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12-10-12  09:36am - 4395 days #10
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


With the exception of a prepaid card, insane banking fees are why I am now running on cash only. In the course of my bank being bought out by another bank, I expected some new fees to pop up. One that raised my eyebrows was a monthly fee just for maintaining overdraft protection. Even if I didn't use it, there was a fee? I went to the bank, spoke to a representative and told her I didn't want overdraft protection and wanted it removed. After about an hour and a dozen phone calls, I was told it would be removed from my account. Not one to believe much, if anything, from a corporation, I got it in writing.

The following month... surprise!!! (Not) There it was. The overdraft protection fee. I'd had enough and closed the account. For the next six months, I got a bill in the mail for the fee, despite the account being closed. Even after faxing a copy of the signed letter to them, they kept sending me a bill. It took getting just short of abusive on the telephone with various people to finally get them to give up. "Take me to court. I have a signed letter" seemed to finally do the trick.

The whole thing just makes me wonder how many people don't look at their statements close enough to catch crap like this. Or, how many people would have just given in and mailed them a check. With more and more people trying to reduce their debt, I'm sure the financial institutions are frantically trying to grab whatever bit of cash they can, anyway they can.


The one compensation for all that crap is that time is money, so you are costing them a lot of time by writing to them and complaining. The more time you spend complaining the more it costs them in money, because of time it takes them to deal with the complaint. It's why I never hesitate to complain to organisations who I think might be ripping me off or attempting to rip me off. Cost them more than it costs them to implement all that trickery crap, and it is no longer cost effective for the bastards.

12-08-12  07:26pm - 4396 days #9
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Fake without a doubt.

I must be getting old, because I don't even find her attractive.

11-20-12  07:01pm - 4414 days #41
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Originally Posted by Claypaws:




Thank you. Was your "hobby" shooting models or something completely unrelated?


My hobby is completely unrelated.

You sound quite well adjusted (more so than I am!). It's good to have a number of interests, and have a realistic perspective.

11-19-12  07:43pm - 4415 days #12
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Denner, I can only agree with the others. For me your reviews, comments and opinions are amongst the best and most important on here. You are one of the "flagship" original members, and the place would not be the same without you.

It's simple, take a break from reviewing until you feel you want to do it again. Regulars (and semi regulars like myself), would rather take the time and get it right than just churn one out. You don't want to do a review because you want it to be of a high standard like your others. It's only a hobby but we take it seriously. IMO, that's the way it should be, and makes the place what it is. Edited on Nov 19, 2012, 07:56pm

11-19-12  03:00pm - 4416 days #36
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First of all congratulations to Claypaws. I am both pleased for you, and at the same time very disappointed. You have become one of the best reviewers in a very short time, your integrity appears sound, and you have great enthusiasm for the subject. I do not think you should have been designated webmaster. You are not a webmaster, and a little note that you contribute to this that or the other site should be enough to allow you to continue as normal here, and that includes reviews.

Is there a suggestion that the integrity of PU is brought into question because you contribute to one site and review another? You could argue that, but I could argue the integrity of TBP/PU is already questionable as they make money from linking to the porn sites that are reviewed. I have no trouble with that myself, but for me it certainly brings TBP/PU integrity into question far more than allowing you to continue to do reviews.

For me, a big cloud hanging over TBP/PU is the linking back to Porn Pros after link removal. The link was put back without a word as to why this happened. Pink Panther and myself questioned this. Not a word from TBP/PU staff. For me this says a thousand times more about TBP/PU credibility than allowing you to continue to do reviews.

This isn't an attack on TBP/PU, although it may sound like that, because I understand there can never be 100% credibility and integrity due to the nature of the beast. I still come to TBP/PU for 90% of porn reviews and comments. It's just reducing Claypaws to webmaster status unnecessarily deprives this site of a very valuable contributor. It's a question of degrees and relativity. Maybe you shouldn't have experienced webmasters doing reviews of competitors' websites - hmmm, come to think of it, that would be fun.

