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01-03-09  08:46am - 5850 days #18
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:



But, getting back on topic of "Worst Ever Porn Scene" I stumbled onto a comment about "Cum Hogs", holy crap what a load of shit! This site looks absolutely pathetic (IMHO, no offense if that floats your boat) but seriously though! It's good for a quick laugh, they can't be serious!! How much did they pay those girls to do that?


I think that this is an older site because whenever I see Kelly Wells as the first actress then I know they are using old material. She hasn't really done all that much in the last couple of years. If you give a pornstar the choice between wearing a stupid looking pig nose and doing a simple blow job as oppose to a full on sex scene for money. I'd think that the blow job would be the better deal. I have to agree that I do not see the appeal. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-02-09  11:05am - 5851 days #28
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Yes, this wonderful specimen of human society did have actual kiddie porn photos but from what I could gleam from the newsarticles those only accounted for about 1/3 of all the counts he was convicted on.

That is one of the reasons why I don't like the fact that they use both drawn images and real photos in the ruling. It blurs the line and opens the door for miscaridge of justice. If they had accuse and sentenced him solely on the photos and videos of real children then I think 20yrs is not nearly enough, but now you have created a possible precedence.

I'm not quite so ready to buy into Squirrel's grand conspiracy theories about big brother seeking to oppress us all. This law was passed in part because Congress, in the "findings" preamble that gets tacked on to the beginning of each bill that becomes law, didn't like the Supreme Ct finding that drawings of kiddie porn were not illegal in a prior case and so Congress concluded that drawings are essentially a gateway into actual kiddie porn material.

I'm also not ready to go that far, but it scares the hell out of me when politicians decide to supersede the law by passing special bills that render laws obsolete. We have a political system and a judicial system. If polticians think a law is not acceptable then let them make a case to the Supreme Court and let them decide. Politician usually have agendas that they are pushing forward. We have spent the last few years seeing exactly what that can mean with Bush and his cronnies. How many district attorneys lost their jobs because they wouldn't go along with certain policies because they knew them to be against the law?

It's also damaging because I think some people, albeit a small percentage, might get some pyschological relief from writing about or drawing this stuff as a means of staying away from the real thing or actual molestation

I actually think that it can be a release for some people.
I'd rather someone with some pedophilic tendecies gets his rocks off by watching the fake stuff compared to him/her paying someone to abuse a child so that they can get the real thing. No offense to anyone, but there is not a single human being being hurt by an artist drawing an adult having sex with a child. We may not agree with it morally, but the reality is just that. I know that this is not the case when a real adult as sexual relations with a child. On the subject of sex bewtween an adult & a child, I do not think there should be a double standard. If a man gets 20yrs for it then a woman who does the same thing should also get the same sentence. We know that it isn't. with all these teachers having sex with their male students. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Jan 02, 2009, 11:11am

01-01-09  08:01pm - 5851 days #17
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:


How right you are, Pat362. "The Doomsday Machine" is one of my all time favorite episodes, I haven't seen the remastered version, but damn that is a good one. Up there with "The Ultimate Computer" and "Mirror, Mirror".

Every episode was a morality play, they certainly did explore many facets of society. Remember "Plato's Stepchildren", with TV's first interracial kiss between Kirk and Uhura? That episode was banned in many countries for this reason. In the early 1990's, a visiting consultant from England was working with my company who was also a ST fan, and complained that he had never seen that episode. I quickly gave him the episode title and told him to rent a VCR and watch it!!!

Then DS9 did it again - with TV's first girl/girl kiss - when Dax and one of her former partners (as a symbiant) met again and had a pretty juicy kiss. There might have even been a little tongue there, although if there was it was discreet enough to keep you guessing ;-)

I actually liked Enterprise too, it had a few real gems, and some total dogs (like Voyager). Overall though, such a great series, that shows with all of our issues and struggles, we will survive.

Yes, as you can tell I'm an idealistic sensualist. "You bet your pointed ears, I am!".

Wow, it would be fun to watch some ST or SW with you, we always seem to get onto these topics in the forums!!!


The premise for Mirror Mirror was used in both DS9 and Enterpise. I enjoyed both of them but because Enterprise incorporated the old Constitution Class Starship then it gets my first vote.

TNG used the lesbian plot in one of it's episode because they also had a symbiote which had to be transplanted from a male diplomat to a female host. Dc Crushar was invloved. It was at the end of the episode so they never explored the relationship like DS9 did.

Most Star Trek based shows took about 3 seasons before they got really good. Enterprise was doomed from the beginning. I don't think they should ever have done it You cannot tell a story that we all know and invent an Enterpise that never existed before. It would have been far better if they had explored the beginning of the Federation and the launching of the 12 Constitution Class Starships. If you don't want to have new Kirk, Spock, McCoy and the gang then simply use Captain Pike or something.

I'm eagerly awaiting the new Star Trek movie. I miss not having a Start Trek TV show. I have the reruns but new material would be sweet. If we do get a new series from this latest movie then it probably will be the first time that a cancelled show became movies who became more TV shows who became more movies, and so forth. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-01-09  07:02am - 5852 days #16
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:


Do you remember the "Road Warrior"? That movie has the most horrific rape scene, when I saw this post that just flashed into my mind.

