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| 11-07-13 09:13am - 4063 days | #41 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
It's good to see you haven't disabled your account, so pleased to see you'll still be around. Like Turboshaft I wonder why RB did disable his account. | |
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| 11-06-13 08:16pm - 4063 days | #35 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I have to say I'm puzzled by some of the activity fall off. Why leave or disable your account? For instance, Raging Buddhist made a post then disabled his account. Why? There seems to be no reason for the older hands not to be still occasionally contributing. Why would Cap'n announce he's leaving? Things will pick up. I'm a minor contributor, don't post for long spells, but have never disabled my account, and don't see a reason to. I don't think Rick has been anything but honest in stating his intentions for PU, and that deserves some respect and support. I said in another post, that in order for the new PU to survive, we need more activity from Rick, Khan, and the whole TBP organisation because clearly porn users themselves cannot keep things ticking over sufficiently. It's possible there are not enough intelligent porn users out there, capable of stringing a few sentences together, who still wish to be active members. A shame, because the original line up of PU was incredibly strong. | |
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| 11-06-13 07:30am - 4064 days | #32 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
There are a number of factors, which have been gone into. I was going to say few of the newer members seem to be able to put together an informative review then saw some Parsnip reviews and gave him a trust vote. We may not like the same things but I trust he's expressing an honest opinion, and his reviews are well thought out and put together. I don't think things will pick up much until the new site sees the light of day. Not sure what's going on behind the scenes but with the continuing dislike and nothing being done about BangBros the jury is still out on the future of PU. A new site always generates activity, but after the original "what do you think of the new place" comments, there will need to be more input from Rick, Khan and co to keep things ticking along when activity falls off. There needs to be continual substance to keep things going, as it has already been demonstrated that porn users by themselves are not able to do this. | |
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| 10-25-13 05:58pm - 4075 days | #9 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I would agree with you except messmer and BubbaGump are regular PU members and have reported unsavoury business practices. Check out their comments. They are from a few years ago (I just checked the comments are from a year ago), and BB could have cleaned up their act, and it's possible there are some shills trying to blacken their name, but there's an awful lot of mud out there. So pat, would you say that these automatic sign ups don't happen, and that they don't try to trick members? They do have pre checked cross selling for starters, so that's not a good sign. It all depends on how far the trickery goes. PS - just in case you didn't read it here's part of the comment from messmer, one of our most reputable, respected, and liked members. He said "way too easy to do. Just click in the wrong spot and this site will be automatically added, using the credit card information you gave to Bangbros! Tiptoe very carefully through the Bangbros. tulips! PS. Not being careful is probably what happened to whowho (comment below.) P.P.S. I am so disgusted with the underhanded way this company is doing business now that I will let the remaining 27 days lapse without a return visit. No hardship in any case because I subscribed for the non-existent 1080p videos in the first place." Edited on Oct 25, 2013, 06:04pm | |
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| 10-25-13 12:38pm - 4076 days | #7 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
This is the sort of thing that could bite TGP/PU in the ass. You cannot claim integrity and still link to BangBros. | |
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| 10-23-13 05:51am - 4078 days | #3 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
A good analysis, highlighting some current business practices. I don't mind porn companies making a profit, or using practices like splitting up their network into different membership parts. What I really hate is trickery and deliberate attempts to con people out of their money. The more it continues the less likely people will be wanting to subscribe. Imagine dodging the minefield of being a newbie subscriber, without a site like PU to warn you of extremely dodgy behaviour. It will eventually chase away the ones there are left who are willing to pay for porn. I think as you get older you think about porn and sex a lot less. This may be more to do with the problems that arise in life, rather than just being too old for it. You are also more likely to be with a long term partner. Graymane - ever since I joined PU there has been a "not as good as it used to be" undertone to everything. There is less activity, but not a lot less at the moment. Over the months, activity increases and decreases. Four years ago they were going into the "PU is dying where will we find some new active members from," thing. In any forum there will be a newbie flurry of activity followed by a settling down period. Things will rarely be as active and exciting as they are at the start. | |
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| 10-19-13 05:15pm - 4081 days | #47 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
LOL! Looked at the middle one and thought, there's nothing wrong with that balcony. Duh. | |
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| 10-11-13 01:20pm - 4090 days | #30 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