Claypaws, I hope you both enjoy your hobby and make some money. No one can ask more than that. As someone who makes money out of a hobby, I hope you never descend into some interminable black cloud of despair containing no hope, from which there seems to be no escape. I hope you don't start to hate that hobby with an intense passion like I did, and still do to a certain extent. That hobby can become a job and a chore.

I started out with the intention of making money out of it in the first place, and certainly knew what I was getting into. I am not disillusioned, and have always been realistic. I have always been money oriented and always will be.

I am sure there will come a time when the whole thing drives you round the bend and leaves you feeling tired and jaded, but the main thing is you are living that dream, so you get a big thumbs up from me. I think sometimes you just have to do what you want, because life is too short not to. If you are competitive and want success, I think it's good to have other hobbies and other interests, to keep things in perspective, and in case it doesn't all live up to expectations. I wish you much luck with your endeavours. Edited on Nov 19, 2012, 04:12pm

11-12-12  01:42pm - 4423 days #22
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Sorry to hear you have a brain tumour, admiral.

11-09-12  09:26am - 4426 days #20
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Nice to see ya Squirrel, have seen ya much lately


Thanks toad. I regularly look in to see what's happening at PU, but admittedly don't contribute as much as I used to. Good to see you still around too, as you have left a couple of times

Even though I tend to take the "don't vote it will only encourage them" and "if voting changed anything they would make it illegal" line, I'd take Carter and Obama over any other politicians, including British. He wont be allowed to do much, but it's nice to see one of the few politicians in history, who seems like a genuine human being, get voted in.

I though at one point the only chance for America was for Mitt Romney to do a nationwide tour of grassy knolls.

11-07-12  05:09pm - 4427 days #15
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Thank goodness the human being won.

10-30-12  08:15am - 4436 days #7
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Welcome to PU.

10-21-12  04:06pm - 4445 days #2
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Remarkably there are still people dumb enough to make this sort of thing profitable, or they wouldn't be doing it. It works. So do pre checked cross sales and mugging.

10-08-12  08:41am - 4458 days #7
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Yeah there was supposed to be a guy with a super dong about 40 years ago. All fake, and I've never much seen the point myself. Both cosmetic surgery and the prosthetic thing seems pointless, since I'm more interested in the girls than the stunt dick. I don't think it's used much, and I'm sure I haven't seen one in general porn.

Way back in the late 60's I remember a group of us kids talking of blow up dolls and whether the nude model in a porn magazine was one of those. Well, we were young.

10-06-12  06:32pm - 4459 days #2
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I suppose it would explain that pained look on the closeup face of the male performer. That brings up a good point. Does anyone know why they use that shot. Okay yes they can use it to cut and edit, but why not just cut there without focussing on the male face. They are hardly going to be working on The Hobbit are they? But no, for some reason in the minds of people so stupid they failed the exam question "Name Richard The Lionheart?," they must think focussing on the anguished male face is sexy or a turn on. It isn't.

Penile extensions - for those bimbo male airheads without a brain, just like their female cosmetic surgery counterparts. The very idea brings tears to my eyes. Edited on Oct 06, 2012, 06:39pm

10-04-12  10:52am - 4462 days #3
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09-30-12  07:03am - 4466 days #3
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First thing to do is cancel your credit/debit card and inform them you have been fraudulently charged.

Reality Kings looks to be No.1 in the charts for complaints recently.

09-24-12  11:13am - 4472 days #10
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Originally Posted by messmer:



Where I disagree is that a lengthy absence from Porn would cure me of my ennui.

Here's where I make my case: I go to one of my favorites "All Over 30" or "Aunt Judys" or "ATK Natural and Hairy" and I go back, back, back and all of a sudden I am swamped with hot, erotic picture sets where the models are still in very appealing clothes (including lingerie). The idea of going "commando" has not yet caught on. If this content were in today's quality I would never leave their archives.

