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08-03-13  09:54am - 4159 days #11
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Originally Posted by thirstyfish:


Depressing as it that may seem, it's also very valuable info to have, Pat. For which I'm grateful.


Very true but it sucks to be the one who paid money for the bad site. Mind you I still do that as one of my upcoming review will show. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-03-13  09:51am - 4159 days #4
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I think I've only heard of one instance where a site stopped the member from accessing the site because he had cancelled his membership. I don't remember if it was a glitch or what but every site that I've ever joined has never stopped me from accessing their content even though I cancelled my membership with the first two weeks.

If it should happen then you immediately contact the sites support desk or your cc processor and complain because it shouldn't happen. You pay for a month then you get access for that month. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-03-13  09:44am - 4159 days #4
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Although I agree that on the surface it appears to be a great deal and maybe it is for many people but you have to be very careful here.

1-You are still paying more than 3 times the current join price and that's above the cost of your Brazzer membership.

2-A lifetime membership to a site may seem like a great deal but will you really be downloading all that much stuff on a monthly basis from them? I know that I join certain sites only once or maybe twice a year because there is simply not enough stuff worth it for me to join more often or to keep an active membership.

3-Cancelling your Brazzer membership will automatically void your access to all the other sites so that means that for the deal to be worth it then you need to keep your brazzer membership active for at least a year. I've had mine active for a lot longer but I also only pay 10$ a month so I could probably try one of the offers.

4-This last one is a little more dubious but may be the most important one of all. Rumors are that Manwin is in deep financial trouble at the moment as well as some legal ones. They bought way too many properties at very high cost and their management of these properties leaves a lot to be desired. Then there's the fact that they have been raping the industry for the last few years to the point where too many people now get their porn from Tube sites. Manwin owns those sites so they still get some revenue from the traffic but I suspect that it's not enough to cover the cost of maintaining them and fighting all the legal battles that are starting to stack up against them. Knowing this then I don't know if I feel comfortable giving a company 70 $ for a membership that may become void just a few months in once the company changes it's policies or gets sold to a third party who won't recognize any past transactions.

Let's be honest here. It's basic economy 101. How can any company make money if they don't get regular infusion of cash? After all their production cost are not going down so they need those revenues. A yearly membership to most of these sites is about 100$ and that's a saving of about 100$ VS if you keep renewing your standard membership for that year. Now with the new deal the company is giving you a 40% discount from the yearly membership and also makes it a lifetime membership so that they make less money upfront and won't ever make any more. Does that make any sense to you? Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Aug 03, 2013, 05:42pm

08-03-13  09:09am - 4159 days #8
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Anal is always the top fetish but I think it's now a toss up between IR and facials as to which one is number 2. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-02-13  06:36pm - 4160 days #6
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Although facials and I are not compatible. I'm going to add to this discussion. I know that a percentage of porn guys go absolutely nuts for facials and more power to you guys but none of the sites you named or any that do glamour shoots would ever do cum play and facials because there is no way to do a glamorous facial and a beautifully shot young model who barely does b/g will certainly not accept that her guy cum all over her face and even if she did then the vast majority of the sites customers would have a huge cow.

Todays type of facials are a pretty new thing. There were some cum shots to the face in the early days of porn but I don't consider them to be true facials because it was just a guy ejaculating on a girls face because it was there as opposed to a guy fucking a girl and then stopping, getting up, walking in front of the girl and then shooting his load all over her face.

As much as some girls pretend that they love facials. The general consensus I get from what I have read is that most if not all of them really dislike facials. They still do them but don't take their smile as happiness. it's just good acting. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-02-13  06:25pm - 4160 days #31
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I think an amazing option would be if sites sent out an email a week or so before the membership is about to end to ask the customer if he wants to rebill or cancel. This way they could bypass the rebill or no rebill option on their join page and they could get a better feel on the way their customer feels about the site if they add an option for comments on the cancel page. There is already one but I don't think it every gets back to anyone who cares about the answer. They certainly have never contacted me when I told them I was displeased with something. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-02-13  06:15pm - 4160 days #16
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^Far be it for me to interfere in your family but I would be very reticent in giving family members medical advice if I was a physician. I think it is next to impossible for a family member to remove emotions (good or bad) from their view of things and that applies to a physician so any advice he or she could make would be greatly influenced by those emotions and that's a bad mixture. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-02-13  06:06pm - 4160 days #1171
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All true but even a powerhouse like Disney must still feel the loss of 135 millions. I'd also like to add that the Star Wars project has not even begun and there are already grumblings. Key one being the supposed director. I'm sure that JJ Abrams looked like an amazing idea when they were considering which director should get the job but I keep hearing rumors that Disney isn't too happy with the direction he wants to take the franchise and after the amount they paid for the franchise then the last thing they want is another clusterf..k like the prequels. They made money and that's all good but I don't think too many people are happy with finish product. There's the fact that the last Star Trek movie was not the hit that Paramount was hoping for and they want another one by 2016 to celebrate the 50th anniversary.

