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04-18-11  01:33pm - 4997 days #7
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


This may not be of much interest to non-U.S. PU'ers,


I suspect that this holds a lot of interest for any members here regardless of where they live and buy their porn just because the U.S. produces so much of the 'mainstream' stuff available.

If I recall corretly, Bill Clinton dialed back on the right-wing attacks on 'obscenity' started by the Reagan administration. It really should come as no surprise that Obama has done the same since the religious-right drives this bus and they don't have the same clout with the Democrats as they do with the Republicans.

Two things that I've read come to mind on this subject:

1) pornography is something that Americans publicly abhor and privately adore.

2) Republicans will let you keep all your money but tell you how you can spend it, while Democrats will take your money but let you do what you want.

All joking aside, this is just part of the bigger culture war in the U.S.

BTW - excellent thread turboshaft.

04-12-11  03:59am - 5004 days #9
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


Anyone who likes exhibitionism would love her site ... it makes for a nice addition to the exhibitionist collection.


I'm glad I asked that question. She looks great, and I'm a big fan of exhibitionism. Updating or not, I'll definitely be checking out this site.

Thanks for the information.

04-11-11  04:21pm - 5004 days #5
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From one non-techie to another, it was explained to me this way:

You are pretty much right that the speed of any download is limited by the slowest part of the deal. So if a site limits you to a speed much slower than what you are capable of (which makes sense since they have a lot of downloaders at once) they determine the download speed. So what's the advantage to you? If you have the extra capacity then you can download at the maximum site speed while other things are going on on your end. If your wife or kids are surfing the net on another computer then that won't limit your speeds.

04-11-11  04:16pm - 5004 days #7
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


That I know of there are two networks. 21 Sextury and 21 Sextreme. Some of the "bonus" sites may be shared between the two. So I don't think, could be wrong, but don't think there is a separate bonus sites network.

Of the three sites you listed in your example, Anal Teen Angels and Daily Sex Dose are both on the 21 Sextury network. Teach Me Fisting is on 21 Sextreme.

I can't speak for the 21 Sextreme network, but the 21 Sextury network works more like this. These are the numbers I'm counting.

21 Sextury has 24 exclusive sites. Which would leave 13 partially are completely non-exclusive sites. These 13 sites are called "bonus sites". Most of these bonus sites are a specific genre and look to be a way for 21 Sextury to post some content that they normally wouldn't produce or provide. Since us porn fans are moody in our content, what we want to see, those bonus sites could give us some content, even non-exclusive, that fits a niche their exclusive sites don't cover.

I think the best example of this is the site Sex City Asia. 21 Sextury has very few Asian models and one exclusive Asian site but it only has 45 scenes, so say you got in the mood to see an Asian model, you could go to this bonus non-exclusive Asian site (100+ scenes) and download a few videos from it. Several of the non-exclusive sites are also based around American models. Since their exclusive sites don't have many American models, those bonus sites, give the member a possibility to download American models.


Thanks for all the information, exotics. I appreciate it. One more question: who's the girl in the picture you use in your posts?

04-11-11  04:14pm - 5004 days #6
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


I wish these people would make it clear exactly which sites you get with the first month's subscription, but they don't.


I agree. While I suspect that I'd hang on to my membership for several months to take advantage of the lower costs I'd be pissed if I joined to access a specific site only to learn that I don't have access to it for another two months. That's my biggest worry about this network.

04-11-11  04:12pm - 5004 days #5
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I wouldn't recommend 21Sextury as they feature mostly 18-25 year old models! Just kidding, just kidding, rearadmiral! I do know your preferences!


Arrrgh!!! Oh wait, you were just kidding. My heart stopped there for a second.

04-11-11  12:47pm - 5005 days Original Post - #1
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I was thinking of joining 21Sextury network finally. Most reviews are positive and they seem to have a lot of stuff that I’d be interested in seeing. I also like that the webmaster is active here in responding to questions and comments. That’s a good sign that they treat customers well.

But in reading RustyJ’s recent review of Teen Bitch Club I’ve learned that there are now three separate networks: 21Sextury, 21Sextreme and Bonus Sites. All seem to be completely separate with separate memberships.

