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02-13-09  10:19am - 5792 days #2
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I do keep reminding my partner that she is very lucky - which is very irritating. I admit I am irritating and annoying. On the plus side I am a wonderful cook (and do the washing up), never forget birthdays or Valentine's, so she isn't going to leave me because she loves my cooking. I'm treating her to 3 days of meals and treats, while she watches the soap operas. Oh god what a relationship!

02-13-09  05:02am - 5792 days #5
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I agree. I'm just not interested in something that small (now where have I heard that before?) The same goes for chat lines - I have just never seen the point. Just talking about it with someone who doesn't give a shit and is 60 years old isn't the slightest bit stimulating. That's what wives are for isn't it?

The strange thing is these things seem to be big business. Guess that's why I'm not a big ideas sort of guy. If someone had even suggested to me, the possibility of investing in an adult chat line or porn on a cell phone, I'd have told them go ahead and lose all their money on a really stupid idea.

02-12-09  06:27pm - 5792 days #4
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My favourites were 2, 6, 10, and 12. I love the original Hitchhiker's series, and also Mystery Science Theatre 3000. A piece of trivia - the film used in Mystery Science Theatre The Movie is "This Island Earth," at the time and for several years after, considered a very fine piece of 50's sci fi. I loved it when I first saw it, but I also loved the send up.

02-12-09  06:18pm - 5792 days #2
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Reading some of the comments on PU in the last few weeks, it looks as though this is symptomatic of the current financial situatuion. A number of sites now look as though they are not updating as regularly as they used to, and quite a few seem to be now using old stuff and calling it new updates. This isn't surprising.

I said at the end of last year, I was expecting sites to join forces and combine their material, and also for some sites to just use old material and go the cut price subscription route.

02-06-09  05:52am - 5799 days #59
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Try Pirate Bay. I hear they have a lot of stuff. Edited on Feb 06, 2009, 05:55am

02-03-09  05:22pm - 5801 days #6
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I watch 95% of videos with my sound turned off. I start it with the sound turned on, but then can't stand any more. I think the idiots are divided into two categories. The first sort are the ones who are just the out and out plonkers who love to hear the sound of their own voice. The second sort are the ones who really think that all the boorish "man" talk, and insulting the models is sexy. Not only do you get the dickhead talking at the beginning, it then goes into badly dubbed grunts and groans or just fake over the top grunts and groans and "I like your dick in my pussy" sort of crap, that is so fake and such a turn off, I just turn the sound off completely.

02-01-09  05:06pm - 5803 days #46
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Thanks for all the information and help guys. The more I look into it the more I know I have to get an external drive. I didn't realise how susceptible those hard drives were to breaking down or going wrong. There is no perfect solution I guess. Maybe get two external drives and also some dvd's for backing up the really valuable files as Andy suggested. I have to continue to drag myself into the 21st century. The technology is out there. Better get used to using some of it.

01-31-09  03:25pm - 5804 days #38
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Thanks for the suggestion Khan. I think that I will go with the external drive as this may be even better than the dvd cutting idea. Should have got it set up before I got wiped out recently, by the worm that is supposed to have wiped out 9 million computers. It's frightening to even visit some sites now.

01-31-09  10:26am - 5804 days #36
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Wow - thanks for the quick reply. The external drive was something I was considering - but presumably I would have to keep it disconnected from the computer most of the time, because I was thinking if the computer gets the virus it would spread to the external drive. I am not too tech minded, a real beginner with this sort of thing.

01-31-09  09:59am - 5805 days #2
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Yeah I agree with you, and from what we have been seeing on these threads in the last few months, a hell of a lot of people agree with you. I wish the things you have mentioned would be just a novelty or a niche, instead of the norm. It's just becoming nastier and nastier, as though they feel they have to get tougher and tougher, in order to compete with others to bring in the punters. But on PU we have a big collection of porn lovers, and yet not that many of them really want to see the things you have been describing.

