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01-19-14  10:47am - 3990 days #10
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


There have been any great softcore semi-nude famous models that turned to porn and their careers ended.

THere were many Girl next door ones that guys drooled to get a nip or ass shot. They then went nude and were never heard of.

In porn there is no going back, it clear you jump over the proverbial porn fence often at the peril of your adult career,
Then some jump and become famous, but odds are stacked against it.


Well, that's an unexpected angle to the story, CT. I had no idea that turning progressively "harder" could actually end a model's career. Learn something new every day.

01-19-14  10:43am - 3990 days #55
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Just had to post this after admiring your other photos.




Now make that a full figure shot and that picture has my vote!

01-19-14  10:40am - 3990 days #12
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Originally Posted by elephant:


But yeah tastes, mine certainly do but one thing I will always hate and to be honest really cannot believe the amount of American girls who look so unbelievably gorgeous and they go and ruin it by having these hideous tattoos, well for me they ruin it, I know some people must like them, I really don't get what is good about them at all an never will. But it does effect it if I favorite a girl, very few tat honeys on my list.

Oh and another thing I don't quite understand with American girls, is having a big booty and how women with huge butts are more favored. I have to say, its not my thing at all.


Tattoos don't bother me half as much as those so-called "enhanced" breasts. You see them mostly in American models and I despise them. Any set or video that features enhanced automatically will get a one out of five or even ten from me, no matter how pretty the face or rest of the figure may be.

01-19-14  10:32am - 3990 days #30
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Yea, I agree, people are angry, rude and often just don't give a shit about their fellow man/woman.
Very hard at times to grow up in a polite country where we respected our elders, and held doors open and said please and thank you. Thats why I like my adult material especially the intimate stuff and stripping why rare, gives a soft sexy look that is slowly being taken over by POV shots of labias for 20 minutes no face not body just pussy play . Oh well guess I have said enough on this.


Can't argue with that statement, CT!

01-18-14  11:05am - 3991 days #27
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Life was so easy back in 1979.
You could own a gun and people didn't freak out, you could by a playboy and it was fun not dirty. You could go to bars to hang out with friends and not be considered a drunk.

You could rob a liquor store and keep the money, lol ok not the last one seeing who is paying attention.

Some good stuff has occured but seems we are making problems where there are none. Guns, booze and porn have been around hundreds of years together living fine. Then everyone wants to regulate and criminalize what good people do. And not stop the bad people.

The people whom deal in human trafficking,sell and use drugs and run illegal arms, all occur with little sins of ending. And laws never stop the bad guys.

Kinda like in South Cal, the who condom thing, whose business is it ? Its not the governments right to pry into my life.

PS I brought the booze thing as they are now considering changing regulations on alcohol consumption, and also how you protest against law makers is in the lawmaker hands as we speak. As I have said you regulate one Right, and you open the flood gates. I do doubt porn will be open as it is. just too much going on to leave it out of the playing field,


I think one of the big reasons why Government tends to intervene more than in previous decades is because our society has turned angry, confrontational, lawless (look at all the cases of road rage, mass shootings, bullying (cyber- and otherwise). The reason? Who knows? Some blame the Internet and applications (phones etc.) that allow you to be your nasty self anonymously and the fact that you are no longer interacting with your fellow man in person.

Is it any wonder (to touch upon one of your favorite subjects) that in the light of all those senseless mass killings in movie theaters, schools etc., governments are tempted to impose stricter controls? And, of course, Governments being governments they do tend to get carried away with their righteous causes. Good thing we get to vote every 4 (in your case), 5 years.

01-17-14  03:00pm - 3992 days #3
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Originally Posted by FibiLove Co:


You have gotten used to that level of beauty, there is nothing special about them anymore.
Seems like you are starting to acquire more exquisite tastes. I deleted a tonne of pics I had because the girls just don't look as good as I once thought they did.