Can an current members confirm whether these three networks are completely separate? If, for example, I want Anal Teen Angels (on the 21Sextury site), Teach Me Fisting (on the 21Sextreme site, and Daily Sex Dose (on the Bonus Sites site) that I’d have to subscribe to all three networks. Or if I make this a long term membership do I get access to all the site eventually like was done in the past with 21Sextury.

Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated.

04-10-11  08:36am - 5006 days Original Post - #1
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I’ve been watching a bunch of PPV titles at Adult Empire.com (the VOD/PPV site, not the one that’s been delisted here). There are tons of titles available for a 24 hour viewing rental for just $1.99. But… I went looking to watch some of the “Pickup Lines” series from Silverstone Video, and got a big surprise. The options for all Silverstone titles are the same as most of the other studios, but the prices are fucking unreal. A 24 hour PPV stream that most studios charge $1.99 for, Silverstone (or Adult Empire.com) wants $20.23. WTF??? You can also buy downloads, most of which cost between $14.00 and $25.99. Some are DRM protected and some aren’t. But Silverstone (or Adult Empire.com) again sets the mark – they want $44.95 for a download. That seems insane for a title that old that should probably be in a bargain bin.

I’m assuming that the pricing problem is with the studio, but am I wrong on that? Is it possible that Adult Empire.com is setting the price that high? This is a possibility because AEBN has the title too and they only charge $5 for a 48 hour rental.

Anyone have any idea why a studio or site would price those titles so far out of the normal range? Is it simple vanity in thinking that they’re product is so much better than everything else? Is it that they don’t give a rat’s ass about selling those titles on the internet?

Any ideas?

04-06-11  03:57am - 5010 days #9
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Maybe by putting a comment on the web site's PU page we might get a reply by the webmaster?


Good idea. I'll give that a shot, but it is probably a long shot. This site doesn't seem like the webmaster would really give a crap about customer satisfaction. I might be wrong though.

04-05-11  05:50pm - 5010 days #2
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You'll fit in well around here!

04-05-11  05:49pm - 5010 days #7
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Originally Posted by messmer:


No mention of downloads .. of course that doesn't necessarily mean downloading a scene is no longer allowed.


That's what threw me off too. TBP doesn't say streaming only either, so maybe the site is being a bit misleading.

After reading Mbaya's review it sounds like this is another studio site that doesn't really have any interest in being on the internet. These sites seem to do it only because they have to. I think they’re making a mistake…

04-05-11  05:40pm - 5010 days #6
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Mbaya:

I don't know how I missed that! I'll check it out now. I'm a big fan of titles and series from Jim Powers.

Thanks for the tip!

04-03-11  04:59pm - 5012 days #3
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Originally Posted by etna:


Hiya, i'm new. Will make sure I set up my profile, but right now I'm a little excited cause I've never talked about porn before.


Be careful! Chatting with like-minded porn users can be addicting. I think you'll find this a fun and informative site.

I don't know of any specific sites that cater to your interests, but my recommendation is to look for any site that offers bukkake. Bukkake seems to be precisely what you're looking for. There is a lot of Japanese stuff out there, but some of the best is a series called American Bukkake from JM Productions. JM Productions has a website but I'm not sure if you can download from them or even if American Bukkake is offered on the website. I've visited the site before but find it confusing and maybe even misleading. Perhaps another PU can give some insight into that website and that might be a place for you to start.

Welcome to the PU family.

04-03-11  10:56am - 5013 days #12
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I saw this on Gawker yesterday and checked out the site. That was before I read the article that the original poster linked here. At first I thought that the guy who created the site might be claiming some moral high ground or something, but after looking at just two pages it became pretty clear that this was the work of a really twisted person. I wouldn�t agree with it, but if a star�s real name was part of a page that provided useful information I could see someone thinking that was a fair use of the information. But on the two star�s pages that I looked at the only information is that the girl is a porn star and a �hooker.� And her real name is revealed. One linked the real name to another page that was even more degrading.

I really hope that this site gets shut down soon.

If not, I have a modest proposal. Given the links between porn collecting and the military, I can�t be the only PU here who wears a uniform. I propose a PU vigilante group to protect the young ladies who give us so much pleasure. I suspect that my combat boot up this guy�s arse might cause him to rethink his position.

Anyone else want in?