Sorry to be a downer, and I know that scene isn't porn as it is typically billed, but one thing that I find particularly disturbing and not arousing is forced sex or rough sex.

Others here have touched on it, where one partner is not enjoying it. While every one of us has their fancies, a concern is just how much you can find on the net these days and you don't have to look very hard, stomping, fisting, etc. Hentai can push the limits into the bizarre, sex with aliens and other such nonsense, but some scenes are downright disturbing.

So I suppose I may be misinterpreting the "Worst Ever Porn Scene" as the "Most Disturbing Porn Scene".

I'm probably pretty vanilla in my porn tastes, and steer quite clear of alot of what's out there, but every now and then you stumble across something that you try very hard to forget.


I remember that scene in Road Warrior, but I found the fact that they killed the girl right after to be even more disturbing. Strange how some things never leave us.

I suppose that if you look long enough you can find pretty much anything on the net. Whether it's with real people or in the case of hentai with animated charaters. You are likely to see far stranger things when dealing with animation because you are limited only to the imagination and talent of the artist. The strange thing about anime & hentai is that this is mostly produced by the Japanese and these are the same people who pixelate the private parts in their movies. Now that is F...K Weird.

I don't mind the vanilla porn because it's like food. No matter what my favorite food is. I'm sure that I'd get tired of it, if I had to eat all the time. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-01-09  06:47am - 5852 days #5
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


After reading replies to a fairly recent poll on the subject, I realized how unhip I was using Internet Explorer. But fuck it, it works fine for me most of the time.

But not always. Every long once in a while large pics from certain sites will open as MB-devouring .bmp files. One helpful chap around here told me that Firefox doesn't have that problem, and he was right! So I keep Firefox handy for that.

Sure, I could use Firefox for everything, but I have just never gotten around to it. It's my bad. Firefox does seem to download faster than IE.


Don't feel bad because I have both browsers and I keep going back to IE. I must say that Firefox allows for faster downloads and more of them. I will normally use it for downloading from a site while I surf with IE. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-31-08  07:45pm - 5852 days #13
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Boy, talk about false memory (mine). I remember "The Trouble With Tribbles" as being part of the original Star Trek. It was one of my favorite episodes, too!!


Your memory is fine on this instance. It's just that DS9 used old footage from the original episode to make their own. The storyline was farfetched, but it was pretty well done, all things considered. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-31-08  07:40pm - 5852 days #13
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Other things: 1. The guy keeps losing his boner (do we have to watch him fiddle around?); 2. "stab" fucking, where the guy rears back and then shoves it in, out, in, out; 3. the girl isn't into it.

Anybody remember Jennifer Avalon? Certainly one of the finest looking softcore models around. But she was definitely not into doing hardcore. Saw one very brief part of a scene with her getting it, and obviously not enjoying it, at Dr Hardcore.


I agree with you about limp dicks. That really breaks the fantasy when the guy is unable to keep wood during the scene. I think that's one of the reasons why I sometimes have a hard time with girls that only want to perform with their boyfriends. This usually occurs when the girl as a clause of only with bofriend, but he just isn't made to be one. Girls can fake it and get away with it. We aren't blessed with that ability.

I can't speak for that Jenniffer Avalon scene, but any scene where one or more of the performer(s) aren't into it is a major turn off. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-31-08  07:32pm - 5852 days #12
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Originally Posted by ramscrota:


By the way, pat362, I love your avitar. Where is it from? It looks like a Dr Seuss Creature!


You are correct. It is the Grinch. It's from one of my top 5 Christmas movies. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-30-08  07:11pm - 5853 days #11
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:


I totally agree with you pat362, such a great show, especially TOS ("no bloody A, B, C, or D"...or E for that matter!) - hope you recognize the quote.

If you haven't seen the remastered special effects for TOS, they are well worth it. The people that worked on this truly showed respect to TOS.

Thank you for your kind words, I sure hope it turns out as good as you and others are expecting. I just hope patience holds out, but I'm not gonna play the "I should have something but date such and such" card again.


I did see some of the remastered episodes. My favorite is the Doomsday Machine, because it kept the original stuff but was able to incorporate the new CGI stuff. I'm old enough to remember and more importantly appreciate a time when movies or TV shows had little budget for special effects or they simply didn't exist. Instead they had to rely on something called a story. Once you get past the cheesy special effects of Star Trek you the realise that the writing was pure genius.

What other show from then to now has tackled racism, bigatry, equality, drug abuse, war and a wide variety of subject. You often got a morale lesson without realising that you did.

One of my favorite scene, and if you are a fan then you will recognize it: Why did you stop me. I could have saved her. Don't you know what you did? He knows doctor. He knows.

I think the only series not to have anything to do with the original Star Trek is Voyager. TNG brought McCoy, Spock, and Scotty back. DS9 had the Tribble episode and Enterprise(what a mess) had the alternate Universe episodes. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-30-08  06:55pm - 5853 days #25
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I could be wrong on this one, but if I'm correct the man that was sentenced to 20yrs in prison did indeed have drawn images of children having sex with adults, but he also had a large collection of photos and maybe even videos of real children having sex with adults. To find someone guitly and sentence him to 20yrs is rather extreme for the drawn images, but frankly 20yrs is not nearly enough for someone who has the real thing. I'm all for free speech and the like, but once you mess with children then you forgo your right to live among society. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-30-08  06:39pm - 5853 days #2
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Originally Posted by ramscrota:


One of my dislikes is POV. The fact that the dude is usually videoing himself as he comes is a recipe for disaster.


