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| 05-29-20 07:29am - 1625 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User  Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
Is 100 a legit score? On the Point system dead tread a thought occurred to me about reviewers who have a point ceiling lower than 100. I'm interested in hearing the community's thoughts on this topic. Below is a summation of that discussion Wraith0711 commented that he does not score any site over 95 regarless of how much he loves it: To me this reminds me of those teachers in school who would say: "no one can get a 100 because no one is perfect." If 95 is your best - well then that's a 100, why not compliment excellence when you find it? I agree when I see a new poster throwing down a 100 I keep scrolling. In my case, I've used a 100 two or three times out of the over 250 reviews I've completed. And I stand by those scores. I feel if a site has set a bar for itself and accomplishes that goal it should be rewarded with the 100. In my case, that's been for lelulove.com and finishesthejob.com. I think both sites set clear expectations for what they were selling and met or exceeded those expectations. I mean this post by way of discussion and acknowledge that it's a little off-topic. I interest in what others think and will post a separate thread if anyone wants to have a respectful, open-minded discussion (I'm willing to change my mind on this topic) | |
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| 05-29-20 07:47am - 1625 days | #2 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I don't think I've ever scored a site at 100 but if I have it would have been a while ago and I don't think I would do that now. The reason for that is that, in my opinion, to score a site at 100 you'd need to have an element of subjectivity in there. I actively try to make my reviews as objective as possible. If I'm reviewing a site that I really, really like I'll state that in the review but I'll aim to make the review as objective as possible and score it that way too. So, if I were to say that a site deserves a score of 100 that's me saying that from a technical perspective that site is perfect. The site layout is perfect. The tags and search function are perfect. The scenes are perfectly shot and edited. The site bills through the most reputable biller. I can't see a site being technically perfect in every way but it is certainly possible. The reason I now try to strip subjectivity out of my reviews is because we all have different interests and if I skew a score just because a site fits that interest then others who don't share the same interest might get the wrong idea. As a theoretical example, I think I could review a technically great site that has porn that I don't like and score it high objectively. I think I could review a site that featured obese old gay men having sex and write a review that scored it high if it was technically sound. As a real world example, I recently re-reviewed 18 Eighteen and scored it at 80. If I had built in my subjective feelings about the site I'd have scored it probably around 95. I love the porn they make but the site is kind of crappy. But... having said all of this I accept that some reviewers, even some long-standing members who I trust, may score a site at 100. I'm fine with that as long as there is enough information to justify it. And maybe even further, since 100 should be a rare score the reviewer should state very clearly why he or she has given that score. I'll also add that your justification for a 100 score, namely that the site set clear expectations for subscribers and then exceeded those expectations is a solid reason for giving a perfect score. As a long-time porn buyer I recognize that's really rare and I'm all for rewarding that. This is an interesting topic. I hope many others, old and new, weigh in. | |
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| 05-29-20 08:17am - 1625 days | #3 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
I think 100 can be a legit score. And RearAdmiral makes a point that has stopped me from giving a 100. I know if I give 100 it will be just because it's a site I think is as close to perfect as possible. It wouldn't or might not be for others. I can even give an example and I would feel obliged to explain it if I did give it a 100. FTV Girls: If I was going to go 100 it would be FTV. If Zishy starts working a little more nudity in, Zishy would be close to 100 too. But on FTV Girls, I have had a minimum subscription to FTV for 9 months out of each of the last 5 years. That's my reasoning for 100. Most sites that I really like, I join once or twice per year. FTV just has something that I never get bored with and if I don't have an active membership with them, I'm on their site once a week to see the new models. One that I nearly scored a 100 after having a membership for 5 months is Japan HDV. The first month, I didn't even realize it had other sites with it. The other sites, while not quite as good as Japan HDV itself, are all very good sites. One that I think could score a 100 if the right person was reviewing it is zenra.net. It's a Japanese DVD site that not only has subtitles but also offers exclusive DVDs (very rare in Japanese porn) but their business model would stop me from going 100. I don't know how many members have looked at it. The standard membership is $39.95 per month. It has a 25GB daily download limit. You also do not get downloading access to their exclusive videos. You can only stream them. They also count the streaming towards your daily download limit. To get access to download their exclusive videos (the best ones), you have to either stay a recurring member for 3 months at $39.95 per month or you have to join for 3 months for $99.95. Even then, the downloading access to their exclusive videos isn't automatically granted. You have to send them an email and ask for VIP access. You still also have a 25GB daily download limit. Some of the exclusive DVDs are so unique and weird you'll never see another like it but that pricing plan and download limit is hard to look over. Last two, I think DDF Network before they screwed it up was very close to 100. That is a legitimate network with more than 10 sites that are still updating and all 10+ sites were once $30 each. The other is Kink's Network. I had spent hundreds, maybe thousands even on 4-5 or their sites before they became a network. To get them all in one package could be a 100 for me. The thing you see there is I'm factoring value in. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 05-29-20 08:29am - 1625 days | #4 | |