I think you hit the nail right on the head, FL, because I did the same thing:

"What did I ever see in HER? Delete!" and that particular model was slumbering in a folder called "Favorites!"

01-17-14  02:45pm - 3992 days #50
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Just another voice telling you how much I enjoy your blog, JB!

01-17-14  02:37pm - 3992 days #25
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


We had a similar topic not to long ago, where I hate to be the I told you so guy LOL.

But once we start taking away rights whether you agree personally with those rights or not. But once you allow it, other rights will follow.

I am not going to rehash the topic, but lets just use the word ban, and Constitution. Once you get on the band wagon to allow the government to edit your rights it will not be long until what we have here getting into our bedrooms.
We as citizens of any country need to not ever allow our governments to remove rights.

If we continue to allow any rights removed then we deserve whats left. I see a day when Porn will outlawed and ISP fined for allowing it if we do not say no to allowing the governments to strip our rights, EVEN if you do not agree with the right allowing it sets precedence to go hog wild.

Our freedom of speech could be next possibly and my post would be banned LOLOL.



We had a Prime Minister in Canada (Pierre Elliot Trudeau) some time ago who stated quite firmly: "The State has no business in the bedrooms of a nation!" No one, since then, has tried (at least overtly) to contradict him. Sure hope it stays this way. And it's good to see you again!

01-17-14  02:26pm - 3992 days #18
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Originally Posted by biker:


You never know what tasty treat is waiting for you on Adult Friend Finder.

Sorry. Couldn't contain myself.

I have been riddled by AFF on and off for years. I'm surprised you have just seen them.

When I was saturated with popups it wasn't just porn. The popups wanted me to buy anything from TV's to toilet paper or the "You're the Lucky Winner".


Oh yeah!! The "lucky winner" is huge at the moment. It seems every time I open an old familiar site I am a lucky winner if only I complete a survey!!! Now if only someone could tell me how to turn the darn things off. It never happened with Windows 7.

01-17-14  01:24pm - 3992 days Original Post - #1
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... but I find that most models in my formerly favorite softcore sites (Anilos, All Over 30, ATK Aunt Judy, ATK Natural & Hairy)are not as beautiful as they used to be? Am I jaded, a natural born whiner, or is there something to my observation?

01-17-14  01:18pm - 3992 days #16
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Originally Posted by biker:


I was getting a lot of popups on my old XP and the final solution was returning to my default settings on my Mazilla Firefox. I don't know why they started and they came from every direction faster then I could close them. I tried everything until changing to default cured it.


In the Firefox I downloaded for Windows 8.1 "block pop-ups" was set as the default. I started doing some house cleaning by removing all extraneous stuff that came with my HP desktop. Maybe that will help!

Help! Adult Friend Finder is, all of a sudden, following me from site to site! Even this one! I scanned my computer just a couple of minutes ago and it didn't find any little bots that could give me a hard time. How did I acquire this site? I've never gone there .. ever. Edited on Jan 17, 2014, 01:28pm

01-17-14  01:14pm - 3992 days #15
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I figure everyone by now knows the Microcrap Rule: Only every other operating system works well. Windows 95 was great / Windows 98 only so-so - XP was awesome / Vista, well we know how that turned out - Windows 7 (which I use) works well / Windows 8 .... you know the rest.

I also don't really understand why HP does all this crap to their computers. I also got an HP laptop and it came loaded with a bunch of worthless programs that just generated popups and demands for updates. If you're completely clueless about computers this software might have some value but if you're just trying to get stuff done with real software then it's pointless. Like Exotics I just deleted the HP stuff or permanently shut it down and made my life easier.


I agree. At the moment I am in the process of removing all unnecessary HP programs and trial ware!

01-17-14  11:46am - 3992 days #12
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


I use Firefox and an addon I found called NoScript. While it really helps in limiting popups, it isn't seamless and takes a bit of managing, it's the best I've found for controlling crap - especially if I go to a squishy site I've not visited before and protects me from them running vicious scripts up my computer's ass.

