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12-11-13  01:03pm - 4029 days #20
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


I have had several of my models get aroused while shooting. And these are not pornographic photos, but just stripping. Even have had some become aroused doing non-nude shoots. I think at some point they become jaded with it, but there are some who find it genuinely exciting.


Do you have any picture sets with the proof of that, Simarimas? I would love to have some.

12-10-13  11:45am - 4030 days #9
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Originally Posted by Micha:


Yeah, Me too on the photos. You click on a pic and you see a nipple that fills the screen. Scroll for 2 minutes, and there's the navel.

But stills are an easy fix in PhotoShop. Changing the size takes 5 seconds.
After downloading a 1180p for an hour or so, shrinking that puppy down is beyond my skill set.


Hi Micha, I am always baffled when it comes to comments like the one you made. Is there not a setting in your viewer that allows you to see the whole picture, no matter how many pixels? I use Irfanview and don't have your problem.

12-10-13  12:11am - 4031 days #4
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I agree with biker.

There are few, if any users who would want or even have the facilities to print out a large poster size image.

As long as it fills the screen & looks good & sharp on my monitor, I'm fine with the image size.

On a related note, I fail to see why any shots for web publication are taken in vertical format.
The horizontal format works so much better for widescreen computer monitors.

Cap'n.


Ah, an often discussed subject, Cap'n and both you and I are still left in the dark as to why the Web prefers portrait to landscape. My dream is to own a complete set in landscape only. Those pictures would look wonderful on my wide screen monitor and TV!

12-06-13  06:15pm - 4034 days #4
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Nelson understood the importance of Rugby.


Nelson understood the importance of forgiveness!

12-06-13  02:28pm - 4034 days #13
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I've recently gotten more interested in sites that feature unscripted and/or self-videotaped sex scenes for the very reason of seeing models that are actually aroused rather than playing the part. While common belief is that vaginal secretion is the best indicator of arousal, it really isn't. As jberryl69 pointed out, you can look for neck and chest flushing, though the visibility of this varies for individuals (skin color aside, some people blush more than others).

Interestingly, usually a better indicator is that both the nose and lips contain erectile properties and will enlarge and flush during arousal (the ears will also flush). Often times when one sees users complaining about "sick" girls needlessly performing sex scenes and citing the red nose, lips and excess saliva as evidence - they may actually be witnessing a truly aroused performer. Those are only some of the more obvious indicators of arousal. Desensitivity to pain is another good indicator.

Mary Roach wrote a hilarious and informative book that covers this subject entitled: "Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex". I highly recommend it.

As for videos with genuinely aroused women, I recommend CzechAV - they have Czech Mega Swingers and Czech Amateurs. ATK's new site ATK Girlfriends also features some genuine arousal scenes as well.


Thanks, toadsith, for your invaluable tips. I am going to see if Kindle has the book you recommend and also have a good look at the Czech and new ATK site. It's also nice to see you are still around.

12-06-13  11:23am - 4034 days Original Post - #1
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My undisputed hero of the past century! R.I.P.

12-06-13  11:20am - 4034 days #11
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Originally Posted by graymane:


OK, Pal, we both know fakery rules and is pervasive in internet porn. ..but..herein, my first celluar post to you after your dramatic, official, and welcomed reappearance......

If you can, in order to stymie scrip-reading: Think of yourself as the protagonist in a heated coital moment, the male figure (naturally) .... mutually enwrapped in the actual feel and visual plain of the physical and mental, ..... of being in full possession of this woman .....with no commercially adverse protocol, or likewise events hampering the grasp of invitational spontaneity , and in event there being a direct plug-in with genuine, chemically (bodily embraced) natural phenomena in play .......the reward of which granting a Rembrandt worldly worth.


But, but .. I don't want to think myself of full possession of this woman, my old friend. I am a voyeur .. I just want to look! And it would help to know that the model enjoys showing off her goodies even though she gets compensated for the shoot.

12-06-13  11:15am - 4034 days #10
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Damn Messmer - you sure you aren't just describing a vag infection?

From http://women.webmd.com "A woman's vagina normally produces a discharge that usually is described as clear or slightly cloudy, non-irritating, and odor-free."

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginal_secretion

"Vaginal lubrication is a lubricating fluid that is naturally produced in a woman's vagina. Vaginal lubrication or moistness is always present, but production increases significantly during sexual arousal in anticipation of sexual intercourse.

Plasma seepage from vaginal walls due to vascular engorgement is considered to be the chief lubrication source, and the Bartholin's glands, located slightly below and to the left and right of the introitus (opening of the vagina), also secrete mucus to augment vaginal-wall secretions."

But I know of no videos that seek out this secretion to display. Probably too subtle for porn producers - If it don't squirt it's no show.


