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10-19-14  07:03pm - 3717 days #21
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^I wish you the best of luck if you decide to go ahead but let me warn you that if you think you can bring something new to porn than you are fooling yourself. You may be able to bring back something that is no longer there but you are more than a decade too late to invent the porn wheel.


It would be pretentious to claim that I could reinvent the porn wheel, as I sit here with nothing to show for it as of yet. Also, I am acutely aware of how much amazing, unique content has come and gone. You are astute to suggest that I might be able to bring something back that is no longer there. In reality, that is a large part of my motivation. I can think of several producers who have come and gone who have produced absolutely amazing content, content that had a unique style that has not been reproduced, and to the best of my knowledge their content is now partially lost. I can't do anything more about that despite my best efforts. What I can do, however, is to be inspired and produce something of my own. If I do ever produce porn, it absolutely will bring back some amazing stylistic features of past producers.

At the same time, I understand why it is easy to think that nothing new can be brought to the table in the porn world. With so many cookie-cutter scenes being churned out by some companies, it seems as if it has all been done already. In reality, there is a lot of new ground to be covered. Just as a small hint of what I have in mind, consider high dynamic range (HDR) photography in porn. To my knowledge, this has not been done yet, at least not on a commercial scale. Definitely not in scenes with motion, which present an additional challenge for HDR. You might argue that HDR is probably beyond the point of diminishing returns on investment, and you might be right, but if I ever do this, it will be a labor of love. I will work hard to recover my costs, but the greatest reward would be in the work itself. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

10-19-14  04:54pm - 3717 days #19
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I know exactly what you are saying Cybertoad and Wittyguy. You are right, there is a real chance of my cover being blown, and I would have to prepare for that. Objectively, it sounds like too risky of a prospect. At the same time, I know that I could bring something new and unique to the market, and it's hard to ignore that. Thank you for being the voices of caution. I will keep your advice in mind, and time will tell how this plays out. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

10-14-14  04:06pm - 3722 days #14
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


Hrm, you've got competing priorities here. The more successful you are producing porn, the more likely it will be that your alter ego will be stumbled upon by someone you know.


You are right about that. There is no easy solution.

At the same time, I feel like doing some porn shoots would be on the short list of things that I would like to do in life. Having seen so much of what's out there, and seeing so many aspects of shoots both done well and done poorly, I know that I could synthesize some of those elements together with my own style to produce something unique. I really feel like at some point in life, I just have to do this. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Oct 14, 2014, 05:27pm

10-14-14  03:52pm - 3722 days #13
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Originally Posted by Parsnip:


For that they have to take everything thrown at them, with a queue of guys with jacked-up boners doing scene after scene, 20-30 minutes to shoot each. If the pain gets too bad they just have to stick an anaesthetic in their ass and carry on - no finish, no pay.


Couldn't see myself doing that. Despite my support for Kink.com and the likes here, that wouldn't be my style. I would definitely go for artistic scenes, mostly solo girl with some girl on girl, and some kinky stuff mixed in, but nothing that requires rectal anesthetics. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

10-13-14  02:23pm - 3723 days #7
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Let me first say that if you decide that your wife will appear on screen than please do not use mask or any other method to hide her face. I don't think I'm alone in saying that a porn scene where you do not see the performers face is not worth watching.


Yeah, you're probably right about this. That's why the idea would be to hire talent. It's more as a side note that I mentioned this stuff with my wife. She would never want to show her face, and I would not push her. Although she may be my biggest inspiration, and the reason why I could see myself forking over $10,000+ for camera, lenses, lighting, etc, our shoots will have to stay private. There won't be much commercial potential in anything done behind a mask, so if we wanted to share them they would be free or bonus shoots.

Originally Posted by pat362:


Second most important question you must ask yourself is. How much money can you afford to lose? If you do not have at least $10,000 to $30,000 that you can live without than don't read any of the other questions.


I comfortably spent over $5,000 just on consuming porn over the past year. If you read my posts, I mentioned that I purchased copies of some sites that I missed out on directly from the webmasters, and this cost real money in a few cases. I think some of the numbers you quote are still on the low end relative to even a medium scale operation, but if things keep going well in my line of work, it will not be a problem in a few years.