This is not an unconditional recommendation - you can try it out and see if you are okay with it. Freeware with begging.


I used "noscript" in my previous computer, JB, but could not get myself to like it. It limited the enjoyment of my browsing too much.

01-17-14  11:45am - 3992 days #11
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Originally Posted by wackyphill:


I use Windows 8 (Now on 8.1) and it works great. Popups have nothing to do with Windows, they would be from other software on your PC.

You can upgrade to Windows 8.1 for free and boot directly to the Desktop bypassing the start menu screen entirely if it bothers you.


How do you boot directly to the Desk top? I do have Windows 8.1, it came pre-installed. Thanks. I have another question directed to you and other knowledgeable PUs: Is "Windows Defender" sufficient when it comes to protection or should I download AVG (or Norton etc.) again.

01-17-14  11:39am - 3992 days #10
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


I have Windows 8 too. Absolutely despise it. The first day I used it, I said this at least 30 times, "Where is the damn start button?" I didn't get the touchscreen laptop though, same reasons as JB. Wait until you get the 8.1 update. It leads to more frustration, "Oh there's the start button just when I was getting used to not having a start button".

Really, I'm being a bit hard on it. It is fast though I hate the "apps".

On the ads, I really don't know off the top of my head. I had a lot of HP pop-up crap when I first got it, so I just removed all the HP software from the hard drive and fixed that, but I then started getting more pop-ups that included surveys. Found that problem was caused by a software called "Relevant Knowledge". Which I guess came installed on my laptop. Have you downloaded anything from CNet downloads? I download a lot of software from them and they've for whatever reason (money), decided to put extra software in the package you download and are using porn site level trickery to get you to install those other software programs.

For example, I downloaded a music editing software from CNet, it came with an installer. When I opened it, it said, Basic installation (recommended)
Custom intallation

I clicked custom which let me deselect a box that said, "Allow toolbar and search to be changed" or something like that. So I got around step one of the trickery. Then step 2 popped up, "Would you like to install something something candy". This is where the frustration came in. At the bottom, the only choices are "Accept" and "Decline". Traditionally when you click decline when setting up a new software it means you don't want the software and installation stops. In this case, clicking decline just meant I didn't want this advertised software and let me move on to step 3 which was once again an offer of another software. I believe I had to click decline 4 times before it finally installed the software I had downloaded.

I mention this possibility since you got a new computer and I know when I get a new computer, I have to start putting media players, music editors and so on, on it and thought maybe they had tricked you. I wouldn't think that if it hadn't happened to me 2 times.

I ran malewarebytes (free) and it found several "pup" software programs. Once those were removed the ads stopped. Though it also could be something the maker of the computer put on it at the factory. Check your control panel and see if anything possibly unwanted is installed.


Thanks, exotics. I uninstalled most HP (not needed) software and am getting far fewer pop-ups. I am going to check to see how many more programmes I can find that might contribute to the problem. I have Windows 8.1. It came pre-installed. What a learning curve if you don't believe in reading owners' manuals. There is nothing intuitive about this OS!!

01-17-14  11:32am - 3992 days #8
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I am still of the same opinion I was when you last posted on this issue.

I do appreciate you may find it difficult or impossible, but personally, I have no issue in focussing solely on the work at hand.
It is how well the model performs in the current photoset / video that concerns me.
What she does before or after is of no consequence for me &
I would not let it destroy my enjoyment of her.

Cap'n.


I know you and I feel differently when it comes to this subject, Cap'n, but here again is the reason why it is such a big deal to me:

"There goes the illusion of an amateur housewife doing something shocking on a temporary basis. Now she is a paid pro."

It's my fault, I shouldn't get carried away with illusions when it comes to soft porn.

01-16-14  06:53pm - 3993 days #3
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Originally Posted by gaypornolover:


Took a break from PU for a few months - disabled my account and wasn't expecting to come back... had an issue with the site which I won't go into here but which has been resolved to my satisfaction.