This one was an outdoors anal entry. Lovely model, well-built stud with a large shlong. So far so good. But in the close-ups, you could see flies buzzing around the girl's butt-hole!



I have to say that the POV style is not my thing either. Mostly because you are limited to a very narrow view of the overall action.

I think I saw that scene myself, but I've seen others with flies and such. I can say that it is very distracting.

I'll add giant gapes. I know that it's gained a lot of popularity in recent years, but the appeal still eludes me. In the same idea prolapse anus. Once you've seen one of those it will stick with you for a Looooooong time. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-29-08  06:28pm - 5854 days #7
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:


Thanks pat362, I like Porncommodore. Kind of like the old C64 machine from the 80's...or like a Star Trek Commodore (even older).

Some fun ideas. I'm not going to get too hung up on the name though. I just want to finish getting this thing into a usable state. I've fixed alot of bugs and made it more usable, however I still have a ways to go. I had no idea going into this just how much work this would be.

Thanks for the suggestion!


I hadn't thought about the old commodore 64 console. I was thinking along the line of Star Trek. That show has and still affects my view of the world. No matter the name you give it. I'm sure that it will be great. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-28-08  10:01am - 5856 days #3
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:


I realize I should have posted to the "Need Collection Help" thread, and now I am being adequately punished.

I've had a little time over the past few days, and spent many hours working on little PC, only to discover that somebody has already squatted on my title. That's right, if you go to "Porncommander.com" you will find a load of crap that is basically an upsell to many other websites. Serves me right, I suppose.

That sucks. I am going to have to come up with another name.


Sorry to hear that IKnoPorn, but I would recommend that no one visit porncommander.com, since it will only open ip a few more windows as your trying to leave. Take it for me that it is a piece of s..t. How about Porncommodore. AS far as I know it doesn't not exist. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-28-08  09:56am - 5856 days #15
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Kind of ironic that pornographers shooting fisting would be punished by the long arm of the law!

But seriously, I wish law enforcement would be directed to spend its time and money on more serious problems.


I tend to agree with you that there are many more things that law enforcement could target, but pornography is by far one of the easiest. All you have to do is bring obscenity charges against a person or studio, and no matter the outcome you have won something. You've created a precedence, cost said person some serious amounts of money, and scared others into doing the same.

Case in point Max Hardcore. No matter what you think of his material or of him personally. He will spend the next few years in prison not for the contentpf his movies, but because of where the material was distributed.

John Stagliano his awaiting whether or not he will have to go to trial because one of his trailer and I believe 2 of the movies he is distributing were deemed obscene. None invlove water sports, scat or fisting. Now that's what I call the: LONG ARM OF THE LAW. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-28-08  09:43am - 5856 days #10
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I have notice a disturbing trend in the last few years involving spitting in a performers mouth or face. I don't know where it started or for what reason, but I can say that I find nothing sexually arousing about it. This reminds me of an interview a great actor(don't remember whom) gave where he said the hardest thing he ever had to do was get spit on. For me the first response after the inital shock would be to punch the person who did to me, so looking at one person receiving the spit and looking as though she enjoys it makes me uncomfortanle.

I'm more or less indiferent if the person spits on the pussy or anus. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-27-08  10:03am - 5857 days #6
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Let me be the first to say that I kind of enjoy a good fisting scene from time to time. I prefer a girl to girl fisting over solo stuff and can say that I don't enjoy a guy to girl. The importance in this fetish as in any other is that the receiver must enjoy it and that there be no sign of discomfort.

You can find fisting in many European movies, but you will have to do some serious research to find it in US porn. The fact of the matter is that fisting although not illegal is borderline like watersports and scatology. I hope everyone knows what waterports and scatology mean. Case in point: Obscenity charges were brought against Seymore Butts because in an European version of his movie Kylie Ireland and Brigitte Kerkove were anally fisting each other. I believe he was found not guilty, but he still had to pay money for lawyers and so forth. After that do you think anybody else would allow fisting in their movies? Most today get away by including the fisting scenes in easter eggs or in the extra sections.
There are a couple of exceptions, but I wonder if they won't feel the long arm of the law one day. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-26-08  09:32am - 5858 days #6
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Lets say that for argument sake, they do manage to put their plan to block access to the internet in action. How long do you think it will last? The backlash from such an action would be gigantic. The fact is that if you limit something or forbid it then human nature takes over and people want more of it.

The US prohibition may be the best example. None of us were alive back then, but I'm pretty sure that nobody had difficulty in getting a drink. The problem is that by preventing people from getting this legally you create an entire network of illegal means. In effect the Government was resposible for creating one of the biggest crime wave in US history. Until prohibition you had gangsters that mostly dealt with drugs, prostitution and gambling, but with prohibition you had them dealing with alcohol. That meant that your everyday guy was in fact giving money to organize crime.

