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06-06-15  05:15pm - 3487 days #5
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Thanks, LPee23.

The weed thing is at least partly due to the Southern California culture; it's on billboards (all the "doctors" that will write you a prescription), clothing, bumper stickers, and there seem to be as many dispensaries--since it's all medicinal, of course --as there are coffee places.

I guess if you're into it, have fun, though I'm mostly indifferent; it's about as interesting and as profound as people posting photos of their food. Though there's a little bit of disconnect if you gab about "health" food and organic crap, whilst extolling your love of something that's frequently consumed through inhaling its smoke. And this isn't just porn star-level intellect, it's also an unfortunate part of Southern California. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-02-15  07:39pm - 3491 days #8
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I tend to participate more on the ADT forum but although they tend to mostly stick to porn.


They also have porn stars as members, right? I know we have a few webmasters as members but I don't remember the last time any of them have posted. (Admittedly, I've just come back to PU after a few months break, so if I'm mistaken, please excuse my ignorance.)

Still, pessimism aside, I've always loved how PU has remained civil. Yes, a growing number of other sites have started to grow up as well, even in their comments section, but as long as I've been a member PU has been consistent in this regard.

And the absence I mentioned above was because of a kind of burned out feeling I got from other sites. It was not from any disinterest in Porn Users or porn, just a disgust from the trollish cynicism that you encounter when trying to participate more publicly in the web. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-02-15  12:48am - 3492 days #2
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Hmm...I guess since you like that particular fetish so much and they are now all gone it was worth it--and certainly hope it's just a case of retirement and nothing more serious. I'm into it as well, but I've never bought anything off C4S, nor have I ever been one to seriously "follow" a particular model. Whether it be social media generally or a personal site I've tried to keep a certain distance between myself and whoever makes the porn I happen to come upon and enjoy.

I will admit that lately, or at least since earlier this year, I've developed a bad habit of looking up a model or two (or however many a scene may have) from the latest video I've downloaded and see if they have a Twitter feed. The vast majority do, or at least the ones who are currently doing porn for a living, but they are all frankly interchangeable as far as I can tell.

Of those who go to the trouble of maintaining a personal account, they all seem to be some variant of a vegetarian stoner with a love for selfies and alcohol, which I guess is typical for a lot of women in their early twenties who aren't too inhibited with social media. Nothing wrong with any of this, of course, it's just breaks down the fantasy element of their performances. (The boyfriend pic certainly offers a good reason as any to not be too devoted of a fan.)

In a sense I missed the mystery or at least the sense of anonymity from a few years ago, even with the occasional disappearing act, like with Nico above. I've found a couple of women who currently have a non-porn web presence years after retiring, which still seems a little weird when you can just open up a ten year old video of theirs on a hard drive like it was shot yesterday.

Hopefully this will be the case with Nico as well. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

12-19-14  07:08pm - 3656 days #4
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Over the years I've become more attracted to what SuicideGirls terms "alternative pin-up girls," as opposed to the blonde armies of Fox News or Hugh Hefner.

Instead, I really like someone like MythBusters' Kari Byron (well, formerly of MythBusters since her and the "Build Team"'s departure this summer). And if you've ever seen the show, Kari is obviously not just a pretty face but handy with a welding torch and can drive around heavy equipment (so, if your fantasies involve bubbly redheads who can operate a crane, she's your gal ).

And her closest porn equivalent, at least when she has her hair dyed orange-redish, is the amazing Proxy Paige. Though on the show Byron was an admitted germaphobe, which Paige is anything but, considering the nature of her line of work and the extremity of some of her performances (hint: she's an accomplished anal fister). Amazingly, she only has a couple of small tattoos, but doesn't have fake breasts, lips, or anything else beyond the obvious hair coloring. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

12-19-14  05:49pm - 3656 days #2
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Though it doesn't really count, the only one that comes close for me is Kink's Pissing.com. Of course, it hasn't actually closed, it's just not updating, and Kink.com is obviously still going strong, at least until San Francisco gets infected with that social conservative disease that seems to eventually ruin so many fun things in America.

I'm curious what some of the sites have closed for you. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

12-08-14  05:19pm - 3667 days #10
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Originally Posted by Thomas20:


Not that those are my bag but how is, for example, female ejaculation (if such as thing exists) extreme.


My guess is that it's listed so as to cover what could possibly--and, let's admit, in many cases is--just peeing. I thought watersports had already been banned years ago, and "female ejaculation" was a grey area (not literally, of course; it's at most slightly milky... ).

Here's the kicker from the article in what the real result will be: "While the measures won't stop people from watching whatever genre of porn they desire, as video shot abroad can still be viewed, they do impose severe restrictions on content created in the UK, and appear to make no distinction between consensual and non-consensual practices between adults." (My emphasis.)

You can't get rid of this stuff, so people will just look elsewhere for their kinky jollies, and most of continental Europe will be more than happy to fulfill it. Still, sad to see watersports, female ejaculation, and fisting banned--those are like my trifecta of great content. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

12-08-14  05:06pm - 3667 days #15
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Great to have you back!

I figure if I make it to your age I will be heroically stubborn if a family member or caretaker ever dared to take away my Internets or hard drives! But who knows, maybe I'll be tired with my 50+ year-old porn collection by then, so my nurse/hospice android will just up my medication and then plug me into some virtual reality interactive porn. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

12-02-14  06:04pm - 3673 days #3
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I was hoping Cybertoad's "I'll be back" thread was true and that this would only be temporary...but maybe this will eventually turn out to not to be true either. At the very least, I hope CT is still lurking around here and reconsiders.

