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09-07-09  12:28pm - 5585 days #58
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


What I was getting at is that they have a similar focus. Actually, if you sign up for one you get $10 off for joining more sites. The last time I signed up I joined three because of the discount. I wish they were a real full network, even if they had a premium price.


Thanks for clarifying things for me, mbaya. I'd go for a full network myself.

09-07-09  08:41am - 5586 days #55
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


A good example of a network that is focused is kink.com.
Most networks have 1 of this and 1 of that and don't do anything well. I feel a focused network would get many customers who like a particular niche.


Question: are they a network in the usual sense? Last time I looked you had to subscribe to each site of theirs separately. Have they changed that or did I misunderstand their policy in the first place? Kink.com is great for quality and originality and if it was a true network (subscribe to one and get the other sites with it for the same price) I'd subscribe in a minute.

09-07-09  08:36am - 5586 days #21
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Originally Posted by pat362:


It's not secret that I prefer pubic hair over the kojac look. I'm still curious to know when and possibly why the bald look came into existence. I can understand wanting to keep it trimmed but to go outright bald just seems weird to me. I have a friend who has brought up the subject of a brazilian waxing and frankly I do not understand why you would get something that is clearly painful done to yourself for a specific look.


You know, this has been baffling me too, Pat. When exactly did the shift take place? It sneaked up on me and quite frankly I didn't even know that women shaved/waxed their pubes as a routine until I seriously got into Porn about two years ago. Is it porn only or does the average woman shave as well? Being monogamous I haven't had a chance to compare. :-)

09-06-09  06:48pm - 5586 days #40
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Hey, E! I would really miss you if you ever left this forum. I've always enjoyed your contributions and I never found them too long, possibly because English is my second language as well and you helped me see things a bit clearer by your detailed explanations of various subjects. :-)

So, please don't get out of the PU habit once your family hits Florida, I enjoy your company too much.

I, too, wish to add my condolences when it comes to your friend and mentor. It's got to be tough but with your positive attitude you'll adapt and go on.

09-06-09  11:39am - 5586 days #8
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Why was leg hair and armpit hair for women mainly on the outs during the last 60+ years, while pubic hair was mainly in until recent years? Now pubic hair is definitely out (how gross). I'm talking U.S. standards; Europe and elsewhere might be different, over the last 60+ years. But the current trend is definitely no hair for legs, armpits, pubes, in most of western culture (Europe and U.S.), for females, at least.


I don't know if anyone my age found hair in an arm pit gross but leg hair was definitely out, at least in Canada.

Imagine my shock when I visited my sister in Germany twenty years ago and found that no female in the family shaved their legs. So it is indeed cultural. Of course, many things change in twenty years, so Europe might have gone for the shaved look in the meantime as well.

09-06-09  10:07am - 5586 days #47
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I am starting to get offers of reduced rates for sites I used to be a member of, but they are only a couple of quid cheaper.

They aren't trying hard enough for me.
Oh & multiple site deals never appeal to me
What I can't get my head around is if I am looking at subscribing to a softcore teen site, why would I be interested in bonus hardcore tranny/gay sites?

Cap'n. :0/


With multiple sites you will get that, Capn. I subscribed to a mature site because the odds of getting "hair" and sexy lingerie are greater when it comes to older women (if they are matched to a mature photographer) and got all kinds of teenie and glamour sites with it in all their bronzed, glistening and shaved glory ... just what I didn't want.

I could see a network having a lot of success if all their sites stuck with the theme of the main site.

09-06-09  09:59am - 5587 days #5
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Here's another old man speaking out in defense of that lovely bush. I know there was a time when very few women shaved because they would have been mortified if they had had to explain to a doctor or nurse why they had done that, and, all of a sudden, (almost overnight .. to me) it's become a fetish.

You'll find various posts of mine throughout this forum and in some reviews defending the natural look. I subscribed to ATK Natural and Hairy more often than to any other site until most of their photographers let me down by being too repetitious and by forgetting to put enough lingerie on their models.

But, of course, now the natural look is "shaved" and a lot of our users tend to express outright disgust at the thought of an unshaved pussy. The times they are a'changing and I think we might have to get used to that because I, as opposed to you, don't see any resurgence of natural and hairy as something "normal" anywhere. BTW, having looked at your profile, our tastes seem to match. :-)

09-04-09  04:05pm - 5588 days #33
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


If THE site is the only one that will satisfy you, I can see where the frustration would keep building. I am more than happy if I can find sites that offer solid, quality content. And some of the content (pix and vids) can be surprisingly good. You just have to keep searching for it.


I know, I have been searching, don't think I haven't. My problem is that with most sites, even the good quality ones, you're caught up too soon and then are reliant on the daily update(s)which might or might not be good. I like All Over 30 but am all caught up. I like Anilos, still subscribing to it, but waiting for that daily update now because after two subscriptions I have all my favorites on my hard drive. And so it went with other sites as well. So, start reviewing some sites I've never heard of. Preferably one with mature models in mature lingerie. :-)

09-04-09  12:48pm - 5588 days #31
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


It looks like there is a new dog in the mix now with messmer's new avatar!