The same thing could happen in Australia or any other country with a similar law. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-26-08  09:18am - 5858 days #46
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I didn't really want to start a new thread because I think the subject of precheck or cross sales as come up in a few threads already. If anyone is curious you can read the entire article here: http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=31990. Basically this means that any website that currently accepts Mastercard transactions, and has a precheck boxe on their join page may be fined if they do not remove those precheck boxes. Mastercard is tired of getting complaints from customer who join a website and then discover that they are members of other sites because they did not notice the precheck box. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-24-08  12:55pm - 5860 days #24
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


Indeed. Do keep in mind that we customers have the pleasure of always getting the last laugh in. So lets all try to get along. WittyGuy is very correct about being defensive. One must be careful when confronting a group of porn addicts whom have gotten to know and trust each other on a topic such as porn. That would be like arguing with Mike Tyson about how to properly bite someone's ear.




I believe you can have a meaningful converstion with Mike. You just have to limit the discussion to the proper way of preparing ears. I can guarantee that once you start you are likely to get an earfull from Mike. Sorry I couldn't help myself. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-23-08  07:33pm - 5860 days #22
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I wish you luck in your venture, but I must say that after reading your posts. You may be in for a tough road ahead. This is not just a porn forum, but one of possible future customers. If you have not done so yet, I would recommend you read other post. You will understand where Wittyguy is coming from about us being somewhat more informed then some other surfers. The fact that this isn't the first business you start could mean that you failed at the prior ones. Maybe because you didn't listen to good advice.

The cost of starting a website today is very expensive, and even with everything going great. You are not likely to make any money in the first year. You should consider yourself lucky to break even. Are you prepared for that?

The site you describe is just like 100's of others.
Go take a look at the reviewed photography sites at TBP to
give you an idea of your competition. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-22-08  07:01pm - 5861 days #35
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Although I could see where a black list or red flag might make it easier for newbies to avoid being taken in. Isn't that the main reason for the success of PU? I mean if you are interested in a site that is not yet reviewed by TBP or PU, then email TBP and see if they are scheduled to review it. If there are reviews of sites and you want more info then was available in the review then email the reviewer your question. In my experience if a site is good the review are good and if it'sad then so are the reviews. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-22-08  06:48pm - 5861 days #6
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Originally Posted by Star138:


we have enough for about 20 - 30 models to start with, each with 1 photo gallery. Assuming we have zero monthly customers, we could afford to add about 4 - 5 galleries a month. It's a teen/amateur site with mainly webcam-like content, high-res (digital camera) pics.

We (and when I say we, I mean me. One-man project here)thought about starting as low as $14.95 a month, and then use the cash-flow to add more content. Then gradually increase the price as the site gets more content/models/traffic.. etc..

Link exchanging will likely be a must. I'm considering affiliate/banner links (for solo girl sites) on the website.. and trying to keep it non-intrusive.

What do you guys think?


Here are a few questions that might help us to better advise you.

How many quality photos do you have in each model's sets?
Are we talking nude only?
What is the average age of the models?
Is your material 100% exclusive?
What kind of resolution for the photo sets?
Do you have any vids?
What kind of quality to the vids(if any)?

To be honest with you at 14.95$ you are not likely going to get too many takers with your actual content. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-21-08  07:22pm - 5862 days #24
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I've been reading everyone's choices and I've come to the conclusion that I've been watching porn for too long to be able to pick a select few. The fact of the matter is that I miss girls going as far back as the 70's and all the way to today. The only thing I might say is that I usually miss girls that left before they started to do serious hardcore material. Those I miss because you could see the potential and so little if anything exist of that potential. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-12-08  06:55pm - 5871 days #32
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I take my hat off to you sir. Those awards were just too good. You must have the patience of a God to be able to sift through all those prior post. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-07-08  05:55pm - 5876 days #6
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Originally Posted by sitsat:


I was just checking out a few websites from www.eurobabeindex.com to find some with my favourite models, and I came across this nice solo site:

www.analtoygirls.com

It's brand new and original, and had loads of trailers featuring some incredible European models doing their thing. I'm thinking "great" and I download about 20 trailers to see what the content's like. Then I started watching them...



Just a slight piece of information. I vist EBI almost
everyay, so I remember when they started talking about it. I think it was oven a year ago, and frankly I don't believe they have updated in months. Even without the idiot commentator, I'd still stay away for that reason.
An older site that stops updating may still be worth it, but a newbie isn't Long live the Brown Coats.

12-07-08  05:45pm - 5876 days #23
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


That is such an awesome movie, my favorite scene is when he smiles!


Most definitely the best scene in the movie.

I don't know if you ever saw Hollywood's idea of a good remake, but if you've never seen Jim Carreys "How the Grinch Stole Christamas" then let me offer you this gift...Don't. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-04-08  06:32pm - 5879 days #18
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I felt the need to alter mine after Seeing everybody elses holiday avatar. I'm not very original, but this is still the main charatcter from one of my favorite holiday movies Long live the Brown Coats.

12-01-08  06:44pm - 5882 days #4
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


The Wittyguy definition of "Gonzo" refers to:

1. The long beaked puppet from "The Muppet Show" (man, I miss that tv show);

According to the Urbandictionary's definition, the majority of porn appears to be Gonzo, which I think waters down the original definition of "Gonzo" (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gonzo) to the point of it being meaningless. Frankly, I'm not really into that type of thing as I do like a little appeitizer before the main course.


Poor Gonzo. He had that curved nose and now he's also associated with porn. Can't a muppet get a break.