Forward to the present: Now we have women and girls in jeans, or short jean skirts, some sort of top, a pair of very abbreviated cotton panties, which are hardly ever clearly shown in a frontal shot, and a pair of shoes with the average set containing roughly 8 - 10 pictures where they are fully clothed, then, pull up blouse, take down skirt and thong .. and voila a long series of almost identical nude shots. No increased pixels no super HD will make a set like that interesting to me. I am constantly amazed that it should be interesting to others!

I can't argue with you when it comes to videos. I know that videos are your preference and I agree that the quality has become much better over the years, even though I think there is an undue emphasis on enhanced breasts when it comes to my favorite age group and that the "actresses" strip too quickly before action commences!


Yes here is where I agree with you. Unfortunately each generation and advance brings its disadvantages. Porn will rarely be perfect because of very personal tastes and niches. At least at PU we can air our grievances, although we may be outside the porn norm, and therefore not worth listening to by the porn powers that be.

Sadly for you, your own personal tastes may currently be out of fashion. I well remember my quest to find a pair of trousers that were straight legged when flares were "in."

09-24-12  10:05am - 4472 days #6
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The old saying about nostalgia not being what it used to be applies. Old cliche but very true. The problem is selective memory and thinking, and getting stuck in a rut. Sometimes it's easier to get stuck in a rut and consume what you're safe with than seek out new material.

I am not talking just porn, it applies to everything. "The charts are crap, there's nothing worth listening to nowadays, it's almost a sign that your music is crap, if you get in the charts." Not said now, not said in the 90's, or 80's but said by an old school friend in 1974. John Peel was saying in 1980 about how everyone thinks 70's music was better, but if you really looked at the music charts in the mid 1970's they were filled with Wombles.

I may be one of the few who thinks the porn produced now is sensational. Not only sensational, but sensational value. Just like John Peel searching for great new music I continue to search for great new porn, and even on the worst sites, usually find it.

I'm still going to harp on about the great value, while people still moan about quality and quantity, because there is an abundance of quality and quantity. There's not so much of the stripping that messmer likes, but that is a very specialised niche. If you want a 45 and a third year old medium length strawberry blonde with a mole on the right side of her cheek, stripping down from a blue dress to red panties...okay I've made my point. General hardcore is available in huge quantities at amazing quality. There are a number of niches but some are rare. The more specialised your niche, the harder it is to find. That's true about most things we consume.

There was one site messmer loved but refused to pay $50 for it. Sorry but that's crazy given the value of what money will buy nowadays. If we want quality we have to pay for it, not only that, we should be happy and pleased to pay for it.

My memory is long so I still remember buying a truly crap 60 minute hard core porn video (illegal in the 1980's), for 60 GBP. An astronomical sum for then. Even if you're not allowing for inflation, 60 GBP today equals $100. Virtually no one will pay that for a month's subscription to any site or network in the modern day. You can spend more than a whole month's membership on one round in a pub or enough for a whole year's membership if you go out to dinner just once.

Enjoy the freedom of internet porn. If anyone really wants to know how good it is, stay away from porn for 8 weeks, or even 4 weeks. Go on I dare you. The you will start to see how far porn has come, and how good it is. Edited on Sep 24, 2012, 10:12am

09-23-12  03:53pm - 4473 days #8
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Originally Posted by gaypornolover:


If you're honest with yourself, you'll find there's a lot of porn which realistically you'll never watch again, so why keep it?


This sums up my attitude. There's no need to cut stuff that you'll watch again, but some material is just hoarding for hoarding's sake. When in doubt keep it, as the cost of a new drive is very cheap given the amount you can store on them, but you will find a lot you know you will never watch again.

One piece of unusual advice I would like to offer is this - quite often nowadays I stream, and download only what I consider likely to be worth keeping. If it's not stored you don't feel the pang of getting rid of it. Edited on Sep 23, 2012, 04:04pm

09-20-12  06:58pm - 4475 days #22
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Originally Posted by JayUK:


The point I was trying to make is the very rapid decline in the standard of journalism in the world.


You get no argument there. Looking at the reasons behind that, you just have to look at who owns the media, and the intelligence levels of those who buy newspapers.