Okay, let me change it to "slightly cloudy." And I agree it might be a bit difficult to show in a video. I am thinking mostly picture sets! Thank you for giving me a word to use without embarrassment: vaginal lubrication. Does sound awfully clinical, though!

12-06-13  11:11am - 4034 days #9
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Originally Posted by Micha:


Messmer wrote : I am blushing because .........

Embarassment or arousal? Splotchy redness in the chest,neck and face is an indication of arousal according to the 70's print psychologists advising male readers how they can tell if their partners orgasm was genuine.


LOL. Definitely embarrassment, Micha!

12-05-13  08:26pm - 4035 days #5
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Thanks guys, very interesting answers. I wasn't thinking so much of orgasms but of the tell-tale sign of arousal like obvious wetness of the vagina. Is there a name for it, like pre-cum in a man? I know the secretion is slightly milky looking, it's not squirting ... I am blushing because this must be the most graphic I've ever been on any forum. All I know is that I would love to come across a set of pictures like that, a set that would convince me that, gee, this woman is really into it ... someone who really likes displaying herself to the world. Okay, the money helps, you can tell that she's an exhibitionist at heart and not just a paid pro or semi-pro!

12-05-13  03:08pm - 4035 days Original Post - #1
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Have you ever come across any evidence in picture sets or videos that the female was truly aroused?

I have ever only come across it in "In The Crack" and in no other place and there it was too gynecological to be erotic. Oh, yes, there were a couple of pictures showing arousal in one of the ATK sites, come to think of it, but that's about it.

There's plenty of evidence of artificial lubrication but very little of the natural kind. Do models ever get turned on by what they are doing, I wonder, or is it all for the money, with sexuality put on the back burner?

Just wasting some time on a Thursday afternoon!

12-05-13  02:59pm - 4035 days #39
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


Welcome back messmer! Good to see you around here again.


Thanks, rearadmiral. Nice to be back and good to see you again!

12-03-13  09:45pm - 4037 days #37
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Originally Posted by Khan:


messmer, I know I said it in email but allow me to add my hearty "welcome back" to those already posted.

And yes, graymane ... messmer's return is what I predicted would bring a smile to your face.



Thanks, Khan , for your warm welcome back through email and in this post. I really had no idea that I would be able to bring a smile to anyone's face! Makes my day for sure.

12-03-13  09:38pm - 4037 days #36
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I don't think I'm wrong when I say that everyone is glad to see you back messmer.


Thanks, Pat. I missed every one of the regulars, too.

12-03-13  03:57pm - 4037 days #32
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Well hallelujah!! there is a God.
With all due cause for breakin' out the Champaign , though, I'm having to toss a worthy recognition, and rising an equally hardy high-fives to wittyguy!
Why? if you'll trot back to shortly after your announced departure, you'll see a very convincing post somewhere by witty predicting this very happenstance. I mean, its not like that was your first time.

I suppose this is what Khan said was coming that would make me smile. And as usual, he's right.

So jump right in, Bro ......get crackin' with that messmer-prose that we've so much been missing. Wanna remind you, also, our "bitichin' pot is gettin' mighty low.
Subsequently, those stubborn porn-peddlers have had a field-day since you've been gone.


Oh, cybertoad! its homecoming!...... get your ass back here!


Why, thanks for your enthusiastic welcome back, brother! I don't have too many friends (actually none except my wife) in my every day life, so it feels good to be missed by someone. I'm out of "bitchin'" material at the moment so we'll have to wait to see what develops, but you can be sure that nothing will hold me back if I see something that gets me going. I doubt that Khan was talking about me but am glad you think so. I've really missed you gentlemen, even though I looked in almost every day, but it is not the same as participating.

m.

12-03-13  02:54pm - 4037 days #30
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Welcome back, my friend.

I am so pleased to see you post again!

Well, I am still crusading for it!

Cap'n.


I knew you would still be crusading, Cap'n! Keep up the good work and thanks for the welcome back. I appreciate it.

12-03-13  02:47pm - 4037 days #28
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Originally Posted by biker:


I am always in favor of strip teases. These sites where they just pound away get tiring awful fast. I like some seduction. So for Christmas I would like more sites that have more then just humping.


Exactly, biker. See my reply to Pat!

12-03-13  02:46pm - 4037 days #27
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Since graymane started and I enjoyed his letter to Santa then here is mine.

Dear Santa.