Originally Posted by pat362:


Do you live in or around Los Angeles or possibly near Miami?


My wife loves LA, so we visit quite a bit. If I ever did anything, I think the plan would be to get it done during a trip to LA and keep it discreet. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Oct 13, 2014, 02:29pm

10-12-14  06:03pm - 3724 days #3
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Mostly talking about hiring talent. As a side note though, my wife has been doing some shoots for me, and she is an ex-model although she never did any porn. If we ever made any of our shoots public, it would be along the lines of cheatingxxxwife.com and kinkyhousewife.net (both closed) where the model always kept her face hidden in a Mardi Gras mask. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

10-12-14  04:54pm - 3724 days Original Post - #1
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This is a question for the professionals here. How realistic is it to think that work producing porn could be done without friends and extended family knowing? This has been a fantasy of mine, and I'm sure it's a common one, but I'm getting to a point in life where the means to make this happen will be available soon. My wife isn't the issue. She loves porn too, and she runs a couple of non-adult related e-businesses. The issue would be our parents, our kids when we eventually have them, and our mainstream connections in our lines of work.

My guess is that it would be pretty hard to keep it quiet. Any other thoughts? Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

10-07-14  06:05pm - 3729 days #8
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I don't edit picture sets anymore, although I used to. HD space just isn't limited the way it once was, although my time now is. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

10-06-14  03:46pm - 3730 days #2
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Not exactly what you are looking for, but here you can find the top chinese porn search keywords.

http://www.pornmd.com/sex-search Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

10-01-14  04:30pm - 3735 days #55
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Working 80-120 hours/week has kept me too busy to post much lately, or to surf for porn unfortunately. Anyway, of all the bad porn related posts on EBW, I thought some of these were actually funny:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/84299055/ Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

09-07-14  04:16pm - 3759 days #2
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Usenet is mostly pirated stuff, and in the year 2014, who still goes there anyway? There are still some amateurs who upload their pics and videos there, but why they don't go for any number of the free image and video hosting sites available today is a mystery to me. Usenet makes me a little nervous when it comes to porn, due to their ongoing history of hosting the type of content I would not even want to accidentally stumble across. If Usenet was once the wild west, it is now mostly a ghost town. It amazes me that people still post stuff there, but they do. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

08-22-14  07:08pm - 3775 days #27
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Glad you are still going strong! Needless to say, AW was amazing in the 2000's, and is still amazing now. While the overall industry seems to have hit a slow patch recently, it's great to see sites like AW that are bucking the trend. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Aug 22, 2014, 07:17pm

08-19-14  04:19pm - 3778 days #23
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bodyparts.biz



This the site that I regret missing the most. It hurt all the more that I was in touch with the photographer after closing, yet she wouldn't sell anything for personal use, not even for an over the top amount of cash.

Check out her landing page now: http://bodyparts.biz

Her domain name is expired, but the server is still running: http://199.59.95.236

Her old blog is still here on her server with her old free samples, if you missed out, and you want just a taste: http://199.59.95.236/wp/

I have more to say about this site, but I am too busy tonight. It is the one that got away though, and I regret it a lot. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Aug 19, 2014, 04:29pm

08-10-14  05:56pm - 3787 days #22
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Thanks again lk2fireone for starting this thread, it hits close to the heart of why I collect porn.

I think that we are in a golden age of porn of historic proportions. Mainstream porn seems to have had its first golden age in the 70's and 80's, but this right now is really the first golden age porn having to do with my favorite genre. It's never come into the mainstream like this before in such a great quantity. It's easy to take it all for granted and because of that, so many consumers and producers alike don't put a lot of effort into preserving older content. I think this is a mistake, but it will only be widely realized years down the road.

Check out this exhibit on lost art: http://galleryoflostart.com/

Also check out this article on lost films: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_film

And this quote from the article:

The largest cause of silent film loss was intentional destruction, as silent films were perceived as having little or no commercial value after the end of the silent era by 1930. Film preservationist Robert A. Harris has said, "Most of the early films did not survive because of wholesale junking by the studios. There was no thought of ever saving these films. They simply needed vault space and the materials were expensive to house."