04-03-11  10:47am - 5013 days #18
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Originally Posted by pat362:


It's nothing new. You just have to look at Britney who's made a career lyp syncing. I wonder where she would be if she had to rely on her singing talent? I just find that it's more pervasive these days because of itunes. The business model that everyone says saved the music industry is also responsible for making stars out of artist that would have been laughed at 10yrs ago and hits out of songs that wouldn't have made it to the bargain bin at Walmart.

Nobody minds paying a 1$ for a crappy song because it's only a dollar. Of course when a million people do it then that crappy song becomes a hit. Porn isn't any better. How many times do you still see sites offer 1$ memberships?
You can still make a lot of money even if you only make 10 cents out of each dollar because of the amount of people willing to spend only 1$ on porn.


Maybe I'm an old fart, but I'd rather pay for quality.

I remember my wife bought the first Britney disk when it came out. She listened to it once and now it sits on a shelf. There is nothing about the music that makes it durable. It isn't art, it is just a commodity.

04-03-11  08:50am - 5013 days #16
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Originally Posted by slutty:


I just can't stand all this autotune garbage, someone in my office was listening to that equally horrible and inane Friday song yesterday and I was about ready to pour my coffee on them. And 10 years ago I thought that surely music would never get worse than the Backstreet Boys.




I agree! So much of what passes for music these days is more like manufactured crap. I remember hearing an interview with someone in the music industry who said that younger people are missing out on hearing people actually sing - the recorded music and even the live stuff is so doctored up that it isn't real anymore.

And don't waste your coffee. Go nuclear on them: blast them with powerhouses like the Allman Brothers (the original band with Dickie Betts) or go thermo-nuclear on them and blast them with some super-funk-a-delic Parliament. Let Bootsy Collins go medieval on their ass.

04-02-11  05:18am - 5014 days #12
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


wondered why FTV didn't promote themselves in public porn since I thought they were much better at it than the public sites I had seen.

I need to join there again and see what all I've missed.


I agree with you. I made a comment in my FTV review that they were an excellent public nudity / exhibitionism site and I heard from the webmaster who wasn't entirely happy with that. He didn't want to be seen as a niche site. My point wasn't that it was a niche site, but that they were leaving a whole market untapped.

And like you, I think that it's about time I head back to FTV and see what's new. I don't know if I have the Melia scene. It doesn't sound familiar though if it is an older one I should have it. Gotta go dig out that portable drive and check...

04-01-11  11:25am - 5015 days #10
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


Also surprises me that I will mention these since I have been frustrated with this site, but a lot of FTV scenes are favorites. I'm on a whole exhibitionism kick right now so look over me on that, but the exhibitionism scenes at FTV are really good. I can't think of the model's name, but she has a whole group of scenes on there where she starts out stripping in a car repair garage, guys all around, seriously working on cars. The slight boob teases turn into nude except thong moments and these lead to her masturbating in a room with the mechanics watching.


I agree 100%. FTV Girls has some amazing exhibitionist scenes. I've often wondered why they don't promote themselves as a public nudity / exhibitionist site because they really do that well. They do it better than a lot of sites that sell themselves as public nudity / exhibitionist sites.

My favorites have to be Gabriella and Melina. Gabriella simply because how daring it is. I love the scene on the stairway where she gets caught by the two older men who then hang around and encourage her. I'd do the same! Then there is the nude masturbation scene just off a busy public road, and finally the nudity on the side of the freeway.

I like Melina because she is so playful about it. I especially like the sidewalk scene where the cameraman has to reign her in a bit. It helps that she is also everything I look for in a model.

04-01-11  11:14am - 5015 days #9
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Drooler - that scene certainly does need to be mentioned. I had forgotten about that, and thanks for the reminder. I have it from when I had a membership at HD Porn but I never knew where it was from. I have it with "Once a Cheater, Always a Cheater" so thanks for reminding me. Like you (and like a lot of other guys too, I suspect) the last position with her face down is AMAZING! It makes a great scene almost perfect.

03-31-11  11:00am - 5016 days #3
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Well... that's two minutes of my life I'll never get back.

I think I'll go pierce my eardrums with Q-tips and have a stiff drink. If this is what passes for music these days, I won't be needing to hear any more...

03-31-11  10:55am - 5016 days #6
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This is like picking a favorite food! Except that I own a lot more porn than I do food.