I tend to be one of those people who prefers giving then receiving so here is what I'd like to ask for Christmas. Could you please try to make sure that 2014 be the return of great porn so that all of us old farts who remember the better days and long for their return can finally get some satisfaction. I don't expect this in January but March seems like a good time to start. Now since my request is a little vague then let me list some of the things that I believe many others would like to see. These are in no particular order so I leave it to your excellent judgement on how you will go about getting it done. I'd like more companies shooting porn with better budgets, less gonzo and more scenario based porn, more passionate sex instead of extreme penetration, More clothes than just a bikini at the beginning of the scene, more kissing instead of spitting in the face or mouth, less chocking and gagging and a whole lot more caressing, performers that shoot more than two scenes and then disappear and finally the use of condoms in porn on a regular basis (that one is for me).


P.S: I would really appreciate it if you could somehow make sure that all Tube Sites get turned off and their owners prosecuted then I would be that much more grateful.


Hey, Pat, you posted a carbon copy of my letter. I'd accuse you of plagiarism if you hadn't been first!

12-03-13  02:19pm - 4037 days #25
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Hey, guys, I am back and I must say that I missed you even though I looked in practically every day. Now that civility has returned to this forum I simply couldn't stay away any longer. So, anyone up to talking about strip teases and lingerie?

BTW, good post, graymane!

09-22-13  11:45am - 4109 days Original Post - #1
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... it's been good to know you. I think the time to quit has come. Over the past four - five months I've had less and less desire to look at porn and the straw that finally broke the camel's back was a very recent subscription to one of my favorite sites where I downloaded tons of videos in order to get caught up, but when I started to watch them on TV, I could only think that I was wasting my time; time that could have been spent reading a book.

I don't blame anything but my age and am glad that, as a huge compensation, I rediscovered my love of reading! Mine would have been a pretty empty life otherwise because I had also mostly given up on TV, except for a handful of shows.

As I have let you know, through some of my posts, I am pretty well house-bound, so the loss of libido could have been catastrophic and I mourned it for a long time until .. see rediscovered love of reading.

I have stuck with this forum and the polls because I have been reluctant to give up the cyber friends I have made over the years but feel that in a porn forum I now have nothing to contribute since the subjects that interest(ed) me are very rarely mentioned.

To all my good cyber friends: I wish you all the best and shall miss you greatly because you have been part of my daily life for so long.

To Rick, my enthusiastic thanks for creating this site, especially this forum, and I am sure your plans for the future will be highly successful.

To Khan, thanks for always being there for us and especially for your help in keeping this forum as civilized as it is. This is no small feat. I have been a member of news groups and forums for 21 years and always moved on because of testosterone laden males who made it their life's goal to try to out-insult (flame) each other.

So, a fond thanks PU participants and Khan for showing more class than is often found in non-porn oriented groups. I am leaving with fond memories this time. Three cheers for PU and all this site has meant to me over the years!


09-17-13  10:00pm - 4114 days #25
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I would like every fair minded person to go to the latest review of "Nubiles" to read my comments. There is a misunderstanding of some sort here. If the above poster felt slighted by them, then my sincere apologies. His was an excellent review.

09-17-13  11:24am - 4114 days #17
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Originally Posted by Capn:


If I come across a known favourite performer & she is doing something I don't care for, I stop looking & put it out of my mind.

That way I can still enjoy the good on topic material of her.

After all it is all fantasy for us end-users!

Cap'n.


Wish I could do that Cap'n. The fantasy is destroyed for me the moment she moves on to hardcore. This definitely influences my enjoyment of all her previous sets.

09-15-13  03:28pm - 4116 days #13
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Turboshaft wrote: "That being said there's something about a performer, rather than a site, that does a little something different outside her usual repertoire of debauchery. Watch a girl do nothing but solo or girl-girl scenes for long enough and then one day find that she's performed a crazy boy-girl anal scene and you'll feel like you've uncovered cold fusion. I guess there's something to be said for that moment when you realize your favorite actress, who always held a special, somewhat innocent place in your heart, actually knows her way around a big hard cock."

For me it is just the opposite, turbo. I have deleted many sets of favorite models just because they eventually decided to go hardcore (b/g.) It was my idealized image of them that took a hit and I could never look at them in the same way again.

That's because, in my mind, there is a class system when it comes to commercial sex, even though I know that in many cases the lines are blurred.

The number one spot is taken by: Models (softcore, amateur pro), followed by Escorts / Strippers, then by porn hardcore performers, and finally by Streetwalkers, and if my model tumbles from top spot on the ladder into number three spot .. that's a degrading demotion!

Since I frequently look at the "degrading" stuff myself, please don't consider my arbitrary status ladder to be an insult to your favorite porn star. It's just that in formerly softcore solo picture sites the b/g now present is wildly out of place.

Let me stress, as always, that my opinion is highly subjective and that I am not necessarily right! It's just the way I feel about the whole thing.

09-14-13  02:16pm - 4117 days #5
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


In my experience lots of sites have at least tried going more hardcore because the market was rough (and still isn't that much better) and they feel they have to to make sales. Some of the other webmasters I've spoken to about it have said they had to do that or go bust. It wasn't an artistic decision, they felt they were forced into it by the market.

