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09-02-13  06:57pm - 4129 days #3
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I have certain rules in regards to porn sites that have served me well over time. This site is guilty of breaking a few of them and therefore I would not recommend you join because you will probably feel cheated.

Here are the infractions in no particular order.

1-The site does not show what is inside the members area. That is usually a good sign that whatever is inside is not worth it. Otherwise they would want to advertise it to potential customers.

2-The site does not use the proper name of the performers.
That is never an issue with European sites because they are for the most part all guilty of this but it's deadly when talking about a North American one. Now I can't be 100% sure that Alexa is Brooklyn Lee but I am quite certain that Jessica is really Jessie Andrews. Any site would want to use the correct names of these women because they were very popular performers so you would want their fans to be able to find these scenes.

3-This is an off-shoot of number 2 since the two women I mentioned above who are on the only preview page are now retired performers. In the case of Jessie it's being quite a long time so why would her scene be the one on that page.
By default that makes me think the scene is actually quite old and therefore the site is really dead and they are trying to make money using deceptive business practices.

4-Only one page of preview is a dead giveaway that you will be cheated out of your money.

5-The join price is nearly 30$ and that is too high for this type of site. This one is not necessarily an issue on many sites but I often find that it applies quite well to crappy sites who try to get bigger amounts of money from the few people who get taken in by their flashy looking pics. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-02-13  08:08am - 4129 days #19
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Originally Posted by graymane:


It makes me happy to know I make people around here laugh .....that would surely make My cup runneth over


I find that my day is not complete if I haven't laughed at least once and multiple times makes for a great day. Any person that can make me laugh gets top marks in my book. I'm glad you are part of this forum and hope that you will remain one for years to come. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-02-13  08:06am - 4129 days #18
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^In this case I think the birthday girl would probably have to be naked and in a vulnerable position for the anal part to take place. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-01-13  04:54pm - 4130 days #15
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^You always make me laugh with your post. You sir are an amazing gentlemen without equals. Now there are plenty of anal movies/sites that contain less than thrilled girls getting screwed in the ass but I don't consider those to be surprise anal because either the title is an anal themed one or the girl knows what is about to happen. Let's try Anal is full of girls that have a surprise look on their face when they are getting fu..ed in the ass but that has more to do with acting or because they aren't used to having a dick in their ass. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-01-13  10:12am - 4130 days #13
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Originally Posted by graymane:


My gut feeling, (and this is the good news) video offering this scenario are as plentiful as bottled Budwieser ... you just need to know to find it.



Strange you say that because I would think that the number would be rather quite small. I know of maybe one or two sites that have a sort of similar types of content but they are all Eastern European so no dialogue to go with the scene and the acting is not very good it's hard to believe they aren't pretending to be surprised. The only scenes I can remember where the girl pretends to be surprised by the anal is in JM Production Anal Full Nelson 3 where Leah Luv does an amazing job of looking and acting surprised when Jay Ashley fucks her in the ass and in Dr Probes Lab of Perversion where Chelsie Rae also does an amazing job of looking surprised when her medical exam turns into an all out anal fuckfest. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-29-13  02:58pm - 4133 days #2
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


A source said, "Kim Jong-un has been viciously eliminating anyone who he deems a challenge to his authority." The executions "show that he is fixated on consolidating his leadership."


If he's killing everyone that he deems a challenge to his authority then there soon won't be many people left alive in North Korea because I think that pretty much describes every person in NK. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-26-13  04:40pm - 4136 days #35
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


And condoms definitely have their limitations in porn,


For sure but no condom as no limitation when it comes to infection. I'm pro-condom for one single reason and it's that I don't want to read about all the rampant std's in the industry that might have been prevented if condoms had been used. Of course accidents will happen after condoms are made mandatory and people will still get infected but at least the number of new cases should drop. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-25-13  06:29pm - 4137 days #40
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I wasn't aware of your site so I took a look at it so that I'd have a better idea of what to say and what not to say.
Now the following are in regards to your site in particular and I'll add some general info afterwards.