I do find most of the things you have describd as ugly and in all honesty, I find it a total turn off. I am speaking as someone who loves deviation too, but even I find a lot of those things distasteful. I don't want to see this as the norm. It is not totally an American thing, but I do think you see it less in European porn than American. This sort of thing has been brought up in other threads on here, and I think it's good that people voice their opinion, because, hopefully some of those producers will read these threads and maybe have second thoughts on what they are doing.

01-31-09  09:48am - 5805 days #34
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I don't want to start a new thread for something as inconsequential as this so I thought I'd ask here. In the past I have not stored anything and have just kept porn or music files on my computer. Then I get wiped out with a virus and lose everything and have to start over again. Usually I cut music cd's but do not save porn this way.

What I would like to do is download data to dvd or cut dvd's as backup discs. I have not done this before. Can anyone tell me what the best software is (that is hopefully simple) that will allow me to cut data to dvd? My computer is an 18 months old Dell with XP. I have been looking at AOA DVD Ripper, Easy DVD Ripper and Converter, and Cucusoft Videos to DVD Converter.

I am really new to doing this sort of thing as I have just cut cd's before, but all the files I don't backup get wiped out when I get a virus. Hope someone can help.

01-29-09  06:51am - 5807 days #3
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I'm sure you can name the sites. This is just the sort of dodgy behaviour we need to be informed about. I think eventually this sort of thing will be made illegal, but credit card companies may put a stop to it anyway. They will have to spend so much time dealing with customers complaints, that it will cost them too much money to allow it to continue. It was posted on this forum that one credit card company has already banned pre checked cross selling already.

Years ago companies tried a similar sort of scam in this country. They would send unrequested items "on approval" like a set of encyclopaedias, which would become yours after a week if you did not send them back, and you would have to pay for them. This meant you had to take the time and trouble to return them and pay the postage - but not if you knew your rights. The law already had this covered.
Little old ladies were conned like this and it featured in newspapers and on tv. If people send you unrequested items, you have to keep them for a specified time. If you do not want them, the company has to collect them at their expense and in their time, otherwise they become yours. Soon nearly everyone got to know this law, and now hardly any dodgy companies try this scam. I remember one company trying the encyclopaedias thing with my parents. My parents repeated the law to them, and they came to collect them. Edited on Jan 29, 2009, 07:54am

01-22-09  07:12pm - 5813 days #32
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Heh heh - good point. All the government, police, corporations and pretty much everyone that controls us, as well as own family and role models, are seen by children to be lying, and then trying to justify it. Then they tell children not to lie. Similar to what I said about UK and America. The nations were built on invading other countries, killing the natives, and exploiting the resources. Then they told their children not to kill or steal. Of course it was the porn movies, tv, and cartoons that made them do it.

01-22-09  03:55pm - 5813 days #30
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No I refuse to believe it. This is awful. This means an almost sane and sensible decision by government. I am now totally disillusioned.

The implications are just awful. Surely Mr. and Mrs. Coke-Crazed-Crackhouse-Whore-Alcoholic-Chain-Smoker couldn't possibly be responsible for little Bobby's bad habits, or the fact he didn't make it on to the board at HSBC. That and the fact he's an incompetent bumbling oaf with the IQ of a lemming and the charm of a piranha with tooth ache. Surely society is to blame, and the movies, and the comics. I thought it was Tom and Jerry's fault little Johnny raped and killed those 25 women just before tea time. That, or the Earl Grey was cold. Edited on Jan 22, 2009, 04:04pm

01-21-09  09:57am - 5815 days #32
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Originally Posted by bengun:



yes. I agree!
But how to find the "good guys"



Simple, keep looking around here. Read the reviews and the posts. Who the good guys are becomes apparent quite quickly. Take a look at some of the threads about rogue sites and wanting to make a list about them. Look at the posts and reviews where all those things I mentioned - cross checking, bad customer service, inability to access sites, DRM, and download limits, are brought up. Look up any site you are thinking of joining, then look it up under the TBP A-Z then at the bottom of the page see what PU members think. I will not join a site nowadays that has a poor rating from PU.

I really wanted to have a list of the worst sites, but the people who run PU will not allow it because it is bad business, and could involve lawsuits. But you can still check out all the posts and reviews of each site you are thinking of joining.