Personally I won't take my sites that way. If I don't enjoy the content, my customers will soon realise it. It would just ruin the experience for everyone.


Thanks for the view from the other side, Ed. I've always wondered how much these sites really gain, though, and would love to see some statistics on that. For every hardcore lover they gain they must be losing people like the cap'n or myself. And thanks for sticking to your guns, that's really refreshing to see.

09-14-13  12:07pm - 4117 days #41
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I hooted when I first saw her angry post about her 50 year old boyfriend and how he was starting to neglect her and preferred sitting by the pool .. right after she had sung the praises of older men - younger women relationships. Which confirms my view that maybe you had best stick with a partner a bit closer to your own age. At fifty you are starting to lag a bit and will find it a bit hard to keep up with a 31 year old. Of course, there is the rare exception to this.

09-14-13  10:39am - 4117 days Original Post - #1
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With that I mean picture sites that were mostly solo originally but have gradually given in to demands to add more hardcore material like b/g or g/g.

Here is my problem: I looked at all the solo girls as "models," maybe they were exhibitionists at heart, maybe they did it as a one time thing to help them get through college. Maybe they were mature women who decided "Man, I am bored with being a vanilla person .. I want to do something different, shocking, for a change" ... well, you know what I mean.

Who knows the reason why a girl/woman ends up doing a photo set or two? In any case, bottom line: they were basically daring and teasing amateurs in my eyes.

Now this same "amateur" model does a b/g set and all of a sudden this bold girl/woman next door reveals herself to be nothing but a sex worker. And her value diminishes dramatically in my eyes because it brings home an inescapable (but mostly denied by me) fact: that she is prostituting herself for some cash.

I am not knocking prostitutes, I have downloaded their scenes at VideoBox and Videosz, but to see my lovely solo models clearly revealing what they really are all about, that is a huge disappointment ... and that is why I hate b/g material creeping into formerly straight solo sites. And wish that those who like hardcore would stop clamoring for b/g and simply stick to the thousands of sites that already give them what they want.

End of rant,

m.

09-07-13  10:29am - 4124 days #5
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Man, I am so sorry, graymane. A horror like that in your youth could really mess you up for life. I don't know about antidepressants but I do know that one or more of my medications is definitely messing around with my libido. I don't like it but rather that than constant pain.

09-04-13  01:32pm - 4127 days #10
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Hmm well sir, let me say, twas my list on appreciation hehe.
Not PU's list of appreciation.
And your knowledge far exceeds mine time and time again in a posts when it comes to porn. Because I think I know something and you and others pipe in and I go ...... oh yea.

I don't take compliments well either Messmer.
But no take backs. See you not taking the compliment makes me even dumber because if I put your knowledge above mine and you want to drop it that in turn drops me. So figure it this way you help me keep my dignity !


You have a way with words, CT. But now I'm getting even by making YOU blush: I nominate you as the one who does the most to keep this group going and sincerely thank you for it!!

09-04-13  10:55am - 4127 days #7
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I have to say that this site would not be the same without the people I know when I come here.
That Graymane, Messmer and Pat are as to porn knowledge as to what Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Hendrix, and Pete Townshend are to guitar playing.

I tilt my lilly pad to you guys for always sharing such insight.

Riding close behind are the likes of. In no particular order

Turboshaft
Capn
Drooler
lk2fireone
Denner
Wittyguy
PinkPanther
badandy400
rearadmiral
Toadsith
RagingBuddhist
jberryl69
TheSquirrel
Ed2009

You make the site worth coming back to day after day !


Thanks, CT, for putting me on top when it comes to porn knowledge. With thanks and a huge blush I must remove myself from that exalted position because I have next to no knowledge of porn compared to the rest of the good people on the list. Now when it comes to complaining about the new porn, then a top spot would be well deserved!!

09-03-13  11:07am - 4128 days #22
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I tried to keep out of this discussion because I despise anal but can't help but visualize the disastrous result of a surprise insertion in the wrong spot.

For one thing, the anal would be extremely painful if there had not been previous preparation with a lubricant, even if the partner took care of that aspect by liberally coating his penis with the stuff..

Two, this particular anal would most likely have a very unappetizing side effect (I'll let you use your imagination in connection with this one) that would turn any viewer totally off.

Let us remember that every porn star that moans in ecstasy when going through the "thrill" of getting an anal has spent hour upon hour preparing herself through enemas. If a scene is too unrealistic, and this one is, it simply won't work. Edited on Sep 03, 2013, 08:36pm

09-02-13  11:36am - 4129 days #4
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Originally Posted by Marphel:


Is it incompetence or is it intentional?