You know the sad part is that gonzo porn has been watered down because most modern porn is gonzo. There are so few movies made today where there is a plot, actual acting, foreplay and good sex.

I used to enjoy the gonzo flicks of the early 90's because eventhough they had little in plot line they still had a story. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-29-08  04:35pm - 5884 days #10
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I easilly get 20 or more spam per day, but at least I will always know where to get cheap quality meds, incredible deals on websites that I've never heard of, and tons of women in my region who want to chat with me because I'm such a swell guy....NOT. It could be worse because I used to receive 40+ each day. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-28-08  07:33pm - 5885 days #27
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Also a few trsted users have helped me avoid spending my cash as well as find diamonds. thanks all that do .


This sums up my joy at having found TBP and then PU. Those rare gems, and the all too familiar turds. I don't know if my pocket book as come out on top, because I join as many sites now as I did in the past. At least now my satisfaction rating is greater than in the past. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-28-08  07:27pm - 5885 days #11
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:



An ironic point about Lucas: I had the delux video edition of the original trilogy, and in it there are some highlights of an interview with George, and he basically says "An effect is one thing, but the story is much more important, a special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing."

Another memorable quote: "Without Anthony Daniels C3P0 is just a hunk of plastic, by putting a real person into that outfit you get an entire dose of reality along with it".

I'm paraphrasing of course, but George really seems to have done an about-face on his roots.


Anyway, the fact that they have the technology is one thing, but as you stated it the story behind it is more important. As this type of "do it yourself" porn becomes more prevalent, I believe a critical component will be to let the user define the parameters for the story/fantasy: you can add as much (or as little) story as you might like.

That will really be something else, kind of like all of the Star Wars fan films on the internet these days, one could make their own "virtual porn movie" if you will with your own script etc.


Wow did I get off topic of the thread!


There is no such thing as off topic in the forum.

At least when Georges decides to go 180 degrees in the other direction. He goes all the way. He removed the story and added all CGI characters. I wonder how many of us would think Darth Vader is so amazing, if George had made him all CGI. Will any one of us remember General Griveous 10yrs from now??

I think that whomever comes up with a computer program that allows the user to select the action, the stars, the setting, the wardrobe, ect and then see it performed on screen, then that person will be rich beyond belief.

Don't we all see a movie and think of all the things we would have done different to make it better. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-27-08  06:52pm - 5886 days #8
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:



Drooler, I like your dose of reality.

I was originally planning 2 separate threads for this:

1) A "fantasy" 100 site: Wittyguy's is more of a 1000, not a 100, by comparison.

2) A "real" 100 site: Drooler's is close (except for that part about the second prostate gland ;-)

Seriously though, Wittyguy's "Personal Porn" will certainly come one day - I think we are heading toward a virtual reality world in terms of being able to create exactly any scenario you want and then observe it (and once we hit this technical milestone, the next will be interacting with it).

Look at what Lucas did with those (horrible) Star Wars movies - imagine that quality of engineering and CGI being put towards hot babes of your choice doing what you want, rather than flying Toydarians working in junk shops.

Something to think about while you're enjoying your turkey today!


+1 to Wittyguy and Drooler's perfect website/network.

There have been a few mentions in other forums of virtual worlds filled with perfect CGI characters that ressemble your favorite actress, model, singer or what not. I'm pretty sure that this is going to happen much sooner than we expect it. What I fear is that it will be exactly like George Lucas 3 Star Wars prequels. I enjoyed them, but that's only because they had jedis like we always imagined them. The storylines made no sense. They re-invented the entire Star Wars universe. Given a choice of having less than stellar effects like Star Wars, but an incredible story or having a crappy story but amazing effects, I will pick the prior any day. The morale of this is that even if the technology is here. The people that will apply it will do as good a job as Lucas did. All flash and no substance. This may be the phrase that best describes most of what passes for good porn today. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-27-08  06:30pm - 5886 days #8
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I don't think I'm being to naive in saying that I believe that for the most part we all give honest scores to our reviews. We may not agree on the actual number, but that is why it's very important to have a detailed review to justify that score. Of course if the score and the review
don't seem to make sense then I tend to assume that this particular reviewer as an ulterior motive. For me a 100% score is not possible, because I don't believe there is never a possibility of improving something. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-26-08  06:42pm - 5887 days #68
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:


A bit odd to reply to my own post, but I thought a clarification was needed: The sex was _between_ her periods, not during them!


I think that was a wise decision because I think you would have distracted the rest of the class with all the heavy
breathing and screaming...Ha..Ha..Ha. Sorry couldn't help myself.

I'm not too surprise about what you say the sex being pretty intense between you and your ex-girlfriend. There are quite a few current and past pornstars with a strict Religious background. I don't know if it's all that pent up sexual energy that makes them seek pornagraphy? Long live the Brown Coats.

11-25-08  07:01pm - 5888 days #8
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You would think that a multi-billion dollar company with probably the largest part of the PC market would be able to come up with an OS that is actually better than what came before it or it's nearest competitor. Vista is certainly not a good example. Any OS that requires the user to purchase a brand new computer simply to be able to use it is doomed to failure. I love my XP, and since my computer is about 4 yrs old then Vista is never going to be possible. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-25-08  06:53pm - 5888 days #63
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


Going back to the bad old days I am reminded of what Monahan was saying on another thread, about having to search out the occasional VERY expensive and illegal video from a porn shop. The first one I bought cost about &#65533;60 in 1979, I think. About 10 minutes of genuine action in it. But to be able to view it at home - WHOOPEE welcome to the new age.

