" That's a very weird thing to do! And CR (for short) has gone on a personal hate campaign against me, which really blows my mind as I had no intention of malice in saying what I had said on the subject of faith.

So Wittyguy, what you see as an excellent point by this individual is something that I see in a very different light. I see CR as a small, angry, mean, and emotionally unstable person who needs a place to act out. PU is one such place.

But even if someone else, anyone else, had said that we more "experienced" PUer's are "elitist," I wouldn't have bought it anyway. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

03-26-10  09:51pm - 5347 days #18
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I agree with most of what was said.
However if we do not teach them how will they learn.

It may be pure arrogance, but I think that there is a
badge of honor for those whom spend time and get details
so we can get a mental picture and information.

I have to think that some times self site promotion or prize money may motivate those to give enough to get credit.
I think the fact PU rates our reviews as points towards a prize tells
us PU thinks the same, that being more info and accuracy as well
as new information equal a nicer point return.

So with that standard, newbie need to learn to adjust just like I did a few years ago too.

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03-27-10  10:18am - 5346 days #19
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Originally Posted by justme:


But there are many regulars who take their duties far too seriously around here, in my opinion. I read some of the reviews and comments and I'm in shock. Porn is to be enjoyed. I have to wonder if some here when joining a new site specifically look for something to piss them off, just to come back here and blow it way out of proportion!

These are pornographers. They don't have MBA degrees. They don't have PR staffs. They are not tech geeks.

Yet some regulars around here demand they be perfect. And I mean, I read the comments, and just want to shout out "Damn, take a step back and look at this! you are pissed off over what is a very trivial issue"

What is the purpose around here? So onlookers can read and see how pissed off everyone is at every website? Remember, onlookers are not just looking for site to site comparisons, they are also looking for reviews with the added alternative of tube sites, torrents, rapidshare, usenet, etc.

Whatever...

I give up, you guys can have your little club.


This is not the first time your remarks baffle me because you never give details in connection with your complaints about us. "Porn is to be enjoyed" ?? .. well, yes. We all think so, that's why the criticism if we don't enjoy certain aspects of a site or the whole site itself. And what exactly are "trivial" issues? DRM, Download Limits, grainy pictures and videos, oversized watermarks ... would you really gladly put up with these because the sites are only run by pornographers and not MBAs and because porn is supposed to be fun?

These are the negative facts about a site we keep mentioning and I, for one, am grateful that others who went before me give me a fair warning about some of the perceived shortcomings of a site .. if we're not on the same track I can always ignore someone's particular "negatives" and chalk it up to individual taste.

In any case, this forum is supposed to be fun and quite obviously it isn't for you so I don't blame you for moving on. Edited on Mar 27, 2010, 10:22am

03-27-10  11:31am - 5346 days #20
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Count me out of the "elitist" camp. I don't criticize newbies for giving higher or lower scores any more than I do towards anyone else. Most of the time when I see an excessive score, I don't say anything.

I also don't say to myself "newbie!" and go extra hard on someone when they post on the forum.

I can't say that I've seen a lot of criticism of newbies here, though I have seen some regarding scoring. But even if someone is rough in their choice of language when criticizing a newbie's score, that doesn't mean they're "elitist." It just means they're being rough.

And I've noted that sometimes newbies get a warm welcome from other members of the PU community, which is great.

Newbies themselves are a varied lot, and some of them aren't so sweet, either. There's a syndrome, if you will, with certain people that are "new" to a place, be it an online forum or a place of employment. They do a lot criticizing of the people who have established themselves and one of the chunks of mud that gets slung is this label "elitist."

But it doesn't surprise me that ControlllingMind happens to be the one who is playing this card. You might not recall, but that name, "ControlllingMind," was not that person's original moniker at PU. That person actually changed it after getting very weird and angry about a comment I had made a few months ago on the subject of "faith." I said something about faith being the product of a controlling mind. Then this person actually changed his/her moniker to "ControllingMind!" That's a very weird thing to do! And CR (for short) has gone on a personal hate campaign against me, which really blows my mind as I had no intention of malice in saying what I had said on the subject of faith.