01-21-09  06:30am - 5815 days #30
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I believe the best way to deal with this regional discrimination is the same as dealing with DRM or limited downloads. If the site operates this policy then DON'T subscribe. Vote with your wallet. It's one of the reasons I subscribe to American Vice and not Video Box, although I prefer American Vice anyway, as they do actually have a customer service that answers customers' questions. Karup's I have noticed don't do regional discrimination or all the other bad things either. Is this a coincidence, or is it maybe that those sites that have the really bad things that we hate, like DRM, download limits, cross checking, and regional discrimination, also have really bad customer service? Whereas the sites which have great customer service don't have those bad things. The answer is to keep checking in here and subscribing to those sites which have great customer service and treat their customers well.

Don't just look at the pretty pictures and be tempted. That company could be run by crooks and scumbags who once they have your money don't care, because you're not getting what you think you're getting anyway. The pictures on the home page may be great, but the site doesn't always live up to expectation. The people who run these things may be just there to rip you off in any way they can. So support the good guys is what I'm saying. Keep the good guys in business, by diverting your money away from the bad guys. This helps everyone.

01-19-09  04:47pm - 5816 days #19
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Any more of that and the cat gets it.

01-19-09  03:51pm - 5816 days #25
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Originally Posted by TalonIcefire:


I&#65533;m a newcomer to PU and porn review in general. A few weeks ago, the thought of reading reviews popped into my mind leading me to initiate a Google query. TBP and PU weren&#65533;t the first sites I looked at. However, when I did stumble upon PU, I was entranced. Now here&#65533;s a concept I can agree with &#65533; real people reviewing sites that either I was planning on joining or showcasing new sites I&#65533;ve never even heard of. What&#65533;s not to like? I rely more on PU reviews than TBP. I won&#65533;t say my reviews are the best, however they are getting better. What I like to read and try to write are unemotional, light humored, professional and factual details about the sites. Within the forum I came across a writing guide someone posted. I use it now as my guideline while writing my reviews. Additional thought: screening your text through a spell checker does help.
I think the quality of the reviews will bring more folks into our realm. I personally don&#65533;t care all that much about the raffle. I honestly do not see me being in contention for it. I read the threads weekly and respond accordingly as well as participate in the polls.
Quality penmanship is what brought me here. The continued user participation will keep me here.


I agree, with all that - it's similar to the reason I eventually joined. At the beginning I don't think they had a forum, just reviews. The first one I took notice of was Denner. Here was a guy who spoke for us, because he was one of us. Then I saw some of the other reviews, then I noticed they announced a forum was starting up. There I noticed the intelligent contributions, especially one involving Toadsith, and soon I was taking more notice of PU than I was of TBP.

01-19-09  03:42pm - 5816 days #17
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How about Tony Blair?

01-16-09  11:05am - 5819 days #21
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Yeah that's just what I was thinking - it is a great example of how an online forum should be.

01-16-09  09:27am - 5820 days #4
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I may be on my own here - but give me a perfumed, freshly scrubbed and showered girl any day.

01-16-09  09:25am - 5820 days #19
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To me it looks as though the site is really healthy. You appear to be getting new members all the time, and quite a few of them post on the forum. I'm a newbie myself. I just barged in and started posting. Most forums have a relatively low ratio between members and regular posters. I was looking in here for quite a long time before I started posting. What attracted me was the intelligence of the membership. I think that jumps out. But sometimes you can get people who are really rude or unpleasant in some way. I would not like to see that happen here.

01-15-09  06:41pm - 5820 days #51
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That Cabo organisation looks decidedly dodgy. Thanks for the warning. Yeah, all those things mentioned should be a red flag.

One thing I have done in the past (as a sort of wind up) is when a company starts talking about free trials, I email them to say - "hey you don't need my credit card details if it's a free offer, do you?" I then continue "of course if you're a total bunch of rip off crooks then you'll want my credit card details, but there's no way I'm trusting any company that says it's a free trial and then at the same time wants my credit card." Even if they get back to me with some lame email I feel good, because time is money, and I have cost them some time and money, instead of the other way round.