I haven't been participating much here in the last few weeks, but rest assured it's not PU. I was just sort of depressed with Internet commenting recently when I was participating on some other sites and started to get a little tired of their unquestionable echo chambers. Way too many sites and blogs suffer not only from rigid lockstep enforcement but a pretty serious hatred of any middle ground. You can't just say "I agree, good job." and move on; it must be 110% passion and enthusiasm or you're just weak-minded, indecisive, and possibly intolerant.

And it sounds like CT was thinking the same thing was starting to happen here, and that his views, at least the ones outside of porn, might not be welcome. But I thought PU has always been a great place for discussion and a wide range of opinions not totally welcome elsewhere. Ironically porn is one of the things that makes a lot of people not so tolerant; drop the "p" word and suddenly you're not so cool after all. Worse, this taboo is a great uniter of otherwise disparate groups; religious fundamentalists, social conservatives, and some of the more radical feminists.

Wishing you well, Cybertoad! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Dec 03, 2014, 03:08am (turboshaft: Spelling.)

11-09-14  11:59pm - 3696 days #5
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Sorry to hear that, pat362...I always thought Canadians were so nice, even their government! 🇨🇦 "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

11-07-14  11:04am - 3698 days #66
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LPee23, with a sense of humor like that I can see why you married her. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

11-07-14  10:59am - 3698 days #3
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Wasn't the logo for that workshop something like "Bend over and it won't hurt so much"?


No, I think that's what they say when you don't qualify for financial aid!

But kudos to Harvard; kids in the U.S. always could use more positive sex ed, and I'm sure they can easily afford such things with a multibillon dollar endowment (billions of condoms? millions of gallons of lube? the possibilities are endless!). I think my last sex education was only a few brief classes in the first two years of high school, and frankly talking positively about anal sex shouldn't be that scary of a taboo for Harvard students in 2014. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

11-07-14  10:38am - 3698 days #10
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Why would the politicians want to take porn away from themselves?


Back in 2010 there was a Florida state legislator caught on camera with a topless pic (though it turned out to be only a joke in an email ) on his laptop while listening to a floor debate over an abortion bill.

But it might be worse that I immediately thought I recognized it as a pic from one of ALSScan's Caribbean shoots. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Nov 07, 2014, 10:45am

11-07-14  10:28am - 3698 days #9
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Two years ago every one thought Obama would confiscate guns. There was a 300 increase in sales and a 200% increase in sales to women. Gun were not confiscated but the result was ammo became scarce from panic and I would say the aggression of many anti-gun groups and the healthcare issues fuels the huge tilt.


A lot of gun lovers may hate Obama because of what he could possibly, maybe, sometime in the future, do to the 2nd Amendment, but I'm thinking the industry must love it. And they usually have more issues with states than the federal government. (For example, Beretta fucking hates Maryland, and is moving to Tennessee in protest next year.)

But I can't see any of the new politicians-elect doing much about porn, if anything at all. At most it's usually a Supreme Court or local issue, and with immigration-ISIS-Ebola fearmongerin' to drum up, porn is a pretty low on the list. Hell, I'm betting a lot of them couldn't even imagine what we're up to in our depraved corner of the web. 😮

Of course with one New York district electing a 30-year-old to the House, who knows? Oh, and you just have to smile at the fact that Utah elected a black Republican woman named Mia Love to congress. Even my head is spinning!

And generally speaking, many states are slowly turning more socially libertarian, with conservatives staying quieter about gay marriage while more states voted in favor of ballot measures to legalize marijuana. So if nothing else, you'll have a greater chance of being more legally baked so as to not get so upset about things. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Nov 07, 2014, 10:32am

10-28-14  01:00am - 3709 days #30
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


On the latter one I have to give her [Sasha Grey] props for having a plan and being able to use the medium to jump start her life.


Thanks for the interview link, jberryl69. I guess it sucks for her fans that she's no longer making porn, but I love how she mentions in the interview that she told her fans she was moving on from porn with a FB post: "Don't worry, I haven't found Jesus!"

She is certainly more interesting than probably most people give her credit for, and it's good to have a "serious" interview that's about more than just her porn career (albeit, her first novel is erotica). Funny how these interviewers are always super alert and hanging on their subject's every word when it's a porn star. 😍

There was an hour long interview with Nina Hartley in early 2013 that was the same way; done by somebody outside the industry, not judgmental or too silly, but still lighthearted enough to keep it funny and interesting. I wish there were more of these with current or recently former performers, instead of the litany of melodramatic horror stories of people who turned against the industry or those insufferable "What are your turn ons/offs?" idiot interviews done within the industry. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Oct 28, 2014, 01:10am

10-27-14  11:17pm - 3709 days #39
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LPee23, regarding a couple of your comments here:

Originally Posted by LPee23:


This has been a fantasy of mine

Originally Posted by LPee23:


I feel like doing some porn shoots would be on the short list of things that I would like to do in life.


I was wondering, what exactly is your main goal for this? Is it just being able to shoot a little porn that could be sold somewhere else--ostensibly, making it amateur porn? Or is it to shoot and then distribute it through your own paysite as well, in the process theoretically making it "professional"?

The thing is, as this thread is showing, these are two separate hurdles, since no matter how good/hot/nasty what you create is, it still has to be distributed somehow, ideally for at least a little profit and recognition. 😎 "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

10-13-14  06:20pm - 3723 days #8
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


If we ever made any of our shoots public, it would be where the model always kept her face hidden in a Mardi Gras mask.

Originally Posted by pat362:


Let me first say that if you decide that your wife will appear on screen than please do not use mask or any other method to hide her face. I don't think I'm alone in saying that a porn scene where you do not see the performers face is not worth watching. I'd also like to point out that the people who use mask think that their identity will remain private but it's a foolish notion because anybody who knows them personally will recognize them by what is visible and by their voice.