1-Not sure if it's my computer only but your pages are too big for my screen and I have to scroll left and right or up and down to see everything's on the page. That is quite annoying so that would be something that could use fixing.

2-I know the site is called "see me tease" so that might be obvious what is inside the members section but it would be nice if there was a mission statement.

3-The site design is rather primitive with very little info available on the preview section and that might make many people nervous and therefore make them avoid joining simply because of that.

4-On the join page there is a mention that the 19.95$ join price also includes a 3 day trial membership for 2.95$ so that new members can cancel at no extra cost. Does that mean that someone who bought a 19.95$ membership can cancel after 2 days and get refunded the difference between the 2 amounts?

5-A follow up to the above inquiry. Does it mean that a current 3 day trial is in fact a full access 3 day trial membership that rebills at 19.95$ or is it really a partial access?

6-There appears to only be 16 models on the site but the tiny pic at the bottom of the join page makes it look like there might be a lot more inside the members area. which is the correct info?


Now to answer some of your questions.

1-Content is the most important thing to me because I would still feel cheated if I paid only a dollar for crappy stuff.

2-Second most important thing is quality of the product. I don't need HD content but it has to be at least of a decent resolution, good camera angles and not be broken into multiple parts.

3-Ease of finding the content is the third most important thing because I rarely have only one active membership so wasting an hour to find a couple of vids on a site will definitely annoy me and may make me quit trying long before I find everything I care to.

4-If a site has already at least 50 or more vids (100 would be better) then I expect nothing less than one new scene per week and it must always be updated on the same day each time.

5-Price is not really an issue for me but the content must warrant it or I won't join. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-25-13  05:46pm - 4137 days #32
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The only solution, and it's by no means a foolproof one, is condoms for all penetration porn and a test done every two weeks for every known STD as well as HEP A, B & C. The industry should also ban all crossover performers as this is adding an unsafe element to what is already a dangerous situation. Otherwise the industry is simply going to shutdown from lack of new performers and the loss of all the established ones.

In case some of you don't visit the ADT forum then here is what an established director had to say about the current state of the porn industry. He answered a question another posted asked him in regards to spikers. These are the guys who can't get hard without using an injection in their penis.

[i]"Tim, what percentage of males in the industry would you guess are spikers?"[/i]

nowadays I'd say 50%... at least 30%. and that as everything to do w/who's casting/producing the content. you no longer have that many actual pornographers making the scenes/movies anymore, and female production/casting managers don't care if the guys are spiking or crossovers because they were never in the trenches next to these dudes.

it all starts at the top of EACH company, so much of the current idiocy in XXX could be done away with if there were still dyed in the wool/blue-blooded xxx people calling the shots. but, most/almost all have been put out by the rise of the online companies and how they do business. and I'm not even talking about the Tube-sites, just the brand(s) of online porno that destroyed the 'star machine'. w/less dvd work to go around, and online producers only using gals once/twice at most, you have entire crops of female talent that show up and have NOTHING to do after 3-5 weeks in. plus, the handful of gigs they got were at 1k-$1200 just for some vanilla 1 on 1, so now they don't want to put their shoes on for less than a 1000 dollars. expectations are set way too high and then the phone stops ringing. escorting starts paying the rent and now you have the hooker brigade in full force taking the odd xxx scene here and there to stay/feel current.
once someone commits to sex work they ain't gonna give it up. the era of porn 'stars' is pretty much dead and gone. the websites don't need stars to make their $$$, they just need updates for their branded web page, regardless of who fits the bill/slot. the spikers get NO scrutiny anymore because of these loser shooters working for corporate on a daily sched that gets met, or they get replaced by some dude off of craigslist w/a 5d mark III... etc, etc, etc,...