But, having said that, in the spirit of being co-operative I'll take a run at listing SOME scenes that would be in the running for a favorite.

In no particular order:

Inari Vachs in Whack Attack - Butt Fuckin' Frenzy
Tammi Ann in Hitchhiker 1
Heather St. Claire in Buttman's Wet Dream
Taylor Rain in Just Over 18 3
Jenna Haze in Just Over 18 2
Gauge in Unnatural Sex 2
Chandler in Lord of Asses 2
Naudia Nyce in Meat Pushin' in the Seat Cushion
Krysti Myst in Cocktails
Veronica Jett in Innocence - Ass Candy
Gauge in Innocence - Ass Candy
Aubrey Addams and Kylee Reese in Almost Jailbait 4
Destiny St. Claire in First Date
Angel Long in Young as they Cum 6
Sapphire Rae in 2Anal4U
Summer Storm in Chrissy the Campus Slut
Candy Hill and Phyllisha Anne in Bodyslammin'
Chelsie Rae in The Hitchhiker (not the same DVD as the Tammi Ann title)
Flick Shagwell in Straight to the A
Vivian Valentine in California Calendar Girls
Tiffany Holiday in Assholes 3
Katie Gold in Sweet Rides
Stacy Carpenter in Trained Teens 2
Angela Stone in Teen Meat 4
Brodi in First Date

I could go on, and on and on, but I won't. Each of these scenes (and many more) are scenes that I go back to regularly for any of several reasons. If you're looking for a theme, I don't think you'll find one that runs through all of them, but an obvious recurring trend is young women doing anal sex.

03-28-11  04:49pm - 5018 days #9
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Man, I gotta get more interested in Euro models so I can have half a clue about these girls you mention.

03-23-11  12:44pm - 5024 days #49
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Originally Posted by Jay G:


It's a slippery slope when you start jailing "sick" people. The Taliban is much more efficient and stones women who don't where blankets over their face. Christian Religious Conservatives hate the Taliban because they envy them and really would like to get back to burning witches themselves.

The terrible thing about freedom is that people start to think that everyone deserves it, not just the privileged classes.


And as usual, I agree with Jay G. Well said with the references to the Taliban. The Taliban and western Christian fundamentalists are a lot alike. The big difference is people like us who don't let the religious nuts impose their twisted views on everyone.

03-22-11  02:29pm - 5024 days #23
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Originally Posted by Colm4:


I just can't bear to delete anything! After downloading a scene, I decide to keep or delete it and once that decissions has been made, I will keep the file forever.
I even have movies smaller then 640x480 and though they're not top of the line, I still keep them. Even just for nostalgic reasons.


Finally! Someone who understands me!

Thanks Colm4.

03-22-11  02:27pm - 5024 days #47
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Originally Posted by Lost500:


I am glad he is in jail. The guy is sick.

Considering his videos were based on depraved acts & dressing models up in childrens clothes, he should have gotten 25 years.

Good riddance to a pure sicko, hope he rots & never gets out.


I can't tell. Would you consider yourself a fan then?

All joking aside, whether you like him or not (and there doesn't appear to be any in-between), Max was railroaded. His material may have been extreme, but it was consenual and broke no laws other than offending some people.

03-22-11  02:21pm - 5024 days #22
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Thanks to everyone who weighed in on this. I think I'll wait and find a decent laptop on sale.

03-22-11  02:20pm - 5024 days #5
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I prefer to think of Ron Jeremy as a product of his times with a lot of staying power. He was a lot like many of his contemporaries when he started out. Back then the porn business was using actors and actresses with some acting talent in an attempt to make porn more mainstream. It just happens that Ron stayed around a lot longer than some of the others.

I wouldn't say that I 'like' Ron Jeremy as a porn performer but neither do I dislike him. Frankly I don't really 'like' any male porn star enough to actively seek scenes out with one (with the possible exception of ‘the decorator’ aka Peter North just to see the reaction of his female partner when she faces down the biggest cum shot in the business) but regardless of his appearance he still can perform.

In the more recent sex scenes he’s done (which are likely at least 5+ years old now) I don’t think I’ve seen any where he is a bad performer. I’d watch Ron Jeremy please a young lass any day over some of the newer male talent who think the porn scene is all about them. If Ron is playing a non-sex role he does that well and usually hams it up, but if he’s in a sex role he doesn’t try to upstage the women. I definitely like that about him.