OMG splashback. For some reason they make me chuckle. Looks almost like Darwin Award material. | |
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| 10-10-13 02:56pm - 4091 days | #28 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
They are brilliant photos though! | |
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| 09-26-13 08:02am - 4105 days | #38 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Actually I'm feeling quite chuffed with myself. After a mere five years I've recently found out how to put a highlight quote from two different people into the same reply - by using the " symbols at the top of the rectangle, then select member and copy and paste between the quote marks provided. Okay, I guess everyone but me knew how to do that anyway. | |
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| 09-26-13 06:18am - 4105 days | #29 | ||
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Turboshaft is thinking along the same lines as I am. Your knowledge, perspective, and presence, would be a great addition. With Rick saying PU gets a tenth of the hits that TBP gets, there is room for improvement. Khan, I understand your perfectly logical reasons for not wanting to contribute, but I weigh this against the chance to do something different in the new place. PU has been a small success, but this isn't, and shouldn't be a site just for Porn Users. In theory at least it's a place where Porn makers and those in the business can interact, or at least share a unique perspective. Your knowledge is unique to you; you are someone who is interesting and expresses themselves well. You're not going to be "one of the blokes," but your participation will add to, rather than subtract from, the new place. Maybe the dynamic needs changing, because obviously PU hasn't been a 100 per cent success. If anyone wants to take an opposite view or is afraid to express a view because of your opinions, too bad, and no, you wouldn't need to put a disclaimer on everything. Rick may not like forum participation, the same may go for the rest of the reviewers, but if you're doing this as a business, it's something you should think about. I realise the above is just my opinion, and I could be wrong. Rick has to do it his way, but from my point of view if there's going to be change, let's see something different and sparkling that's entertaining and retains interest. I want to be entertained. | ||
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| 09-25-13 06:51pm - 4105 days | #9 | ||
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Very well put. If I were an internet kid I would have simply put ^ ^ +1, but us older people like to use letters and words. It's almost revolutionary nowadays.
Don't worry, you wont be. Most of the members here aren't leaving because there's no reason to. Far from it, I consider Rick deserves some bloody support and respect for what he has said. Of course, I share Cybertoad's reservations as he knows what he is talking about, and I always listen to what he has to say, but we gotta give Rick the benefit of the doubt, because of what he has achieved thus far. You have to give it a chance, in fact you have to give it quite a bit of time, because Rick didn't have to tell us anything, he could have just changed it all in a fait accompli. | ||
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| 09-25-13 05:48pm - 4105 days | #6 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I'm sorry to see him go, but he'll be back. I'm not sure what he means by "destructive interaction," it's just a forum, but as forums go, it's as good as any I've seen. It's always sad to see the original members leave but we've held on to most of them. There's a lot of good stuff here, and the core will transfer to the new place and evolve. I'm surprised how much of this free evening I have devoted to PU. Time to get back to some more TV and chill out. Edited on Sep 25, 2013, 05:51pm | |
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| 09-25-13 03:02pm - 4106 days | #22 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Khan says he likes to stay out of our threads. Rick says posting on the forum distracts him and takes up too much of his working time. First of all they aren't our threads. Rick/Khan and the rest of you, this is your site, and I think staying away is a mistake. Has it ever occurred to you both that, since this is your place, we look forward to reading your posts and observations? Being in the industry gives you a different perspective to the rest of us, so your opinions are entertaining and interesting. You need to be here more not less. Your presence makes the site more entertaining, and I want to be entertained. Interact and survive or remain aloof and die. I still don't see where the problem is, not now. There would be a problem if everything was being wiped out but it isn't. Rick has made the mistake of treating people like human beings rather than customers, and unusually given people here the privilege of finding out about his plans long before they see the light of day, and even asking their opinions. A few of the members here are overreacting and kicking him in the bollocks. I don't see any problems now, mainly due to what Rick and Khan have said. I'm not worried, in fact I'm excited by the prospect of something new and stimulating. This is progress. If PU only gets a tenth of the hits that TBP gets, there's plenty of room for growth. Let's face it, some of the content on here hasn't been brilliant. Design and ideas move on. Let's see what they come up with. It's not like we're paying for it. The more I think about it the more I think Rick is right. If anyone wants to leave I'm going to miss them, but I think the core of us will be staying to see what the new places are like. If the core goes along, there's a chance new design, style, and ideas, will attract another generation. Coming from one of the most negative people I know this is sort of strange - stop the negativity. | |