So Wittyguy, what you see as an excellent point by this individual is something that I see in a very different light. I see CR as a small, angry, mean, and emotionally unstable person who needs a place to act out. PU is one such place.

But even if someone else, anyone else, had said that we more "experienced" PUer's are "elitist," I wouldn't have bought it anyway.


"The Times They Are A-Changin' ..."

Apparently also at PU - a lot of nonsense about "elitist".

Thanks to Drooler for this input (and want to add Cybertoads input, too).

And what is the deal with this claimed changing of user name regarding "ControlllingMind"

As Drooler has a lot better knowledge of the English language, than this user - I do not have much to add, except this:
There has been some - in my view - crazy inputs where RB has been under attack in a quite devious way...AND is this is the NEW style (among others) here at PU, this user do not have great expectations for the future here...

Hope this situation will pass.....I've had some fine years here - and would like to stay on...

AND BTW: It's ok that Wittyguy makes his own "Unwritten Rules of PornUsers" - but man, if all 9600 PUs made the same..........?? So let's just regard it as fun.... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Mar 27, 2010, 12:04pm

03-27-10  11:34am - 5346 days #21
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03-27-10  02:49pm - 5346 days #22
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Count me out of the "elitist" camp. I don't criticize newbies for giving higher or lower scores any more than I do towards anyone else. Most of the time when I see an excessive score, I don't say anything.

I also don't say to myself "newbie!" and go extra hard on someone when they post on the forum.

I can't say that I've seen a lot of criticism of newbies here, though I have seen some regarding scoring. But even if someone is rough in their choice of language when criticizing a newbie's score, that doesn't mean they're "elitist." It just means they're being rough.

And I've noted that sometimes newbies get a warm welcome from other members of the PU community, which is great.

Newbies themselves are a varied lot, and some of them aren't so sweet, either. There's a syndrome, if you will, with certain people that are "new" to a place, be it an online forum or a place of employment. They do a lot criticizing of the people who have established themselves and one of the chunks of mud that gets slung is this label "elitist."

But it doesn't surprise me that ControlllingMind happens to be the one who is playing this card. You might not recall, but that name, "ControlllingMind," was not that person's original moniker at PU. That person actually changed it after getting very weird and angry about a comment I had made a few months ago on the subject of "faith." I said something about faith being the product of a controlling mind. Then this person actually changed his/her moniker to "ControllingMind!" That's a very weird thing to do! And CR (for short) has gone on a personal hate campaign against me, which really blows my mind as I had no intention of malice in saying what I had said on the subject of faith.

So Wittyguy, what you see as an excellent point by this individual is something that I see in a very different light. I see CR as a small, angry, mean, and emotionally unstable person who needs a place to act out. PU is one such place.

But even if someone else, anyone else, had said that we more "experienced" PUer's are "elitist," I wouldn't have bought it anyway.


I used to use the name 'Lost Faith' the name was changed 5 months ago. I have not logged in for ages, before the other day.

I'll still stand by my elitist comments, maybe only up to about 10 people in the club. I did go about rubbing people up the wrong way coming straight out with it though.

There is some good points made in this thread, by OP and others. I do also agree with justme that some people here take porn too seriously. I also think some replies here prove my point.

Drooler I have no hate campain against you, my name was changed as a joke. Do you think I really want to be stuck with a stupid name like 'controlling mind'

I did not take offence at your religion comment because I am not religious! What you did do though is try to be clever and tell me how to post.
https://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=40745

You have also tried something similar to justme here
https://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=46566#46573
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Quoting your reply there
'Thanks for the counseling session, but I'm afraid that you've forgotten that not everyone sees things as you do. And though it pissed me off, the more important thing is that those who do care about pixel dimensions -- and some do, believe it or not -- will know if they read the comment.

And I'm a bit tired of your pointless crusade in which you are effectively telling other people that they are wrong for having priorities different from yours. Go find something else to do. Or as you might say, worth doing.'
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Do I also remember you and others getting prissy with williamj when he dared to question things on the forum sometime.