Aren't the parallels to older porn striking? Much porn from the 1990's to today will be lost for this reason. There is too much porn out there overall for one person to put a dent in any sort of effort at preservation, so I chose to take a narrow focus. While I like solo girl and hardcore as much as the next guy, I chose to build a collection of epic proportions around my absolute favorite niche - pee fetish porn - a niche that has recently come to explode like never before in history. My goal is simple - to download all pee fetish porn online. I am at the half way point right now, having all pee fetish porn from hundreds of sites after hitting the largest ones first, and there is no stopping now. The greatest satisfaction for me is not just when I add an additional site to my collection, but when I recover one that has closed, or when I get to a good site before the lights go out.

So what will eventually happen with my collection? I will ensure that it lives on in some way or another, but I'm still only 30, so that is a long ways away.

As for the sites that have been missed, some may yet be recovered, while others will be near totally lost. There are some absolutely amazing ones that have closed, and they will never be seen in entirety again. I look at these photos and videos, and I see everything from snapshots and point-and-shoot camera work, to the work of talented artists who have gone off the beaten path into porn, and failed commercially.

Some of the partial copies of lost sites in my collection are so stunning, yet so irrevocably lost, that they are somewhat painful to look at even years after the fact. I have been thinking lately that, while I cannot recover these sites, I can take inspiration from them and start my own. If things keep going as planned, I will have the resources for a professional operation in a matter of years. The biggest obstacle will be convincing my wife. I mean, she loves porn, and she does run a few non-adult websites, but still. Let's just say we're working on it. I feel so strongly about porn, as you guys know, that I am increasingly feeling that this is something that I need to do. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Aug 10, 2014, 06:19pm

08-10-14  07:37am - 3787 days #20
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Teenrotica.com



I warned months ago when this site was going down the tubes that it will be closed soon, and now it has happened. Hopefully, those of you who wanted to see this site had your chance. I downloaded all of their peeing content, but didn't have the time to get a full copy of the entire site.

The scenes that I have feature European models including Aiden, Cameron, Conny, Diana, Evelyn, Fiona, Karyna, Ketty, Klarys, Pavla Lee, Rachel Evans, Sharka Blue, and Winnie. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Aug 10, 2014, 01:00pm (LPee23: Image brought into compliance with guidelines) Edited by Staff on Aug 10, 2014, 07:54am (Khan: image removed)

08-09-14  06:13pm - 3788 days #19
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I've been watching porn online since 1996, but I only joined PU recently.

The owner of Xisty.com went by the name "Fred." In addition to running his own studio, he licensed content out to others. The ATK photosets credited to "Fred" were his work. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

08-08-14  02:18pm - 3789 days #17
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Are those photosets now lost to us if we haven't download them to our hard drives?


Just a few more words of hope here. You never know when you will finally come across something that you thought was lost. I mentioned that I was recently lucky enough to get in touch with a webmaster whose site was put out of business by its payment processor for violating its content guidelines. She was kind enough to allow me to purchase whatever photosets I was interested in, and I just finished downloading them today. This includes content from her site as well as unreleased stuff. Not only that, but I learned that she kept the content from another of her sites that closed in 2008. I remembered that site closing, and it was one that I had given up hope on years ago. I'd say which sites I am referring to, but I'm not sure if the webmaster would appreciate me doing that. If anyone here is really dying for rare photos featuring women peeing, then PM me, and I'll point you in the right direction. The bottom line is, if you missed out on something, don't give up. With persistence you may still be able to find it plus much more. I will definitely appreciate these photos so much more, just due to the chain of events that brought them to me.

Having this thread will allow us to compare notes and expand our searches, thereby increasing our odds of success in looking for whatever it is we missed out on. Happy hunting everyone! Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Aug 08, 2014, 02:41pm (LPee23: corrected typo)

08-05-14  03:20pm - 3792 days #27
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Hahaha lucky you! Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

08-05-14  01:46am - 3792 days #25
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Nice call! Here's one from digitaldesire.com. Any takers on this one?