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| 09-25-13 11:45am - 4106 days | #2 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I don't mind being the first to comment. It was inevitable, but will give you a break, time to reflect, and enable you to focus more on the positive things. I think taking a break, even from a hobby, is good, because even hobbies can become boring and leave you feeling jaded. Your contributions will be missed. I don't see many personal attacks or spiteful attacks on here, just disagreements. It is okay to disagree, and this is one of the most civilized places to do that. Maybe I was wrong and you're not angry, just despairing and fed up. Time to take a break, then come back when you feel like it. Edited on Sep 25, 2013, 11:49am | |
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| 09-25-13 11:20am - 4106 days | #20 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Okay my mistake, we all make them. You did sound angry, and you sound angry now at my post. I took a long time to make a long post, and then maybe missed an important point. If we say everyone's going to leave, and the new place is going to be rubbish, then leave, it will be a self fulfilling prophecy. Let them build it, do all the work, then reap the benefits. I've always found this a bit of a hobby. If a review feels like work I don't do it. That may be how we all approach the new site. Let Rick and co do the work, others do the legwork like reviews, and just enjoy the benefits, as we've all been through the review and contributions bit. I think you misunderstand some of the reactions. Most of us find your posts highly entertaining whether we agree with them or not. For the most part I agree with what you say, but even when I don't, I still find it entertaining. That's what makes PU the place it is. I missed out the bit about myself that ran, arrogant big mouthed son of a bitch, but I'm backing my judgement. You still sound pissed to me. Edited on Sep 25, 2013, 11:31am | |
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, said my piece now I'll go download some porn and let everyone else deal with this . 
| 09-25-13 09:56am - 4106 days | #17 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
We're all black sheep of a kind, Toad. It's what makes the place it is. With me it's my constant nagging and anti social comments about what I see as scummy behaviour and dodgy practices, and encouraging downloading material for free instead of paying membership to dishonest rip off merchants. Cap'n is always going on about regional discrimination (and I support him in opting to boycott those sites). Pat is forever yelling "woe woe and thrice woe, the end of the porn industry is upon us." Messmer is forever leaving. Drooler is damaged, don't take no shit, is completely mistrusting of anyone, and doesn't mind delivering the occasional short sharp kick in the bollocks. Exotics4me is severely scarred from being exposed to severely scarred people in his line of work, but has a distinctive way of looking at things because of that, and so on. We're all a strange bunch, with our own idiosyncrasies. You can choose to leave or choose to stay, but most of us would prefer you and the originals stayed. We may as well see what the new sites are like. It may not be to our taste, in which case we can all just eventually fade away, but from what Rick has said I am now looking forward to seeing the new places. We understand this is a business place for Rick and Khan, and we are visitors. Our hobby is their business, but we get a free place that gives us a chance to say what we think, with not too much censorship, and has resulted in a symbiotic relationship of sorts. PU has taken a downturn but it's still more active than most forums, which don't last more than a year or two. It's a business decision from Rick, but may well be one that needed taking. There's a danger the old guard may feel alienated and pissed off some of their work is missing. There's a lot of stuff on here which will be left behind, but how many people will be digging to look through it anyway? Will we be swamped with shills and kids who can post in text only or can't string two sentences together? Yes, there's a chance, but we have to give it a go in order to benefit. The reason I'm hanging around is because this place isn't a way of life, and isn't my favourite forum. I am realistic about my contributions, which I am proud of, but aren't going to win any awards, or encourage many memberships. They are instantly disposable, and even if I'm given the option of bringing them over wont be doing so. Let Rick and Khan do the work, then see what the new place will be like. We have two options, stay or go, or maybe a third where we pop in occasionally and grab what benefits we can. Yes, you're pissed off because Rick is doing it his way, and because he's breaking up something we know and love. I can see your point of view, but Rick HAS to do it his way. I know that because that's what I do. I pay for professional help (no, not psychiatrists!), I listen to them, along with friends and family, then I decide for myself, because at the end of the day, I want success or failure to lie with what I do. I do not want to ignore my gut instinct, follow someone else's advice, then fail because of that. It hurts to fail, but it hurts worse if you go against your own instinct, listen to someone else, then fail because of it. | |
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| 09-24-13 06:09am - 4107 days | #6 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yeah Ed's a good'un. He's always provided insight and a different perspective. I am not as negative as some, as porn will always be an earner. There's been a porn downturn but there has been so much of it produced in recent years there was going to have to be some sort of correction with the weakest failing. One of my worries is the nastiest and biggest porn cheats will draw money away from the more honest, customer oriented and reputable ones. I don't see the new TBP sites as being a rearrangement of chairs on the Titanic, because porn isn't the Titanic; it's going to survive, and people are going to make money. The new sites will survive if they're good enough, and if there's a market for them. | |