I second that--no masks, please! :

Frankly, I think masks are the black mark of amateur porn, and shows that while the performers are brave enough to have sex on camera they aren't willing to show their faces. Personally, I love porn's unspoken agreement that the people on camera not only are willing to be seen but want to be seen, and masks really take away from that. Even if it's not amateur porn I still find them creepy and weird, especially the bring-out-the-gimpness when men wear them.

And even with the masks I don't think you are ever truly anonymous. The Internet and digital media have brought a sort of permanence to everything we don't necessarily want to be remembered for. Depending on where you work, I think work-related problems could be minimal to non-existent--though I'm assuming you're not a public servant à la a crotch-bulging ex-congressman like Anthony Weiner.

Family and friends...they can be different. I have a range of friends, and while I doubt any of them think of me as a heartless prude many of them probably don't imagine me to be quite so utterly depraved as I sometimes (okay, frequently) sound here on PU.

As for my family? Well, I sometimes worry what would happen if I was killed in a car accident, or even just injured enough to go to the hospital for a few days. I can only imagine how my family would react the instant they wake up my computer or make the mistake of turning on the wrong external hard drive.

And this is only stuff I collected, not produced myself. There's going to be a long trail of digital bread crumbs and that's something that would be virtually impossible to hide from children, especially once they get on the Internet or spend enough time on one of your computers. The documentary After Porn Ends deals with this a bit and it really does affect parents, especially the judgmental parents of their kids' friends (who, of course, never exactly explain how they knew/found out they had done porn).

Of course, you can just totally ignore my comments; I'm neither a professional nor a guy with a porn-loving wife who would consider such a thing (or even just a wife). Just my . "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-05-14  12:24am - 3762 days #14
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Suffice it to say that there are now a bunch of celebrities regretting uploading content to a cloud based system. that and probably taking the pics in the first place.


It's quite possible none of those involved purposely uploaded or backed up said content, or were even aware that their iPhones were set to do so. And let's be honest here; who among us are aware of all our current privacy settings on our phones? It's easy enough to turn off this automatic backup bullshit on an iPhone, but given the vulnerability of its iCloud service it should've originally been set to "Off" by Apple's engineers in the first place.

Perhaps, as many "Don't do X" critics have been hinting at, Apple figured consumers would take their late CEO's bizarre anti-porn stance seriously and "buy and [sic] Android phone" instead. More realistically, though, a heroic amount of porn is processed through Apple products, including their phones. And in the modern digital age it shouldn't be too much to ask for a company as rich as Apple (and now as "outraged," too) to actually provide some decent security for its users' privacy--regardless of what the content is.

Who knows, maybe the celebrities will sue Apple as well and it may actually take some responsibility as a result. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-04-14  11:52pm - 3762 days #2
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The last thing I saw in her in was a season two episode of Louie, playing a somewhat exaggerated version of herself (much like C.K. does). Here's a clip of her trying to give some advice to Louis, who of course responds in the most inappropriate way imaginable.

"It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-02-14  07:19pm - 3764 days #10
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


The only watertight solution would be to have a fresh test for every performer, for every shoot day. The problem there is prohibitive costs. The two obvious solutions would be (a) to force studios to front that cost, or (b) to make STI tests free for everyone (i.e. the government pays).

Originally Posted by Pat362:


I don't believe that current technology allows for a truly accurate same day test and therefore doing that will be a waste of money.


That would be a lot of testing, especially given how often some performers could be shooting, though it would be better than nothing, and certainly better than the current monthly testing regimen. But it still wouldn't be foolproof. "False positives," like the one in this recent moratorium, only make people stop shooting and take a few extra, if temporary, precautions.

"False negatives," on the other hand, could lead to a lethal sense of good health, since the window period for enough HIV antibodies and antigens to develop could be too long for a test to detect them. And it's why AIDS/HIV has become a global pandemic; though ultimately deadly, it works so slowly that it allows for a lot of transmission before it can even be detected with a test, much less show symptoms.

Sadly, the bottom line is no matter how risky porn will be for its performers health-wise it will always be in enough demand to justify those risks. And while I enjoy the occasional boy-girl scene but would be fine with my favorite performers doing only solo or girl-girl (though even those are still risky, especially given how hardcore they have progressed in recent years), I know this just isn't a workable reality for most performers.

It's going to take a cultural change within the industry; primarily to step away from unprotected, or possibly all, "outside work," whether it's called escorting or "private scenes." And maybe to even expect a certain amount of monogamy in their private sexual lives generally, especially if they wish to work more than a few months and avoid the risk of shortening their lives as well.

Maybe I'm asking too much, but I really hope not. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-27-14  10:33pm - 3770 days #6
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Well, this post/story/whatever-you-call-it has got me.

But it does remind me of Dr. David Hager. If you've never heard of him, he's a conservative Christian gynecologist who was a Bush II-era FDA appointee, and was also accused by his ex-wife of some rather, uh, libertine sexual practices. But most weirdly (to me, at least), she claimed: "He would say, 'Oh, I didn't mean to have anal sex with you; I can't feel the difference.'" Her pricelessly accurate response: "'Well then, you're in the wrong business.'"

I guess if even a gynecologist can't feel, or at least claim to feel, the difference--with his own wife, no less--then anyone can mistakes. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-24-14  08:45am - 3773 days #6
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Not sure about the amount of anal content, martinlongbow, but it doesn't look to be the sole focus (certainly not on the level that some of the extreme sites are trying these days). Looks more wet/pissing-centered with most scenes being group.