03-17-11  04:55pm - 5029 days #19
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


Just trying to share options and ideas.


And I appreciate all the advice. Thanks guys.

03-16-11  05:57pm - 5030 days #17
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Originally Posted by pinkerton:


If Blu-Ray as an archive/storage medium takes off, then I'd probably rely more on that than I would on external drives for maintaining my collection.


I'm hoping that some day that flash drive / solid-state drives will evolve and come down in price. My fantasy (excluding the ones that involve me and Aubrey Addams, me and Tanner Mayes, me and etc.) is a 1TB flash drive as small as the current crop of USB drives and costing the same. But obviously those are just dreams given that flash drive / solid-state memory hasn't dropped in price like other memory.

03-16-11  03:28pm - 5030 days #16
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


If you do not need a screen built on then a desktop can still be the best choice. They make small laptop mice, and roll up keyboards. These are small, light, and fairly cheap.

Larger screens also mean more room for goodies inside the laptop.
Check out THIS on Newegg.

This or similar products might be something to consider. Certainly cheaper than a laptop. Just add a small travel mouse and roll up keyboard and you are good to go.

I know I am sounding like a laptop is a bad option, but it is not. There certainly are good laptops and if the idea of having a built in screen and all is appealing than a laptop is your best choice. What I am suggesting is a great option if you are sure you will have an external screen.


That's a cool looking PC, and I'd never heard of a roll-up keyboard before. While I'd certainly intend that I'd always have an external screen available, I suspect I'd regret not having the option. You know, for those Saturdays when you're too hung over to get out of bed. I suspect that I'll have to go the laptop route.

03-16-11  01:37pm - 5030 days #14
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


Personally I'd spend a little more and go with a smaller laptop. I've got a 12inch laptop with a fast dual-core processor and decent graphics chipset. It cost more but it copes with everything I've thrown at it and runs for 4-5 hours on battery, but it's still really portable.


That's a good point. Since for the intended use it will be run through a monitor or TV then I can save on screen size and put those savings into the processor and/or video. While I suspect that a netbook could run 90% of my current collection fairly well, as more and more HD material comes available I'd probably regret a netbook purchase.

Now if I could find a laptop with a small screen... it seems the biggest selling point is a large screen these days.

03-15-11  05:57pm - 5031 days #10
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Wait, are you saying the cute girl who lives down the street with her parents and goes to college doesn't do anal?


Hmmm... I was just speculating when I wrote that. There are a few cute college girls in my neighborhood so maybe I'll see if porn has been telling me the truth all these years. I can't imagine that porn would lie to me.

I'll let you know what I find out.

03-15-11  05:55pm - 5031 days #9
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


These are my favorite types of stars! What's hotter than a girl who looks like someone you would actually meet in real life? (I guess actually meeting one would be pretty hot.) I've never liked the whole super-slutty stripper look so many go in for--the massive breasts, heavy makeup, permed hair, standard "bad girl" tattoos. Ugh!

These girls look like they're fulfilling an old porn stereotype instead of just trying to appear attractive. I feel the same way about beauty pageant contestants who start to look more like transsexuals than genuinely attractive women. Give me people, not space aliens!

I say drop the clownish getup and go for the hot girl next door/innocent business woman look, then pair that with nasty hardcore scenes and I'm turned on. I mean it already looks pretty freaky and slutty when a girl is manhandling (womanhandling?) a bunch of boners with a sense of both experience and enthusiasm, she doesn't really need to tart her looks up too.



Wait, are you saying the cute girl who lives down the street with her parents and goes to college doesn't do anal?


Jeez... we might be related since our tastes are so similar. I think that one of the lines i draw in porn is the girl with the man-made boob, lips and whatever else with piercings and tatoos. I'm not drawn to that look at all. But the seet girl next door who just happens to do nasty stuff is exactly what I like.

What's really bad is when a model starts as a beautiful girl-next-door type and then trnsitions to pumped-up and tarted-up to make more money (since a lot of the market clearly prefers the plastic and tatoos). Teagan Presley is in this group. I remember the first time I saw her and it was love at first sight. I'm definitely not a fan of her newer look.