Anyway I missed you guys too much and just wanted to say hi x


Glad to see you back, GPL!

01-16-14  06:51pm - 3993 days #5
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


No! I refuse to touch my screen - it's filthy!!


How come? Or dare I ask, JB?

01-16-14  06:49pm - 3993 days #4
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Originally Posted by graymane:


No, brother ...... but keep us posted on further problems you might incur so some others of us will stay with what they have.


Believe me, I did NOT want Windows 8 but that's all they had in the store. I don't know if it's a new Windows default or not but I am really being bombarded by ads ... and by reputable companies (Amazon etc.) too. It seems that all of them not only by-pass Firefox' attempts to control them but they even pop up on my desk top if it is idle for a few moments. I have tried to find something under the Windows 8 defaults but haven't found it yet. Oh, well, they seem harmless enough, just a nuisance.

01-16-14  06:43pm - 3993 days #4
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Damned, Mess ..... you pulled my exact same thoughts right out of the vacant cavity between my ears.
Yes... what you're saying will get to you! especially those of us who are so drawn to the strikingly rare innocence of a young beginner whom we've been privy only to viewing skin reaching the boundaries of the taboo, flaunting those stunning features in erotic actions and the kind of creative attire that keeps us begging for more.

we follow her as she gathers more and more attention before many of her fans are making waves of bolder substance that's washing up on the decks of the studio paying her bills.
We'll never know the immense pressure put on these girls to give in ...... even if her private part's exposure is slow and only progressively spoon-fed to us in small increments, the finality is inevitable and only a question of time ....... and as jberry put it, (only in his unique way) It's all in following the money.


Afraid both you and JB are right, graymane. The majority of Porn Users seem to like the progression from soft to hard otherwise all my favorite models wouldn't choose that path. Follow the money is exactly what it's all about.

01-16-14  01:44pm - 3993 days Original Post - #1
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I just bought a new computer with Windows 8 as the operating system and am being swamped by pop ups even though Firefox is configured to stop all of them. Anyone have similar problems and how did you get rid of them?

01-16-14  01:11pm - 3993 days Original Post - #1
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... in a solo model from relative innocence to prostitute. I know that there are many people who like to see their model get progressively bolder and "harder" but, for me, it is a real turn off to see a favorite going from showing a bit of pink to a blow job. The latest one is Sally T. (All Over 30)

I honestly can no longer enjoy her previous sets knowing that she ends up doing hardcore. There goes the illusion of an amateur housewife doing something shocking on a temporary basis. Now she is a paid pro.

Don't mind me and don't bother answering .. I know I've voiced this complaint before but SALLY T??? It was bad enough to see Annabelle Brady turn pro.

01-11-14  11:00pm - 3997 days #31
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Hey, CT, welcome back, old pal! Good to see your name in this forum again!

01-11-14  02:56pm - 3998 days #6
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Originally Posted by FibiLove Co:


The idea would work well if you are in the business of selling good suspense thrillers. Where you would get someone really interested and then leave them hanging wherein they would definitely want to see the end.

You are trying to sell something to someone who is not interested in paying no matter what. The people who pay for porn don't need to see half a movie to know if the quality is good, I think snippets from different sections would work just fine.

There is no need to give away more content to try to lure people who like free content. They just don't believe they should pay and that won't change.


Re. your last paragraph. Any sample could be streaming only and wouldn't encourage anyone but the most determined freeloaders!

01-11-14  12:32pm - 3998 days #3
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Looks just about right, Rick. Half a movie would be enough to give us a good idea as to quality. I would suggest that the half always start from the beginning because I like to see the leading up to the action and how much of that is in the movie. If they jump right into the action I usually don't bother with the video.

Same as to the galleries. To me 10 free full size images would be enough but please don't let the advertised site start in the middle or toward the end. To me it is important to see how much and what the model is wearing at the very beginning of a set.