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08-04-14  05:14pm - 3793 days #23
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This is another one from houseoftaboo.com if that jogs anyone's memory... Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

08-03-14  07:41am - 3794 days #22
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Here's another one, does anyone recognize her?

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08-03-14  07:19am - 3794 days #13
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Xisty.com

Does anyone remember that site? It features models such as Brittney, Candy, Peaches, Susanna Spears, etc. It opened in 2006 and closed in 2009. Now just a handful of their pics and videos can be found online. It's too bad because these are some high profile models that people like to collect, but now this portion of their careers looks like it is lost.

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08-02-14  10:23am - 3795 days #12
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I know, I bought one of her clips there, but she hardly has any of her photosets available. I shot her an email to ask about it, but haven't heard anything back yet... Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

08-02-14  09:06am - 3795 days #10
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I think this type of thread is useful, because it helps everyone to avoid inadvertently deleting irreplaceable content when cleaning up our collections.

Here are a few more that I already mentioned in other threads.

Clara-G.com
TotallyAnnette.com
JustineJoli.com Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

07-31-14  04:39pm - 3797 days #2
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Originally Posted by Il2fireone:

Should PU add a thread labelled RIP for good porn sites that have bit the dust?


I think this is a great idea. Nothing is more frustrating than when you visit a site, finally determined to join, and find that it has closed. I once started a similar thread on a porn forum focused just on pee, and sadly it has been one of the most active threads for over a year and going strong. I was really curious to see a similar thread on porn overall, so hopefully this thread takes off too.

Originally Posted by Il2fireone:

Are those photosets now lost to us if we haven't download them to our hard drives?


Some are lost, others are not. I have reached out to many webmasters to purchase old content. From my own experience, any number of things can happen. Some webmasters enjoy porn as much as we do and they are likely to keep copies of their sites long after they close. Some may still sell it for the right price, others have given it away for free out of generosity, while others can't be bothered to take the time for any price. Just today, I am finalizing a deal to acquire all peeing photos from a site that was forced to close by it's billing company last January for featuring "extreme" content. I was expecting to pay more, but the webmaster is asking just a little over the price of a membership.

Sometimes webmasters keep the content, but it just sits around collecting dust. One of my best finds was an entire site with 60,000 pics and videos that I purchased 8 years after its closing. The webmaster had to open up an old storage unit, dig out a PC from 2005, and swap the hard drive into a new system in order to get the content. He obviously didn't put in any effort to preserve the content, but it ended up getting kept by chance. If I had waited until he decided to empty out the unit, that PC from 2005 that wouldn't boot would almost certainly have gone in the trash, along with what was probably the only remaining full copy of that site.

I know one model/webmaster who has given me a lot of amazing content from her old sites for free. She is an example of a webmaster who actually likes porn a lot, so she tried to keep everything. She still has everything from her sites featuring other models. She lost her copy of her original site featuring herself to a hard drive crash though, and she didn't have a backup copy.

Over time, I think it's safe to assume that the original copies of most closed sites will be lost due to neglect. Sometimes, the content is deleted at the time the site closes. I can think of a few sites that deleted their content because their contractual agreements with their models were non-transferable. It can't be found anywhere now, and it is probably gone for good. For some webmasters, porn is business, and as soon as the content is no longer making money online, it goes in the trash.

I think old internet porn is overall being badly preserved. It's just so easy to delete. It's common to assume that there are hundreds of people out there saving every bit of online porn, so deleting it is guilt free for most.

Here's my first contribution to this thread. Does anyone remember AG-Angels.net? It was a Greek site that featured solo girl, bg, and pee. I was lucky to download an entire copy of the site as a member right before it closed. Lower resolution versions of some of the photosets are still available on Athens-Girls.com, but most of them haven't been seen anywhere online for years. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

07-27-14  09:28am - 3801 days #3
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I am so glad that the UK people voted by click of the mouse and opted out of this filter. With less than 10% opting in, this filter looks like another multi-million dollar embarrassment. No politician wants a project like that on their hands, so hopefully this will make them think twice before attempting similar projects elsewhere. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

07-25-14  08:11pm - 3802 days #21
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Sorry to hear that she passed away. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

07-25-14  02:58pm - 3803 days #19
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Here's another model, this time from realitykings.com. Her boob job isn't the best, but she can squirt pretty hard. In this pic, her "squirt" came out a bit yellow...