09-20-12  06:46pm - 4475 days #4
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Castingxxx aka Fake Agent is similar to Exploited College Girls. Young Models Casting, Porn Newcomer, Casting Interviews, Cash Strapped Teens, Prvnicasting, the list is almost endless. Nearly every network has one of these. The days of Ugly George picking up girls off the street is long gone. Nearest to Exploited College Girls is Castingxxx which is a stand alone site from what I can remember, and Prvnicasting which may be a part of Czech Casting or may be a stand alone. Porn Newcomer is part of the New Sensations network.

At the other extreme are sites like Double View Casting, which "casts" quite a few girls who have been in the porn industry for more than 5 years and have probably had sex on camera more times than all PU members and TBP staff have had sex in their entire lives combined.

Reality is dead, or at least not all it's cracked up to be. Edited on Sep 20, 2012, 06:51pm

09-20-12  11:07am - 4476 days #3
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About 3 tons.

09-20-12  11:04am - 4476 days #20
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I thought that really had to be turned into a T-Shirt:




Nice one Toadsith. I reckon you could be on to a merchandise winner there!

09-20-12  06:30am - 4476 days #17
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Forged documents, police statements changed by higher ranking officers, evidence buried etc etc etc. This was all done to avert the blame from the authorities and on to the common man as is sadly so often the case.


I agree about the Hillsborough case, but to compare that with the death of an over privileged person who married for money and position actually highlights the difference between those who seek fame and fortune, and those who end up in the press due to unfortunate or tragic circumstances. The press could have helped to seek justice but didn't.

The media is owned by the rich and privilleged, and that's who they are batting for. Rather ironic that those the paparazzi make money out of, are the rich and privileged. Diana was in a car supposedly fleeing the press, not some crazed gunman, mugger, or rapist. She was in no physical danger, unlike those at Hillsborough. I regarded her death as meaning there was one less undemocratic parasite to pay for.

I agree with Toadsith's comment " The intense media interest surrounding them is not a symptom of their lives, it is one of the foundations of their lives. I do not care that most of the Royalty are born into their titles, their lives are so outrageously privileged that they should be able to weather some rude folks with cameras. I find appeals to our humanity with stories of the trials and tribulations of life in front of a paparazzi's lens ridiculous and factitious." Couldn't have put that better myself.

The only thing I would add about the royals is we are given no choice but to pay for them. It's a history of inbreeding, thuggery, stealing, murder, invasion, pillaging, raping, and slavery. After all that they declare themselves, "royal." That the British public do too, shows how stupid some of them are. I'm not one of them.

09-18-12  05:14am - 4478 days #6
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I regard the royals as parasites, who are paid to breed. I may feel a little sorry for celebrities who have their privacy invaded at times, but not worried about prostitutes having photos of their breasts published.

09-11-12  07:51am - 4485 days #7
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So they'll have 78 instead of 39 sites of shit porn, with tattooed, muscular, fake tanned, fake breasted, 35 year olds, with toast rack ribs, trying to look 22, but looking 78 trying to look 22, who look as though they've been shot in the back with two trident missiles, that got stuck half way....oh yeah, and still no customer service. Edited on Sep 11, 2012, 08:25am

09-02-12  05:52pm - 4493 days #4
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True about Europe, but we've always been behind here in the UK. You could get two years inside for selling videos or mags that were freely available in Holland, or Sweden. It's only in the past few years it's become better over here. What did it was the aforementioned satellite porn, beamed from Europe.

You could either buy pirate cards or genuine cards for adult channels. Government tried to stop the wave of filth, but there were so many grey areas and so many people selling and so many wanting to subscribe, it was hard to prosecute, so we finally entered the 20th century, even though it was the 21st century.

I bought both pirate and legit cards. As the prosecutions eased up it became easier to buy legit cards. It was only internet porn that stopped me subscribing to satellite. I guess satellite porn was the first generation of porn being available over here without going to prison for it.

I haven't looked at satellite porn for about 6 years now, so I don't know if it's changed, but when I was watching, it was quite vanilla and plain. A few bits of spanking and light bondage, but nothing like what we see nowadays.