You seem to have a problem with everyone who disagrees with you.

I think you are an old man who sits at the computer all day, who's world revolves around porn, downloading it, watching it, talking about it. It seems it is mostly the teen looking girls which is up to you of course. I don't hate you nor should I pick judgement. But I do personally find that a little disturbing at your age to be honest. Some teen sites the girls look about 15. That is only my view though after having a daughter when I was a young age who is now starting to go out to clubs etc. I can just picture you being an old perv with a raincoat type person.

I'm sure some people on here have a porn addiction problem. Some comments on here almost come across like this - OMG some pics are a few pixels too small, shoot the webmaster. They have a watermark as well impale the webmaster.

Anyway you spat the insult dummy first, I was just responding, though I shoudn't have called you a cunt.

Sorry PU staff and PU'ers, didn't mean to start to fuck up your happy forum with arguments.

I'll be deleting my account after this post. So you can all start cheering. Not in the huff or hate PU or anything, I just don't want to be compelled into playing any more post reply tennis. No point in me coming back with another name either. This place will remain the same.

Roll on the glad he's gone, what a cunt he was etc comments. Call me what ever you like. I'll be dissapointed if I don't get any venom.

PU can get back to the glory cornfield days of everyone in agreement.

I am really not annoyed with anyone here. I'm happy as a pig in shit right now.

I hope your lives go well in the real world. Away from the internet.

03-27-10  03:10pm - 5346 days #23
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I agree with the "let's regard it as fun" comment - especially in the forum, things are going to get a bit free-wheeling, but so long as we're civil with each other, we ought to be able to handle that.

Reviews ought to be informative and use the guidelines = Pros, Cons, Bottom Line to give feedback on a site that others can get some benefit from. Other than that, we all benefit from a variety of stylistic approaches and viewpoints

Comments - they're comments - it's always nice to heard about new deals on established sites, it's always good to be informed about major changes in the way that sites are handling things - changes in their network set-up, rate of updates, etc, and to get a heads-up about especially exciting updates is a good thing as well as when a site has gone kaput.

Participation of webmasters - It doesn't seem to me that the members of this site been especially hard on webmasters. I think that there is a reality that this is a site for people that join sites and are being encouraged to give their opinions. Does that mean that webmasters of sites that are going in a downward direction quality-wise or update-wise are bad people? No, but they are probably not going to have a lot of fun here if they aren't comfortable with hearing about the reality of the users' experience with their site(s). And given that this site is for people that join sites and are being encouraged to give their honest opinions, I don't think that those opinions should be tempered in order to make webmasters more comfortable, though a "Thanks for posting - I hope your site improves" may be a reasonable gesture.

03-27-10  03:29pm - 5346 days #24
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What's been going on here reminds me of the chat rooms on WinMX. I've been talking to some of the people on there for 10 years now, but the rooms where we meet keep changing. It seems that the more people who meet in one place, especially over a greater period of time, the more there are disagreements and tension. Because of it, people have often seen me say that even the best of rooms eventually collapse under the weight of their own popularity. Just like the latest developments here, there are occasional charges of elitism, with the word "clique" being thrown around from the newer residents of the room. The flaming and arguments escalate. When the host gets too fed up with the bullshit, they just close it down and we move on to another room or open a new one. But - there are rooms that have been up for years because the people in them understand the subtleties of the room they're in and go along with, for lack of a better phrase,"just how it is". And that's what I think is called for here, because I don't see the PU management shutting this down anytime soon.

Here's a suggestion to anyone who feels that the so-called core group here is trying to keep newbies out of what they see as "the club". Become a part of it. Take the time to get a feel for the room and "just how it is" on here. We've had a lot of people here, all with different opinions on any number of issues, and things never got this crazy before. Coming in here and rocking a boat that's been sailing smoothly for a few years isn't doing anything positive for anybody. If you see something you don't like, tell us why you don't like it - without the flaming. Feel free to disagree, but keep it civil. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

03-27-10  06:24pm - 5346 days #25
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Originally Posted by Denner:


There has been some - in my view - crazy inputs where RB has been under attack in a quite devious way...AND is this is the NEW style (among others) here at PU, this user do not have great expectations for the future here...