Yep, that's me, baying at the moon in pure frustration over not finding THE site! :-)

09-04-09  12:21pm - 5588 days #5
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


I've always thought that gagging scenes started because the porn industry was running out of things to push the envelope. When I was young, not every porn star did anal. Now it's rare when they don't. It used to be rare to see a creampie, now that's been done to death too. It's like an evolution of the product. "Gotta keep it fresh, so what can we come up with?" That's how we wound up with crap like a site dedicated to cumshots in eyes held open.

I've also thought that there are far too many women with self-esteem issues and, somehow, the whole facial/gagging/choking stuff ties into it. I've heard it from more than a few guys that, if you want a woman to pay attention to her, treat her like shit. Considering what I've seen in my dating life, I don't see that as being too far from the truth. Abuse is "fashionable". I guess that leaves me out of the loop - I think it's stupid, degrading and repulsive. I don't like to see it and certainly wouldn't have any parts of it myself.


Regrettably, I have to agree with you, RB. Going way back to my youth I always seemed to be a "friend" to all the girls I liked while the guys that treated them like shit had all the success. It was so bad that I wrote to my mother after I had left home:

"I think you gave me the wrong advice when you told me to always be a gentleman! Girls don't look for gentlemen, they prefer the "dangerous" types." Told you I was very young at the time. :-)

As to all the gagging and spitting and slapping, with someone like Kelly Wells or Amber Rayne or Sasha Grey (already mentioned) I am sort of fascinated by their going overboard like that because they appear to do it enthusiastically.

With most others I steer away from scenes like that because I find them abusive.

09-03-09  08:22am - 5590 days #18
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


Personally I think your site is pretty healthy. You have your regulars, then you have some new members who pop in now and again, then you have some like Ik2 who joined and have kept contributing.

I can only speak for myself but the one reason I have stopped contributing is because of censorship over free material. It's just a personal thing. I haven't made a post for about 3 months now and wasn't really intending on saying anything like goodbye, simply because there may have been something I agreed with or disagreed with so strongly, I may have felt I had to make a comment. Anyway I am here just about every day, reading with interest what people have to say. It's just I have gone back to being an observer rather than a contributor.

The owners have their own quite legitimate reasons for not allowing discussions or posts about free material. They have the right to ask people not to discuss that subject. I have been a member of a few forums and the only ones I have left have been due to censorship, or over management, or over zealous moderation. I feel uneasy about contributing to any site that has censorship. That is just a personal thing. There is no right or wrong about it. The people who run PU have every right to have that policy, and I have every right not to contribute to a site that has that policy.

This place is fun and I wish you all the best. I am always checking in, it is just I will not be contributing. I am just one ex poster. I don't know the reasons some of the others are contributing less. I do know that nearly every forum has a very high percentage of members compared to contributors. Guess that's the way it will always be.

Rarely does a day go by when there isn't something I have wanted to comment on. You guys come up with some great stuff. I have just restrained myself on principal because I have always hated censorship and restrictions on freedom of speech. I guess this is my official last post. Take care everyone.


Aw, Squirrel, I still miss you. I understand the principled stand you take but wish you would make an exception with a forum/site that is in the business of reviewing pay sites. How could they act any other way? It's their livelihood. Let yourself down for once and come on back! :-)

09-03-09  08:18am - 5590 days #17
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


I'm here just about daily. I'm still putting in my two cents where I feel the need to, but I guess you could say I'm "porn bound". There aren't enough sites out there that really appeal to me, and reviewing the same sites over and over again gets old. That might be part of why the site's slowed down some. Maybe people have realized that sites really don't change enough to warrant their being reviewed to death. I guess if I was here just for the raffle, you'd see reviews for IFeelMyself and AllOver30 every few months from me.


I was thinking along the same lines, RB. I've been wanting to review a site that hasn't been done to death, but have been looking for weeks for one that deserved my thirty bucks. There just aren't that many sites with mature models wearing attractive lingerie under their dresses. :-(

09-03-09  08:10am - 5590 days #15
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Originally Posted by Advent:


I have been lurking for a little while and to be honest I did not want to reply to things because you all seem like a close family and I did not want you to think I was intruding.


This happened to me quite a few times when I was still subscribing to the usenet, Melissa. When I first started lurking in some of the news groups that interested me the most I always found a core of posters that seemed like a clique because they had their in-jokes and an easy familiarity with each other from long acquaintance.

But as I kept responding to some of the subjects that interested me I found myself readily accepted as one of them! The real nice thing about this forum is the fact that I haven't seen a single flame in connection with any poster except for the ones who came with a not so hidden agenda. Your presence would be valuable in other respects as well, as a web mistress you would get the feel of what PUs like and dislike and could pass it on to photographers and videographers which would help us as well as a site.