I like the stuff JJ Abrams does but I can't say that his 2 Star Trek movies were all that great. The first one was pretty good but the story was awful. The second one is even worse. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-02-13  05:52pm - 4160 days #3
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I don't know about you guys but I get far better deals than PU or TBP can offer through my email these days so I can see why a newsletter from TBP would not be any good for me.

I'd also like to add that there are simply no new sites that are worth discussing except to tell people not to join them and most of the established ones are staring to look worse each week so talking about them is depressing. I've said it plenty of times before but porn is dying and no one wants to look at that. Now you guys might not think so and it that's the case then prove me wrong. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-01-13  03:52pm - 4161 days #1169
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I was curious to know how bad The Lone Ranger's box office profits were going to be and as of yesterday they are 164 millions. Normally that wouldn't necessarily be such a bad number but only 85 millions is from North America and the percentage is better when it's from domestic box office. Of course since the budget of the LR was 215 millions. To that we add a reasonable 85 millions in marketing so Disney spent about 300 millions to make and market the movie so they easily lost 130 millions. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-01-13  03:37am - 4161 days #5
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^I think that your health situation more than covers the fact that you did not find anything to laugh about and I'd add that in this case laughter might not have ben the best remedy as this would only have aggravated what are already big problems. Of course I can't promise that if you see a pancake with an happy face and some whip cream that you won't remember the video. I know I will and that might get me tagged as some kind of nutty person when I burst out laughing.

I hope you get well soon but if it should take longer than you or anyone else would like to then please don't get discouraged. There are some things in life that take time.
Please let us all know how things progress as I'm sure we all want to hear about it.

P.S: I hope you won't take offense if I say that I will pray for a quick recovery. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-31-13  03:14pm - 4162 days Original Post - #1
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Here's a link to a video that explains the differences between porn sex and real sex. They use food as examples and I dare anyone not to laugh at least once.

http://jezebel.com/the-truth-about-porn-...-with-deli-969955518 Long live the Brown Coats.

07-30-13  06:31pm - 4163 days #11
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^And since the only legit way is to license the content then you and I both know that free will not be part of the discussion. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-29-13  04:42pm - 4164 days #7
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I agree with everyone else that this is at least borderline piracy and I'd add that any forum site that allows it's members to share HD content is definitely a piracy site since HD is quite young so therefore the parent site must still be active in one form or another. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-29-13  03:38am - 4164 days #12
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:



again and ask if his phillybuttsluts material is available anywhere else. I'm assuming that the two sites have different scenes since the two Kacey Jordan scenes are different.



You can ask him but the answer is likely no since both guys post on ADT and the story goes back a couple of years now.
The guy that owns dirt pipe is or was the cameraman for the Philly site and he tried for the longest time to open is own site and I guess that the philly owner was less than thrilled to have a site that offers essentially most of the scenes available on his site but for a fraction of the cost of buying scenes on clips4sale.

They must have some kind of an arrangement because dirt pipe is now active and is still updating. It's a tiny site with maybe one new scene per week (if that) but when you consider that the scenes can only be found on clisp4sale then the join price is more than decent. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-28-13  10:47am - 4165 days #7
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^Resolution on the videos that I have is 1280x720. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-28-13  09:17am - 4165 days #5
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I recently joined a newly-added site here to get access to a rare Taylor Dare anal scene and also discovered an equally rare Kacey Jordan anal scene. That got wondering if there were more Kacey Jordan anals out there so I googled it and got a hit at a site called "Philly Butt Sluts" that seems to only be accessible through a site called "Clips4Sale."


I'm assuming that the site where you found the Taylor Dare scene is dirtpipedivas. If yes then the reason why it's there and also on phillybuttsluts is because the guy who shoots the scenes for philly is the same guy that owns dirtpipe. There are more scenes on the philly site but it's a lot cheaper to buy a dirtpipe membership.