Anyone recognize her?

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07-17-14  03:17pm - 3811 days #18
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


Here's another one from houseoftaboo.com if anyone is up to the challenge.




Well, looks like I figured this one out on my own. She goes by Miki as well as some other names.

See: http://eurobabeindex.com/modules/search.py?text=miki&submit.x=0&submit.y=0 Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

07-06-14  04:02pm - 3822 days #4
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Finally, we can all agree on something. 2014 has been a very bad year for porn so far.

While I've stood up in favor of the more extreme stuff on the principle of freedom of artistic expression, the classier stuff has always been my favorite. I really love elegant, artistic shoots done well.

Porn just isn't catering to my tastes that much anymore. Within my favorite nice, peeing porn, I have in my collection content from over 600 sites, almost half of which are closed now. Of the sites that remain, fewer than a third are still updating, and more than half have removed at least some older content or just fallen into disrepair. This year, pee sites have been closing at the same rate they once opened during their proliferation in the early 2000's. Only one has opened so far this year, powerpiss.com, and I joined today and downloaded all their content, which is just 35 videos, in less than 10 min. It's not even really new content, it's just videos from joyangeles.com that they moved to another site.

I guess porn goes through cycles of boom and bust just like every other industry, and this year has been a bust of epic proportions. Well, if it had to happen, I guess this year is better than most others, because my work is eating up almost all of my time now. I think it will turn around eventually, and hopefully I'll have a bit more time on my hands whenever it does. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

07-05-14  12:25pm - 3823 days #36
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It is both the tubes and the pirate forums that are hurting the industry. Porn sites that track and analyze their users surfing patterns generally seem to report that the average user spends 20 minutes surfing for porn before moving on to other things. Most potential customers fall into this category, and they want streaming video and quick gratification.

Then there are the more dedicated surfers for porn. These are the users who surf for hours on end and are more likely to build up large collections. These are the people who are more likely to put in the time to find forums, register, and wait for the downloads.

I think both tubes and free forums are poaching customers from paysites. Tubes might be poaching a greater number of customers, but the forums are probably poaching a more dedicated crowd. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

07-05-14  09:13am - 3823 days #17
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^Not even back then. The porn made in the 80's was so much better than most of the stuff made after the 80's that it's not even funny. There are so few good porn scenes made today that like you I'm not even joining sites that want me for a member for 5$. I keep getting these offers and I can't be bothered to part ways with less money than I spend on coffee during one week.


I haven't seen a single new porn site that interested me open all year. There are some established players that are still putting out good stuff, but there have never been so few quality new ones. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-25-14  04:57pm - 3833 days #25
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


Oh sure, we've been there before; without a catalyzing incident, of sorts, we audited our records and came up short for a handful of shoots. We'd certainly taken the records, but had somehow misplaced them. After exhaustive searching, we came up empty. The only thing left to do was to delete the perfectly legal content from our servers.


If you have a very large number of models, it requires effort on a consistent basis over the years to avoid losing a small number of records. One brief lapse is all it takes, and without self-auditing, you would never know. This is why X-Art.com could be in trouble, as I said in the Malibu Media thread, because it looks like their 2257 records are likely to get dragged into court soon. It's a tough bar to meet when one accidental slip up that results in a single lost record can result in criminal charges. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-24-14  05:53pm - 3834 days #17
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Originally Posted by biker:


Justine Jolie is one of my favorites. I've got a few DVD's she is prominent in. In everyone, her hair is a different shade of red.


I am all about Justine Joli right now. She is definitely a new favorite of mine. I can't believe that her solo girl site closed just 2 months ago, and I missed it. Damn. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-24-14  05:42pm - 3834 days #21
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This discussion just took an interesting turn. I agree that the major effect of 2257 records nowadays is providing assurance to consumers that what they are purchasing is legitimate.