sorry about the rant, maybe I'm being a bit too open about what's going on here in xxx,...but I don't have an agenda other than wanting to keep me & Mike in the game for as long as we wanna be here. still, the fans should have a more honest/gritty perspective of what's actually happening these days,... thanks for the fanfare everyone, we totally appreciate it. lates, Von S.
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08-24-13  11:11am - 4138 days #3
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You girlfriend clearly has taste is she thinks vintage porn is a good place to find authentic and often spontaneous porn. The bad news is that there are very few sites that actually carry vintage porn. She can find plenty of it on streaming sites like AEBN and Hot Movies but the streaming cost is not cheap and quality varies form movie to movie.
If she wants to download the movies then there are a couple of sites like The Classic Porn See my recent review. This one is also not cheap but you at least get to keep all the movies. The quality also varies a lot but be prepared to the reality that mediocre is probably the best you'll get and don't be surprised if the porn is not in English on some of the movies. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-24-13  11:00am - 4138 days #29
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^This of course means that many sites that were borderline on their shooting schedule may run out of content before they start to shoot more porn since there's now a moratorium
on new porn being shot.

The porn industry in America is so fucked up that I don't know where it's going to wind up. You have had two male performers that worked when they should not have in the last 18 months and now you have at least one HIV+ performer.
Crossover male performers are rampant so that what was once a gay only performer is now a gay and hetero performer and no one and I mean no one as a problem with that. Girls shoot porn one day and then spend a few days escorting and then they start the process all over. All the while having a test that is not valid anymore since the test was never meant to be used except by people that only did porn. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-23-13  05:53pm - 4139 days #27
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It's official. Cameron Bay is HIV+. I hope that she is the only one because she might very not be. My prayers go with her on what is now a life altering event. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-22-13  06:25pm - 4140 days #2
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The first thing you need to know is that this site doesn't belong to RK because Manwin (the people who own Brazzer)bought the entire RK network of sites a while back. That by itself is neither good or bad but here are the list of bad news.

1-The preview section is complete crap so that's never a good sign and by default makes it impossible to verify many different things that are pretty essential when choosing a site.
2-Because the preview is crap then no way of verifying how much content there is on the site but don't believe that there are 96 pages worth of it because that is a lie on their part. Just try clicking on a couple of the pages and you'll notice the number never changes from page one and the content on the first page keeps reappearing on the subsequent pages.
3-Again because the preview is crap then no way to know when they update(if they still do) and no way of knowing how old the content is.
4-No way of knowing if the content is exclusive but my gut feeling is that it isn't.
5-This one is rather an important one to me and maybe it is to you so be warned that this is a streaming only site. There is no way of downloading the content.

P.S: If you have 20$ that you don't mind sacrificing then you can try this site but I wouldn't pay a dollar for it myself. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-22-13  06:08pm - 4140 days #26
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


The reality is 18 year old girls barely know what sex is let alone HEP-C and HIV and what causes it.


I agree with you about girls that are 18 and I'd even say that you can go as far as 20 but Cameron is by no means an 18 year old girl. We are talking about a woman that is at the very least 26 years old since she spent a year and a half in jail in 2007 so she had to be at least 18 at the time. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-22-13  03:36am - 4140 days #21
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^Yes she tweeted that she was glad that she quit before the most recent HIV scare happened and the HIV story is also true because they now have a name attached to the story. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-21-13  06:16pm - 4141 days #19
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Man I was really not expecting to read this today but we have now gone from Hep C to full on HIV and I don't think we are talking about possible but actual verified infected
performers (that's 2 for those curious). The info is new so I'm sure details are going to be added as the days go by but this may finally be the nail in the industries coffin.

If not then it will put a complete stop on production for the immediate future.

http://www.mikesouth.com/

P.S: This one is not exactly related but I know that she was a popular performer with many of our members. Lexi Belle is now retired. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-20-13  06:27pm - 4142 days #28
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I expected to see him disabled long before this, gm!


He must enjoy getting deactivated because the same thing happened to him on the ADT thread. At least wrote full sentences on that forum. I would have tried to reply to one of his comments but I had no idea what he was saying. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-20-13  06:22pm - 4142 days #1182
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Originally Posted by messmer:


P.S. Just came back from Rotten Tomatoes and this is what I read in the very first review I looked at: "If you￿re here for some Greengrassian shakey-cam action and some quick-thinking hand-to-hand combat however, you won￿t be disappointed."