I was going to do a review of dirtpipedivas.com but there was a problem with the site. I stopped having access to the site about a week into my one month membership and the webmaster credited me for the entire transaction so I wasn't sure if I could do a review. If you have any question then I'll gladly answer them. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Jul 28, 2013, 09:21am

07-28-13  09:13am - 4165 days #4
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I've been buying the odd clips4sale scene for the last two months or so and I agree that they are on the expensive side of things but if you are lucky (or good) then you can find some really great gems. Of course that doesn't mean that I wouldn't want theme to be cheaper and sometimes you can get some great deals but even if you don't then look on the bright side of things. They are at least cheaper than most if not all cam shows.

The only warning/advice I give anyone is do your research before buying a scene. There is so much content and not all of it is exclusive to the site. If the performer is a well known one them make sure you can't actually find the scene on another paying site. I often see some scenes that could be found on other sites. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-25-13  06:45pm - 4168 days #44
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^Even I am finding that I have less and less desire to add anything in the forum and I only have maybe one or two reviews that I'm working on and these aren't even for new sites.

I still claim that the porn industry in general is going down the Sh..hole so why wouldn't anything attached to it not suffer because of it? Long live the Brown Coats.

07-23-13  05:52pm - 4170 days #16
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^You got to love the Brits and their dark humor. I'm assuming that you saw the article and that you also saw the picture above it. The picture should help with the joke. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-23-13  05:50pm - 4170 days #3
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Since I use IE on a regular basis then simply click on your tools button on the upper right of the screen. It looks like a small gear. Then click internet options and you will see on the general page the option of deleting cookies and what not.

I would also recommend you try to access the sites with Firefox or another browser to see if they work. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-22-13  04:36am - 4171 days Original Post - #1
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I know a couple of our forum participant are from the UK and I was curious to know if you had heard about a story the Daily Mail ran yesterday about the UK actively looking to block access to all pornography from the internet unless the user asks for it from his/her ISP. I'm including a link below to the story. Now it's from the Daily Mail and I'm told that they aren't always as truthful as you would expect a newspaper to be.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ledges-opt-rule.html Long live the Brown Coats.

07-20-13  06:55pm - 4173 days #1165
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I read that today and the first thing that came to mind was that it's a really dumb idea. You have one franchise that just ended and one that had a hard time getting off the ground and you want to mix both of them. How about making a sequel to Superman that isn't so dark and moody? I don't know if they realise this but Superman is suppose to be an upbeat superhero. I know they wanted to avoid that when they made Man of Steel but the box office profits should have been a gigantic warning sign that a sequel better no go down the same route or they will suffer a worse faith.

These kind of stories tell me that Hollywood no longer knows how to make good movies. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-20-13  08:07am - 4173 days #31
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^I think the problem is that we are talking about Russia and based on some recent events then I feel safe in saying that their idea of justice is not the same as mine and not the same as it is in North America. It's quite possible that you are 100% correct but when there is a law that tells you that shooting porn in Russia can lead to prison then how many people really want to take the risk?
Especially now when the rewards are so small. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-15-13  05:33pm - 4178 days #10
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^Although you're correct about the 8% on the poll. I would not take that number as being accurate since only 51 people voted and I'd say the majority of the comments were either that people didn't like it or were indifferent. I think only one commenter said that he loved it.

I still maintain that less than 1% of people who watch porn are into watersports. Of course it doesn't matter what the number is as long as you like it and you can find places where they still shoot that type of content. I checked the site you linked and since they don't actually have a real preview section then I checked out the sites owned by the same company. My gut feeling is that this site and most of the others are all dead sites now and have been for quite a while.

P.S: I'm sorry but I forgot to say welcome to our little community. I hope we see more post from you and I eagerly await your reviews of those pee sites. That may not be a fetish I care for but that doesn't mean that others aren't waiting to see recent reviews of those sites. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-15-13  02:40pm - 4178 days #8
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^Actually I think Kink stopped updating their watersport site a couple of year ago. I can't remember if there was a reason given. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-14-13  04:41pm - 4179 days #4
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^I seriously doubt that 1 in a 100 are into piss porn as much as 1 in a 100 are curious to know what it's about. If you want proof then check out TBP's section dedicated to pissing sites and you'll see that the top 10 are mostly all dead (ie: no longer updating with new content) and I'd say that most also have some old stuff. The only exception is wet and pissy which is a fairly new site. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-14-13  12:04pm - 4179 days #13
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^Seeing that so many of todays porn movies love to zoom in on the action then can you imagine seeing the males package coming at you during one of those shots? Long live the Brown Coats.