For some time now I have been wrestling with this question.
Every time I watch a porn video or sort through a photo set, I agonize over the failure of the cameraman and/or director to seize the moment and present the female performer(s) at their best. For example, when I see a gorgeous female performer beautifully made-up and styled, perfectly dressed or costumed on a nice set or good location I get excited. But that excitement quickly turns to disappointment when its all wasted or all gone 30 seconds into the video or 3 images into the photo set. Why go to so much trouble of model/actress selection, makeup and styling, wardrobe decisions, set building or location choices if it's all going to be wasted or discarded so quickly? Is it incompetence on the part of the cameraman/director? Do they not see the wasted opportunities? Or is it intentional? Just the way they want to present it?


This has been my chronic complaint, as anyone in this forum can tell you. I have given up on picture sites because all of them have been doing that. A handful of pictures fully dressed, and after that the model gets quickly down to the business of being naked and spread. I think that those photographers are very much in tune with their younger users who can't wait to get to the "good stuff," but to most of us older subscribers the journey to full nudity is much more important for its tease and anticipation value.

Too bad more women are not interested in porn (and no wonder they aren't) because they are not impressed with what turns most young porn users on.

Every romantic book containing sex (and most of them do), written by a female author, invariably mentions how the heroine will dress in nice lacy, silky, sexy lingerie in order to make herself feel more sexy, as well as make herself even more appealing to her partner.

Yet, this is not reflected in most solo picture sites any longer. I think the modern young male has turned into a caveman who can't wait to rip off whatever few bits his female is wearing in order to get to the "important" stuff quicker.

This is evident when one looks at the photo sets and videos being offered at the moment. Sensuality has gone out the window in favor of raw sex.

08-31-13  02:12pm - 4131 days #10
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lk2fireone wrote: "The source added that all of the families of the executed appear to have been sent to prison camps under North Korea's barbaric principle of guilt by association."

It is exactly this brutal fact that keeps the populace in line. I am just writing this for those who keep asking, why don't they just rise up? They don't understand that someone's personal heroism might very well kill their whole family, and who wants to be responsible for that.

The North Korea problem will only be solved through outside intervention. It would help if China finally cut all ties with their "ally!"

08-24-13  12:25pm - 4138 days #14
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Question 1:

What is more important to you. Is it the content, the price, the billing company and or packages offered, or the general overall look of the site? Which will make you either not join a site, or be more inclined to do so?


First in importance would be the contents, of course. After that I would like to see the option of a non-recurring one month membership. In practice it isn't a big deal because I pick "recurring" and usually cancel shortly thereafter, without penalty, but I would prefer to have the non-recurring option (at the same price) so that I wouldn't have to worry about forgetting a cancellation.

08-24-13  12:16pm - 4138 days #32
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I don't know what to say to all this. I am careful about crosschecks (I agree they shouldn't be there in the first place,) I usually deal with reputable billers and have only been cheated once in six years. My last complaint was about Bang Bros. offering 1080p videos for download that couldn't be found anywhere on their site .. so false advertisement would be my beef.

Unrelated to the general beefs is my frustration that not more webmasters like Simarimas are looking in, and participating in this forum.

I sure would like to give some of them an earful about how their photographers have gone astray and have taken the eroticism out of their pictures by mostly presenting some cute little things who only wear three items, made mostly of denim, which is great for little girl lovers but not so great for aficionados of real women who know how to bring a gleam to their men's eyes by dressing alluringly. and repeated rant!

08-20-13  12:13pm - 4142 days #26
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Originally Posted by graymane:


For the record, I didn't post that about the guy to be a jerk. It was simply a dig because he posted the same thing on every thread of the page.
I was hoping to get an answer from him, but clearly his motive wasn't in the best interest of the forum.
I'm surprised that I didn't see something of a warning by Khan, Because I've seen him lean on these guys who do that in the past.


I expected to see him disabled long before this, gm!

08-20-13  12:07pm - 4142 days #33
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Depression? Oh yeah!
Surviving my mom's demise (to whom I was very close) was a father who's history of general meanness, physical and tortured mental abuse to his only child, was so bad my mom's side of the family refused any and all visitation or verbal communication us what-so-ever.
A worthless bum before he married my mom -- who, BTW, was fully responsible for his conversion that led to them amassing a respectable sum of money.
Frugal during his marriage to mom, he became a switch-hitter after she passed ... meaning which he went on a spending frenzy after discovering the delight his money could afford him with the approach of his new-found pleasures ...which included the company of beauties there-to-fore he'd never experienced.

His year 2001 passing, from complication bought on by Parkinson, a debilitating and later three year bedridden condition to which I was his caregiver 24-7, however never thwarted his interest in the ladies -- one of whom wiggled her way into becoming his bookkeeper, and the couple or more others who (like circling vultures), knowing about his hefty holdings and penchant for wielding a check-book, visited him from time to time just to stay in his good graces.