PASS!!!!


I may not always agree with some of the reviews on RT but I like that you get many different perspectives on a movie that it generates a kind of overall consensus. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-19-13  04:14pm - 4143 days #6
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^Must be a question of age because I'm thinking the exact same thing as you. I just can't help but feel that there's a gimmick in there somewhere. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-19-13  04:10pm - 4143 days #6
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Originally Posted by messmer:


If that is the reality, Pat, then I am done with hardcore porn for good! I'm not going to be a willing collaborator to exploitation. Man,


Porn is for lack of a better term an industry that is based on sex. The main difference between a porn performer and a prostitute/escort is that the women who do porn do not get paid for the sex act itself but the right to show it. Of course the sex act has a monetary value which is based on the type of scene, the popularity of the performer and the rarity of the scene. The girl gets more money if she has never done something or does it on the rare side of things and she also gets more money if she is very popular. A prostitute/escort probably gets paid using some of the same criteria's.

Both industries have one thing in common and it's the relationship between the porn performer/prostitute and her manager/boyfriend/suitcase pimp. The guys enable these women in doing porn/prostitution and they benefit from these enterprises but I know I exaggerated when I said that they were slaves to these guys because the women can probably quit anytime they want to and they keep the vast majority of the money they make. It's just that these guys are never going to try make these women stop doing what they do. In large part because they need the money the women earn for them. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-18-13  12:11pm - 4144 days #1178
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^I have no clue because I never watched it. I know that director is not the same as the other movies so that's a plus. He was the writer for the other movie so that could be a plus as well. I recommend you read a couple of the negative reviews on Rotten tomatoes as this is where you will read any comments on the shaky cam issue. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-18-13  11:59am - 4144 days #2
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I haven't seen the movie and I probably never will but that has nothing to do with the subject matter or the quality of the finish product and everything to do with the fact that I almost never watch biopic. I'd rather watch a sci/fi movie where we all know it's not real then watch a biopic where we are expected to believe that everything we see is the truth.

There were 4 books written on Linda's life and two of them were pro-porn and two were anti-porn. I believe the people who produced this movie picked one from each group and you get a finish product that is neither pro or anti porn. I checked Rotten Tomatoes and the movie got a 52% rating from reviewers but a measly 38% from general audiences. If I read the info correctly then the overall opinion is that the actors all do a decent to excellent job but that the movie is not very good. The below review is by far my favorite and seems to hit on all the key points.

http://www.reelviews.net/php_review_temp....php?identifier=2652


Originally Posted by turboshaft:



the interesting thing is just how different today's industry is from the Deep Throat era. I read a recent Slate article about how Linda Lovelace wasn't a porn star by today's standards.


Clearly the person who wrote it has no clue what he's talking about because by todays standard. Any girl who does porn is considered a pornstar. That's not my view and that's why you rarely see me call a performer a pornstar. Those that I refer to as pornstars are the ones that have earned the title as opposed to calling everyone a star. That said. Linda has to be called a pornstar less because of her body of work and more because she was one of the first to do porn and to make a name for herself.

Originally Posted by turboshaft:


An interesting quote to take away from that article and to think about with the renewed interest in Lovelace, from performer Sovereign Syre: "It￿s one of the few jobs where women are empowered to be financially and emotionally independent and that terrifies people."


I'm glad she thinks female porn performers are empowered because the reality is quite the opposite. Many of them are slave to their boyfriend/suitcase pimp while others do it to fund their drug and alcohol dependence. Mind you it's not like she does any of the hardcore porn that most of the other girls do since she is a g/g only performer. I wonder if she would have the same opinion if she had to start doing the gonzo b/g porn that most of the other girls have to do.



Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Deep Throat probably approached the mainstream about as close as a legitimately hardcore movie could,


I don't know if you can say that. It's probably the most famous porn movies of all time but there was no such thing as mainstream in the 70's. At least not in the way that we now think of it. Yes the movie was viewed in theaters but that's because the technology was not there to view it anywhere else. As much as the movie began what is now called "The Golden Age" of porn. I don't know if many of us would really know what it was about if it wasn't for the introduction of VHS movies. We can at least credit the movie with one undisputable thing. The movie as forever altered are vernacular by adding the words deep throat to our vocabulary. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-18-13  11:13am - 4144 days #3
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Is this an offer similar to the one Brazzer is offering where you pay a certain amount for lifetime membership but you have to keep at least one active membership or else you lose access to everything? Long live the Brown Coats.

08-18-13  11:05am - 4144 days #16
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The overall look reminds me of the Diesel sites. As such I don't have any issue with the look per say and I reserve judgement on pretty much everything else until after I have seen the final product and more importantly used it.

That was the good news but alas I must now state the bad news. First, far be it for me to tell any company trying to eke out a living in todays porn industry so my comments may be way off but I think I have earned enough respect that I should at least be heard. I don't think my words will in any way change what is about to happen but I'll feel better for having said my peace.

Although these changes look quite nice. I can't help but feel that the current state of the industry is such that all that comes to mind when I think about them is of the people in First Class on the Titanic who decide to paint and remodel their apartment at the same time as the ship is slowly sinking. They will look quite beautiful but this isn't going to save those people from drowning.

Hopefully this is not the case and these changes will help increase traffic which in turn will increase the income brought by the extra traffic. If it doesn't then it's not like you can't say that you didn't try. The simple truth is that there are less new sites coming online all the while more of them are going offline. Worse is that some of the ones going offline were established well reviewed sites that were still producing great porn less than two years ago. Sadly this is the reality and I don't yet see a light at the end of the tunnel.

I, like many of the old guard, am pissed that so much of the time and hard work I put into my reviews will disappear with the changes. I actually understand why they could not be brought forth into the new site because the new design is such that the data is incompatible. I suspect that you could always have had someone do the transfer from one site to the next but the time and headaches involve in doing that is such that I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I still look forward to the new sites and hopefully they will herald a positive change in the porn industry. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-16-13  06:27pm - 4146 days #17
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^&^^ That goes without saying that the type of penetration these women are subjected to is so intense that tearing is all too common. The one that keeps coming to mind is Amee Donovan who left the industry because one her scenes went so bad that she there was some major tearing.

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=Am...r=f/amee-donavan.htm Long live the Brown Coats.

08-16-13  06:21pm - 4146 days #19
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I've never heard of Bonnie Rotten, Pat. What sites does she appear in? Just curious.


Here's her data 18 page. It probably doesn't have all her stuff but it's a decent start.

http://www.data18.com/bonnie_rotten/ Long live the Brown Coats.

08-15-13  06:16pm - 4147 days #7
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I agree with you guys and I wish we'd see more of that but sadly we live in an era when a woman like Bonnie Rotten is considered the epitome of beauty in porn. She has a very beautiful face but you are either a die hard tattoo fan or you are blind if you think the rest of her body is remotely close to beautiful. How can you expect anyone to bother with stripping and teasing when all the studios want to hire her to get fucked in every orifice her body has. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-15-13  03:52pm - 4147 days #14
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Originally Posted by hodayathink:


And Hepatitis C is not an STD. It can be passed by sex in some instances, and you probably shouldn't be performing with, but it is not, by definition, a sexually transmitted disease. To me, calling it an STD would be like calling the flu an STD.


Although you are correct on all front. You are basing your info on your average person who does not have sex with strangers on a regular basis and more importantly has not contacted multiple std's in their life. This last part is why Hep C is more dangerous for porn performers because this is the dark secret that is never spoken about. Most of them have had more than one std in their career and they are therefore more susceptible to catching something like Hep C. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-14-13  03:33am - 4148 days #1176
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^It's not that unusual that you might have forgotten that he has a son since I think the last time you would have seen any indication that he has kids was in the first movie.