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| 09-16-13 03:49pm - 4115 days | #91 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Move along now, nothing to see here. | |
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| 09-14-13 06:02pm - 4116 days | #76 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
No you're wrong, you definitely shouldn't keep your mouth shut because what you have said gives me a lot of hope and makes me look forward to the new sites. I like the ideas you are talking about, and from the sound of it, so do others here. I have always taken a lot of time and care over my reviews, and am very proud of them, but things change so quickly in internet porn (everything changes apart from England losing at football), that they are soon past their sell by date, then become redundant. Sites I reviewed more than a year ago have mostly changed so much that no one would read the review and have an idea of what the site is about nowadays, which is the whole point of doing the review in the first place. They served their purpose. I hope they informed punters like myself, and at the same time earned PU/TBP a few bucks. I don't see any need to bring them over to the new site. Case in point - Teen Mega World which has changed a lot since I did a review over a year ago. They originally didn't have pre checked cross selling, then they brought it in, then they removed it for trickery far worse. Raging Buddhist - the reason I didn't make a Comment was because I had already added to the Monahan Caveat Emptor Comment. I didn't make a separate one because I didn't want to promote them by mentioning their name even if my views were negative. Maybe I should. As for the new sites, I am looking forward to them. Like an old dog with a bone (or me with an old cliche) I just keep on grinding away at the same old thing - there is a lot of money to be made in porn, so why shouldn't it be made by sites with honest decent management and owners who have some kind of respect for their customers and some kind of customer service, rather than a bunch of rip off scumbags? We should be supporting the good guys. Edited on Sep 14, 2013, 06:15pm | |
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| 09-13-13 06:54pm - 4117 days | #67 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Everyone has their own personal bee in the bonnet. Mine has been pre checked cross selling, regional discrimination, making it impossible to cancel membership, and now even worse, the automatic upsell sign up now practiced by Naughty America, Teen Mega World and others. I am hoping the new site will much more actively distinguish between these tricksters and genuine customer oriented sites. I am becoming more and more wary about signing up to any site, and am now feeling very negative about the online porn industry. This spills over into negative thoughts about TBP/PU because I don't consider enough has been done to differentiate between the two types of attitude, and business practice. I wont repeat my other earlier observations, which may or may not be correct, but clearly this is a gamble from Rick and co. I am looking forward to seeing what the new site will be like, but I think the changeover should have been quicker, and now momentum and customer base could have been lost. I was preparing a Teen Mega World review for the new place based on the mockup, but have shelved it simply because of their trickery in using automatic sign ups for anyone who tries to look at the "specials" sites. These practices should be illegal, but all I can do is boycott any site I find uses this sort of trickery. I cancelled straight away and shelved my review. I am not feeling particularly positive about the online porn industry. The new place should have integrity. In the past sites which PU/TBP refused to link to because of many negative comments were occasionally magically linked to again without any comment about the reason why. Porn is getting that scummy rip off image again. Money can be made by ripping people off, but once you go down that route the customer base here is going to be very different. It's obviously been hard for the team here at PU/TBP. As someone who can see arguments for both sides, I do think Rick cares about what people here think, but as he's pointed out this is a business. His livelihood along with others is invested in this place, so although he's going to listen he may also have to make decisions which will alienate older members. If it's a choice between alienating older members and making a living he's going to choose to make a living. We need to see the new sites before we judge, but I think a grave mistake has been made by not having a plan in place for a quick changeover. If they go under, I merely lose a place of interest where I pop in occasionally to amuse myself, whereas some people lose their job, their livelihood, their lifestyle etc. Lots of pressure. | |
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| 09-04-13 06:31pm - 4126 days | #12 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Likewise honoured to be in that group of members. Comes at a time when I'm not feeling overly enthusiastic about online porn due to the increasing dirty tricks and dishonesty, and I'm starting to feel the same way about TBP and PU. It's only the members and comments that keep me coming back. Good to see you've decided to stick around Cybertoad. Not enough lately from old regulars Exotics4me, Drooler, Wittyguy, Toadsith, or Badandy, and even Denner is contributing less nowadays. | |