09-02-12  05:05pm - 4493 days #2
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I used to subscribe to some of those satellite channels. About £130 for a year from what I remember. Maybe it's changed in a the last few years, but to be honest I haven't a clue what he's on about.

The main thing is if you get a reply as pig ignorant and rude as that, it doesn't really matter what his opinion is, because he is too unimportant for it to count.

09-02-12  04:55pm - 4493 days #9
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Hey, Squirrel, you tell 'em, man. I especially liked the part about simply not joining their site and taking your shillings elsewhere. I've dropped subscriptions "in vivo" over the pre-checked sales boxes myself before, too. You never know what ELSE is lurking behind even that!

The problem doesn't seem to be as bad as it used to be, but some people never learn! So scuttle their butts and move on to something that doesn't rattle.


Cheers Drools! Yes, the best way of voting is with your wallet. There are so many places that are customer oriented, honest, reputable, and don't try to con you. We should be supporting those, the rest can go to the wall. Purchase from the decent ones, not the cheats. There is only so much money we have to spend on porn, let's do it selectively and keep the good ones in business. It's also a big worry if you give your card details to the bad ones, you don't know what they will do. Edited on Sep 02, 2012, 04:58pm

09-02-12  11:18am - 4494 days #7
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Originally Posted by Capn:


That is exactly the way I feel about the Regional Pricing Scam!

Cap'n.


Yes I totally agree with you on that too! I'm not joining any site that has it no matter how good their material.

09-02-12  06:10am - 4494 days #5
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Hi The squirrel you are doing the right thing if you like to stop sites doing thing like that. if they see a drop in there money they will change thing in the end.It is the same with the memberships all most all will have you to sine up for 3 months.if people did not sine up to them they would change it. it is all down to the consumer in the end.
Thing do change with less money lol


Yes, it pays them to try and trick people. There are many sites I would pay good money to download from, but will not ever join because of cross selling. The only people who can stop them is consumers (and maybe government, but only because of other industries using cross selling). If they try to con you, don't join. Most of the time you will see the cross sell, but others may not. Cross selling is stealing. I think I shall refer to it from now on as pre checked cross stealing.

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^Although I agree that pre-checked cross sell are always a bad thing and a bane on the porn industry. That's not why people use torrent and tube sites. People use those sites because they are cheap F..g bastards(sorry for my French) who will use any and all reason to justify stealing porn. I had an argument on another forum with a guy because he tried to defend someone who's excuse for using tube sites was because the type of porn he likes is too hard to find.

If it's that hard to find then why is it on tube sites and
maybe if he actually paid for his porn then someone would make more of it. The thieves are winning the battle but we will all lose the war. Good luck finding new stuff to watch on tube sites when most porn studios are dead.


I agree to a certan extent, but only a certain extent, because shady behaviour is one thing that tarnishes the porn industry, and always has. It is one of many reasons why some people download for free. I was about to sign up with them, and now will not. They will lose me, but for everyone they lose there may be two who miss the pre checked cross sale. They do it because it pays them to try and trick people. I would have no qualms about downloading their material for free.

Apart from the piracy side of things, even if there were not free downloads, shady behaviour does hurt the porn industry. I think many do not go near subscribing to a site because of dubious behaviour and credit card worries. It would be nice to see a reputable billing company like Epoch stand up and say we will not support this practice. Obviously government may stop this sort of thing too. Edited on Sep 02, 2012, 05:54am

09-01-12  06:34pm - 4494 days #15
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I think that above the being careful is the sad reality that too many porn girls get implants that are so big that the space in between the breast is too small for a guy to even attempt to insert his penis there.


Not unless he wants a cheap circumcision.