09-03-09  07:59am - 5590 days #14
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Originally Posted by Pornbro:


Iam new here, hello everyone !


Hi Pornbro, welcome!

09-02-09  06:31pm - 5590 days #3
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I'm definitely here! It wouldn't be a proper day if I couldn't make my way to the forum. I just hope there's no Brutus waiting behind a column somewhere.

I agree that we need new blood and more participation by some of our members. I've voiced enough personal opinions over the months and would love nothing better than to respond to something new and different instead of beating each subject that interests me to death! :-)

So, come on in, lurkers. We won't bite, even our pit bull and German shepherd won't, we'd be really happy to see your contributions.

09-01-09  08:53am - 5592 days #8
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


I don't know if you meant bloopers that made it into the final product or not, but I saw a clip just yesterday where a girl was squatting over a guy in the tub. One foot on a soap dish that suddenly gave out and down she went. And not in the fun way.


Definitely bloopers that made it into the final product, RB. Either they don't notice or they think WTF, we're not going to go through this scene again just because we made a mistake.

08-31-09  07:59pm - 5592 days #10
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Just a small adder to this story. It seems that after Stephanie Swift had her double masectomy. The doctors discovered that she has cancer in her lymph nodes as well. She is scheduled to undergo an
operation in September to remove them.


That's rough! I really feel for this woman. May they get every trace of this filthy disease before it spreads even more. :-(

08-31-09  02:40pm - 5592 days #3
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Reminds me of Minnie Pearl. Hey, rednecks like porn too, y'know?


Never thought of that, Drooler. Maybe if she had worn a hat?

08-31-09  02:17pm - 5592 days Original Post - #1
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Just downloaded a set of pictures where the model has been handed a pair of glasses that still have that little round price sticker attached to the upper right lens (as in cheap reading glasses). She wears that sticker all through the set. Strange that no one noticed. They must have been in an awful hurry to complete that shoot. :-)

Any other bloopers you've come across?

08-31-09  02:10pm - 5592 days #5
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Originally Posted by Riffy:


Absolutely right.
I know I'm new to shooting of sexy ladies getting their kit off, but one thing I learned VERY quickly is that the ladies I've worked with are brilliant fun, providing the shoot is fun and the guy behind the camera is up for a laugh and not some anally retentive big-head.
Fun shows through and fun is sexy (well I think it is) and there's nothing worse than a lass looking bored no matter how gorgeous she looks.
I think all the ladies I've worked with have had a good time on our shoots and they show too.


I find that any shooting done in the U.K. is usually quite good because much of it is being done with a bit of humor and bantering with the model. Sadly, we appear to be stuck (mostly) with the "anally retentive big-heads" on this continent. The usual pre-scene interview: "What's your name? How old are you? Is this the first time you do porn? What was your first sexual experience and how old were you? Okay, stand up. (Sounding like a drill sergeant now). Take off your top! Now your jeans/daisy dukes/skirt! No, not that way, turn around so that we can see your butt."

Models as objects and they react accordingly. If they keep smiling they are very good actresses because they are being treated like slabs of meat being graded.

08-24-09  02:56pm - 5599 days #17
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


If the externals aren't turned on, it is definitely safe to leave them plugged into the USB ports. Your PC won't see them unless they're turned on.


Thank you, thank you .. that's definitely what I wanted to hear. I kept thinking that maybe during boot-up the computer would end up looking for something in the USB Ports that isn't there and throw a hissy-fit. That's how much I know! :-)

08-24-09  11:12am - 5599 days #15
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Originally Posted by Colm4:


I had an error once with my external and had to unplug it without clicking that icon. Messed up my usb capababilities and had to re-install windows. Fortunately the drives were still ok, but I always advice to properly disconnect them.


Thanks, Colm4, I've had three externals sitting here .. disconnected .. until I got a definitive answer from someone on how Externals and my computer interact. I am glad I waited a bit.

Still would like to know if I could keep them connected to my USB ports when they are not powered up. That would save me the trouble of having to crawl behind my desk every time I want to use them, or connect them all to the front USB ports and be faced with an unsightly tangle of wires. Also (because I just read about bandwidth alloted to each USB connected device) am I overloading anything if I run all three externals at the same time. I sorta like to roam back and forth between them.

08-24-09  07:08am - 5600 days #12
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


I still believe externals cost too much and offer more issues. Speed is better with them external and cooling, as RB touched on, is much better. A fan blowing on the drive itself is great, while a fan blowing across a case that houses a hard drive is a whole other issue. Many cases have no or very few hols to allow the air inside to circulate out, so it is the same as the insulated windows that have a void inside them.

My one external has no fan and it runs very warm. My older external has a fan and still runs warm, but not as bad.

If this is a system you would like to be able to scale, and you do not intend on moving the drives around, I would suggest using SATA for everything and set the drives up on an external mount with their own power supply. This is uglier but it works very well for me. The speed is much better and cooling is a non issue. But not every one is like me and feels a need to hoard porn like the internet will die tomorrow, so for most people an external is the way to go.