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| 08-29-13 04:04pm - 4133 days | #3 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Let's see now. My ex girlfriend is now in porn, and I don't like it so I think I'll murder her...sorry I mean execute her. The girlfriend before that is a bit of an embarrassment to my professional career so I think I'll murder, I mean execute her too. Just substitute the word execute with murder. It's nothing that most world leaders don't do all the time, it's just they're a little more subtle about it. As long as you're powerful enough you can do what you want. These are the people who make up the law, so you should never respect the law, just your own moral law. It's a shame our western leaders don't get their knickers in a twist as much about this as they do about Assad and Syria, but then North Korea is a little more powerful. Just announce Kim Jong-un is a murderer and sentence him to death in his absence, then encourage all the dissidents in Korea to go get him, like they did with Gaddafi. But no they'll do lots of business with him, shake hands with him, while all the time thinking what a piece of garbage, but our pieces of garbage are just as bad. Only good one's a dead one. Murder is fine as long as you're murdering people you don't like or are an obstruction to you, just don't get caught, or be powerful enough to do it openly. That's the message we send to the kids and to every human being on the planet. Do I respect the law? No. I've made the point before, but the only law is your law. Everyone else is the enemy, so get away with what you can, and with what your conscience will allow. | |
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| 08-19-13 11:03am - 4143 days | #33 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yep, but what did you expect? PU members take pride in their contributions, so seeing them wiped out wasn't going to go down well with some. You say you have put lots of thought into this so I presume you are well aware that plenty link from those reviews. The fewer the reviews the fewer the paid links. That means less money. You must have taken this into consideration. Once the new sitea are set up new members will be drawn to the new sites, so will not be using links from PU/TBP. It sounds like I am being critical, but it is merely my subjective observations, if that isn't an oxymoron. I enjoy sitting on the fence, but have to admit my left buttock was just leaning towards the old members (not a pretty picture). However, my left buttock is now leaning towards you. The reason is you started this all off and made a success of it, and anyway, it's yours, not ours. We should have a little faith in you not taking decisions lightly. You must have thought about these things, because from the little I know about you from your contributions, you're not an idiot. We come here on your terms because you own the site. You do not want to alienate old members for financial reasons, but you also surprisingly seem to care about what they think on a personal level. You are possibly in a position of having to gamble or see it all slip away. The choice is obvious, so I wish you well with the new ideas. If the new sites stay long enough for the old contributions still to be accessed for a while, that's a good compromise. Things change so much old reviews become redundant after a year or two anyway. Yes we will have to put up with a new start and PU/TBP history and references harder to access, and eventually wiped out. Tough desicions have to be made for survival. Edited on Aug 19, 2013, 11:38am | |
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| 08-18-13 07:06pm - 4143 days | #26 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I wasn't going to say any more, but I am very surprised at Rick's reaction. He does seem to genuinely care. Personally I haven't given up on the new site, it's just I feel the new site will rely more on new, rather than old members, because of the inability to transfer what amounts to the history of PU. I could be very wrong about that. We are not the pulse of porn. It could be the opposite. Members here could have tastes that are so completely different to what is porn norm, it could be commercial suicide for either website owners, or Rick to listen to them. Maybe it would make more economic sense to listen to our opinions and then do the opposite. Listening to others is fine, however I do feel you have to listen to your own inner voice and instincts to make decisions, because at the end of the day, each person's future, well being, and economic security, depends on those decisions. Gotta go for it. | |
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| 08-18-13 11:14am - 4144 days | #17 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
It has been a kind of symbiotic relationship. They make money out of our contributions, and we get a place to express ourselves. It isn't without rules or censorship, but even free forums have rules and moderation. We have had the advantage of discounts and a little free money from the raffles. It is the end of TBP/PU, but this is a business, run by businessmen, and I think we have always understood this. Obviously this place cannot go on without change, and this is the way they have chosen to start anew. We do not have superior taste to other porn lovers, we are merely males (for the most part) who enjoy looking at females (for the most part, but the gay additions have been welcome), without clothes, posing, having sex, or doing something without clothes. We like porn, and that's all. I am not sure our tastes are typical of most porn lovers, but those who contribute here drive the income. It is no longer a sufficient income given the economic climate. It has been fun, and I am sad that it's to be the end of PU/TBP, but six years is quite a long time for a forum. Many products feel they have to rebrand or change in some way, to keep up with the rest. Some do it successfully, others do it disastrously. My gut instinct is the success of the new place will depend on the new generation rather than the old guard, because of the inability to carry over material. I could be wrong, but that's how it looks from this side of the fence. Personally I'm happy to keep in touch with any old members who want to keep in touch, so if anyone wans to pm me I'll keep in touch with them. Edited on Aug 18, 2013, 11:37am | |