Personal preference only!

01-09-14  06:03pm - 4000 days #21
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Originally Posted by Capn:


So far as I am concerned, the biggest hit was the change of emphasis.

Inflating the price dramatically just added a few nails to its coffin, so far as I am concerned.

Cap'n.


I would love to see the statistics as to their user base before the switch and after, Cap'n. It must have looked to them, maybe by measuring downloads, maybe by the enthusiastic approval and pressure tactics of "hairy-all-over" fans, that the switch would gain them more customers if they made the site a true fetish site. That's why I am torn about which of my two theories is the right one.

m. still in

01-09-14  02:07pm - 4000 days #19
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


That's odd for ATK, since their other (and considerably less hairy) sites still appear to be $30/month.

But shouldn't it be the opposite? Lower price because of money saved on shaving supplies, waxes, and laser treatments?


I only had two explanations as to why ATK's other sites are still $ 29.95:

One) The site is so popular since they made "extreme hairy" their policy they can afford to raise their price, or

Two) The site lost so many subscribers since they switched to "extreme hairy" that they had to up their prices to make any sort of a profit.

As someone who dislikes thick, coarse stubble on a woman's legs I hope it was the latter and that they will eventually switch back to a more moderate way of presenting natural women.

01-08-14  07:23pm - 4000 days #5
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Nice preview,Rick. I think it will turn into a very exciting site!

01-08-14  12:46pm - 4001 days #15
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


The only site I can think of above this is In The Crack, at $35/month...but maybe that's because it's Canadian.


Both "We Are Hairy" and ATK's "Natural And Hairy" have gone from $29.95 to $34.95 during the past couple of months. Possibly because it is getting harder to find hairy models these days.

01-06-14  06:49pm - 4003 days #22
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


You might possibly need to upgrade your video card, depending on the resolution of the monitor (higher with a bigger display size). In terms of what a monitor comes with, it's usually just cables--not necessarily the one you need, but more than likely it will--and possibly software on a CD or through the manufacturer's site, though you can ignore that (crapware).

Here's a site with a little more explanation. Your best bet will be to find out exactly what video card your computer currently has and the maximum resolution that it will display. In theory you would be able to display a lower resolution on a bigger display (if your video card can't handle its max resolution) but it would start to look shitty--essentially a "zoomed in" look where everything is bigger because of the bigger display space.


Thanks, turbo! I think my question might be solved some other way since the graphics are starting to act up on my present computer and I have never liked just having a graphics chip because I can't play most of the newer games with it, so sometime soon I am going to get me a power computer with a sizzling graphics card! I miss gaming!

01-06-14  06:41pm - 4003 days #17
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Yo. Mess ......
Remember Mistress Kent? masochism-oriented-webmistress entrepreneur.
Classy lady, smart, handled herself brilliantly amongst this male-heavy, sometimes self-proclaimed pervert oriented bunch.
I really miss her. I think she dumped porn and went into the music business.
Here's to you Lady-Kent .... wherever you are!


I sure do remember her, graymane! Classy is right .. she was a real asset to this forum and I missed her when she stopped posting.

01-05-14  01:09pm - 4004 days #13
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Without taking the time to dig through the archives here my memory tells me that few women posted here in the past only to be hit up with a bunch of members asking questions about the women. Nothing terribly sexist but definitely not overly welcoming either.


Well, since my memory is, without question, worse than yours, wittyguy, I am forced to concede!

m.

01-05-14  01:01pm - 4004 days #18
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Originally Posted by Micha:


messmer rote: Is there not a setting in your viewer that allows you to see the whole picture, no matter how many pixels?

Sure if the photo resides on my puter. I have that problem on individual websites when I click a thumbnail And get a huge image at 100%. I may have overstated the time it takes to scroll.