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Homegirl (0)
Suspended Posts: 45 Registered: Mar 21, '20 Location: new york |
I could see a score of 100 if the following are true: 1) You have written a lot of reviews so you have some credibility. The top posters qualify. First time reviewers do not. 2) The site has no cons that mean much. An insignificant con could be trivial. 3) A site is the best of its type or niche. 4) You have been a member at least twice. Sometimes your feelings about the content are not what you feel when you first join. So yes Exotics I could believe you if you feel a site is worth 100. Female and proud | |
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| 05-29-20 09:08am - 1625 days | #5 | |
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LKLK (0)
Active User Posts: 1,583 Registered: Jun 26, '19 Location: CA |
I don't think I've ever given a site a score of 100. Even when I love a site, I usually give a maximum of 90+. That's because I've read many times at the PU site, from different PU members, that no site deserves a 100. So basically I went along with the group thinking. Hoping to escape criticism that my review was biased, or that I was a shill, or that my review was obviously flawed because I couldn't think straight. Having said that, as I get older, I begin to think, maybe they were right after all. How many sites are perfect? Or is perfection only allowed after you die and ascend to heaven? This is a discussion that needs the input of our spiritual leaders, such as Tom D Admin. Tom D, will you give us some input? | |
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| 05-29-20 10:39am - 1625 days | #6 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Yeah, I think I agree with this. FTV is a site that could deserve the coveted 100 score. It's an amazing site. It does everything well. I'm not into solo and masturbation sites but I subscribe here regularly anyway. | |
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| 05-29-20 03:18pm - 1625 days | #7 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User  Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
I've never given a site a 100 review, and would hesitate to do so. Rating a site 100 is saying that the site is perfect as it is and nothing about it could be improved, and I for one find that there can be improvement in just about every case. If there is no need for improvement (ie you got a 100 score) what would the site need to strive for? "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 05-29-20 04:17pm - 1625 days | #8 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I don't think I have every given a site a 100% score and I have yet to see a site that deserved it even though I have given many sites very high 90 scores. I try as much as to be as objective as possible in my reviews and that's why a site will never get a 100% score. At least i can't think of any in current existence who deserve it. That said if someone does give 100% score then I expect to see the reasons why in their review and it better be a War and Peace length review. Otherwise I think the person has an agenda or was not able to be objective. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 05-31-20 11:41am - 1623 days | #9 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
I see a lot here that I agree with. especially pat362, Loki, rearadmiral, Homegirl, and LKLK. I'm in total agreement that 100s should be rare - my position is just they shouldn't be unobtainable. I think we all agree that the only way any of us would see a 100 and think it has weight is in the context of the poster, for example, I know that Pat362 and NYGianst03 (haven't seen him in a long time - I hope he is well), have similar tastes to me, in fact I have them as "favorite users" and check out whatever they review. To LKLKs point. I think this is a good place to move from groupthink to group talk. I'm not so set in my ways that I won't change my mind. But I really disagree with Loki's point that 100 is saying a site is perfect - nothing is perfect, and at the end of the day we are grading art (aren't we?). I also don't think too many webmasters look at the reviews we post (for sure there are some very active webmasters, but I don't think big porn is thinking much about what we say here). In other words, I don't think a site would stop striving because a guy with a laptop and wifi in Michigan told him he's doing a "perfect" job. I think competition brings a need to strive. Lastly - I'm not saying that we should start giving out 100s like they're candy. But I think we shouldn't think of using a 100 as verboten. From this discussion, I see I REALLY need to get a membership to FTV (I'll probably start with the MILF site since that is my passion). Had any of you long-standing, well-respected reviewers put a 100 on it in an earlier review I probably would be enjoying that site right now. To sum up. 100 rare- a four-leaf clover- hard to find, but something cool to show off to your friends. | |
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| 05-31-20 05:39pm - 1623 days | #10 | |
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LKLK (0)
Active User Posts: 1,583 Registered: Jun 26, '19 Location: CA |