03-15-11  05:48pm - 5031 days #10
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


The biggest question to ask yourself is "Do I actually need it to be portable?" If the answer is yes, then continue on, but if the answer is no, or not really, than a desktop is the best choice. Laptops have much less power for the price, particularly on the video aspect. If you travel a lot than a laptop is right for you, but if you are at home mostly than a desktop is the best choice.

If you need portability at times, then a lower level laptop might be appropriate. What it comes down to is whether or not the portability is worth the trade of for price or performance.

I know you might think you do not need performance, but it is worth more than many realize, particularly for porn viewing. The incredible pictures and videos being put out these days really do benefit from a strong system. Download a full HD video and try skipping around the video to find the good bits on a even a medium quality machine and see how long you can bare it.

Bottom line is that quality porn viewing should be done on a quality machine. Not saying to spend thousands by any means! Like a many other things it is a compromise. You can have two of the following: Price, Portability, Power. You can not get all three. It is up to you to weigh these out.


Based on yours and other comments here I’ve scrapped my idea of buying a netbook. While I’d like to find a low-cost solution I realize now that to get low cost I’d be trading away performance. That would be a short-term gain for long term pain. I doubt I’d be satisfied with watching my older videos on a netbook and now that I’m downloading more higher-res and HD stuff I’d definitely regret the choice in the future. I think I’ll just wait until finances permit a more sensible choice.

I had thought I may have found another choice when you mentioned just using a PC. Portability is one of the primary things I’m looking for since whatever it is it will travel with me. Then I noticed that Dell sells a mini PC all-in-one unit called the Zino. It looks like it would fit the bill: PC processor power, PC price, lots of USB slots, HDMI and VGA ports. I was thinking that this might be the solution since it is small enough to be portable. Then it occurred to me: to use this I’d need to cart around a keyboard and mouse which would seriously limit the true portability of the thing.

So if I decide to go this route then it obviously has to be a laptop…

03-15-11  12:51pm - 5032 days #14
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and I didn't feel the need to discard any content because regardless of whether I looked at it regularly, it was hard-won,


That probably sums up a lot of my reluctance to discard anything. I've spent time finding it (even if 'finding it' simply means I downloaded everything from a site), I've paid for it, and I've catalogued it. One reason why I should probably purge is that I've never actually watched up to 30% of my collection. But I still can't do it.

I enjoyed reading your description of the early days of porn viewing and how you moved to pay sites and dealt with storage issues. That describes me too, and I'd bet it describes a lot more of us here.

03-15-11  03:45am - 5032 days #6
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I know that those who didn't at first look the part, seasoning over time in the business ultimately put them there.


I'd put Taylor Rain on the top of that list. She looked like a sweet young lass from next door in her earliest videos (as long as the sweet young lass from next door took big cocks in the bum) but as her career progressed she started to look like a true porn queen. And I mean that is a good and respectful way. She will always be high on my list of favorites.

03-15-11  03:43am - 5032 days #8
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I'm convinced. Thanks for all the information guys. You've saved me from making a purchase that would have only brought frustration. I'll hunt around for a decently priced laptop instead.

Once again, the PU community comes through!

03-14-11  06:15pm - 5032 days #4
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Why not get a laptop instead of a netbook?


The reason comes down to cost. I have a PC that is my primary computer and I do have a work-supplied laptop that I'd never download porn onto. I use it for viewing porn but then clean all records of that. I'm thinking that I'd be smart to use something that I own and can control. I could buy a laptop (and that may be what I decide to do) but a laptop will cost a fair bit more. The laptop would cost about double and my thought is that I might actually be buying more capability than I need. But maybe not. If all I'm looking to do is plug it into a TV or monitor and play video then if the netbook does that okay then maybe it is all I need. And I guess I'd like the ability to read Word documents.

But on the other hand, I might regret lacking the features that I'm used to.

I just don't know anyone with a netbook who uses it for what I want to use it for. A friend just bought one, but he isn't a porn buddy so I can't ask him the questions I've posed here. I am going to take his for a bit of a test drive with some mainstream video and that might give me an idea of whether or not it could work.

Thanks for the advice.

03-14-11  03:04pm - 5032 days #2
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Anyone??? Hello???