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Okay I've had enough. What of? Fucking pre checked cross selling that's what. Tonight I was about to sign up to 18xGirls. Great price, but they tried to con me into signing up to VideosZ. Below is the mail I sent to customer support. I am fed up with this bullshit. Trying to con people out of their money is not on. I guess I am a one man show on this but I feel so strongly about it I thought it was time to at least stand up and be counted. This is what I put:

"Pre checked cross selling is a pet hate of mine. I am a member of Porn Users and post there regularly. I have always hated sites who try to con punters out of their money. If it wasn't a con then the box would be UNCROSSED and left to the individual to cross. Obviously it is there to deceive and hope punters don't notice it, and then be too embarrassed to complain to their credit card company.

This is why free download sites do so well. The porn industry is full of people who try to rip off customers, and those who can't be trusted sadly hurt the bona fide trustworthy sites. You have lost a customer in me, and give the industry a bad name. I will be signing up with someone else. You are obviously far too shady to give any credit card details to.

I shall be posting this on Porn Users. I hope us consumers can support the genuine sites who deserve our support. End pre checked cross selling. It's a con, and makes any company who uses it, to be a shady bunch of scumbags who cannot be trusted." Edited on Sep 01, 2012, 06:36pm

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I never get tired of saying how much I hate them. Tattoos or fake breasts and suddenly it's instant turn off, like I've discovered they're really a guy, are 110 years old, have killed 2000 people, have a highly infectious sexual disease, or have really bad personal hygiene.

An interesting aside is do the gay members here consider tattoos on the guys as a plus or minus or doesn't it make any difference? I have always considered tattoos look better on males than females.

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It's all very much a case of personal taste, but anal does seem to be "in" at the moment. A shapely ass and anal has always been a like of mine, but to what degree those anal sites appeal, depends very much on the individual. For instance those really explicit closeups with gaping rectums are not a turn on for me.

I think Anal Teen Angels do it really well, next to that the Teen Core Club mob do it reasonably well. Anal can be done in a clean, anodyne, artisitc, without any hint of body juices sort of way. I prefer those. Why that is, I don't know.

Good thread Denner, it will be interesting to hear other replies.

08-30-12  07:45pm - 4496 days #7
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Absolutely agree about a PU warning. I would never join a streaming only site. Sometimes it is unclear when no downloads are allowed. Sites are hardly going to be up front about this as it's going to put off potential customers. Another example of sites being dishonest - or at least economical with the truth, and that is what drives customers to free downloading, because they mistrust the porn industry.

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Originally Posted by Claypaws:


Anything that is treasured should always be stored in at least two different devices.


An external drive WILL fail eventually, so anything valuable should be stored on two external drives. I had never used them before Khan and BadAndy gave me some advice, now I wouldn't be without them.

07-13-12  05:58am - 4545 days Original Post - #1
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After warnings today from Shooterbo concerning credit card details apparently already known, and PinkPanther describing some seriously dodgy behaviour from Reality Junkies is is time for some of the best companies to club together and form some sort of union? I am talking about a code of practice, resulting in a badge for the best ones, who deliver at the high end of customer satisfaction.

It shouldn't be left to TBP/PU because that would cost them money. They can only go so far as they are a business who profit from promoting online porn. Distinguishing between the good from the bad themselves could mean a fall in profits, but maybe the online porn industry as a whole should have some sort of code, and the best ones should get together as a type of union specialising in good customer relations. Things like pre checked cross sales and regional discrimination means you don't qualify of course.

At a time when the legit companies are having their margins squeezed due to free downloads, it's time the best ones clubbed together with a code of practice, so that we as customers could support them (with our pockets).

07-13-12  05:58am - 4545 days #4
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Yes that is scary, and it sounds like it is also illegal. The best case scenario is that you have sigend up through another site in the network or some affiliate. Not good news for porn at a time when legit sites are under pressure from free downloads.

06-23-12  06:35pm - 4564 days #7
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As usual I agree with Denner. Like Toadsith I watched for about a year before deciding to join, and am glad that I did, although I am a relative newbie, having joined in late 2008.

I am a little worried about PU surviving in the current financial climate. I have to admit I have been thinking PU may close its doors this year or next, but would love to be wrong.