Note: Not directly on the validity of a site score of 100. But relating to it. Does a site deserve a higher score if the site responds to PU reviews about the site? There used to be a few sites with webmasters who seemed to regularly read the reviews on their sites, and would reply to the reviews with points they agreed with, disagreed with (that they found errors in the review, for example). But that seems to be happening less and less. My guess is that the sites are cutting back on payments to personnel, and that the webmasters or customer service people have less time to read the reviews at PU. It was nice reading the comments from webmasters and customer service reps, because it showed the sites were interested in their customers. And the webmasters and customer service reps had the knowledge to back up their statements. But I've seen less participation from webmasters and customer service reps in the last few months. That's my impression, anyway. | |
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| 05-31-20 06:25pm - 1623 days | #11 | |
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Homegirl (0)
Suspended Posts: 45 Registered: Mar 21, '20 Location: new york |
I can give a guess as to why their participation is down. PU is not the force in the industry that it once was. Many sites are not listed here. People here tell me that we have lost a lot of former members too. Maybe they see PU as becoming irrelevent. Will things get better? I hope so, but don't really expect it. Female and proud Edited on May 31, 2020, 06:33pm | |
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| 06-02-20 04:29am - 1621 days | #12 | |
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Kody (0)
Active User Posts: 26 Registered: Feb 03, '18 Location: NYC |
I personally don't think a 100 is theoretically unachievable. But in practice, it's very unlikely that a site ever will go above 95. Yet the 100 should still be there. If it wasn't there, the 95 would become the near impossible score to achieve  For a site to actually score a 100, it would mean that I am unable to find ANY con about it. There are sites I absolutely loved and gave 90+ score. But I've never in my life, come across a site that doesn't have at least one thing I can think of that can be improved. | |
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| 06-09-20 08:59pm - 1614 days | #13 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
In my view, 100 means no other site does it better. There is always going to be a top scorer and they should get the top score. Why have 100 if people think it shouldnt be used? 100 should come with a detailed explanation and should be very exclusive. We all know every service can do something better. Giving a 100 score does not mean there is not room for improvement. Wow it has been a while since I have been on here! "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 06-10-20 12:53am - 1614 days | #14 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Holy shit, badandy400, where in the world have you been? You've been missing longer than a MILF's virginity! What are you a tenth of the way through your collection?  Good to see you. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 06-10-20 06:28am - 1613 days | #15 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
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| 06-10-20 06:29am - 1613 days | #16 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
Thank you Badand for saying so succinctly what I was trying to say. Well said. (Not to take away from some of the earlier points.)   | |
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| 06-10-20 06:30am - 1613 days | #17 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
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| 06-13-20 01:30pm - 1610 days | #18 | |
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Wraith0711 (0)
Active User  Posts: 277 Registered: May 02, '15 Location: Pueblo CO USA |
Wow I didn't think my opinion would've started a whole thread. My point of that comment was I feel I haven't reviewed near enough sites to earn giving a 100 point score that would be taken seriously. You, my peers would see my low points and instantly disregard my score and keep scrolling without even clicking on it. Now a 100 score from rearadmiral, exotics4me, pat362, or marcdc1 would carry some clout as they've reviewed sites for years here and have shown that they can review objectively. So a perfect score from anyone of these members means so much more than coming from somebody like me that most would still consider a hair past newb. I stand by my statement of I do not feel I have earned the right to leave a perfect score. 100 from a newb means nothing, 100 from a porn addict is instant click to check that shit out! Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. Dr. Ian Malcolm Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? Obi Wan Kenobi | |
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| 06-13-20 05:01pm - 1610 days | #19 | |
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LKLK (0)
Active User Posts: 1,583 Registered: Jun 26, '19 Location: CA |
If you give a site a score of 100, you should give plenty of details backing up why you think it's such a great site. Along with mentioning that any cons are basically minor. And what those cons consist of. But a point score of 21 for Wraith gives you the right to score a site 100, if you feel it deserves it. I don't think I ever gave a score of 100, because the attitude from years ago was that no site deserved a score of 100. But I think the feeling has changed at the PU site. A lot of old-time members have suspended or disabled their accounts, and I don't think as much attention is being paid to the absolute value of a site's score. Just my thinking. Other PU members might want to keep the 100 score as the impossible dream, which no site really deserves. Whatever. | |
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| 06-14-20 06:07am - 1609 days | #20 | |
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Wraith0711 (0)
Active User Posts: 277 Registered: May 02, '15 Location: Pueblo CO USA |
Thank you LKLK. I toltally agree with a comment above that with a 100 score should come with a freaking epic review, a poetic river that requires a bag of popcorn to read. Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.Dr. Ian Malcolm Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? Obi Wan Kenobi | |