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| 08-17-13 05:43pm - 4144 days | #9 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Positives - Handpicked clips and videos, the trustporn idea, porn bargains, and the myporn facebook idea. More pictures of naked models decorating the place will attract more punters, therefore promote porn and build income. Good for everyone. Negatives - People like continuity, so starting over again with a clean sheet is bad. I've never liked dark sites, in fact changing the look is not so good for old timers, but maybe good for new members. Somewhere in the middle - The TBP reviews are near to perfection. The way the information is displayed is going to be hard to beat. You may succeed, but changing it may be disastrous. Changing the feel and look of PU will possibly lead to old timers leaving, feeling alienated, or contributing less, but may encourage a new generation of active members. Being closer to some porn sites and promoting them, may help them and help yoursleves, but the impartiality and integrity you had, may disappear. You will now be associated with the porn sites you are promoting, so your views on sites from now on will be coloured by this. I am tempted to say that change here will not change the finacial situation in the porn industry, however it's possible you may be a leader, and instigate change through innovation. Time will tell. | |
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| 08-04-13 10:39am - 4158 days | #18 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
You're talking pornageddon, and it's just a matter of opinion, but I don't see it coming to that. There are too many people still paying for it. Time will tell. I do think there will be a lot more going to the wall before it bottoms out, so to speak. | |
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| 08-03-13 05:51pm - 4158 days | #16 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
They can compete when there are fewer of them churning out very cheap run of the mill stuff, and so can a minority producing slightly different or high quality stuff. People will still pay for porn and are doing so. Rick just said they are generating sign ups and are still profitable. There are still new clips being produced, just fewer than before. It may not be something we like but it's reality and market forces at work. | |
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| 08-03-13 10:26am - 4159 days | #12 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I can't agree more. It sounds like Pat has taken leave of his senses. Porn dying? It maybe changing and sites maybe dying, that may even include TBP/PU, but porn like sex is going to be with us as long as there are human beings. It's just natural and a way of life. Might as well say television is dying because Magnum is cancelled. Things are changing. There is too much run of the mill porn for everyone to survive and make good money. It's a shame there will be less choice, and I agree with Pat on that one. There will be far less available and far less choice, but that's market forces, and simple economics. I think Pat is right in the situation being very serious for a large number of people in porn, but that's not the same as porn dying. It's just a way of life. Great analogy from thirstyfish too. Welcome to PU. One other thing, the fallout is far greater than I thought. I have noticed things changing a LOT recently. There are now far fewer new shoots than I expected. I don't disagree with Pat all the time, I am merely not as negative as he is. Edited on Aug 03, 2013, 10:34am | |
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| 08-02-13 04:56pm - 4159 days | #2 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Have to agree with you. I figured the newsletter was one of the casualties, but the quality of reviews and comments here has also declined. Is it my imagination or is there less activity on the TBP site as well? The forum on the other hand looks about the same to me. Same people, same moans and groans. Not saying that's a bad thing either. The forum never featured in the raffle so what you see here is basically honest stuff, from people who wish to get something off their chest. Edited on Aug 02, 2013, 05:38pm | |
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| 07-29-13 09:36am - 4164 days | #2 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
It's an excellent idea, but I have a feeling you're too near the piracy and free downloads borderline. There is political correctness here too, and it's all about paying for porn, because that's how this organisation makes money. I realise you are merely talking about a forum that has porn no longer available, and that cannot be bought anywhere else. Sounds good but I have a feeling you'll not get much positive feedback here even though it's a very good idea. One suggestoin would be to run it with adverts and links from bona fide porn sites who have connections and links from PU, so basically you're helping them find some customers. | |
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| 07-28-13 06:30am - 4165 days | #7 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Hope you're gonna be okay Graymane. Wonderful advice Josiah, I agree with Graymane, this is just the sort of stuff we need here at PU, and hope you stick around. | |