OH YES, we were talking about my depression!

Upon the reading of his will -- discovering his "praise the Lord" self proclaimed Christian bookkeeper was instrumental in diverting his entire estate to her ...... leaving his war-torn, caregiver son with an infinitesimal fraction of the bulk of his estate.
So, not only was I bilked out of my inheritance of probably over a million dollars, I was further given notice I had thirty days to leave our palatial home. She had already put it on the market.

Oh, one more thing ......
Unbelievable as it may seem -- but I swear its the truth:
After three months wearing a cumbersum neck collar and my neck fresh into the healing process; And finally given the green light to drive .......

For the first time in my life, at 9:00 pm on the 5th of August, my car was rear-ended ... giving me a whiplash that conceivably may send me back to the hospital to go through the same ordeal.

As I'm now about to get out of my chair, after the long seating to write this.... the first thing I'm doing is reach for my neck collar. something I now need but normally wouldn't be necessary and abandoned.

My lovely primary-care physician tells me I'm depressed and wants to prescribe some moodie pills.

Me, depressed? why would she think that?



Graymane, my friend, the things that happened to you are like things that happen in horror movies or books. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy! For once I am extending a manly hug of sympathy to a member of my own sex! You not only had a terrible operation and its painful consequences but also an unimaginably hurtful life. Your cynicism threshold must be awfully high because you come across as a very positive and caring person who always gives others a little boost in his posts. I always thought that Nietzsche's: whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger was a bit of a platitude and not applicable in my case but maybe it was true in yours.

08-19-13  11:49am - 4143 days #21
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I wish I could get on board, but I can't on this for now.
Just my nature to be suspicious of things like this.
I am hoping I am proven wrong on this, but for now its not passing the taste test for me, but I am always the black sheep in these forums .


It was sarcasm on gm's part, CT.

08-19-13  11:45am - 4143 days #30
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Not to minimize your cervical problem, my good man, but let me say what I had done was about as aggressively invasive as it gets. It's termed as major surgery with a nine-plus on a scale from one to ten in rank. post surgical expectation of complications ranks way-up there. I should know, because it awarded me a massive life-threating blood clot in my left leg ... as well as the onset of unrelenting and severe lower back pain.

Called "Cervical stenosis" mine was a degenerative disease where the spinal canal and neural framing narrow and compress the spinal cord and nerve roots.
Wherein my spine was actually sawed through and metal replacing and supporting the damaged area (a six hour procedure) In contras I'm guessing your neck situation is a classic cervical condition (common to the elderly) where nerves are being crunched from bone loss -- requiring simply replacing the vacancy with bone from another source, wherein it roots into permanently becoming that missing part -- taking pressure off the effective nerves.
From what I hear, bone taken from the hip presents more pain than one experiences from the actual implant.
But hear this ....Now, one can forego going to the hip by getting a compatible match from a bone bank.

From what you've related already, it appears to me you have a dammed good surgeon. By that I mean (contrary to my case) he's completely up front with the good-bad-an-the-ugly......... the guy who took me on said only I would have some pain. It's clear to me he wanted to go right in. Maybe it's the $50,000.00 plus I suspect he'll pocket from my insurer.


Man, all I can say is that my troubles are as nothing compared to yours and I can only sympathize from the heart. Your story sounds absolutely horrible. If this happened to me it would depress the hell out of me. As to my surgeon: Canada's universal health care system (as shaky as it is at the moment) took care of the greed factor and has given us priceless peace of mind. My wife has been chronically ill for years and the only expense we've had after all her operations and treatments is the medications.

08-19-13  11:36am - 4143 days #35
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Rick, in a way I am looking forward to what the future brings but am afraid that the black background will do me in because, in sites that use a similar scheme (Kink.com etc.) I find it terribly difficult to read their descriptions, especially if they are in red or green. There's no threat of leaving a sinking ship here, just concern that I won't be able to enjoy the new things you have to offer.

08-18-13  02:05pm - 4144 days #3
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Pat wrote: "I'm glad she thinks female porn performers are empowered because the reality is quite the opposite. Many of them are slave to their boyfriend/suitcase pimp while others do it to fund their drug and alcohol dependence."

If that is the reality, Pat, then I am done with hardcore porn for good! I'm not going to be a willing collaborator to exploitation. Man, I am so naive, for someone so old. No wonder I always liked soft core, solo sites better. I am willing to bet that most of those models do it willingly and without the help of drugs or pimps.

08-18-13  01:49pm - 4144 days #1179
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^I have no clue because I never watched it. I know that director is not the same as the other movies so that's a plus. He was the writer for the other movie so that could be a plus as well. I recommend you read a couple of the negative reviews on Rotten tomatoes as this is where you will read any comments on the shaky cam issue.