They are one of the few sites I've seen that is offering 4k videos, which they also call "Ultra HD." Must be gigantic file sizes, but would certainly be good for anyone who wanted their porn collection to make use of future higher res devices...or is watching their porn in a digital theater. (Not all modern displays will even support resolutions over 1920x1080, particularly the more affordable priced TVs and monitors). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-04-14  07:00pm - 3793 days #24
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


Here's another one, does anyone recognize her?


Looks like a model named Katerina, or "Kelly H." on House of Taboo. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-04-14  05:33am - 3794 days #5
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I have AT&T UVerse, but not the fastest speed, as it requires their TV-landline-Internet package--totally obsolescent, in my opinion. They're decent in terms of reliability, as it's only gone down for a few minutes at a time. But speeds are definitely not the fastest, and they supposedly do have a monthly data cap, though I've never reached it (they say they will send you an email).

Comcast of course recently had that incident with a customer who was trying to cancel (Fool!), and I dread the day I eventually have to switch or cancel my AT&T service. Seriously, you start to think hostage negotiation would be easier than trying to cancel your fucking Internet service...though maybe it's us who are the hostages in these situations.

But the bigger issue, as I've mentioned before, is that municipalities have to start treating Internet access as a utility. This isn't even a socialist pipe dream; it's what happened in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and they have some of the fastest speeds in the U.S. as a result.

Unfortunately, the various media giants don't want to relive their death grip on providing Internet access (i.e., profit), much less spend the money to install fiber optics in more rural areas. And Chattanooga did have to battle various groups in court to do this, including, yup, Comcast (I'm sensing a theme here...). But building a national public highway network, installing phone, water, and power utilities wasn't cheap or easy either. So, if the U.S. is serious about remaining a leader in technology and communication, then this should be the public infrastructure project of this era. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

07-25-14  07:46pm - 3803 days #20
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


Anyone recognize her?


Hunter Bryce?

Kinda sad, but if it's Hunter, then she passed away in 2011. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

07-25-14  02:28am - 3804 days Original Post - #1
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Sorry if that title makes no sense, but it's the best way to describe this story I heard on The Daily Show about Megumi Igarashi.

If you haven't heard of her yet, Igarashi is a Japanese artist who was recently arrested over distributing 3D scans made of her vagina so people could use them to make plastic kayak molds. (Yes, that last sentence is equal parts awesome and absurdity, but it's actually what happened.)

As many PU'ers know, the genitals, or at least the vagina, can be a taboo subject in Japan, specifically when displayed, even in porn. So for emailing plans to sponsors of her crowdsourcing project she was arrested for distributing what could be considered obscenity. The controversy is that this is seen as hypocritical when there are penis-worshipping festivals in Japan (which I guess would only be suitable for making a mold for a personal submarine).

Here's a short YouTube video of her being interviewed making some of her other vagina-related art (non-explicit, but it explains why she's doing this), like a "Hole-In-One" model of a putting green. And if you're interested, here's the original page for the crowdfunding campaign, which is somehow more insane than I even imagined. Obviously, a few things got mangled in translation, and about half the illustrations look like storyboards of dreams I've had. But the text is generally clear, if unintentionally entertaining. Some of the highlights: "The World’s First 3D Scanned Peach on the Beach," "mold by hand is not suitable for making large art pieces such as a pussy door, a pussy car, or a pussy boat" (well, duh), and "I would love to give you my data of pussy."

If it's not clear, I don't exactly find this offensive, and certainly not worthy of arrest. She only spent five or six days in jail before being released, but it's still stupid and puerile that she was ever arrested in the first place. I hope she's cleared of all charges and the Japanese government realizes how silly this looks to most of the modern world. Though at least for once it's not the U.S. being the prudish country. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

07-23-14  04:13pm - 3805 days #21
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


Sorry turboshaft! No offence intended, just a stab in the dark.


Don't worry, sometimes I think I was born an angry old crank (and pretty hard to tell at times, judging by what I've written on PU!).


Originally Posted by AWpress:


Anyhow, I think I'd agree that there's a certain charm to an all natural girl, sans cosmetics, crumpled up in bed (or out hiking!).


I agree, though I still have a weakness for somebody like Proxy Paige, who in the last few years has had her hair in colors not easily found in nature:



Granted, the pure nastiness of her performances helps, so I'm not necessarily into an entire site of such models (e.g.; Suicide Girls, Burning Angel, etc.), but certain individuals obviously churn my butter. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

07-22-14  11:35pm - 3806 days #18
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


I'm going to take a stab in the dark, and guess that you might be a baby boomer (born in the 50's); grew up with the overly styled hairdos of the 60s, which went out of fashion by the time you were a young man (amidst 70s 'back to nature' trend, with long flowing locks pouring from every location).


Geez, I'm not that old, and I'm guessing you haven't clicked on my username (and I'm not lying about my age there, either). I mean I was born after WWII, but way after...by about forty years!

By the time I was a young man was the late '90s-early 2000s--perhaps I still count as one, though I'm older than you. I don't really remember the big 'dos of the 1980s but looking back on them now they generally look fairly ridiculous to me, and that includes guys as well. But ten years earlier, the hair wasn't always so outrageous, even if the clothes might have been (seriously, bell-bottoms and platform shoes: WTF?!).

Today, of course, you can basically get away with any look, and it's not so much styling (or obvious styling, at least), as it is things like coloring and dyeing, which plenty of women I know have. I guess I'm basically not a fancy guy; even the prom/wedding look that women will considerable spend time and money on for rare "fancy" occasions has never done anything for me, and I don't find it at all natural or particularly worth the effort. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

07-17-14  11:51pm - 3811 days #16
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


The beehive seems like a lot of word, when I was a kid in the 60's it was easy, a flat top, or buzz and went on about your day.