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| 07-27-13 04:50pm - 4166 days | #28 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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This is true but it depends on perspective. They sold land which had been stolen from the original owners. Their ancestors invaded, fought, killed the inhabitants, one another, then the survivors exploited the resources. Nothing new there. The Queen and Charles own over �1bn worth of land. There was a great documentary on Channel Four about 10 years ago which exposed Charles as a rogue property developer riding over the small guy and the law. He is supposed to dislike property developers and the rape of the countryside yet was exposed as doing just that. I think the Royal Family en masse is supposed to cost the taxpayer just over 60p a year. I just hate 60p of my hard earned going to a bunch of people who are for all intents and purposes completely worthless human beings, have little intelligence, no idea about the world, or other human beings, no taste, no clothes sense, no ability to communicate, no sense of humour, are dull, boring, with no sense of decency, integrity or morality, and thoroughly rotten to the core... and these are supposed to be the people I admire and look up to? F**k no. Edited on Jul 27, 2013, 04:58pm | |
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| 07-26-13 02:00pm - 4167 days | #49 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
My guess is they're changing the PU background colour from green to blue. | |
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| 07-26-13 10:50am - 4167 days | #47 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Problem is these things should have already been in place. It doesn't affect the regulars, but it does affect the income of TBP/PU, because with a dead looking site, the majority who visit PU and TBP, link and pay the bills, will be less likely to visit if the site looks partly dead and unexciting. Things at PU maybe a bit boring for regulars, but PU and TBP is here to earn money. It can't be doing much of that recently. Once people go elsewhere they may not come back. | |
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| 07-25-13 03:54pm - 4168 days | #43 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Not a lot going on, and I'm generally very patient. A number of recent reviews and comments haven't been exactly inspired. The older members are still around but the place has gone downhill recently. | |
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| 07-24-13 03:34pm - 4169 days | #18 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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Nice one RB, I never knew that. Only took me 10 years to find out. | |
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| 07-24-13 06:13am - 4169 days | #18 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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Couldn't have put it better myself. Also it's not the slightest bit off topic, it's directly on topic. I have said in the past on this forum it's all about money and control. The internet is the one place left which has free speech, or at least close to it. Big business owns the media, but they don't own all websites or the whole internet, so they need to control it. Control and censorship is political, it shows us who is boss, and stifles protest. A free(ish) internet, is about to become a thing of the past. What could be a future is wireless or even satellite connections with renegade foreign isp's. Politicians have continually used terrorism and piracy in arguments for control. They need and want terrorism. 9/11 was perfect for them. If it was a fringe Islamic attack, it didn't harm government at all, it helped cement control. Those in power like Blair and Bush must have raised their eyes to the sky and thanked their god for this most wondrous gift. | |
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A post I saw on another forum really pointed out what will happen with this block| 07-23-13 05:50pm - 4169 days | #15 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I think it's all about having his father's eyes, linked to a picture of a demon holding a pair of eyeballs, and another of a demon bursting out of the stomach Not exactly a loud guffaw. | |
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| 07-23-13 09:53am - 4170 days | #15 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Although a non techno wiz, I know if you try to download a duplicate file it does let you know you already have that file and do you wish to replace the existing one. If you download a load of stuff into a new folder, then move it all to the original folder it will tell you when one of those files is a duplicate. I just press "no" then deleted all files which are duplicates. Our techno experts may have some better and more useful advice. | |
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| 07-23-13 06:34am - 4170 days | #12 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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A prostitute is paid to have sex, this one is paid to breed and that's what she's done, unfortunately she's a very expensive one. One more mouth to ponce off us. Weak kneed babble from losers who don't have a life, so have to live other lives by proxy. Fat stupid slobs sitting in front of a tv set will have changed channel from a 90's sitcom to feel good about that baby, and about restrictions on porn. They will feel good after beating some sense into the wife, then alternating between stuffing a 4000 calorie meal into their faces and picking mould from their yellow toe nails. However I far prefer them to Mr 100 IQ Sensible, who knows what he thinks because the media tells him what to think. Of course he believes they're all his own opinions, but he doesn't have either the time or intelligence to think for himself. He's too busy working 8 til 6 then driving home for two hours to a wife and kids that hate him. It was either him, or work and spinsterhood, so not much choice there. I prefer Mr Loser because he knows he has the life quality and expectancy of a battery hen, whereas Mr Sensible thinks he counts. Mr Loser I feel sad for, Mr Sensible I just want to smash in the face repeatedly with a hammer. I have anger issues. Edited on Jul 23, 2013, 07:00am | |