The life of most forums is very short indeed, and I hope this one continues. It is indeed good fun, and has a great cross section of characters, who although clearly very different, are also incredibly civilized. Members here can agree to disagree without getting angry. Not many forums around you can say that about.

I think it was BadAndy who put his finger on the reason. We have accepted the fact we love porn, and are unapologetic about it. That means we are at peace with ourselves. Edited on Jun 23, 2012, 06:39pm

06-13-12  06:39am - 4575 days #2
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Sorry to hear that. Poor bugger. Best wishes to him and his other half. Eye surgery - worst nightmare, hope they are both on their way to recovery.

Hang on, Khan's wife, isn't that you?

Whatever, wishes of a speedy recovery to both.

06-04-12  06:46pm - 4583 days #15
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Oh, and of course for correcting typos which (for me at least) seem to become obvious only after I hit submit.


I thought it was only me that can't see the typos until after it's posted. After about 20 edits I can nearly get it right.

06-02-12  10:32pm - 4585 days #2
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LOL nice one - although I wouldn't have the balls to do that!

05-25-12  07:26pm - 4593 days #2
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I think that must be Behind The Scenes.

05-17-12  01:44pm - 4602 days #19
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They're called Ferraris, or if you're a sad middle aged bastard - lawnmowers.

05-16-12  10:38am - 4603 days #5
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As long as there are unjust systems, people will continue to be murdered by countries who have the death penalty. The are only a very few who can be proven to be murderers. Most of those are prison governors, state governors, prosecutors, judges, and anyone who takes part in a murder.

It's simple - if someone who is murdered by the state, is proven to be innocent, judges, prison governors, state governors, guards etc. must die too. It's one of the few times I'd pull the lever or push the button.

If I were related to someone murdered I'd want to kill the people responsible. The problem is, unless someone is literally caught red handed, an unfair system then has to find those responsible, and there is always a big chance of a mistake, due to political pressures, and low budgets. However if I were related to, or loved someone, murdered by the state, I would want their blood, all of it. They should die too.

I have no religion, but if you're a Christian, I would say kill those responsible first, then forgive them. This all probably ties in with my politics. I have always considered the only good people in power are dead ones.

If life meant life, there is always a chance an unjust conviction can be overturned. If we had a just system there would be fewer unfair convictions. If countries made those in power responsible for unfair convictions, we would have a much fairer system.

05-14-12  11:10am - 4605 days #10
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I never have never joined any site that has regional discrimination or pre checked cross selling, and never will. The same very much appplies to download limits. It will be good to see some of these companies go out of business.

There is only so much money available in the economy that will be spent on porn. Let us hope a large part of it goes to those who deserve it. Edited on May 14, 2012, 11:16am

04-28-12  10:11am - 4621 days #6
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Yes it's the principle. I hate being ripped off. Rip off the rip off artists, and purchase from those who are consumer/customer oriented. You know it makes sense!

03-16-12  07:21pm - 4663 days #15
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Thanks for the tip-off and bringing this out in the open squirrel.... I need all the help I can get dealing with these guys.


It's new to me too! What is annoying though, is it took Epoch to make them reply. If not for Epoch, I don't think WTF would have replied, and I'd have had about two days use of membership, barely enough to do a review. Not a network I'd go with again.

03-16-12  07:17pm - 4663 days #14
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Originally Posted by hodayathink:


Also, what happens a lot is that when any site that has a membership signup is hacked (porn or otherwise), one of the first things those hackers will do is take those login names and passwords and try to use them on other sites to see if they work. So another thing that is possible is that some site that you have signed up to before got hacked (for example, DigitalPlayground.com was hacked a week or two ago), someone did a Google search on your username and found out you had just joined that site by the comment you left here, and used (or sold) that username/password combo.


That makes a lot of sense as well, so it's possible that's what happened. I rarely use the same password, but I do use the same username a lot of the time. Maybe I'll have to change it when they don't use the email as username.

03-15-12  02:55pm - 4665 days #11
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Thanks Simon, yours sounds like a good system. I have never had this happen to me before, but maybe it was a genuine attack on my login, rather than pique from the newtork.

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