Good idea, Pat. Thanks.

P.S. Just came back from Rotten Tomatoes and this is what I read in the very first review I looked at: "If you’re here for some Greengrassian shakey-cam action and some quick-thinking hand-to-hand combat however, you won’t be disappointed."

PASS!!!! Edited on Aug 18, 2013, 01:59pm

08-18-13  12:15pm - 4144 days #27
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Thanks for the kind words, Partner. The way I see it, you and I seemingly being the oldest perverts around here, an' all .....it only makes sense we stick together.

And yeah, this cervical surgery I recently had, having left me in a world of pain, and what with the hardware replacing a section of my spine consisting of nothing but wires, rods, nuts, bolts and screws, supposedly to prevent my head from rolling off my shoulders, actually, feeling night and day its going to do just that.
And if that isn't bad enough, my surgeon has a bedside manner that gives new meaning to arrogance, as well as heavily overdosed with Delusions of Grandeur.

So, With one foot in a grave and the other on a banana peel, it follows inasmuch as no one in my sehere of friends or relatives are about to log onto Porn Users to inform them of a sudden demise, I've asked Khan that should my activity in this site stop long enough to leave no doubt of my return ..... then it can mean only one thing, that I'll likely be in the company of previous earthly perverts on the other side.


Man, I can't begin to tell you how sorry I am about all the misery you've had to go through. I suppose I will have to face the same thing sooner or later if I live long enough. I have had a narrowing disk in my neck for years that has caused me a lot of pain and misery but after a visit to a neurologist who told me:

"Well, we'll have to enlarge the opening to give more room to the nerves going through, then we'll have to take a piece of bone from your hip to fuse it with the disk .. that might do it."
Then his parting words of wisdom: "Of course, there's no guarantee!!!!????"

So I asked him, "what's my second option" and he said "pain relievers" and that's what I have been taking for the past 30 years! Sometimes they help, sometimes they don't, but better than his scenario. At least until I get to a point where paralysis becomes a possibility because the narrowing disk now chokes the bundle of nerves going through it. Aaaah, life!!

08-18-13  11:50am - 4144 days #1177
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Has anyone seen "The Bourne Legacy?" I have been hesitant to record it on my DVR because the last two Bourne movies were filmed with the infamous shaky camera that is supposed to create more immediacy. Both my wife and I were severely disappointed after having raved over "The Bourne Identity." Please tell me ... no shaky camera in this one!

08-18-13  11:36am - 4144 days #18
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Originally Posted by Rick:


I definitely understand the criticisms and in a perfect world of change, it would be great if everything merged smoothly from the old to the new. In fact, out of the gate everything was designed and branded still under pornusers.com. However as development evolved, so did the reality that a new beginning was necessary. This wasn't just a version update.

We all admit our current sites have become somewhat boring and stale. That's absolutely my fault. No regrets though, I needed a break from the business. I really do hope everyone looks at the new sites as a positive. I value you guys more than anyone, which is why it's important to share these with u first.


I only hope you take another good look at the background, Rick. It looks smart and modern but is hell on the eyes for anyone over forty, fifty? I find it very difficult to read. White on black is just bearable, but any other colors (green, red) on black are a horrible eye strain for us old timers. I'm afraid I would have to drop out for that reason but understand that you have to do what you feel you have to do.

08-17-13  11:12am - 4145 days #24
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Rotten tomatoes if you're lucky!



08-16-13  11:55pm - 4146 days #20
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Commendable observation, Sir messmer.
So Again .....
You are, indeed, entirely correct at being correct.

Allow me, if you will, my good man, joining thee to cease and decease the ill-defined word "flagrantly" as it has to do with an ill-fated attempt to vent our concerns of your recent absence by injecting some drama where it's now proven not to fit
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I suspect the word unthinkingly materialized out of an unsettled feeling concerning your current inactivity, the consequences of which we who know you being rendered a blow more felt than we care to admit.


I know how you feel, friend. It is the same unsettled feeling I get when I don't see your name for a while. I am also terribly sorry about the misery you've gone through in the recent past. Hope you are feeling a bit better. The golden age isn't what it is cracked up to be!

08-16-13  11:55am - 4146 days #3
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Nailed it............CLINICAL .
Thats the best word to explain it. I think as a society we are becoming allot like this. We live in a world where at an accident some will grab the video camera first then call 911 so they don't miss a shot.

If it were me being older I blame video games.

They make guns fun and they are serious business people blame the NRA. The NRA did not make taking a life a game. Game makers have blurred the lines of children.
They make hiding away in your room socially acceptable for our kids. These games teach stealing from others is ok, and you take Saints Row or GTA games and they glorify crime and drugs and prostitution and killing is just a way of life in a game.