To your specific question, RB is correct in many respects. Your motherboard has powered ports and each port is only meant for a given amount of power to be feed through it. The best thing to do is look in your manual to see how much power the ports can handle. If too much power is needed I can not say that it will damage the board for sure, but I would worry about the devices attached. Under powering many devices is damaging. I would suspect the only way you will run into problems is if you are start using non external powered USB hubs to run an army of devices. Having a few things hooked up across several ports should not keep you up at night, unless of course you are enjoying the content of those drives at night.

One final note. Do not keep a whole lot of important data unbacked up on that computer for a little while. The newer a piece of electronics is the more likely it is to fail. The first time is the worst and as a little time goes on the likelihood of it not working decreases. If it is working good after a few weeks then you can be reasonably sure it will work for a while. Of course you should always keep backups of your important stuff, but we are all just lazy humans after all. :)


Thanks, Badandy. I have three WD MyBook externals. If I plug them into the USB ports and leave them plugged in all the time and simply pull the power supply plug when I don't need them will that do any harm to anything? THAT is basically my concern, that and what would happen if they were plugged into the power supply already when I have to re-boot the computer for some reason. Does one (the externals) affect the other (the computer) negatively, do you think?

08-23-09  04:07pm - 5600 days #9
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


If you're worried about overloading the system at boot, why not just keep the externals off, then turn them on once you've booted up? Not as convenient as having one switch for everything, by definitely not so hard to do with the addition of another small power strip.


Thanks, RB, that's what I've been doing all day, but I never thought of getting another small power strip. That would be ideal. Just keep everything plugged into that one and after you're booted up, throw the switch. You're a genius. :-)

08-23-09  12:47pm - 5600 days #7
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I have two WD externals, neither of which has given me any problems thus far...fingers crossed, with the possibility I could get as angry as RagingBuddhist. My one complaint is neither of them come with power switches, just USB ports, though one is a small portable drive (USB powered, no fan) and the other one (AC powered, with fan) has a backup/"One Touch" button which I never use. My two other, non-WD, externals both have power switches so I can leave them plugged in, but still switch them on and off.


The external (250 GB) I just retired because it was running too hot was one of those Backup/One touch drives. It might have been normal for that brand but always made me nervous.

08-23-09  12:41pm - 5600 days #6
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


At the risk of starting a hard drive brand war, I've never had any luck with the WD externals. The first one I bought died after a couple of weeks. Hoping I'd just gotten a lemon, I tried another one and it started making noise and seemed to be having problems transferring data after a week. It's a shame - they look nice, they even feel like a well made product. But, even well dressed, a turd is a turd.

I really don't want to scare you away from using externals. They're a great way to back up data, which is why I have about 20 hard drives sitting on a shelf, with some files duplicated more than once. To me, the key is keeping 'em cool and not piling 'em on all at once.


I'm not so much worried about an external going bad on me even though I'd lose part of my collection. I was wondering if the externals could somehow damage the motherboard or hard drive of my computer if I leave them plugged into the USB ports all day. At night I hit the power switch on that surge bar and everything is turned off anyway so, no need to disconnect. It all worked beautifully for me for a long time, but for my computer to give up its ghost one day after I transfered a ton of data to my newest external makes me wonder if one effects the other adversely somehow. Could three externals plugged into a USB port give the machine too much of a shock on booting up? All those questions, most of them probably stupid.

They would have never entered my mind if my Acer hadn't packed up on me so prematurely.

BTW, the 2 WD MyBook 500 GB externals are running very cool and quietly and reliably, so far, as opposed to a 250 Gig external I had that was always hot to the touch.

08-23-09  08:11am - 5601 days #3
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


One of the drawbacks to externals is the lack of proper cooling, if they have a fan at all. Heat will definitely shorten the life of any drive. When I leave my externals on for any extended period of time, I keep a 120 mm fan blowing across the cases which I make sure are separated enough to allow airflow between them. It looks a bit "rigged", but it keeps 'em cool. There can also be an issue if you keep too many externals running at once because each drive requires power from the motherboard. Put too much strain on the motherboard, you can lose your USB (or Firewire) ports.

If you Google it, you'll see two schools of thought on unplugging externals without hitting the hotplug button to properly shut them down. Some say it's crap and makes no difference, others say it can lead to data corruption. I do know that if something is writing to the disk and you interrupt it, that can make a mess of things. But as far as pulling the plug on a drive that's just been sitting there, I always take the safe approach and shut it down correctly.


Thanks, RB. I guess there's more to working with external drives than I expected. I kept them hooked up for convernience's sake all the time the computer was one. Once in a while |'d remove one by simply pulling the plugs and it didn't seem to do any harm but I just installed a terabyte WD MyBook drive which made it three external drives altogether and I was wondering if that could have caused damage to my computer. All I got yesterday morning when I booted up was the initial screen and, after that, nothing. The technician I talked to suspected a hard drive failure but now I'm nervous about external drives till someone reassures me that they don't damage the operating system. This may sound stupid but I know more about software than the actual workings of a computer.