This reminded me of an old Simpsons episode where Homer's mom remembers the moment she became a '60s radical--it was seeing Joe Namath's long hair on TV. Grandpa dismisses Namath, saying he looks like a girl.

But Johnny Unitas:

there's "a haircut you could set your watch to."
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07-16-14  06:09pm - 3812 days #15
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Originally Posted by biker:


This is the hair style I always loved on women.


It also helps if you're Betty Page.

She reminds me a little of Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman (yes, I'm a helpless sucker for dark hair ).

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07-16-14  07:52am - 3812 days #11
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Remember the Beehive; the hair style of the sixties. My sister wore her hair like this in high school.


Ah, the beehive...the trademark of every Far Side women. Of course, it's updated cousin the Bumpit isn't much better. (Basically a scaled down beehive, with the help of some sort of insert. As a famous example, Sarah Palin frequently looks like she wears one, though it's sometimes considered a trashier style.)

I've always been a less-is-more kind of guy; that is, less styling, the better. Sure, styles come and go (and sometimes come back, there's really only so much you can do with hair before you're wearing a wig), but I've never looked at a big '80s-style big hairdo and seriously thought it was all that attractive.

Ali Macgraw a decade earlier didn't look so bad without big hair. Or look at this photo of Sharon Tate from that gloriously trashy Valley of the Dolls, especially compared to the hair of the other two women. Frankly, the less was done, the less WTF were we thinking! reactions I have.

I should be one to talk though...I've got long hair myself (but no big 'do or beehive ), and of my female friends the styles include nearly everything (and nearly every color), again, except perhaps for the beehive.

I wonder how long before I'll be able to be look back and embarrass myself! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Jul 16, 2014, 06:10pm (turboshaft: Fixed link.)

07-11-14  05:53pm - 3817 days #27
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


And with porn it's not quite as simple as inspecting an onion in the produce section.


Yet, I also frequently tear up when I am watching porn. Wait...I-I'm not the only one who does this, right?

But seriously, I disagree with all this gloom and doom talk, and I don't really think porn has lost its "sparkle"--which may just be a wet spot, who knows--that instead we're really in a glut of choices and quantity. So rather than having a few select great studios or sites, there are pretty decent choices all around, but so many that it can look kind of bland and overwhelming. Everybody doing everything (or at least experimenting) can get kind of boring after a while.

So, while I'm not one for Twitter feeds, conventions, or private cam shows, it's more than what most of us could've dreamed about a couple of decades ago when the Internet was known only to a few nerds, and not for any perverted reasons. And though I don't feel that old--cross fingers!--I've been to more than enough porn shops in my time to know that I much prefer the digital version. We should all be so grateful.

Don't get me wrong; I have some "good ol' days" feelings myself. Like when Belladonna or Aurora Snow were still performing on camera (or not becoming a mom!), which doesn't make me feel old so much as I worry that perhaps they've moved on with their lives more than I have. Or back before ALSScan did boy-girl content, or whose models weren't the girlfriends/hangers-on of Charlie Sheen. (Really, as dirty as the site could get, it all seemed like innocent fun until the moment you realized you were looking at a woman who got boned by the guy who played Chris in Platoon. It just breaks my heart. ).

So it's maybe for the best that I enjoy the present and look toward the future.
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07-07-14  06:52pm - 3821 days #11
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Here is part of why I'm dissatisfied.

1-Many of the models being promoted tend to have tattoos which of itself isn't always a problem but these women tend to have them in the wrong place and/or they have some very large ones.
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8-Where have all the good male performers gone. I know not everybody cares about that but I always did because if there is a guy in the scene than I prefer that he not look like a refugee from a puck rock concert. I always apply the same rules for guys as I do for girls and that includes tattoos. If he as a ton of them then it's going to be a distraction.


Not to sound too ageist, but I think this is a generational thing, as a lot of younger/newer performers have tattoos, just as a lot of younger people in general have them. It's also not exactly a conservative industry to begin with, and except for some limited "glamour"-type stuff, tattoos aren't really a deal-breaker for most sites. And I still almost always prefer them over the grosser body modifications out there; breast implants, lip injections, labiaplasties. (Admittedly, that last one appears to be rare--all shapes and sizes are more than welcome in my book! )

But some performers do make some pretty radical modifications over the years, and while I am not one to tell people what to do with/to their bodies, I understand how it could take some fans by surprise. For example, I've watched a few recent scenes with Kirsten Plant, a Czech girl who currently rocks a more Suicide Girls-esque look. But compare that to what she looked like only a few years ago--very different, to say the least. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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You guys would all be pretty surprised ( maybe not ) how far in I am about our Constitutional rights.


Maybe not; you've been pretty outspoken here at PU (the more the merrier, I say).

I just wish more understood that this works both ways. For example, I was reading an article the other day about how "patriotic"/flag clothing looks gaudy and, as some liberals like pointing out, technically goes against the Flag Code, though perhaps only in the sense that they think conservatives are wearing it. But the idea that there should even be a Flag Code, much less that it's something that should be enforced, is completely missing the point of what living in a free society means. You'd think one issue Americans could agree on is that it's usually a bad idea having laws telling people how to fucking dress!

Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


How about i'm gay and wanting to get married do not like it too bad I have rights to pursue my happiness. I want to own 3000 guns don't like it too bad its my constitutional right.


Man, that's going to be one big ass, heavily armed gay wedding!