Hope this situation will pass.....I've had some fine years here - and would like to stay on...


Denner, as long as you and the core members stick around there is no danger of the site going under or losing its heart. Rick and Khan are overseeing everything. Together the core people will keep the site on track.

You are absolutely right about those devious attacks. That is almost exactly how I see it. The main thing is, that the decent ones manage to stick together and keep everything on track.

03-27-10  06:34pm - 5346 days #26
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Honestly, I see the recent flaming issues only as a 'blip.'

The aura of the place is too well established now to let a minor abberation upset things.

Cap'n. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award
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( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/
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03-28-10  12:00am - 5345 days #27
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Goodness, where is all this crap coming from recently. I've been here for a year and have never had a bad argument. Every time I discuss something, many have disagreed with me but it has always been respectful. I dunno where all this is coming from. Anyways, I'm gonna stay out of all the drama, I have enough in real life and don't need anymore. But, I can say, this has always been the reason I stay here is everyone appeared to me respectful and intelligent while all being a bunch of freakin' perverts. My crowd....my crowd, lol. Ok, take care scumbags, lol :) Sexted From My iPad

03-28-10  06:59am - 5345 days #28
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Gcode,
You have done the impossible. I never thought being called a scumbag could be taken as a compliment. I am truly honored to be called one by you and to be lumped together with the other PU scumbags. (I hope you realize I am taking your word in the spirit you meant it and not being sarcastic).

03-28-10  07:13am - 5345 days #29
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We've had these problems before - problems of name calling and disrespectful inputs toward fellow PUs - obviously at a place like this some people with a bad karma and aggressions come and go...

But to all you ol' and new 'scumbags' (I liked that, GCode) - the decent folks STAY ON....hopefully because those people as mentioned above find that they got no fun here in the long run.... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

03-28-10  07:40am - 5345 days #30
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I suggest that we change the name from PU to An Elitist Clique of Scumbags (AECS).

03-28-10  07:42am - 5345 days #31
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I suggest that we change the name from PU to An Elitist Clique of Scumbags (AECS).


Hilarious!!!
(still laughing) "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

03-28-10  08:34pm - 5345 days #32
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x Edited on Apr 19, 2023, 01:29pm

03-29-10  04:58pm - 5344 days #33
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I am quite proud to be an elitist scumbag, so I hope I can join the club. If elite means a bunch of porn fans who put together intelligent, well written reviews, and posts, for no ulterior motive other than fun, then yes, PU is elitist. Most people cannot write or talk in an intelligent way. Most cannot argue without getting angry. I once got angry and called Cybertoad a lawyer, but he forgave me.

That was the way PU evolved. It could have evolved around 16 year old kids flaming one another every night with one line comebacks. PU just didn't evolve like that. But it keeps evolving and changing. You don't have to be old or intelligent to be a part. Everyone who joins and contributes without an ulterior motive I believe is made to feel welcome. Everyone new changes the character of the place a little, usually for the better. Maybe elitist just means not tolerant of poorly thought out reviews/posts, or deceptive reviews/posts. Any member who puts care and thought into their contributions helps add character and fun to the place, and I hope, is made to feel welcome

03-29-10  06:54pm - 5344 days #34
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I think the common thread that unites us all is that we might bitch from time to time about reviews, webmasters and so forth. The fact is that all of us believe that paying for porn is the way to go and beyond saying it. We actually do it. We may never change the face of free porn but we certainly try to dissuade people from going that route. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-30-10  05:55am - 5343 days #35
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Squirrel,
Calling someone a lawyer is a horrible insult. I am surprised that Cybertoad could forgive you. On the other hand, being called an elitist scumbag is a compliment that comes directly from the heart.

08-31-15  11:30am - 3363 days #36
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Another old thread that you may find interesting.

We have always been lively, but for the most part very polite and respectful.

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