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I’m not hearing a lot of agreement with my position that porn should never be discarded in this age of cheap storage, but I stand by my earlier position.

I’ll admit that I’ve never had my tastes change. When I was in my late teens I was attracted to girls in their late teens. By the time I was thirty, I was still attracted to girls in their late teens. Now, in my mid-forties, I’m still attracted to girls in their late teens, though just to prove I’m not a complete sicko I will occasionally ogle a lady who might be 20 or even 21. The closest thing I’ve ever had to a change in taste was when I discovered I like watching anal scenes. But I didn’t throw out all my vaginal material.

The fact that my tastes haven’t changed makes me unwilling to part with anything. The times I did purge I had to do so because of storage limitations, but I always regretted it and have spent a lot of time and money trying to locate some of the older stuff I had. I’m sure I’m not alone in having some scenes or pics that just hit all the right buttons. Why get rid of that?

So in the age of pennies-per-gigabyte storage, unless your tastes have really changed, save your porn! The only change in taste that I could foresee causing me to purge porn would have to be pretty monumental – like giving up on 18-20 year old skinny models doing nasty things in hardcore videos because I suddenly realized that I really do prefer short, balding, hairy men with small penises. Even then I’d probably keep my former collection in case some fundamentalists were able to cure me.

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I’m a bit of a Luddite when it comes to computer stuff, so bear with me on this one…

I’m thinking of buying a netbook but wonder if it will be disappointing for use as a porn viewer. I realize that the netbook’s claim to fame is as a small, lightweight computer used primarily for surfing the ‘net. While I would certainly use it for some ‘net surfing it wouldn’t be my primary computer for downloading porn. I’ll stick to my desktop and hard-wired internet connection for that.

As a porn computer, most of the time it would be hooked to a monitor or TV. I’m assuming that these things have a VGA port. Do they?

Once I’ve got it hooked up to a monitor or TV I’d then plug in an external drive with WMV porn on it. Does a netbook have the power to run Windows Media Player or does it have to have some other player? Does it play video files well enough? Can it handle HD?

Is there a plug-in for a set of speakers? Is the audio any good?

All of my collection is catalogued in a Word file. Are Word documents accessible or would I need to upgrade?

If I wanted to add some software (Power DVD, for example) could I just plug in an external DVD drive and install it?

I realize that these are all really basic questions, but I just don’t know the answers. I suspect that the vast majority of netbook owners just use it to access social media sites, but would it have the ability to serve as a decent computer for viewing porn?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated!

03-13-11  02:34pm - 5033 days #3
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I think your ideas of "born for porn" and "too pretty for porn" are from earlier times, which have come and gone.



I agree with you on that. I really just couldn't think of better terms to get my idea across.

I don't really follow many models from Europe, but I suspect that I should start doing so. Many of the models I've seen are really very attractive, and there seems to be a lot more attractive European models than attractive U.S. models.

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I'm not really sure what I'm asking here, so maybe an explanation is better:

I have a few favorite porn stars who just seem too cute to be in porn. Looking at them they look like they'd be more likely to have a regular job and settle down than to be in the porn business.

And to make it even more strange, three of those models that come to mind also do some pretty raw hardcore. For earlier stuff (I'm a big fan of 1990s and early 2000s stuff) Inari Vachs just seems like someone who you'd see married and working a day job. Same with Jasmine Lynn. She just seems so... normal. And for a modern example, I'd point to Aubrey Addams. She seems like the cute girl who lives down the street with her parents and goes to college. But all three of these girls even do anal.

I guess to contrast these girls with models who seem 'born for porn' I'd compare them to models like Vanessa Lane, Amber Rayne or Tiffany Holiday.

I realize that this is a highly subjective topic, but do you have any favorites who are 'too pretty for porn'?

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Don't do it!!!!

With the availabilty of cheap memory I would never recommend deleting anything, even if it isn't something you're currently interested in. Over the years I've done some purging and always regretted it. The first time was purging some VHS tapes because the physical size of them was just too big to store. Those were difficult decisions.

The second time was when I was burning porn on CDs because DVD-Rs were still far to expensive. I had a space problem again.

I then had a huge collection of collection of commercial porn DVDs and was thinking that I'd have to get rid of them but I was able to find some software that allowed me to convert them to wmv files so I didn't have to discard anything.