Again, like the flag issue above, all shades of the political spectrum seem to confuse "liberty" and "compulsion." Marriage freedom is not forced gay marriages, nor are gun laws meant to be minimal arsenal requirements, or even registering for a draft. (Seriously, we make registering for Selective Service less onerous than renewing a driver's license.)

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07-02-14  07:46am - 3826 days #27
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Originally Posted by pat362:


The weapon of choice in the 1600 to 1700 was a musket rifle.

Originally Posted by AWpress:


I think this is key; back then, the citizenry could conceivably be as well armed as the state. If organised into militias (as the amendment prescribes) it was a decent anti-tyranny clause. That balance of citizen vs state power rose with the invention and proliferation of firearms, and fell with the combustion engine (just look at the 'springtime of nations' in the 1860s- an armed and organised population could literally rise up and beat back the military, and indeed that's how many modern republics were founded.)


I doubt if citizens or militia could really be armed as well as the state even back then. Militia and minutemen brought their own weapons when then could, but it's not as if any owned a cannon or warship. And the Founding Fathers likely understood the difference and limit of what "arms" practically meant, even if they could never conceive of things as destructive as white phosphorous, depleted uranium, or nuclear bombs.

But they also understood the value of having citizens participate in the militia, another part of the same amendment. It's just that the U.S. is about as far away from a citizen's army or Revolutionary War-style militias as possible. (The closest modern day example would be neutral Switzerland, which has mandatory conscription and a large reserve force, who store their personal military weapon at home. The U.S. doesn't allow anything close to that.) Instead we have a rather large standing, all-volunteer force, mostly separate from the rest of the population in terms of economic and education. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

07-02-14  06:34am - 3827 days #26
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I am sure many of you are going to say well sure firearms, and if you choose to think that, well you can blame that same thinking for porn being eliminated. Our first and second amendment rights protect taking away porn shows the control, taking away firearms is about control.

Many people ignorantly look at firearms and think ending the use ends violence, no it ends your constitutional right.
Stripping porn from the internet is the same thing, accept it goes after our first amendment rights.

No one has to like or want firearms, no one has to like or want porn. But you start attacking the right that allow us the choice it will end badly.


In a way, both porn and gun rights are about people going around shooting off at inappropriate times and places. (Sorry, it just seems that criticisms of porn and guns frequently degenerate into ad hominem attacks about sexual inadequacy.)

Personally, I don't really mind porn (obviously) or guns, but their respective cultures definitely create problems that I do not identify with. To outsiders, I'm sure the porn industry comes off as a depraved, greedy, misogynist business with the moral compass of Alex from A Clockwork Orange. Just read some of the negative comments on that article I linked in the recent thread I started about rosebuds (not the plant, for those who didn't experience the joy of learning what that term means in porn).

Likewise, the gun industry, and the culture at large that supports it, appears much the same way to those who aren't enthusiasts, much less gun owners. Just take the open carry movement, and its penchant for making the news every time it stages a "protest," or whatever, at a certain chain and people freak the fuck out when a Target shopper walks into the store with a gun on his hip. (To be fair, the store is named Target--even I had to smile at that.)

Open carry is controversial among gun owners, yet obviously has its supporters. And it's there; just like someone as controversial as Max Hardcore is in porn, and has his fans/rubberneckers. Neither of them may be good PR for the rights they are ultimately defending, but that doesn't mean banning them will necessarily do much good either.

Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Freedom is not about, guns, churches,porn, or speech. Its about the right to be free to enjoy them as we choose. We remove one, we allow them all to be removed.


So glad you said this, CT.

I've lost count of the number of times I've read or heard something in defense of "liberty," only to realize the person had no idea what the fuck that word actually meant. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-21-14  04:56pm - 3837 days #18
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Maybe I missed a post but where did anyone say that watching football has the same effect as watching porn?


I think the analogy is more that both porn and professional sports are businesses, and the bottom line will always be the priority. And not to be cynical (okay, who am I kidding? ), but you could argue that most changes were driven not for some greater moral stance but to ensure the continuation of the business.

For example, the 2257 regulations are quite strict--arguably the one law any production won't even think of violating--but if the laws were suddenly changed tomorrow (say to seventeen, instead of eighteen) I doubt most would even hesitate for a second to shoot younger performers. Sites will even boast about such borderline "she just turned eighteen" milestones as if they're real achievements.

That being said, I don't see either professional sports (particularly, the NFL) or porn significantly changing their business because of health or moral concerns. If there is an audience, and it can generate revenue, then that is reason enough to carry on. Tackle football is well known to cause injuries--the majority of which are suffered by kids, as they make up the majority of players--but we will still watch it. And we will still watch porn, because we enjoy it.

Not too pile on sports too much, but the NFL isn't alone. A couple weeks ago comedian John Oliver did a piece on his new show explaining how evil FIFA was, taking advantage of the world popularity of soccer (or football to everyone outside of the U.S. ), leading to riots in World Cup host Brazil. Yet, despite all the controversy, he still loves the sport and won't stop watching it. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-21-14  03:58pm - 3837 days #8
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


While we're on a roll here, here's another unknown model from DDF.


Looks like Arina--or Becky Millar, depending on the site--who has scenes on a couple of DDF sites.

(BTW, I did an advanced search on DDF and found her almost immediately.) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-18-14  08:43pm - 3840 days #9
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Sadly, you're right, pat. There are five big reasons so many professional athletes file for bankruptcy after retirement (on top of other problems like injuries, education, employment, etc.). The percentage of NFL players alone filing for bankruptcy within five years is a depressing 78%.