08-22-09  07:48pm - 5601 days Original Post - #1
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Is there a danger to my system if I a) leave all external drives hooked up to my system or b) if I remove them without clicking on the Icon (bottom right of Vista screen) that reads: "Safely remove external storage unit." ?? Badandy help!

Messmer writing from a new computer, wondering if he caused the disaster by leaving all external drives hooked up as a convenience. The old one (just a month over the warranty period) gave up its ghost this morning. Diagnosis hard drive failure. :-(

08-18-09  07:19pm - 5605 days #15
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Great job, Rick and gang. Nice and modern and crisp, laid out very well with tons of information. I like the grades on the side. The general impression is that 2.0 is very pleasing to the eye (as well as informative).

08-16-09  08:30am - 5608 days #7
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I think there's quite a difference, maybe not when it comes to judging a model's beauty but in smaller things. I've seen too many times when a younger member expressed revulsion at the thought of pubic hair.

There's also the easy acceptance of thongs as underwear :-) and pantyhose as erotic and worthy of being a fetish.

And, when it comes to hardcore videos, read some of the comments where younger members confess that they like Video Box because it allows them to make up their personal clips that leave out most of the action leading up to the "money shot." I rest my case! :-)

08-15-09  09:09am - 5609 days #6
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Originally Posted by jd1961:


If that bill went through, she'd be lucky if she got any treatment at all.


JD, my friend, I promised myself a long time ago that I would not ever get involved in a political argument again. Your post and the article by PP set me off and I could kick myself for responding but I get angry when people suffer needlessly .. therefore my remarks above. I'll let it rest there.

08-15-09  09:00am - 5609 days #34
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Originally Posted by jd1961:


Hardly.
Candaians wait in line for their operations.
Putting health care in the hands of the federal government is insane. I wouldn't trust them to take care of my dog.


A small correction, health care is in the hands of the Provincial Governments. The Federal Government contributes a certain percentage of the money towards universal care, they don't run it. As a matter of fact they are responsible for the present waiting times because they cut their contributions to the bone over a period of years.

Because we have a minority conservative government that has to be more responsive to people's needs or they put themselves in danger of getting kicked out, steps have finally been taken to correct this unacceptable situation.

But even then nobody was kept waiting if the operation or treatment was considered urgent. I know my wife never was.

Even the woman who was used by the American right was in no danger of dying if she had to wait. She simply was scared (for which I don't blame her) and ran south.

08-14-09  06:43pm - 5609 days #3
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This is what makes me crazy! Just watched the news again where people wail and howl and cry and protest in town hall meetings and see the proposed Health Care changes in the U.S. as a diabolical plot by Obama and the left and here we have someone in emotional and physical turmoil over cancer who has to wait past her time because she doesn't have the money required up front. An excerpt from Pink Panther's copied article:

"Swift's mother works at St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica, Calif., and she plans to be treated there.

"I've been getting consultations over there and I've elected to do a full double mastectomy, because I don't want to go through this again," Swift said. "I'm on emergency status right now. You're supposed to be operated on no more than a month after you're biopsied, and it's been three.

"The reason I'm waiting for my surgery is that they want so much up front."


And there we have people who are howling "Marxism" when someone is trying to correct that sort of inhuman, heartless greed.

And they got the nerve to mock the British and Canadian systems of universal care. Man, something stinks. Good luck, Stephanie! And sorry to bring politics into the picture once again.

08-14-09  02:00pm - 5609 days #22
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


I think the biggest problems with modern porn are:

1) It's too easy to make nowadays (this was mentioned by another user)

and, the major problem for me:

2) The players look like (and in some cases probably are) thugs and prostitutes. Thugs assaulting prostitutes is not arousing. It's revolting. And when it's not revolting it's boring.


I often wonder if half of the male porn "stars" aren't ex-cons because of the steroid look combined with heavy tattoos? They are mostly featured in anal videos which would suggest preferences acquired in a prison environment. :-)

08-14-09  01:57pm - 5609 days #21
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


This is exactly why I'm a fan of amateur porn. For the most part, the people are in it for real. I don't see a lot of people looking like they're fucking to fulfill a contract.



What's the best amateur site, in your opinion, RB? Thanks.

08-13-09  03:00pm - 5610 days #45
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Did she know? She might have gotten off on the taboo aspect - women certainly vary in that. Aaliyah Love, one webcam model that talks a lot about that profession, seems to really enjoy all the odd scenarios that pop up - guys that have very particular fetishes (one guy wanted her to roll around on a deflating beach ball - it was the sound of the air coming out that got him off) - couples that watch web-cam shows together - guys that watch web-cam shows alone next to their sleeping wives, etc. Janessa Brazil, on the other hand, was freaked out by a guy that she used to work with before she started nude modeling getting a private web-cam show with her.