Of course, those who were caught selling that sort of thing were going to be imprisoned for over 2 years. It seems incredible now, but in all honesty it seemed incredible then. Someone selling pictures or videos of two people having sex could end up in prison longer than burglars, rapists, or compulsive thugs.

One of the places that sold genuine porn was a shop run by Mary Millington. Most of you wont have heard of her, but she was probably the last of the great British sex symbols. She stood five foot nothing and if you passed her on the street you probably wouldn't have given her a second glance. But she was very photogenic. She only made about five hardcore short movies, all the rest was soft core. But she found Scotland Yard spending thousands of hours and a shitload of tax payers money in going after her.

One of the pictures she was going to be prosecuted for was, from what I can remember, a picture of a topless girl walking a dog. This was suggesting bestiality according to the Crown Prosecution Service so they went after her. she ended up taking her own life after becoming severely depressed over all the cases against her, and the constant raids and harassment.

She seemed genuinely interested in what she was fighting for. She could have behaved and still made money out of her body, but she believed in fighting for the freedom of her business. Very few remember her. It's a sad waste of a life, but it also illustrates how far we have come, and is also a reminder of the kind of forces and the mentality we are constantly fighting.

What really broke it all open wasn't the internet but satellite. The forces of law and order and righteousness could not stop the onslaught of "filth" being beamed in from foreign countries by those dastardly foreigners! There were a few prosecutions attempted but the flood gates were open.

I would not like to see those times again where the voice of the government - the media, told us how harmful all this filth was to our fortitude and morality. We could go back that way again if we are not careful. It's technology that opened it all up, but there is a constant fight by those who control us to use that technology against us. So it's a battle of good against evil as far as I am concerned. We try to use technology to make our lives more free, and open up free speech and debate. That very same technology is used by governments to try to control us and restrict our freedom.


What I find to be a narrow minded attitude on the part of the Government is the fact that they are targeting adult oriented material on the basis that it's an attack on morality and a danger to children. all the while there isn't a single day that I don't see an new Amy Winehouse photo of her getting home drunk, stoned, or what not.
Let me see who is a worse example for teens. A porn movie that is restricted to 18 yrs old or reading about a very popular young singer running to her death at full speed.

If the Government really wants to crack down on the bad influences for todays youth then why don't the4y arrest Amy, Pete, Kate and sentence them to prison. I would think that this would send a far better message to todays youth on acceptable social behavior. That won't happen because it's easier to go after porn because it is a taboo business.

Funny you mention the past because I remember while groing up watching Benny Hill and he always had semi nude girls in his sketches. I don't think I turned out a pervert becasue of it. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-23-08  09:49am - 5891 days #19
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Well, pat that Bunny Ranch does not look too comfortable - the "Daddy"- character resembles some mobster-type - would not go there ...but fun to browse through...


I can't speak from experience, but of what I've read about them. They do seem reputable. At the very least you would have a pornstar with a valid AIM test. The major downside is that since they are having sex with strangers, then the test is not relevant unless she just got her result and you are the first customer. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-22-08  07:46pm - 5891 days #16
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


A number of reasonably big name porn stars will do private shows, but if you want to be a part of that show, you'll need to get tested by an approved facility. I can't recall the name of the porn star testing agency, but they certify a set number of places, and usually the star will require papers certifying that you aren't carrying any disease from one of those certified testing places - even if you use a condom. After a few incidents, the industry has become quite careful considering the prevalence of condom-free porn. That said, it would certainly be much easier to use a normal escort service.

Still, the U.S. is prudish both socially and legally about prostitution. Socially, it is very rare to hear any American talking about using any form of prostitution - most people aren't even remotely comfortable with the idea, even when visiting countries where it is very legal. As for the legality issue, you can end up being labeled a Sexual Offender which may require you to notify your neighbors that you are a sexual offender whenever you move and have your address listed on public awareness sites. Personally, I think going for a toss in the hay with a working girl is very different from raping children, but the government doesn't always see it that way.


The agency's name is AIM: http://www.aim-med.org/. This is the one that all porn performers has to have a valid test from. The test is good for 30 days, but don't forget that I believe it takes 1-2 weeks to get the results, so don't make any plans before you have your test back.

The Bunny Ranch in Nevada as a fairly large stable of porn stars that are registered. www.bunnyranch.com. I can't speak for any site or agency that talks about allowing you to engage a ponstar for an escort, but be careful that you don't get the old bait and switch. You request a certain pornstar and instead someone else shows up. I've read that this is a fairly common.

My personal view is that I would rather not meet let alone have sex with any pornstar. They are a fantasy, and no matter how amazing they might be. They will not likely meet my expectation, and probably will disapoint. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-17-08  06:18pm - 5896 days #10
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I've never been a big fan of facials. I don't know if it's because, in some way, I find it degrading. It's kind of weird to say that when you realise that I have no issue with the girl getting gang banged. It may simply be that I prefer the old cum shot simply because it made sense in a normal sex scene since it was the culmination of that scene. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-15-08  07:57pm - 5898 days #36
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Originally Posted by messmer:


You and I, both! And I fervently hope you're right!