And that's after an average $1.9 million annual salary and $6.65 million "lifetime" earnings--numbers that are incomprehensible to all but a few Americans. Worse, the NFL has an annual revenue around $10 billion (with a "b"), which they apparently hope to raise to an unholy $25 billion by 2027. It all makes porn sound positively quaint--of course, our culture teaches exactly the opposite. I guess that's why I've never been into sports; I just find them too morally repugnant.

As for the rosebuds...I'm still not sure what to make of them. Or even people thanking me for posting an article about them, for that matter (though you're all very welcome!), but at least they can spawn an interesting discussion. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Vice posted an article about the rising (blooming?) popularity of rosebuds. You know; the prolapse.

It's obviously a controversial subject within porn and definitely raises questions about the physical risks of performing, especially the more extreme acts people are dreaming up. The article really only mentions Sheena Shaw, Roxy Raye, and Amy Brooke. Dirty Garden Girl is linked, though not by name, and HotKinkyJo's stomach-bulging acts also go unmentioned, and that's probably for the best.

I've got mixed feelings about this myself. I'm not on the extreme end of some of the commenters of the article, but I can't exactly give an unconditional thumbs up to an obviously physically demanding (possibly damaging) act either. Roxy Raye seems to genuinely enjoy it on a certain level, while HotKinkyJo's talent is unique, to say the least. I'm not sure if such acts were inevitable, but I hate to ask: did porn have to come to this?

And if you find this subject too upsetting, here's a photo of an actual rose. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-15-14  06:51pm - 3843 days #13
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


I remember when Steve Jobs said, "Folks who want porn can buy an android phone." I took his advice and did buy an android, and I am very happy with my S4 mini right now. I don't even use porn apps or watch porn on my S4 mini, but it's the principle of it. When you're looking at spending $400 on a smartphone, and iPhones and Androids are both very good, I'd rather spend my money with a company that is committed to openness.


I find it hilarious that Steve Jobs hated porn while being head of a company whose hardware and software has been used to produce a lot of porn. It's a sort of poetic justice for a guy who may have only hated animal products more (which are probably being gobbled up by those horrible porn peddlers anyway).

Just speaking for myself, the amount of porn I've saved and viewed with Macs alone could have busted a few turtlenecks.

But I don't take these corporate philosophies and politics too seriously, which seem to get more superficial the "greater" the cause. Hence the pinkwashing of products that really have nothing to do with "fighting" breast cancer, much less improving health.

Or just as worse, the constant corporate calls of "Support the Troops" to get consumers to buy shit from American companies that squirrel away billions in income overseas. (Yes, including Apple, as well as numerous other corporate tax-evaders.) Maybe this is why they ask us to do the supporting, since they're doing everything imaginable to avoid supporting them through paying taxes. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Though I'm not sure it would qualify as immature, rather than just the inevitable abuse of power and influence that comes with growth, but Google as a corporation has become quite creepy over the years.

There's the issue of using its Street View project to not just photograph roadways but vacuum up information from unsecured networks.

Or Google Glass, also raising concerns about privacy (as well as the risk of looking like a time-traveling nerd).

And creepiest of all, the friendly relationship its executives share with the NSA's leadership. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by thirstyfish:


While AB 1576 on the surface seems to be an effort to protect California porn performers (which it may indeed do), beneath the waterline there is a larger agenda. Whether that agenda is accidental or or by design is unclear.

Since the Federal and state governments don't exactly have a sterling record regarding health and safety (not to mention privacy), one might conclude the larger agenda is not accidental.
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AB 1576 and the Adult Film Performers Transmission Behaviors and STI Prevalence study are examples of 'the death of a thousand cuts'.


I'm not one for conspiracy theories, though I am a perpetual and stubborn cynic, and I see AB 1576 as more along the rather predictable lines of whittling away at the state's porn industry than some grand puritanical plot (especially in a state like California). And in a bureaucracy as grand as the Golden State's, haranguing by way of increased regulation is nothing new.

"Worker safety" may not really be the only goal when there is a considerable amount of shaming and scrutiny of the very existence of the industry itself. And it's laughable to think that everyone who's in favor of greater porn regulation has its performers' health and safety in mind.

At the extreme end, there are those who if they got their way would outlaw the entire porn industry and physically brand its performers, if not have them summarily arrested and imprisoned without trial. On the more rational end are those who see the genuine risks in adult entertainment work and are fed up with how the industry mishandles them. Somewhere in the middle is where I think most fans end up; certainly not in favor of bans, but at least in favor of something to protect the real people who have to suffer the consequences.

But I honestly don't think the public would react much differently than they did a century ago when Upton Sinclair published The Jungle, a socialist exposé on the vile treatment of laborers, particularly immigrants, in the meat industry. But the result wasn't that something needed to be done about workers being killed trying to make sausages, but that consumers' sausages shouldn't have dead workers in them (and immigrants at that!). Would fans react that differently to what goes on behind the scenes in porn?

Just look at the response to condom requirements; we don't like the way they look--arguably a judgement call on male talent's genitals--not that they may one day save our favorite actresses from having to worry about their T cell counts. It's not that we don't care, however difficult empathy may be, but that we're conditioned not to through the fantasy in which most porn is presented. Ridiculous stage names, hilariously bad plots, and over the top sexual acts that could make many fans' sex lives feel unaccomplished in comparison. So it's easy to forget there could be deadly consequences to the craziness.

Originally Posted by thirstyfish:


Speculation: in twenty years porn will have gone the way of the bicycle riding, circus midway shows and Halloween. It will still exist in some tamed, institutional, 'nice and safe' form - but it will be almost unrecognizable from what it is today.


I'm not sure, twenty years is an eon in Internet years, but I hope this is not the direction it goes in.