When it comes to taboos I think the Oedipus Complex is much more prevalent than is commonly assumed. Kristen's Archives on ASSTR had a poll once on the same subject and a sizable minority of the respondents stated that they would be turned on if they saw their mothers on one of those sites or on a Cam show. This makes David just a bit more honest than many others who would feel the same way if they came across a similar situation. Edited on Aug 13, 2009, 04:04pm

08-13-09  08:10am - 5611 days #8
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Well, yes - the admiral has a point, for sure.
But right now, I'll just say: read my reply to turboshafts review of Nubiles....it's close to this users general point of view (at the moment).
And ok: one more point: Earlier this year 2009 I was "happy" with the alternative to Videobox: VideosZ. With a high score!
But after some time of membership - of both - things are really getting BORING!
Who said: repetitive?
Maybe it's time for a break - but then what???????


You are so right. At the moment I have an overlapping membership to both Video Box and Videosz and the updates are boring on both site: anal ... anal ... anal! And I switched from photography to videos because photography was gettting too bland. :-( There's not enough niche content on any of the sites except maybe on American Vice and they don't update often enough to make a recurring subscription worthwhile.

08-12-09  06:29pm - 5611 days #3
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I agree with you when you say a lot of the new porn is boring and repetitious. When I saw the latest updates on Video Box and Videosz today my reaction was:

"The guy is probably naked and the girl has some skimpy clothes on. Then they do anal after which he'll ejaculate on her face. The end."

Anal appears to be in, good for the anal fans, but I can't wait until all of them are sated and bored with the subject and we move on to the latest whatever that may turn out to be.

There has been a lot of complaining in this forum under a variety of subjects about the boredom factor when it comes to porn. I don't think we've come up with an answer yet, except maybe with a guess that many of us have seen too much of it and are getting jaded. But I'm not sure that's really the case. Just like Hollywood, Porn producers are incurable imitators and if something proves to be a hit they all climb on the bandwagon and imitate away.

I have the same problem when it comes to pictures. I truly can't find a picture site that suits me these days because the photographers all seem to shoot the various scenes with the model on the run:

"Don't bother putting on underwear we're in a hurry and have at least four shoots planned for the day. We're doing "office" for this shoot, so here's a jacket and skirt, don't bother with the rest, so we get forty pictures of a jacket clad model and then she takes it off and is naked.

The kitchen scene comes next, okay, here's your apron, give us a couple of shots showing your behind, maybe a couple with your breasts showing as well, then take off the apron.

Okay, on to lingerie, we got a bra and panties somewhere. O yeah, here they are. The bra is rhinestone spangled, the panties are black cotton but who cares, it does qualify as lingerie.

Almost finished, here's the last set of the day: a set of you in a gown. Just slip it on, for Pete's sake, we're paying you by the hour, never mind bra or panties or stockings, the guys aren't interested in those things.

So, once again, we have forty pictures of a lady in a gown then she pulls it off over her head and once again the rest of the set is complete nudity. Really exciting stuff! Not!

Take notice All Over 30, Aunt Judy's, Older Women, Karups Older Women. Please!!!

To their credit All Over 30 just sent their photographers out to buy some sexy underwear in response to their users' longing to get the tease factor back into the picture, so maybe someone is listening. We hope.

08-12-09  03:30pm - 5611 days #32
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Frankly, I'd rather have some amount be taken out of my paycheck each month for health care knowing that for next to nothing I can get treated if I get sick and not worry about going bankrupt or even having access to health care. If I have to wait a bit longer for service or not get everything that technology might allow for, I'll take that trade off.


That's the way we feel, too, Wittyguy. Except for that Canadian woman in the Republican attack ad. :-)

08-12-09  03:19pm - 5611 days #31
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Thanks for the tolerance and moral support guys. It is a sensitive subject and I expected some flak from some of my American friends. Looks like Porn Users are nothing but a bunch of LIBERALS!

All kidding aside I knew a Baptist Pastor who confided in me one day, at a funeral, that he was more comfortable in the company of sinners than that of saints because they are kinder and less judgmental. I believe him! :-)

P.S. I recognized the humor when you called us all socialists, turboshaft, I was used to being called exactly that by the extreme right in that other group I mentioned but it allowed me to get my 2 cents worth in on the subject.

08-12-09  02:13pm - 5611 days #26
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I know there are quite a few active members from Europe (secular socialists!) and also Canada, so it would be interesting to hear from them on this topic.

Don't leave this forum messemer! All opinions are welcome -- okay, maybe not the anti-porn ones -- and I think we are still in a time where many Americans can be called un-American for questioning anything, so please keep posting.


Thanks, turboshaft, this has been a very civilized group and I don't expect any of the nastiness that you see in usenet groups but realize at the same time that there are deeply and devoutly held convictions re. the role of government in your society so I'm bound to step on some toes the moment I say anything critical in connection with your present health care system.

Actually it is none of my business except that our system was held up as something not to imitate. I know of better ones, all I have to do is glance across the ocean, but basically it's been good to me and my family.