Sorry, Micha, just came across your reply. And you are right, of course, I was thinking of watching pictures on my computer but not at web sites where you indeed have to scroll quite often. Must try the viewer that comes with Windows 7, it never occured to me to use that one because I am so used to Irfanview and ACDsee before that.

01-05-14  12:54pm - 4004 days #17
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Just a short and possibly dumb question. I am tempted to buy a bigger monitor but have a low power computer with a built-in Intel Graphics chip. So the question is, do you need computer power (better graphics chip or card) for a larger monitor or does it come with the monitor?

01-01-14  12:18pm - 4008 days #7
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


In the past, the few members who at least claimed to be women and posted here in the forum pretty much got hit up with a lot of less than admirable responses to their postings. For whatever reason, a lot of guys seem to think that women in porn forums are fair game for a lot b.s. or unnecessary / unwanted attention.

It wouldn't shock me to know that there are a few women here who hide behind neutral or male sounding screen names. However, I suspect that vast majority of us are just dudes doing their thing ...


I agree that most porn lovers most likely are male, wittyguy, but I truly don't remember that any female that dared put her head in this forum was ever harassed in any way. I think most of them were treated the same as all the other members, that is with respect and courtesy (forgetting about a couple that got kicked out by Khan for being trolls).

01-01-14  12:12pm - 4008 days #5
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Thank you, Pat! Happy New Year to you and to our faithful porn users and staff! And I agree with your sentiments re. 2013's porn. It was a bad year, the industry was imitative and had run out of ideas. May cookie cutter porn be a thing of the past in 2014 (fat chance)!

12-27-13  12:00pm - 4013 days #4
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I use Irfanview myself and am quite happy with it. And as Pinkerton wrote, it's free!

12-19-13  01:26pm - 4021 days #2
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I guess nobody wants to confess to an Oedipus complex, js.
Don't give up on posting, though. The folks will be more receptive to other subjects.

12-18-13  11:59am - 4022 days #5
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What's DAMINGING?

12-15-13  03:44pm - 4025 days #57
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I don't mind the occasional zoomed in shot, but really for nearly all the shots, I would prefer to see most / all of the model.

Cap'n.


As usual, I'm with you, Cap'n!

BTW, Idiosyncratic, I know, but I really enjoy pictures where the model is standing, full frontal going from fully dressed to fully nude. Edited on Dec 15, 2013, 03:54pm

12-14-13  08:26pm - 4025 days #19
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


As a former professor of English, I can add my two cents. Waiting on is regional, mostly in the South but also heard in Black English. Waiting on is used to describe the work of waiters and waitresses in restaurants.

The same is true for pavement-heard in the South but not used by speakers of Standard American English. Americans drive on the road. Americans outside the South say sidewalk.

I also agree about the wrong word order that you hear on TV. The most common mistake is that time ideas MUST go either first or last. Frequently I hear time ideas in midsentence, which sounds very strange. For example, I will go tomorrow to the store. Another awkward construction that is very common is the order of direct and indirect objects. An example is give me it (wrong) and give it to me (correct).

Don't get me started on "alleged suspect" or "take a listen".


Thank you, MBaya, for giving me such a concise and helpful answer! Now I must go because another good book is waiting on me! Just joking, no arrogance intended!

12-14-13  08:17pm - 4025 days #18
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Okay, already ... I accept the consequences that I'm a die-in-the-wool, entrenched liar ... made up the whole thing, got caught, and now await whatever fate my opposition chooses to heap upon me.

But please, I prey thee with out-stretched open arms that I'm granted forgiveness, after which I promise never to launch into giving my opinion on another matter of this sort without factual infusion of solid confirmation from an undeniable and trustworthy source.



Relax,my brother,you are forgiven!

12-14-13  08:13pm - 4025 days #17
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A small correction: in Canada we drive in the street on the pavement, if it is paved!

12-14-13  08:11pm - 4025 days #16
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


It's an alternative to "for" in the sentence you noted.

It's not a Americanism; it shows up in a British (Oxford) dictionary as such an alternative.