It is no wonder the soft, sensual adult porn, has turned so much as now little Johny is staying up watching porn on the computer and his first exposure is not a sexxy playboy admiring the human body. Its a lady bent over a couch and man pulling her hair shoving his 12" cock in her ass.

You take Gun, games, and sex and they all have exploded do to societies inability to keep reality.....reality.
Ive said before Gun are not bad, neither are video games or porn. However they all can ruin a life and also change your mental perspective. a man with a gun can kill in real life, but he can get extra point and a free motorcycle if 12 year old jimmy kills that man running the pawn shop in Saints Row video game. He can grab a few hookers get a blow job and have sex if he kills even more and robs more.

Is it any wonder we have a society confused with gun, games and sex ? 30 years ago there was no gun control persay, their was playboy and penthouse and Pacman, Asteroids and Pong.
Life was good violence was low in all areas of guns, games and sex. There is one source that teaches that sex, gun and game violence is ok and thats game manufactures that condition children to say killing, robbing and raping is ok, and tells them real sex is a guy with a cock in a womens ass.

No wonder as a world we are fucked up, nothing is the way it was and everything has changed to make us less sensitive to how we teach our children. We teach them Games are fun even if they kill, steal and rape, we teach them guns are fun in games. We teach them sex has no foreplay in real life we teach them women want it rough and dirty and facials.

Why is it like this? I think we as a nation desenitised our youth through 20+ making violence as a who acceptable.
Just look how the youth treat our elderly and authority.
How there is no family time, just dad in the basement with porn, and little Jimmy learning he can waste a whole street of people on Saint Row with his AK47 and sadly every gun in every game is an automatic, when it is illegal and impossible to even get an automatic yet that all you hear in the news. There is something to be said when in the 1990's congress said Grand Theft Auto was too violent. And we ignored those signs. Now we have a nation that does not respect women, or each other.

My Rant !


Nice rant, CT. I would slightly disagree about some of the causes for today's state of Western Culture but you might be right to a degree that all the things you mentioned contributed to it.

My, not infallible, view on the state of porn is that a whole generation of very young people gained access to it in their early and mid-teens, thanks to the internet, and that, over a period of time, they became more and more desensitized and now demand their fix raw and immediate.

There are other cultural factors at work of course, as you pointed out. My explanation is no doubt subjective and only addresses part of the whole problem.

As in, where were the parents when the kids looked at porn? Where were they when the youngsters were learning how to steal cars in their video games?

There's been a wholesale destruction of the Middle Class and both parents are practically forced to work in order to maintain a reasonable standard of living, creating millions of latch key kids. And then there are others who just plain don't care and their sons pick gangs and guns for security, since it is lacking at home. And on and on!

None of these things are conducive to a kinder and gentler and more sensuous way of living ... or porn. And that's my rant of the day.

08-16-13  11:30am - 4146 days #16
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Another timely thread from the master.......
From which I hardily applaud those who're in steadfast agreement with this sagely, important message... And one who fiercely echoes the mournful plea from all who're in harmony with what you're so valiantly keeping alive commencing with reminders relative to this unattended yet vital requisite.

Speaking of echoes, I couldn't resound one any louder than these coming from posts featured herein by PU's grand consummate of eloquence ...... our inimitable messmer.

Also, I might add, flagrant absentee and abusive practitioner of periodic stints of AWOL and isolation unbecoming a PU Award holder..


LOL. Thanks for the compliment, graymane. However, I am never "flagrantly absent." I am always here, every day. But the subject has to be of interest to me before I put my two cents worth of opinion in. I could treat you to a daily post on how there should be more sites with mature women shedding their clothes slowly, revealing erotic lingerie in the process of getting nude .. but then the crowd would start throwing rotten tomatoes at me. But, thanks friend for noticing my periodic absences. I am touched! Truly!

08-15-13  11:06pm - 4147 days Original Post - #1
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I was waiting with bated breath for my dream offer for months. Finally it arrived by email about a month ago: Nubiles and Anilos, two for the price of one! And found to my shock that I no longer cared. Anyone else feel that their tastes all of a sudden belong to yesterday. Whatever happened to erotic lingerie and women slowly stripping. It's all become so clinical and boring.

08-15-13  10:51pm - 4147 days #12
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I agree with you guys and I wish we'd see more of that but sadly we live in an era when a woman like Bonnie Rotten is considered the epitome of beauty in porn. She has a very beautiful face but you are either a die hard tattoo fan or you are blind if you think the rest of her body is remotely close to beautiful. How can you expect anyone to bother with stripping and teasing when all the studios want to hire her to get fucked in every orifice her body has.


I've never heard of Bonnie Rotten, Pat. What sites does she appear in? Just curious.

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