Doing the above is a way to end up with more spam, but I get so much now anyway it really doesn't make much difference. With the number of viagra and ciallis emails I get I think someone is trying to tell me something.

01-15-09  12:25pm - 5820 days #8
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That's really stupid. You know Mickey Mouse can't serve another term as president because he's already served two.

01-15-09  12:18pm - 5820 days #115
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Looks like you've put on some weight and let yourself go a bit, Wittyguy. Marvin was my favourite character in the tv series, probably because he's the character most like me. Stepthen Moore was wonderful, but he had great lines to work with. It's the old thing about lightning not striking twice. There's a mysterious sort of magic that can only be captured once.

01-15-09  12:09pm - 5820 days #6
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Originally Posted by Khan:



BTW, I do so love it when user try to speak for me ... not. ;)


Now you're just being akward. Come on admit it, I got it right. I knew exactly what you were going to say. Now you're refusing to say it just cos I got it right!

In a way I was mixing up raffle tickets with points. What I really meant was that I wanted to separate the excellent and good reviews from the rest. As you say, excellent gets 3 points (sorry, tickets), and good gets 2. I would like to see these better reviews separate, but once again I know it aint gonna happen.

Messmer pointed out a good example and also makes a good additional point. I know you don't want to discriminate, but just as a trust "no" nowadays has to at least carry some reasoning behind it, I would like to see exceptionally low or high points only being accepted if the review is considered "good." In fact, maybe this should apply before any marks are considered for a site's average. This is for the reason stated by Messmer. If someone makes a quick and hurried review, chances are he hasn't even checked out the site properly. This can unfairly weight for or against the reviewed site.

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Here's one very few are going to agree with. I shall take Khan's reply as already given. I thought it would be a great idea to have 2 and 3 point reviews as separate from the rest.

The reason for this is, I like to see the better reviews rather than the poor ones when selecting which site to join. Yes I can, and do, sift through them, but there are so many, to my mind, poor reviews that are virtually worthless, they get in the way of the worthwhile ones. I'm a relative newbie myself and don't want to discourage people. I would just like to see a place where you can see the better reviews all together. Sometimes you get a newbie doing about 10 reviews that all look the same, with little worthwhile information, and then the other reviews are buried underneath.

I hope no one has brought this point up before. I have looked through the posts and haven't seen anyone suggest this. If I took some time I could probably type Khan's reply for him - hmm let's see - we don't wish to discourage any reviews, the difference between one and two point reviews is very narrow, most members want to look at all the reviews so having this policy would be pointless, logistically it would be very time consuming and difficult to do, we don't wish to distinguish between reviews, members wouldn't want us to distinguish between reviews and are capable of sorting through them, they want to look at all the reviews in the same place and to separate them would make the site even more complicated and difficult to access...Howzat? Edited on Jan 15, 2009, 09:16am

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There's no way I'm even looking at The Prisoner movie, in the same way there's no way I wanted to see "The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy" movie. Just another soulless way to make money. I don't mind movies making money, but for me, those sort of ideas (if you can call them that) suck. They'll be wheeling everyone out for interviews telling us all how it remains faithful to the original spirit, but with a modern slant and some surprises, that is more suitable for the 21st century.

I strongly suspect McGoohan only died so he could legitimately turn in his grave at the thought. Edited on Jan 15, 2009, 06:32am

01-14-09  06:59pm - 5821 days #109
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That's the trouble with being as old as I am. Eventually all your childhood heroes and friends die. And on that cheery note.....

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Hopefully it wont be Patrick Macnee who has always been one of my favourites. Robert Wagner was married to Natalie Wood, who for me was one of the most attractive women of all time.

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RIP Patrick McGoohan. It's rather strange that his two Emmy Awards came from Columbo rather than The Prisoner or Danger Man. But he was one of my favourite actors, totally underrated and underused, although a lot of that was due to his own, very selective way he chose roles (I thought he was great in Ice Station Zebra). If we don't ever see another post from Toadsith, we will at least all know the truth.