I didn't see this one and everything that I read about it told me that I wasn't missing much. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-13-13  06:35pm - 4149 days #8
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^&^^ I really don't know why people don't like condoms in porn but I also think that it's the future of porn. Now if there is anyone that would prefer that there be no condoms in porn then you better get used to the idea that it's that or no porn at all.

This is 2013 when Government can't keep secret projects secret anymore so imagine how hard it's going to be for the porn industry to keep secret the fact that maybe 90% of all the current performers have had at least one STD in their career and that many of them have herpes(something that is still incurable). Most girls will refuse to work with anyone unless there is a condom or they will do like many have recently done and leave the industry. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-13-13  06:27pm - 4149 days #18
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Wouldn't that technically be illegal then since shooting porn outside a few places (California, Florida, NYC) is not cool with the law?


There is nothing technical about it. It's illegal to shoot porn anywhere but California and New Hampshire. Of course that hasn't stopped companies from shooting elsewhere. Florida being one of the more popular locations after Los Angeles. The only problem for those producers is that an hungry DA may one day use them to sharpen his teeth and increase is credenditials.

Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Sounds like Max Hardcore, and the same general thread question applies to him as well: "So where do these models come from? What's in it for them?"


Although I don't like the language he uses. This is only done in the synopsis of the video and never used with the performers themselves. It wouldn't surprise me that he was inspired by Max but at least he doesn't act like Max in his videos. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-12-13  05:19pm - 4150 days #4
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When you thought it couldn't get any worse for the porn industry. There's a high probability that a male performer tested positive for an STD in June of this year. The news is quite fresh so you have to take the following info with a grain of salt but it would appear that he tested positive for Hep C but that the info was never shared with his agent or any of the producers and that he might have worked after the test was done. The original lab simply tagged him as unavailable which can mean many things. I recommend you read the story on the below link as it explains everything. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-11-13  08:19am - 4151 days #123
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To Maintain A Healthy Level Of Insanity


1. At Lunch Time, Sit In Your Parked Car With Sunglasses on
and point a Hair Dryer At Passing Cars..... See If They Slow Down.

2. Page Yourself Over The Intercom. Don't Disguise Your Voice.

3. Every Time Someone Asks You To Do Something, ask If They Want Fries with that.

4. Put Decaf In The Coffee Maker For 3 Weeks .
Once Everyone has Gotten Over Their Caffeine Addictions,
Switch to Espresso.

5. In the Memo Field Of All Your Checks, Write ' For Marijuana.

6. Skip down the hall Rather Than Walk and see how many looks you get.

7. Order a Diet Water whenever you go out to eat, with a serious face.

8. Specify That Your Drive-through Order Is 'To Go'.

9. Sing Along At The Opera.

10. Five Days In Advance, Tell Your Friends You Can't Attend
Their Party Because You have a headache.

11. When The Money Comes Out The ATM, Scream 'I Won! I Won!'

12. When Leaving the Zoo, Start Running towards the Parking lot,
Yelling 'Run For Your Lives! They're Loose!'

13. Tell Your Children Over Dinner, 'Due To The Economy,
We Are Going To Have To Let One Of You Go.'

And The Final Way To Keep A Healthy Level Of Insanity

14. PICK UP A BOX OF CONDOMS AT THE PHARMACY,
GO TO THE COUNTER AND ASK WHERE THE FITTING ROOM IS. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-11-13  08:02am - 4151 days #122
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A woman takes a lover during the day, while her husband is at work.

One day, her 9-year-old son hides in the closet during one of her romps. Her husband comes home unexpectedly, so she hides the lover in the closet.

The little boy says, "It's dark in here."
The man whispers, "Yes, it is."
Boy - "I have a baseball."
Man - "That's nice."
Boy - "Want to buy it?"
Man - "No, thanks."
Boy - "My dad's outside."
Man - "OK, how much?"
Boy - "$250."