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| 06-15-20 01:51am - 1609 days | #21 | |
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Kody (0)
Active User Posts: 26 Registered: Feb 03, '18 Location: NYC |
Haha I loved that last sentence. Especially the alliteration | |
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| 06-15-20 05:37am - 1608 days | #22 | |
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Wraith0711 (0)
Active User Posts: 277 Registered: May 02, '15 Location: Pueblo CO USA |
Off topic but want to say I agree with this. I love FTV Girls as well, and it is a site I subscribe to a couple times a year to keep up on. I love seeing a few of my favorite models take their first steps into the industry. Paige Owens and Goldie Glock come to mind. That being said, I really honestly don't think I have earned the right to leave a perfect score that would be taken seriously by my peers here. I would love to write more reviews but either the sites that I have subscribed too aren't listed here or someone has left a very recent review and my review would be redundant. I would leave a review for a site next to a newer review if my experience differed from the one left but honestly if you agree with that review why would you waste the time to post your review saying almost the exact same things and post it next to a review less than a couple weeks old? I refuse to leave a review solely to pump my numbers for that ridiculous raffle which should be eliminated but that's a subject for another thread. Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. Dr. Ian Malcolm Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? Obi Wan Kenobi | |
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| 06-16-20 08:02am - 1607 days | #23 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
I would like to be 10th of the way but the collection grows so fast. I have officially reached the "hoarder" status not only on the amount of content but even the amount of storage space. I honestly do not know how much storage I have. I had slowed down a bit for a while but then discovered chaturbate. The hoarder in me dictated that I find some sort of stream recorder for it. Haha. I do come around every now and then but have only posted a few times in the last several years. I always loved this community though. I tend to be on reddit now days. I am glad to see that a few of the users I know are still here. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 07-25-20 07:48am - 1568 days | #24 | |
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Wraith0711 (0)
Active User Posts: 277 Registered: May 02, '15 Location: Pueblo CO USA |
Internet download manager has a option to grab streaming videos. It grabs most streaming only site videos, youtue, xnxx, pornhube and so on sites. The only time it doesn't is drm protected content. I too have reached hoarder status as I currently have 27 external hard drives all FULL ranging in size from 4TB all the way to 10TB. I've been taking advantage of these summer and covid specials on year long memberships so I've been trying to shoe-horn content onto these drives lol Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. Dr. Ian Malcolm Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? Obi Wan Kenobi | |
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| 08-11-20 05:13pm - 1551 days | #25 | |
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Wraith0711 (0)
Active User Posts: 277 Registered: May 02, '15 Location: Pueblo CO USA |
Exotics4me just posted his first 100 point score. This just proved my point and many others who said the same thing. I saw the 100 and kept on scrolling until just before disappearing off the screen I caught WHO left it and then it became an instant read entirely based on his reputation. When I see his screen name or pretty much any who have taken the time to comment here I will stop and read/summarize their review. But if it had been a name I wasn’t familiar with then I never would've even clicked on it. As we have all have agreed on here during the course of this discussion the reviewer must earn the right to that score and Exotics4me has long since earned the right to leave this score therefore just from his standing reputation within this community that this score packs a wallop. I stand by my original comment that marcdc1 used to turn into this thread and you all pretty much agreed with one by one. It depends entirely on the reviewer who leaves it. Rearadmiral = credibility and so on, but little Johnny who registered 3 months ago and left a 100 score never to be heard from again or the guy who scores all the sites within the same company 100 doesn’t mean diddly squat. I’ve been around here for a few years now and still feel like a rookie compared to my peers. I still feel that I have not earned the right to leave a CREADIBLE 100 score. Sure I could, but would it be taken seriously? Most likely not and that doesn’t bother me at all. But this was the point of my initial comment with marcdc1 that I simply didn’t explain very well so his focal point became the score itself rather than the reviewer who left it and that is totally my fault. Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. Dr. Ian Malcolm Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? Obi Wan Kenobi | |
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| 08-11-20 06:24pm - 1551 days | #26 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
Wraith I think this is very well put. Also will you please start a new forum post about creating a “sites reviewed” counter to sit along side the reviewers name? I think it’s a great idea and I want you to get the credit for it. I’m thinking if there’s enough interest in the idea it can be taken up by Tom and the rest of the PU staff | |
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| 09-29-23 02:48am - 408 days | #27 | |
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kavya959 (0)
Active User Posts: 8 Registered: Sep 29, '23 Location: London |
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