I don't think the FBI has raided anyone for 2257 records, but I think the Bush era Department of Justice did initiate a round of inspections in 2006. I'm not sure if they convicted anyone, but I think it did lead a lot of webmasters to go over their records, realize that many were incomplete, and self-censor by deleting a lot of legal content that just wasn't properly documented. I know first hand of a webmaster who purchased a European site and couldn't use a portion of their content because their 2257 records were incomplete.

I like to think that all sites keep good 2257 documents, but in reality, think about the potential for disorganized webmasters to lose track. We all know a bunch of sites that look like they haven't been updated since 2005, are riddled with errors, and their webmasters are impossible to reach. Do you think sites like this really have meticulous records? Somehow, I doubt it.

I also have heard of a site with truly illegal content that claimed to have valid 2257 documents. The owner was arrested, I think in Russia back around 2006. This particular site was a black mark on good operations everywhere, and it deserves to be forgotten. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Jun 24, 2014, 05:46pm

06-22-14  07:41pm - 3835 days #15
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Here's another one from houseoftaboo.com if anyone is up to the challenge.

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06-22-14  06:48pm - 3836 days #14
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Right you are Drooler! I really wonder what's been going on with her lately . She used to be on houseoftaboo.com, now she's not. She used to have a solo girl site, now she's just got a clips4sale.com store. Anyway, she's done some amazing stuff in her career for sure. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-22-14  05:38pm - 3836 days #12
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You are right on Drooler, again! I admit that I clicked right past her on my own search, because I did not recognize her without the makeup. This is a fun thread, and you guys seem to like it so far, so I'm going to keep going with it for now. Contributions from others would be welcome too!

Anyone recognize this model? She was one of the earliest on houseoftaboo.com.


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06-22-14  06:24am - 3836 days #10
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


This is fun. It reminds me of quizzes I saw once in a porn mag I looked at way back in the mid-1980's, with titles like "Name That Cocksucker" and "Name that Cunt Lappee." But this is easier for reasons that are clear enough on face value.


Thanks Drooler and turboshaft. You guys made it look easy. I just went through my collection and identified a few more, and it is fun. Here's another hottie with big natural tits that totally stumped me.

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06-20-14  05:55pm - 3838 days #6
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Wow, you are so right Drooler, it is Olivia York, and she is beautiful!

Edit: Looks like EBI needs to add houseoftaboo.com to the list. Also, to DDF's credit, they still have Olivia York's pee scene on houseoftaboo.com. Looks like I just overlooked it!

While we're on a roll here, here's another unknown model from DDF.

Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Jun 20, 2014, 06:24pm (LPee23: Read you EBI link and wanted to comment on it.)

06-19-14  05:13pm - 3839 days #4
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Here's another model from an old shoot from DDF not on their site anymore.



Sorry I don't have a better shot of her face, but this is all that I have to work with. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-19-14  05:04pm - 3839 days #3
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"I've been trying to figure out who this model is for a while. She's most likely a European model and the shoot is from DDF from the early 2000's. Her shoots have been removed, and even their support can't remember who she was now."

Wow, I just had a moment of clarity, and I identified her myself. This is one of Sandy's early shoots! She has been so prolific, I can't believe I didn't recognize her sooner.

DDF still has a bunch of Sandy's stuff online, so now I'm going to ask if they can bring this shoot back, because it was one of her best. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-19-14  10:22am - 3839 days Original Post - #1
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There have been a number of different threads by people trying to tap the vast porn knowledge of the PU regulars and identify a particular model. I was hoping to get a single thread going for this type of thing.

I've been trying to figure out who this model is for a while. She's most likely a European model and the shoot is from DDF from the early 2000's. Her shoots have been removed, and even their support can't remember who she was now.

I hope this type of post isn't violating any PU rules by showing this pic, but if it is, then of course feel free to delete it Khan. My only reason for showing the pic is to help with identifying the model, not to share it with others. That is why I have cropped it, reduced the size, and paint brushed over her tits and pussy, so that it can really serve for identification purposes only.