With your present one, given my wife's illnesses, we would be uninsured by now or into debt over our heads. So I'm grateful.

BTW, I am not sure if the Europeans (or Canadians) would be happy to be called Socialists. There's just more of an emphasis on the welfare of the tribe rather than on that of the individual.

08-12-09  02:04pm - 5611 days #25
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I for one am very happy to hear from Canadians or anyone else that has the system that I wish we had. Right now we all pay far too much for insurance in the US and don't really get our moneys worth. Yes to reform!


Thanks and good for you. Another stark example of a non-functioning system I forgot to mention earlier was the disturbing picture of an American elderly woman with Alzheimers' being dropped off by a cab in front of one of those charity hospitals in poor neighborhoods and left to wander around aimlessly and confused, clad only in a granny gown, because the hospital she had first been brought to called a cab for her the moment they found out she had no insurance. She was rescued eventually by someone who saw her from inside the ?hospital? and took her in.

This was not in a Michael Moore movie but on one of your more reputable news channels. The whole scene of this poor, disoriented woman stumbling around in a nightie was caught on a security camera.

Reform, of course, is up to all of you and I know how distasteful it is to see foreigners sticking their noses into your affairs, so .. sorry and I'll shut up now except to make one more reply to another post! :-)

08-12-09  10:22am - 5611 days #22
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Originally Posted by jd1961:


Anyone who lives near Canada (as I do) knows for a fact that Government health care is garbage. The pits. Waiting for an operation you may never get. I know for a fact that people living in Canada come to the U.S. for quality health care. Hopefully this ill conceived idea will end up in the trash can.

The Congress intend to exempt themselves from this bill! LOL


With all due respect, jd, that's a gross exaggeration. I watched a U.S. news show the other day where a guy mentioned casually that he didn't have the money to pay for stitches on a cut to his arm so they had to use another method to seal the cut. That made all of us hard-done-by Canadians sit up with a gasp. There are folks who will go to the States because they have money and freak out at the thought of having to wait for anything so, why not?

Some horrible examples of failures of the Canadian way of doing things are being hauled out by special interest groups (read insurance companies) but I have a wife who had a gall bladder operation, Bartholyn (sp) cyst drained, thyroid operation, hip operation, three years of hemo dialysis, two kidney transplants, all the follow ups in connection with the transplants. Total cost (except through taxes that we barely notice): 0 !!

We are free to choose our own family physicians and while waiting periods are sometimes a bit long, the overwhelming majority are not dangerously so. Not even for the woman with the tumor in that Republican ad.

Don't forget that those representatives of yours have been slipped envelopes by lobbyists for years, they don't want to lose that source of income.

Please don't take this as a personal attack, just attempting to correct the false picture presented by Republicans and the Fox Network. Most of us are very happy with what we have even though there are flaws that should be corrected, like the long waiting periods to see specialists. And we are working on that.

And it's a lot better than losing your insurance because your insurance company had to pay out too much on your behalf over the years and you find to your horror that now that you've developed cancer they've dropped you like a hot potato and you're on your own. (Another example of a not so well working system I saw on CNN only the other day).

Darn it, I should never post in a political thread, I had to leave a newsgroup once because the stout defenders of the American way of delivering health care tore me to shreds for being anti-american. So please be kind, I don't want to leave another forum, but I couldn't let your remark go unanswered. Remember there are always complainers in connection with every subject.

08-11-09  07:42pm - 5612 days #4
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Originally Posted by utgardhaloki:


All I want to see is a hot glamour girl in latex/leather/dom attire doing a bit of mild bdsm stuff (whipping/spanking/teasing) to a guy, followed by some hard fucking, toe sucking and a classic facial. Surely that can't be too much to ask. Anybody got any recommendations? (sites or dvds)...


When I subscribed to American Vice there were quite a few videos of mild bdsm and tons of scenes of actors wearing latex. I'm not into latex myself, as a matter of fact I was disappointed that latex seemed to dominate the fetish niche, but if I remember correctly it was there .. in abundance.

08-11-09  07:32pm - 5612 days #36
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Originally Posted by pat362:


You are correct that a simple statement cannot express the reasons why one girl has greater appeal than another. I can't remember in which movie I first saw Claire but I know that she caught my eye right away. She doesn't remind me of anyone in my past but I've always thought that she was beautiful. If I were to assign a quality to her than wholesome would be it. In an industry where looking fake is common. She always appeared normal. She didn't got the route of fake breast or plastic surgery and for the most part. She never wore large amounts of makeup.
She was beautiful but not so much that a guy like me would feel uncomfortable asking her on a date.


Good reply, Pat. I think it was a combination of factors for me as well. That wholesome, natural look you are talking about (and it helped that she reminded me of the first girl that set my heart a-pounding)and the fact that she looks approachable. There's also an incredible contrast between that sparkling smile and winning personality and what she's willing to do in the various scenes. I find them highly erotic, given that angelic face and pixie hair cut.