Each time I've done a purge I end up regretting it. And for me, each time I've done a purge has been driven my storage limitations. But now I rely on cheap memory like the Western Digital Passports and similar. The price per GB is very low now and continues to drop, so do yourself a favor and just find a way to store what you have. You be glad that you did.

03-12-11  05:32am - 5035 days #7
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Well, it's not really what you had in mind, but I have quite an interest in erotic photo books - some of which feature well-known porn stars and photographers. If that sort of thing might appeal, take a look at publishers:

Goliath - recently published a Holly Randall book

Edition Skylight - forthcoming Porn Stars project book

Taschen - who also have some more documentary books, eg Big book of breasts, Big book of legs

I also have a hugely entertaining and insightful book called Pink Box, about girls working in sex clubs in Japan.


Excellent tips. Thanks for these. I'll google them and check them out.

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I don't know of any books, rearadmiral, but there's a series called "Pornucopia" on late night Canadian TV (Cable) that seems to give a pretty good insider's look into the Porn Industry. Another one is "Webdreams." I never watch them (except for a first but also last time just to see what they are about) because I don't WANT to know what goes on behind the scenes. I like my illusions too much!


I've seen some (maybe all) of that series. It was fairly well done.

If it is the series I'm thinking of, I remember one episode quite well. I'm pretty open-minded, but the episode titled "Same Sex Sex" was a bit creepy when they discussed the whole 'gay for pay' thing. The scene I remember distinctly was where an attractive young woman helps her husband get ready to shoot a gay scene in a boxing ring. When the scene is being filmed the documentary crew pans over to the woman sitting watching her husband have sex with another guy. From a male perspective, I'd have no trouble watching two women have sex, but I can't imagine that a woman would be as open to seeing two men go at it, especially if she was married to one of them. But maybe I'm just a little too old school...

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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Good question, rearadmiral. I've often thought that a book on the career of Bruce Seven would be fascinating - mainly because he had a core group of performers around him and it could get into all of those relationships - sort of like a real-life, more fetishy Boogie Nights.

But I've never seen books on the porn business that are not the Linda Lovelace-style - I was abducted and raped for 7 years type of thing where everybody who remained in the business and was around any of the events described can only say, "What a pack of lies!"

There was that film documentary about Shauna Grant that PBS did in the 80's that was half-decent. And even better - no, WAY better than that is the film "Kamikaze Hearts" that focused on the relationship between Sharon Mitchell and Tigr Menet at a point when Sharon Mitchell was still performing and was a heroin addict. I'll never forget one scene where Sharon Mitchell was shooting up on camera, looking right into the lens, talking about "Nobody will ever want to work with me once they see this", like she was deliberately torpedoing her performing career in order to get on with her life. It's an amazing film, got shown at a bunch of film festivals when it was first released.


I've seen several decent documentaries on the business that aren't done by anti-porn people. I can't remember the titles though. It seems porn in print is a lot more rare. Maybe everyone figures that the stereotypical porn user is illiterate.

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Little Lord WTF's post about erotic literature got me thinking about the intersection of books and porn. I haven't read fiction in a long time, but I read a lot of non-fiction instead.

Does anyone know of any decent non-fiction books about the porn business?

And before you dismiss this by thinking "Jeez, seeing that clip of Amber Rayne run the bases at Fenway with a baseball bat up her ass has finally sent him off the deep end" there really is such a thing as a non-fiction porn book.

The only one I've read (and I'd HIGHLY recommend it) is "Prisoner of X: 20 years in the Hole at Hustler Magazine" by Allan MacDonell. It's a great read by the guy who rose to editor of Hustler magazine back when magazines ruled the porn world.

Can anyone recommend any others?

And if there really is a video of Amber Rayne running the bases at Fenway with a baseball bat in her ass, please send me the link.

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I love reading and do a lot of it, but I've never considered erotic writing as part of a balanced diet of porn. That's not to say that it isn't or can't be, but I guess it's just not something that I considered.

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I don't really know this guy's work enough to have formed an opinion, but he's done a number of scenes for Public Disgrace where they film in Europe. I haven't gone back to watch those scenes again recently, but I don't recall that they stuck out as being particularly degrading. But that might be hard to do since the theme of the site is to degrade women (consenually, in a BDSM setting though).

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