In the next few weeks, it happens again that the boy and the mom's lover end up in the closet together.

Boy - "It's dark in here."
Man - "Yes, it is."
Boy - "I have a baseball glove."
Man - Remembering
last time, asks, "How much?"
Boy - "$750."
Man - "Fine."

A few days later, the father says to the boy, "Grab your ball and glove. Let's go outside and toss the baseball."

The boy says, "I can't. I sold them."

The father asks, "How much did you sell them for?"

The son says "$1,000."

The father says, "It's terrible to overcharge your friends like that. That's way more than those two things cost. I'm going to take you to church and make you confess."

They go to the church and the father makes the little boy sit in the confession booth and he closes the door.




The boy says, "It's dark in here."
The priest says, "Don't start that mess again!" Long live the Brown Coats.

08-11-13  08:00am - 4151 days #5
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^^I like rearadmiral's method so I suggest that you start doing that with your downloads. I also recommend that you consider doing like I do. This way you can do a search by site name or fetish. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-10-13  05:25pm - 4152 days #2
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Wouldn't you first do that as you download them? I know that I rename all my videos to include performers name, the type of sex scene, the site it's taken from and a date. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-10-13  06:44am - 4152 days #7
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^I suspected as much. Don't be surprised if you see that from many other sites/networks. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-09-13  06:40pm - 4153 days #5
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It's not that unusual for sites to limit members from doing what you are attempting to do. They prefer that members not hug all the bandwidth by using a download managers for hours on end. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-08-13  06:00pm - 4154 days #2
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If she does then I certainly have never seen her do it and don't bother with her site because she isn't the one doing anal on that site. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-08-13  03:38am - 4154 days #11
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^Part of the reason why strip clubs are a good place for recruiting talent is because the women who work in those places already take their clothes off in front of a crowd so the transition to doing the same thing in front of a camera is a lot easier for them. That's not to say that a stripper is any more open to getting fucked in front of said camera but I suspect that many start off with nude and slowly migrate toward the sex thing as their agent keeps talking of the money. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-07-13  06:04pm - 4155 days #1173
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^I think it's fair to say that I have loved everything that Joss has done over the years. My only issue with him is his need of killing main characters. That tends to piss me off but what can you do. He is also a genius at coming up with original stuff while JJ tends to copy other peoples stuff. That's not to say that he doesn't add his own style and flavor to the work but he's less of a creator and more of a modifier. That said. I think he is the only director who's been able to make a Spielberg like movie with the amazing "Super 8". I can't tell you just how much I love that movie on so many levels. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-06-13  06:40pm - 4156 days Original Post - #1
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A story broke a couple of days of another syphilis outbreak in the porn industry. The info is coming down in trickles so if you are curious then check the below link for more info.

http://www.mikesouth.com/ Long live the Brown Coats.

08-06-13  06:30pm - 4156 days #2
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The majority of the women who appear on one or both sites are relative unknowns in the porn industry. I believe the guy who shoots those videos is located somewhere in the Midwest so that explains why the girls are unknowns. Some do go on to do more porn but in most simply disappear from the net. I'm not too sure where he recruits the girls but strip clubs, newspaper adds and escorts sites seem to be good places. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that many of them do cam stuff but good luck finding if that's true since there are so many girls who do that and way too many sites that host them.

I said that some go on to do more porn for other studios but this is also hard to find unless you are good with faces because the name on these sites is often a different one than when they word elsewhere.

I'm not a huge fan of the language he uses on his site to describe the performers but then again I'm also not a fan of the kind of porn he shoots. I've been a member a couple of times and I think I've kept about 3 videos and I never really watch these. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-06-13  06:19pm - 4156 days #15
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^See for me there is no way to equate the word glamour with anything to do with semen whether it's on a girls face, in her mouth or being ejaculated all over her body. My idea of glamour in regards to porn involves a solo girl who is at most completely nude but not performing anything sexual in nature. that's it that's all. if she just starts to play with herself then I no longer consider that a glamour shot/video but a midcore scene.