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Brilliant post Wittyguy. You sum everything up perfectly. Clyde brings up a great point that others have touched on. That is, if you have trial offer why not just put a limit on the downloads. Give people the ability to download a handful of material. Tell them they can download whatever they wish under a certain limit, just so they can see how it works and what the material is like. If I ran a great site I wouldn't want people downloading everything for a dollar, but I would want them to sample how great the site is. To me, this makes sense.

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There is a difference between killing and copying a movie or removing DRM.


I think you may have missed my point here. I was merely touching on the hypocrisy that you sometimes hear, when people become too self righteous about not stealing or doing other things that are considered bad. All of our history, and where we are now, is based on theft and murder. That doesn't mean I think theft or murder is right. I merely try to think about everything on a level and realistic basis given our history and human behaviour. As a matter of fact, as I touched on before, I don't actually believe in right or wrong. I consider them abstract ideas. I don't believe in any god, therefore I don't consider right or wrong actually exist. It's just what the current concensus of opinion is. That's why I just have my own moral code and leave that to guide me.

I believe theft and piracy can be beneficial things. You touched on the reasons yourself. I don't like it when I see corporations becoming so powerful they have a malevolent influence on people. Piracy helps to undermine this. There are lots of other reasons along these lines surrounding prices being too high, because of corporations almost illegally acting like cartels. Once again piracy helps to curb this. Piracy also helps you feel good in ripping people off that you consider ripped you off.(Or alternatively kicking down their door, and smashing the place up, or whatever - okay it would really be naughty of me to suggest that! Maybe piracy is better)

Piracy can help to curb monopolies, cartels, and actions detrimental to the majority. Since I believe laws are there to protect the minority rather than the majority, I don't think it is any coincidence that big companies and the very rich who act in a monopolistic way, tend to own the media and therefore put governments in power. Those governments will naturally be acting in the interests of those who put them in power, and allowing them to act in the way that made them rich in the first place. It's just a different way of looking at things. It is no more right or wrong than yours. Both our attitudes and beliefs carry a certain amount of truth. I just like to put forward an alternative opinion.

But for what it's worth I do consider myself an honest person. I hate lies and I hate theft despite what I have said. But that is concerning decent and honest people. I have no problems lying to, or cheating dishonest people. Who gets to decide who those people are? Me of course. As I said, I live my life by my law, not other people's. If I break the law I may get caught. That stops me from doing things I may otherwise do, unless there is a good way of not getting caught. But it's the fear of being caught that stops me doing some things, not other people's morality. I have my own morality and live my life by that. I really think that's what most people do anyway. They just try to justify it when they do something that is considered bad. My justification is that I just wanted to do it.

I like Monahan's reaction to the site that ripped him off. Bugger what the law says. If someone pisses you off or tries to do you harm, my reaction is, do harm to them.

I really don't think that corporations or the very rich, who are acting in their own interests, are doing any wrong either, as I don't believe in that concept. They are just doing what they do to make money. As I said, it's dog eat dog. Just realise who are your friends and who are your enemies. If someone hurts you, hurt them. That's just my way of looking at it.

Don't for one moment think that what you have said along the lines of piracy undermining quality of product and decent companies has gone unnoticed. That's why I have said and will say once again that mostly I agree with you. Edited on Jan 12, 2009, 08:39pm

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Keep up the good work Denner. This is like dealing with a DRM situation in my opinion. A number of members here say the best way to get rid of DRM is not to subscribe to sites that have it. I agree. I think the best way to get rid of regional discrmination is not to join sites that have it. If they have it and you want to join, then email them and request the correct price. If they don't give it, don't join.

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I can not say that I agree with TheSquirrel. He sounds like he is very bitter about something. Laws are there for a reason. Now admittedly some do not protect the interests of the consumers, but overall most laws have good reason. Squirrel, I believe the reason you "love piracy" is because you have always been on the pirate end of the stick.


HEH HEH, bad old Squirrel, bitter old Squirrel!

You may be surprised that I agree with a lot of what you say. One of the things I agree with is the way to deal with DRM. If you want to get rid of it, don't subscribe to sites that have it.