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| 07-22-13 04:46pm - 4171 days | #8 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yep anything to do with rape now is going to be banned. It will depend on how you, and more importantly the law, interprets it. You have to opt in from now on to be able to access porn. Thin end of the wedge? Very probably. It's not that long ago you were sent inside for selling straight hardcore. I know I ordered some videos from someone who received two years for selling some mainstream run of the mill American hardcore videos which wouldn't make you bat an eyelid nowadays. All you have to do is blame any violent act on online porn and the media owned by the very rich will be screaming for more controls, resulting in the general public, 90% of whom, just happen to be inferior fucking morons, to be screaming for the same thing. That's just the way I feel. Should I feel superior to most of them? Yes, probably. That doesn't make my opinion more important, I just happen to feel superior. Edited on Jul 22, 2013, 06:16pm | |
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| 07-13-13 07:30pm - 4179 days | #15 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
He was making cheap crap from the sound of it, so production quality would be even worse than cheap quality today. I have no particular love for 80's or 90's porn, whereas I generally like mainstream porn today, and think it is mainly very well done, although I hate the things that PU regulars really hate too. I am not the slightest surprised what diip says about the attitude porn producers and companies have about porn consumers. They churn out lowest common denominator stuff, but that lowest common denominator stuff isn't all that bad given the continuing increase in spec. I accept porn is mainly sausage machine or baked bean production, with a few mavericks, specialists, and niches outside mainstream. There are things that irritate me, but I look at all the amazing porn I have seen in the last 5 years and compare it to what I was watching 10-30 years ago and there's no comparison. It's only opinion, but from my perspective things look great. There is obviously now a downturn in production, but there had to be, as things couldn't go on the way they were. There was too much porn being made, and I am not as negative as some, about the future of porn. | |
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| 07-13-13 04:32pm - 4180 days | #13 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
What diip says has the ring of truth. When I watched a porn producer talk frankly on a late night chat show on British television about 20 years ago one of the things he said was along the lines of "it isn't about enjoyment or fun, the whole point of producing porn is to get it up and do it as quickly, as cheaply, as efficiently, and as many times as possible." I don't think much has changed. There will always be a few maverick male producers who do it for the enjoyment as much as for the money, but basically it's a sausage machine. | |
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| 07-09-13 10:41am - 4184 days | #6 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I agree with the points made. One of my own pet hates is the perpetual close up. Not a turn on, more a turn off. It's enough to put you off women and porn. It will continue because of lowest common denominator attitude. Messmer summed it up well. It is more about the average porn consumer, who isn't exactly over intelligent or fussy. As long as it's shoved in his face, he's happy. Maybe age has something to do with it too. The majority here are not very young, so we're in the minority when it comes to porn, and so is our taste. I like mainstream porn, but even I too, have a distaste for what are the PU pet hates. It probably isn't changing, it's more likely to get worse. Cheap as possible porn is plentiful and will continue because it's cost effective. | |
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| 07-04-13 05:54am - 4189 days | #5 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
They were around though. My partner says the same sort of thing about things not being so bad but I think they were. We have recently had a number of revelations about celebrities sexually molesting or raping children over here. The police didn't investigate. We are now becoming more aware. I saw the original post being duplicated again, and thought that was what Khan meant. My posts still occasionally get duplicated. | |
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| 07-03-13 09:59am - 4190 days | #3 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
It's your bugs again Khan, although I hear you can get a good powder for that. | |
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| 06-30-13 06:28am - 4193 days | #22 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I noticed the same thing about the quality of the reviews. One of the reasons suggested was regular members not wanting to do reviews of the same sites over and over, and without the raffle, it shows how much of an incentive that was. Reviews are the main reason for PU's existence, but nowadays I use free download forums as much as I use PU/TBP to determine which sites to join. I like to see a well written review, but seeing one 100 words long on the front page, doesn't encourage much further digging if you're new to the place. PU/TBP got this part wrong. Lousy reviews mean less income. Dodgy practices are now widespread, and it appears older members are less willing to try new sites. All in all it amounts to less action on PU. Edited on Jun 30, 2013, 06:31am | |
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| 06-28-13 06:25pm - 4194 days | #9 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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Hot hot hot. | |
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