Of course that's my idea of glamour. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-06-13  03:32am - 4156 days #4
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I mostly download stuff that I think I'll watch more than once so collecting is still important to me. I have started to clean one of my drives because it has stuff that I won't ever watch again. This makes space for newer stuff. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-04-13  08:52am - 4158 days #17
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^I agree that less competition means that the remaining sites get a bigger part of the pie but the problem isn't that there is less competition but that there is simply not enough people paying to eat that pie. Of course there are still some that do. We are proof of that but the number keeps getting smaller while the total number of people looking at porn keeps getting bigger. At some point the people like us who pay for porn won't want to pay for the kind of porn that's being made because it's crap. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-04-13  08:46am - 4158 days #11
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Originally Posted by Nasos:


About the Manwin practices, I think they aim partly to what thirstyfish said, to get customers away from other companies, and on the other hand, potential customers who would never get more than say 2 porn subscriptions, now get more, because of these prices.


The Manwin practice is to F..k as many people over as they can. Mind you they aren't alone because many people in the industry have been doing that for years but Manwin had more cash and more balls than previous people and they managed to destroy more companies than anybody before and probably ever again.


Originally Posted by Nasos:


After all, regarding bandwith and stuff, say I have 5 subscriptions to a company like Manwin. How much time the average user would spend on all 5 sites?


I suspect that the answer is a lot in the first few days because some people like to download as much as they can from a site but once they have it all on their computer than the number drops to almost nothing since they only need to download the new updates which is about one scene per day. The problem is that bandwith is relatively a small cost. It's the cost of the performer that is very expensive and that's why I say that a one time lifetime membership is not good for business. One b/g scene is give or take about 2000$ so a site that adds 5 scenes per week needs to have at least 10,000$ in net profit just to pay for the performers. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-04-13  08:38am - 4158 days #10
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Originally Posted by thirstyfish:


This is a very interesting thread. To Pat's point 4 (above) regarding Manwin's financial state and legal problems, here's a link to an article



If you want info that is more current than take a look at some of the stuff Mike South is reporting. Be advised that there is no love lost between Mike and the people behind Manwin. I know he has some detractors who keep saying that he's full of s..t but I tend to believe the stuff he reports.

http://www.mikesouth.com/ Long live the Brown Coats.

08-03-13  05:50pm - 4159 days #7
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Originally Posted by Nasos:


Anyway, I started the thread because I noticed that other companies, don't really make any kind of offer for their other owned sites, except maybe for a 1st month offer, which later rebills at the standard full monthly price.

If you know any companies that offer special prices for their current subscribers please share.


It's a great thread and may be some people will also think that the Brazzer deal is great one and they will have you to thank for telling them. I don't have anything per say against the deal but I wonder why it exist because there is no way for a site to make any money with a deal like this.

That's probably why no other sites offer a similar deal. How can any site survive no incoming cash? Let alone one that has maybe two sites under it's banner. What these sites normally do is give you access to their other site for free but it's never a lifetime membership. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-03-13  05:38pm - 4159 days #15
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


One other thing, the fallout is far greater than I thought. I have noticed things changing a LOT recently. There are now far fewer new shoots than I expected. I don't disagree with Pat all the time, I am merely not as negative as he is.


I am rather negative but that is less by choice than by the overall picture that I currently see of the porn industry.
I don't know how many sites or studios you keep track off but I track plenty of them and most are in trouble. Worst is that the ones that aren't in trouble are usually dead. That's why I say that porn is dying. Not dead nor will it ever really be dead. After all there is porn on the net that was made 40 years ago and I'm sure that 40 years from now there will be porn that was made today. That doesn't mean that the sites or studios that made those movies will still be around nor will anyone remember who made the movie.

You even notice that the fallout is greater than you thought but imagine just how bad it's going to get because it's still falling. Try to Google anything related to porn and tell me if any of the first couple pages of hits aren't for tube sites. How can any studio compete when the major search engines return mostly free porn sites. Long live the Brown Coats.

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