Since I have certain social anarchist beliefs I wont go into those too much. They are mostly for a different sort of forum, but admittedly I have gone into them here occasionally, as I consider they do have relevance on occasions. But there is one thing I will add, and it's one thing I brought up on the realspankings forum. When people start to talk about stealing and righteousness I do look at things in a slightly different way. It's not that I condone or condemn things too much, in the same way you don't. But what I would say is that we both come from countries which our ancestors invaded, killed most of the natives, exploited all the resources, and enslaved who was left. Then continued to do it to other countries. Then we told our children that killing and stealing are wrong. Edited on Jan 12, 2009, 07:36pm

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How many of those sites using DRM have customers who know the implications and how far do they go in making sure the customers know the facts? How far do they go in making sure they don't? In effect, some of these sites are stealing from their customers, so customers shouldn't worry too much about stealing from them. That's once again, just IMO. There are also other methods sites use to obtain money dishonestly or shadily, just like any corporation. It's dog eat dog out there. Very possibly I am one mad dog.

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I have no problems at all with breaking the law as it is there for the benefit of the minority, and is used against us, the majority, for the benefit of the minority. That's IMO of course. I am just explaining how I feel about the law, so anyone will understand that I would have no problems at all with any programmes for removing DRM. I prefer to visit places where you can download for free. I have always loved piracy and supported piracy.

Years ago when there was a lot of video piracy starting up, the big companies always used to tell us, oh we don't like piracy because it hurts the small guys. Ha ha ha, they were SO worried about the small guys, right?

I have no moral worries about downloading stuff for free, or breaking the law in any way. Before anyone gets too righteous, let me add that a lot of the sites we see linked to from TBP could well be outside the law as defined by your American laws. Same goes for British. If they aren't illegal now, they could well be in a few months or years time. I have never respected any law that does not represent me. So I have no moral worries at all about breaking it.

Naturally like others here I would not discuss any programmes that would break the terms of being here on PU. The reason for this is, apart from my quite liking the place, being here is my own decision. It is not forced on me by some government that cannot justify its own existence, it is MY decision to be here. If I don't like what these people who own the site represent, then I leave. But if I wish to be here I must respect their policies as it is their place not mine.

I trust this post does not break the rules. Let's just say I understand the place is a business and has to make a profit. Therefore the opinions and attitudes represented by the people who own and run the site, may sometimes not be supported, or even in the interests, of the customers here. But personally I think, at the moment, the pros of this site outweigh the cons. Given the way things are going, this site could be illegal in most countries in a couple of years time. Think about that, before anyone gets too smug about not breaking the law.

By the way - this is not an attack on anyone. I know the reasoning behind opinions expressed by Cybertoad, badandy, and Khan. These need to be expressed too, and I agree with a lot of the things they say. I don't mean to be at loggerheads, it's just I always like to express an alternative view, even though I find myself agreeing with what they say as well. Edited on Jan 11, 2009, 06:29am

01-09-09  06:58pm - 5826 days #19
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Hey anyone notice Cybertoad had disabled his account? If you're out there Toad, just cos you're not subscribing to tons of sites doesn't mean you can't have fun on the forum. You'll be a great loss. Stick around and make some posts or quick comments. I thought you said you were gonna stick around.

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I wonder how long those really big collections work out at given the length of a gb. It depends on the quality of the clip but just one gb can be 2 or 3 hours. High def it's a lot shorter, so that does make a difference. I think if you work out all the time it would take to view your collections, it could run into literally years. Of course this depends on whether you do time consuming things like eating, or sleeping.

I have been brutal in deleting material in recent years. Thing is, once you have watched it, I think the natural thing is to keep looking for other new stuff to view. I am not sure how much repeat stuff I have seen. Not a lot, no matter how good it is. I still have that collector's mentality where I just hate to get rid of things, but more often than not a virus decides things for me, when it comes along and wipes everything out anyway. Very rarely do I re subscribe to download material I have already seen. I just keep the porn on computer only, so once it's gone, generally, it's gone.

01-08-09  12:42pm - 5827 days #9
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That's EXACTLY what I did when I first joined, but I realised what I had done and corrected it.

01-07-09  03:34pm - 5828 days #11
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Originally Posted by messmer:


A very perceptive post, squirrel! I shall go to my "treasure" (at least 600 Gigs of porn) and will start looking at what I have, starting with the oldest and working my way up to the present.