Porn still seems to be getting progressively more extreme, if not universally accepted as it goes this way. It's why someone like HotKinkyJo is either a considerable talent among her fans/rubberneckers, and has a fan base; or is a bizarre, visceral (literally, in her case) freak show that is still considered unfit for much of porn.

Still, it's entirely possible that Showtime and HBO start showing more than just the bare butts and breasts like they are doing now. While porn handles the more graphic stuff, and in fewer jurisdictions. Either way their will always be a market, even if most people won't admit to it. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Jun 12, 2014, 03:58pm

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Google does suck for this decision, albeit not as much as Morality in Media, an organization that comes off as so hostile to the 1st Amendment that they would be more honest calling themselves Fascism through Faith. Still, in this day and age, this is no longer surprising from Google, which is less "Don't Be Evil," and more "We're So Big, Ethics Are Whatever We Say They Are."

And if you have problem with doing something, even in private, then simply don't do it. Seriously, that's the view of their chairman, Eric Schmidt: "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place." Admittedly, I probably have shared my love of porn with more people than can be considered polite or even necessary, but there are still people best left in the dark about it, regardless of the opinions of Mr. Burns-like executives.

Or maybe most normal human beings understand privacy to include the freedom to have personal thoughts, opinions, and creative ideas without subjecting them to the microscope of public opinion. How much liberty do we really have if we must prescreen every single thing we do or think as if it were going to be reviewed by an employer or FBI agent? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-10-14  10:19pm - 3848 days #38
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pat362, I hate to admit it, but I don't find those charts particularly shocking, though that could explain why I try to avoid reading about how the adult industry really works (and I why I feel like I need to take a cold shower whenever I visit South's site). I've previously read of those two STDs mentioned on the right side of the first poster being cause for missing a few weeks of work as "flu-related" reasons.

Not sure what the CDC will make of it, though they could certainly influence stricter laws beyond California, or at least the handful of places in America where shooting porn is actually legal. Still, labor laws, even concerning worker safety has never been a huge priority in this country--freedom for the "job creators" and all that. May make for a decent masquerade to further outlaw shooting porn, but there's nothing new there. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-02-14  08:02pm - 3856 days #16
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Originally Posted by biker:


Any of that reality stuff appears fake to me. Anyway, I really don't care to watch a girl drunk and acting foolish.


+1

Drunkenness is not a turn-on for me. Yes, alcohol lowers inhibitions but that's only because we're a little too prude, reserved, and morally restrained to fully enjoy life sober. I mean, does anybody really fantasize about a love interest having to get drunk before she would do anything with you?

For me, drinking is frequently a way to (temporarily) forget how unfair and unpleasant reality is, but not a way to fulfill any fantasy.
"It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-02-14  07:38pm - 3856 days #33
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


Enforcing condom use may make porn more safe, but so would banning porn altogether. Given the amount of severely damaged people who enter porn, and the amount of damage done to people in porn, it would be far better to ban it altogether. That would make it really safe.


Actually, that could make it really unsafe.

Remember, if something is totally against the law then only the lawbreakers can decide what rules they want to follow, if any, health and safety be damned. I'm sure there are some performers who would love to not have to have regular AIDS/HIV tests, and if porn was totally illegal they could do just that and make movies underground or "off the clock."

Because this is just a California bill (for now, I hope), producers can just go one state over. And it's not a ban on porn, not even technically a ban on bareback porn--since it doesn't matter if condoms appear in the final video, education isn't the point--only a work requirement. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-02-14  07:17pm - 3856 days #5
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The California regulations--Measure B and AB 1576--both specify anal and vaginal sex as requiring condoms, but not oral. Oral sex can classify a film as adult though (so, yay for Brown Bunny? ).

Measure B says: "The measure would require the use of condoms for all acts of anal or vaginal sex during the production of adult films."

The AB-1576 bill says: "Each time an employee performing in an adult film engaged in vaginal or anal intercourse, personal protective equipment was used to protect the employee from exposure to bloodborne pathogens."

As far as this specific fetish, I've seen the opposite in videos that have condoms; the condoms always come off for oral (I guess latex does taste kind of nasty). Can't begin to think of anything that would meet this requirement. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-30-14  11:25am - 3859 days #22
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Graymane, I'm sure plenty of studios and sites will be producing rubber-free material for as long there people to make it and watch it. Regulations be damned; they will leave the state/jurisdiction--and California will notice it--or others outside will get more business.

There is a third option, though I'm personally against it, where they will simply ignore the law, but I sincerely hope they do not do this. I'll be the first on PU to bitch and moan about our numerous unjust laws but porn is not the place to be breaking them. Regulations concerning health/safety and legal age are absolutely not worth going to court or jail over. It will do far more harm than good, and do nothing towards fixing the problems of proposed condom laws.

"Community standards" tests of obscenity are different, as few if any statutes exist as to when a porn movie clearly crosses the line into "obscene" territory, albeit I'm sure at least half my collection would both horrify and harden many a legislator to start enacting strict new laws. It's not as if there's some law that states three girls and one guy is allowed, but if it's four girls and one guy then it's, like, totally prosecutable.
"It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-30-14  11:13am - 3859 days #21
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


I don't think golden showers belong in this list. That's just my take.


Never would've guessed it. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-30-14  11:10am - 3859 days #5
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On a somewhat related note concerning speeds and such, Google has a new "Video Quality Report" that shows video streaming quality for about 90% of the time, based off of YouTube viewings. As I was expecting, my ISP rates SD, while quite a few competitors rate HD. The ones rating "low definition" I've never even heard of.

Probably a subtle way to make more people aware of their still largely beta Fiber service (which is unrelated to colon health, BTW) and pushing for more high speed Internet access overall. Always a good thing in my book. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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