I'll second that wish, but I'm affraid we are going to be disapointed. If you look at the trend in the last few years, I'd say we are going in the opposite direction.
There are more and more amazing looking girls going under the knife for fake boob, new nose, and what not. The natural look is getting to be a rarity in the porn world.

The arrival of HD as also made many people nervous. Just look at photos of mainstream actresses when they aren't wearing any makeup. Not many would be voted sex symbols if we used those photos. Why would it be different for porn girls?

I like to see the flaws in my women. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-15-08  07:43pm - 5898 days #12
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Actually, all you need is a bank account with a debit card and those are easy enough to get for minors. You do need a parents consent to get a c-card but how much do parents really dive into their kids bills unless they're getting out of hand. I suppose the kids could also just lie about their age and financial status on credit card applications and get one that way too.

I think parents need to be involved in monitoring what their kids see to a point. However, I'm thinking the age verification system will probably come about at some point ... or maybe not ;)


If you give a minor a credit card and don't keep track of where they spend the money then I'm sorry to say but you are a bad parent. I've heard a few stories of parents getting cellphones bills in the thousands because their kids has been taking photos left and right and sending it to his friends. Minors don't have the experience of what can happen when you misuse a tool like a credit card or a cellphone, and afterall is said and done aren't considered responsible since they are minors.

One way to prevent a minor from accessing adult site would be to assign special digit cards to minors. This way if they try to get amemebership to an adult site then the transaction would be denied. Of course if they use mom or dad then that won't work, but I go back to parents and their responsabilities. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-14-08  07:46pm - 5899 days #10
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


True, it would be easiest to chase the ISP's but if you go after one you'll be going after them all (either class action or the big players will jump in, voluntarily or otherwise) and everyone will spend big coin. With the Dem's in charge and the economy tanking here the "culture war" issues like porn will be sitting on the back burner for years to come.

One issue where the government could certainly clamp down (and they may already be starting this in parts of Europe) would be to require age verification through a 3rd party website provider. Let's face it, how many teens have debit card or credit cards today. So long as you got the magic 16 digits you're in porn world. A state prosecution for sex with a minor recently got dismissed because the underage girl appeared on one of those adult dating sites and represented she was 20 to the guy and his defense was that he relied on the site and her for age verification. This is one area where the government could legitimately start requiring more regulation.

How such a system would work exactly I don't know but you can bet it wouldn't take long for someone or some government agency to start subpoenaing records from the age verification site.


I believe that any attempt by the Government to control the content available through different ISP is doomed to failure. It doesn't mean that some insane crusader wouldn't try to do it.

I agree with you that most Governments are going to have far more important thing to worry about in the next few years than porn in general.

I'm not sure how we could prevent minors from accessing adult websites if their parents don't do anything about it.

I don't know but can a minor have a credit card without a parent signing the contract? If no, then as a parent you should monitor what your underage children use it for.

I'm all for society finding solutions to problems, but how can we find a solution to stupid parents. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-12-08  05:48pm - 5901 days #7
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I'm with Toadsith and badandy in that I prefer having a limit put on the amount of connections I can have opened rather then the amount I'm allowed to download in a fixed period. I appreciate a site that has no limitation, but like most good things in life, they aren't free. If a site chooses to have limitations, but in return offer a superior product at a lower cost because of server savings then why complain? Long live the Brown Coats.

11-07-08  06:21pm - 5906 days #2
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Originally Posted by clyde:


I like a number of titles on both Anabolic and JM but their sites have very low quality files. Does anyone know of a DVD site that carries these two studios?


I'm not sure what you mean by DVD site. If you mean one that is similar to Videobox, then I'm unaware of one. If you mean streaming then Hot Movies and AEBN have a large
quantity of both studios library. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-07-08  06:17pm - 5906 days #8
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I think going after the ISP's would be difficult. Let's face it, the big ISP's and the search engines (which rely a lot on ISP's as a gateway) are well organized in Congress and have deep pockets for litigation. I note that the new German law does not hold ISP's liable for "young looking" content as I'm sure their lobbyists nipped any idea of that in bud.

Under US law, the ISP's have a certain amount of immunity although it is certainly not well defined. For example, some community host sites have been sued and the courts have not held them liable for defamatory content on their sites because they are basically acting as a distributor of information and not actually publishing the information. The ISP's could make the same argument in regards to porn sites; they are just maintaining the road while it is up to you to drive to your destination.

When you think about it, if ISP's were liable for content then the government could already be going after them if you could find al-queda sites (promotion of terrorism), child porn, and for people who send threatening emails to the President. Clearly there is already some "natural" idea building that ISP's can't be held liable for everything, just like a newspaper that quotes someone who makes libelous statements isn't automatically liable for publishing those statements.

The law is definitely vague and porn is/will be in the foreground of the fight over how much regulation can be imposed on the net.


I agree that going after ISP is likely doomed to failure for all the reasons you've mentioned, but then again would anyone of us have said that Max Hardcore would be going to jail, That John Stagliano/Evil Angel would be charged with distributing obscenity, that a major network would be fined 50,000$ for brodcasting Janet Jacksons breast on TV?