Well, I'll see you in about...err...30 years then.

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I'm with you guys. I had one sunbcription now I have none. I may subscribe to one site in the next week or so, but I don't want to encourage any site that has regional discrimination, or has substantially increasd its prices.

As I suspected, quite a few of you have a lot of material you haven't even looked at. I know that in the past, I sometimes downloaded some good stuff, then looked elsewhere once it was downloaded, to see if there was anything else of interest, without even viewing some of the material I had downloaded. Typical male sort of thing. Once you have it, you lose interest. So I am really tough with myself nowadays and make myself view what I have and then delete most of it before subscribing to another site. I agree what you are saying about overkill and over exposure too. I find a break does refresh the appetite.

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One for four - and don't I f***ing know it! I'm almost up to the quality of The Lions - who are playing more like The Detroit Spinners. If The Eagles had been playing at home they'd have still been booed off the field. That's about the only sure thing in the NFL.

How could the Vikings blow another one? - I honestly don't know. The Chargers finally play up to expectation. How the Cardinals won, I have no idea - about as likely as The Giants winning the Superbowl last year.

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The Cards won! I don't believe it. Brilliant. I just hope I'm wrong about the Dolphins and Chargers matches too.

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To me it is just silly. A bit like paying the price of a 4 month round the world cruise and getting a weekend in Frinton-On-Sea.

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I agree with what you are saying here, and it's something I have thought about since I joined the site. It's the reason I didn't do a ton of reviews of every site in the Pink Visual Network, just to get points. The reviews would contain about 80 per cent duplicate material. The only thing different would be the niche aspects. I really couldn't be arsed to do the same reviews just for points anyway. I do agree with the points you make. Most of the sites in a network have very much the same look and technical aspects. Maybe the reviews in these instances should be cut and pasted along with the individual aspects of the niches, which could be talked about as an addition.

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It seems sport is the one thing that can divert the male mind from naked women. One of those research team type surveys turned up that sport actually takes first place over porn when channel surfing.

Just to barge in where no one wants me, since this thread exists, how come no NFL predictions? I have always found college a bit of a snooze simply because most of the people you are watching cannot convert to the big time NFL game, because it is so different.

Just to barge in further, for the first time in years I can see the wild card mostly favouring the visiting teams. Falcons to beat Cardinals (bit of a no brainer although I'd like to see Cards win), Colts to beat Chargers, (who can never seem to raise their game when it really counts), Ravens to beat Dolphins (although once again I'd like to see Dolphins win), and Vikings to beat Eagles (who are away from home, so at least they wont get booed when they leave the field). They are possibly the best looking, even, match ups in years. This may well be the most enjoyable NFL playoff weekend.

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Congratulations. I'm sure you don't look a day over 49.

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I don't think the people in charge of the site want to do that. They are in business and from what they say it is not good business to make any sort of list. Instead they say to keep looking at the reviews and find out that way. A list is something I wanted to see, and so did a few others, but we are just people who post. Some of the other posters did not want to see a list of any sort and have said the same thing the moderators have said - no list, just reading the reviews should be enough.

I have already stated the obvious reasons for having a list. It makes it easy for everyone to find all the shady, dishonest and dishonourable sites in one place. This is great for us as customers, but not so good for TBP. The reality is, it is much more likely to cost the bad sites money when you can find a list of all the bad ones, because people don't have to look around to find them. This especially applies to people new to TBP and PU. It makes it much easier for them to get tipped off quickly and easily. But I think the attitude of TBP and PU is that their sites are business concerns not charities. They will only go so far, and making a list is not something they are willing to go with, no matter how it is worded. Edited on Jan 01, 2009, 11:07am

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Agree with what you are all saying. Have you ever noticed how even skin colour is the same on those sites? You can see one model on one site and she has exactly the same skin as all the others. See that same model on a different site and her skin loooks totally different. It's why some of the people here go on about the more natural look. The boredom threshold will kick in because if all the models look the same, it will be like just lookng at one model all the time. That is boring.

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