It also shows up in a religious song, "Wait on the Lord," with the same idea of waiting for a desired change.

If you look around the web, you'll find other examples. Prepositions can be slippery little devils. Anyway, "on" works as well as "for" so long as the context makes the meaning clear.

I'm more appalled by talking heads on TV using the wrong word order in embedded questions, and using empty "happy talk" phrases like "moving forward" and "on the ground." (I doubt that anyone's going to advocate moving backward, and most things happen on the ground anyway, thanks to gravitational force.)

Anyway, Messmer, I hope I'm not reading any Canadian arrogance into this. I've got some experience with that.


Oh,Drooler, absolutely no arrogance behind this question. The only thing we are arrogant about is our universal health care system. I had truly never heard of "waiting on someone" in the sense of waiting for someone before, even when singing about waiting on The Lord my mind always took it to mean serving The Lord, so it was natural to wonder if it was an Americanism, without any slight intended. And I hate to think that any Canadians acted in arrogance toward you. My apologies on their behalf! Edited on Dec 14, 2013, 08:15pm

12-14-13  07:54pm - 4025 days #15
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Here's one that I've observed that's always intreged me"

US Southerner's call the under-structure of homes "the basement"

Yankees (Northerners) refer to that area as a "cellar."


Hi graymane, in Nova Scotia it is always basement.

12-14-13  11:14am - 4026 days #53
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Sorry guys, been a while. Been lurking but been real busy with things.

New question.

Do you prefer super model looks in the girls on websites, be it softcore, hardcore or whatever? Or do you prefer more 'real' looking girls, such as the girl next door type, with their flaws, imperfections, etc?


The real looking ones, please. Flaws and all. The glamor types do not interest me.

12-14-13  11:11am - 4026 days #5
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Well, my is going to say, "Dialect" is a direct result of using "Improper Language".

As an example, one of the coming changes that represents this type of trend is the rule of using "an" preceding a word that begins with a vowel rather than "a" (when a/an is the appropriate word to use in the sentence). It apparently is so misused that the grammar police are changing the rule.


I was thinking that "waiting on one's boyfriend to show up" might be a Southern idiom but can't be sure until someone responds to the question. And yes I have noticed (being a Wheel of Fortune watcher) that many folks ask for a "a" or a "e" etc. rather than for an "a," an "e" etc.

12-14-13  11:07am - 4026 days #4
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


Sounds like a grammar error to me. Isn't it wait FOR someone who's late, and wait ON someone to whom you are supplying food or beverages?

There are a lot of differences between the opposite sides of the Atlantic. I've noticed that American's tend to say "write" instead of "write to" eg "Don't forget to write me" vs. "Don't forget to write to me."

The word pavement always makes me chuckle as it's meaning is almost opposite. British people drive on the road and walk on the pavement. American's drive on the pavement.


That's what we say in Canada as well, Ed. We wait FOR someone. If it had only been one author I would have said it was a grammatical mistake. But FIVE (yes I came across another one last night)? And in Canada we walk on the sidewalk and drive on the pavement like the Americans.

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As you know, I've gone back to reading books big time. At least four different American authors tend to write something like this: "she spent over an hour waiting on her husband to show up!" I have never heard of anyone waiting ON someone unless it was a waiter/waitress? Is this common usage in the U.S. of A.? Thanks!

12-13-13  11:36pm - 4026 days #4
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


^ jerryl69 - I'm too am old enough to remember that time but it never occurred to me that was the situation. The French connection here was so long ago that I forgot that could be the reason. Thanks for pointing that out.

As for my future wife, I'm aware that I have competition. D'oh!!! Maybe I shouldn't get the guys here to tell Tanner that it's over yet...


Too late, rear admiral, I've been holding Tanner's sobbing body all night. It's way past my bedtime but feel that someone has to console the poor devasted girl. Rayveness has been shooting jealous daggers in our direction but what can one do?

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