Don't forget that Governments don't have to be right. All they need is a person with the desire and enough backing to do it. The prosecutor doesn't care if his/her crusade will cost tax payers millions of dollars because they aren't flipping the bill. It's people like you and me that pay for them. The same can't be said of the person or corporation being charged.

At the moment US laws aren't targeting ISP's but that's today. What will happen tomorrow is not yet decided. All I'm saying is that it's easier to stop porn by controlling access to it then going after porn sites. There are so many porn sites today that I'm sure they can't be easily counted, and new ones are popping up each day. How many ISP are there in America at the moment? I'm sure it's not a thousand. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-06-08  07:36pm - 5907 days #5
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Actually, I would say that there are probably more extreme porn sites than ever thanks to the internet. Watersports, caning and fisting can still be seen galore if your tastes run that way (just look at the TBP listings and you'll find a lot). I think the Euro's still hold sway with the bizarre content but there is a lot of nonmainstream stuff still being produced here. Compared with where Europe is heading, the US is probably still more free overall; the government just can't shut down your site or have some bureaucrat censure you. Only the courts can shut you down here so I think we get more press when cases get prosecuted over other nations where censureship can be more covert.

The mainstream stuff is somewhat bland but I think that goes with the market; American's overall prefer bland or generic porn I guess. Give the masses what they want.


I agree that for now the internet is still a wild frontier with little if any laws. My fear is that the Government is not going to attack the websites, but the ISP's. In fact that is pretty much what happened to Max Hardcore. He wasn't charged with the content of his movies per say, but the fact that it was sold across State Lines. The same could be done to ISP's. All the Government has to do is bring accusation against the ISP's that they allowed access to certain kinds of material deemed unaceptable to
the comunity. The beauty is that even if the charges are false, and that given enough time and lots of money the charges will be dropped. The owner would probably bankrupt himself defending his business, and in so doing have to stop offering internet service. AS well that would put pressure on other ISP to stop offering certain sites in fear that the same thing happens to them. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-06-08  07:20pm - 5907 days #21
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Originally Posted by Denner:


First I like the "hit and run" thing mentioned by Toadsith. The reason is obvious: Join a site, pay and rip what they got - and then cancel. Is that not the meaning of it all - EXCEPT for some very fine sites, maybe.
I started this thing - together with Pink Panther, by all means - and and still think it's importend from the users point of view. It's NOT a matter of: "Ask not what your website can do for you, but what you can do for your website"
We're paying costumers!
BTW: Got this reply from the webmaster at 21Sextury where he - damon21 - states that all will get access to 30+ sites with one subscription - well, that was certainly NOT the case when I first joined this socalled deal - ok, I do not remember the exact amount, but it was more likely 20 or less and NOT a matter of choise - I could not even choose the next site after the two or more months "Loyalty".



Interesting what damon21 wrote because I joined Lez Cuties in October and I got access to 30 sites with that one membership. I didn't get to choose any of them, so I can't say if they are always the same or if they are randomly generated. I joined Porn Pass for All earlier this year and it was the same thing. The only thing I'm willing to give 21Sextury is that once you are a member then you know exactly which site will become available and how long you will have to remain to get them.

I'm going to join DP Fanatics very soon so I'll be able to tell you which site come with that membership. Long live the Brown Coats.

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The great thing with the Germans or a similar law is that it is so ambiguous that any crusading prosecutor who wants to make a name for himself can bring charges against any producer, director, distributor or studio. If we take the Germans law literarily then any porn movie with a performer
that looks less than 30 could be charged, because there are a couple of 20yrs old that could pass teenagers.

It is quite frightening the kinds of law being passed these days. Whenever a law is unclear then it opens the door to abuse. The US as the Miller Test, Britain has the no violent porn, and Germany has no youthful looking performers. Gee those laws are as clear as can be. There is no way for the Government to go after anyone but true perverts....NOT.
Gee those lwas are as cleart as a mu Long live the Brown Coats.

11-05-08  08:10pm - 5908 days #14
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I will grant you it is quite uncommon, but I've run across it a few times over the years now. Most recently with a site I'm a current member of and really ought to do a review of one of these days: Slipshine

As for the debate of staying vs. bi-annual hit-and-runs? On sites that consistently add content I like I find I enjoy perusing them on a regular basis, just like when the latest edition of a favorite magazine arrives. You know approximately what will be between the covers, but you are just as eager every month.


I wish sometime that I'd stick around for longer than one month, but rarely have I found a site that updated often enough to justify sticking with it beyond the first month. There are a couple of sites that are just too good to wait six months, so those I will normally join every 3 months.
I should do the math on whether staying a member long term is more economical than hit and runs every 3 months. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-04-08  06:55pm - 5909 days #12
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Much as already been cover, so I'll simply say that I personally love the $35 first month - $8 all months after system - they get their money from the "hit-and-run" crowd and those of us in it for the long haul don't have to ruin our wallets.

I suppose the $100 upfront systems work this way in a more commitment heavy style. Most of the other loyalty systems end up being a nuisance, in my opinion.


I've never seen a website or network that had an offer similar to the one you refer to. Although the 8$ for the subsequent month is amazing. You still wind up paying a total of 123$ for year membership. I've never seen a website that updated often enough to justify sticking with it long term. I think it's cheaper to join twice a year and download eveything that has been added since the last time. Long live the Brown Coats.

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