08-11-09  07:25pm - 5612 days #34
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Originally Posted by GCode:


As far as Claire Robbins go, just to throw this out there about differences in opinions (I hope we are talking about the same star, I googled images and she has short hair?). Well, if this is the same star, I would totally describe her as a cutie pie rather than using the words beautiful. Maybe, I just use certain words to describe woman differently, but I would definitly describe her as a cutie rather than beautiful. But, this is by no means a decription that is bad or negative, I'd screw either woman with each description faster than a new york minute :)

But, I do like pat362's comment about feeling uncomfortable to ask her out. It made me think for a minute and I almost feel like I might be attracted to more models that I feel are in my 'cutie pie' description based on what he said exactly. Maybe the feeling that I could actually obtain the model makes me more attracted to them in scenes, as opposed to a downright 'beautiful' model that I would have to down a 12 pack just to say hi to :)

I have to ponder this more....


Ponder away, GCode! And Cutie Pie it is, definitely! There is no happy middle ground with me. I seem to like cutie pies and ladies of advanced age (forty and up). I am a psychological mess! :-)

08-11-09  06:54pm - 5612 days #30
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Originally Posted by GCode:


I see your point and I see past experiences as being part of it. While I agree with your main words and it is a great point (the first sentence in the quotes). However, personally, I believe all humans have a general idea what an attractive woman (or man for that part) is and can agree with it but they may not find them as beautiful as you said, but indifferent. But, they do know they are attractive, then you always hear the saying, "yeah she's hot, but not my type". So, when it comes to people having differences in opinions as to what is absolutely the hottest to them but may be different to others has to be actually quite deep. The human mind is quite sophisticated and there are so many damn factors that determine anything that a human feels at any certain moment that it's hard to say. But, there is a universal 'attractivenes' that is seen by what I believe to be most level headed humans as to what an attractive person is forged both biologically and through society.

As with anything trying to explain why a human feels any way is hard to just come up with a simple few worded answer such as just 'past experiences' as explaining why. But, I think you are 100% right that it is part of the explanation. As far as you saying you are filling the forum with nonsense is BS! It's been quite dead lately and I love reading opinions about topics like this :)


You are absolutely right about one thing: the way we feel about things, look at things is too complicated to be answered with a simple statement. So my remarks that past experiences play a role in whom we find attractive are indeed only part of the explanation. It was one of those "aha" moments when it came to Claire Robbins but I confess to grossly simplifying because, quite frankly, I haven't figured out yet who else among my favorites resembles someone I might have known in the past or present! Or if there are other factors! :-)

08-11-09  12:57pm - 5612 days #28
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Originally Posted by GCode:


To be completely blunt, my favorite porn stars are just based solely on looks. There really is no past experience or anything else that makes me love them. Plus, to be honest, I switch favorite porn stars faster than I switch real life girlfriends which maybe explains more about myself. Honestly, I could love a star for a month, watch them quite a but, then never watch them again for a long time, if ever. I guess I'm quite vain when it comes to my porn. As for determining what makes me 'click' in looks, maybe that could be more personal or based off experience but I honestly don't look at personality when it comes to my favorite stars in porn. However, I suppose maybe this can come in to play with my favorite scenes which I think would start a whole different topic. So, I will still 'like' the scene if one of my favorite stars is in it, I will just 'love' the scene if my favorite star is in it and acting a certain way. But, that is getting off the topic. So, to sum up everything, it's all about the looks man!


Well, I guess maybe I should rephrase my original question a bit seeing that you mention that your preference for certain stars is based solely on looks .. we're all the same there. Problem is your looks may not necessarily be my looks. You will find a model breathtakingly beautiful while I am quite indifferent to her.

So there has to be something in our past that determines what/whom we find beautiful and what/whom we don't.

The whole thing is obvious, but wasn't to me mainly because I had never given it a thought, until I ran across a video by someone I had never heard of (Claire Robbins) and was immediately touched by her beauty.

And my silent question "what exactly is it about her" made me realize that my very first heavy crush in my teens was the almost exact double of this girl! :-) I don't mean to go too deep when it comes to the subject, I just like to ponder and muse and fill this forum with stuff of no great importance! :-)

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When I study the subjects and who responded last to a given one I keep reading that the last message posted in this thread was by someone named "housebutler" yet there is no post by him/her to be seen. Did you cut him/her, Khan?

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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Unless you meant to say you just ordered a pallet of 1 TB external hard drives (which I am pretty sure is how badandy orders them :) ), I don't think you're going to catch up to him. But it won't hurt to try...unless the drive crashes and you end up hurting yourself or someone else over the lost of all the "data."


Oh, I know I'll never catch up with badandy. He is the undisputed king of porn collectors. My collection, at the moment, consists of only 1.5 TB! Amazingly enough there is a lot of stuff I haven't even seen yet. As someone else once stated, maybe the fun is in the search and discovery of something new and in the collecting itself for us OCD types. :-)

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