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06-19-14  08:12am - 3839 days #3
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Here are a few femdom sites if that's what you are looking for.

theenglishmansion.com
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slaveclub.com
whippedass.com
femdom-berlin.com
lesbian-femdom.com Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-18-14  03:45pm - 3840 days #4
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I don't get anything out of it, prolapse is not my thing, and of course it's a shame any time a woman is subjected to an injury on account of porn.

Just to be fair though, prolapse can result from complications of pregnancy too, not just porn. If someone enjoys that type of thing and their interest makes a woman feel a little better about herself, then of course it is not wrong, and I won't judge people who get off on that.

Here's the other catch. Prolapse caused by porn doesn't always result from extreme insertions, it can result from nothing more than lots of anal over the years. The only way to avoid it entirely would be to ban anal, and I don't think anyone is ready for that.

I agree with the sentiment of all the posts here, that women should never be injured on account of porn. In fact, I couldn't agree more. We should still be careful about judging those who enjoy prolapse or whatever. Others are out there just as adamant to judge us for enjoying porn in the first place.

I draw a hard line at consent. If it's between consenting adults who know and understand the risks, then I have no problem with it appearing in porn. I also personally wouldn't want to see a performer injured in any way.

By the way, I'm a member at Kink right now too, although I go for the softer stuff there, mostly pissing.com and the squirting scenes on fuckingmachines.com. Not into the extreme insertions or anything too sadistic. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, so I sleep just fine at night. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Jun 18, 2014, 03:53pm

06-15-14  08:55am - 3843 days #6
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


I had a membership years ago for a short time. I didn't feel terribly lucky, to be honest.


I'm checking them out now. They do have some shoots that are non-exclusive, many overlapping with ClubSupreme.com as far as I can tell. Since ClubSupreme.com has been closed for years, I guess that makes them exclusive now? Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-15-14  07:23am - 3843 days #11
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I remember when Steve Jobs said, "Folks who want porn can buy an android phone." I took his advice and did buy an android, and I am very happy with my S4 mini right now. I don't even use porn apps or watch porn on my S4 mini, but it's the principle of it. When you're looking at spending $400 on a smartphone, and iPhones and Androids are both very good, I'd rather spend my money with a company that is committed to openness.

Unfortunately, today's post-IPO corporate Google has lost touch with one of it's core defining principles - openness. Their biggest selling point used to be that they would provide you the absolute best search results, gmail, and other services for free, in exchange for some ads that are well targeted to what you may actually want. Now, porn is harder to find with their new algorithms, and their ads can't promote porn even if users want it. Google used to be about a tradeoff of privacy for the best free services and search. Now they're about trading ever more privacy for ever crappier free services. Eventually users will get fed up and leave. Like biker, I'm at that point myself. Never thought I'd say it, but it looks like Bing is my new Google. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-12-14  07:12pm - 3846 days #3
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Looks like this fortunately was just a temporary thing, because EbinaModels.com is now back. Always a welcome surprise to see a site come back online. I will be checking them out shortly! Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-11-14  04:28pm - 3847 days #8
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It looks like X-Art.com may have just stepped on a huge landmine. Apparently, a defendant's lawyer accused X-Art of having incomplete 2257 documents and made the argument that the court can't defend the copyrights of a company that might be violating the law in providing content. It's a preliminary ruling, but the judge seems to be willing to allow the defendant's lawyer to inspect all of the 2257 documents in order to support or refute these claims. I think X-Art is a legitimate company, but with over 200 models, even 99% complete 2257 documentation is not enough to avoid a conviction.

It's a risky defense though, because if one of the models is proven to be underage and the defendant downloaded her content, then he is going to prison too.

See the article here: http://www.xbiz.com/news/web/180319 Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

06-11-14  04:09pm - 3847 days #3
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"We ask that you make any necessary changes to your ads and sites to comply so that your campaigns can continue to run."

That last line is funny in a cynical way. Translation: please stop advertising porn and remove it from your sites so that you can sill keep spending your money on us.

Google really sucks for caving in to pressure from Morality in Media on this one. Is Google done standing up for freedom of expression? Will we never again see a naked CGI Larry Page talking about tentacle porn (see article below). Seriously, please read this article, it is hilarious.

http://www.wired.com/2013/05/on-google-island/ Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

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