07-14-13  12:01pm - 4179 days #2
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I could be wrong but I think you will find that watersport is not a very popular fetish among most members. It's not even one that is well represented on the net. Mind you that could be because it is till a fringe fetish. I know that it's not something that ever turned me on. I don't compare it to scat because scat is truly unhealthy while piss play is just weird(at least to me). I know that for the longest time the US porn industry tried to find a way to incorporate piss in their movies without getting into trouble and that's why you saw a wave of squirting movies.
You don't see that as much now. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-13-13  06:37pm - 4180 days #14
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^I'm sure what that producer said 20 years ago is the truth but he was not talking about the kind of porn we now see being made. The 90's was probably the best decade the porn industry ever had and although they were making a lot less feature porn. They were not making the kind of crap we've seen made in the last 5 years.

I'd love to know what he thinks of todays porn VS the kind he was making back then. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-13-13  01:47pm - 4180 days #1163
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Just came back from seeing Pacific Rim and this is by far my favorite movie this year. I can't say the story is all that original because I've seen similar Japanese movies in my youth but Del Toro still managed to do some nice things with the premise. The effects are amazing, the lighting is very good and the pacing is excellent. I didn't look at my watch once and that's rather telling when you consider the movie is two and a half hours long.

Many of the scenes happen at night or in low light and that didn't prevent me from seeing all of the action. That's impressive when you consider that I saw the movie in 3D.

Well worth seeing in a theater. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-11-13  02:36pm - 4182 days #1162
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^I knew it was in the works but I was hoping that they had an out clause in the contract for such an event. I didn't see the last one so I can't really comment but number 2 was bad and number 3 was so awful that I've seen it once on dvd and I have no desire to ever see it again. That's telling when you consider that I own the movie.

I don't know if the next installment of POTC is going to make money but I hope it bombs. If only so that we can see Depp play something other than Jack Sparrow. He has now played the same character 5 times in movies, 4 in the POTC franchise and Tonto is pretty the same character in The Lone Ranger. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-10-13  07:07pm - 4183 days #1160
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^I don't know if you remember but The Lone Ranger almost didn't get made because the studio found that the original budget of 250 millions was too high. The producer said it cut it down to 215 millions but it still somehow magically wound up back to it's original cost of 250 millions. When you add marketing budget and what not then we are probably looking at a final cost of 350 millions dollars. If the studio thinks that they will only have to do a 100 millions write-down then they've probably being using too much of Tinkerbell's magic powder.

The movie has only made 79 millions as of yesterday and a 1/4 of that amount is from Foreign box office takes so actual profit is much lower on Foreign than Domestic. The movie will probably not be in theaters 2 weeks from now so when can they expect to even make half of their money back?

This financial fiasco may be the catalyst that puts a stop to any future Pirates of the Caribbean movie. I know that's unlikely but one never knows. Maybe people are fed up of seeing Depp play a stoned/drunk/weird character as the protagonist. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-10-13  06:40pm - 4183 days #2
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Do you mean the Better Business Bureau? I wasn't aware that there was one for America porn let alone for anywhere else in the World. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-07-13  10:01am - 4186 days #13
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^What's worse is that most of todays cartoons can't even come up with an original idea but keep copying past work and doing a piss poor job at it. I recently saw that there are new Bugs Bunny cartoon and I saw maybe two minutes of one and had to change the channel because they were so bad. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-06-13  06:46pm - 4187 days #11
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I was too. The cartoons, or what they call cartoons don't compare to Professor Peabody's Wayback Machine or Go Go Gophers. Give me Daffy Duck anytime.


I don't think there is a single cartoon made in the last 5 years that is worth discussing except to say that you can actually feel your brain melting as you watch any of them.
You are dumber after watching any of them than you were prior to it. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-06-13  09:54am - 4187 days #5
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^I think the controversy was primarily fan driven more than anything else and that's why it barely made a ripple when the pictures were first made public. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-06-13  07:49am - 4187 days #2
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^There was a tiny controversy when the photos were first released because some felt that it was unfair to show the girls looking like normal women. It didn't last long when it was learned that the vas majority of the women in those photos didn't care. The woman responsible for the makeup is http://instagram.com/xmelissamakeupx#.

I agree that some of the women benefit from the makeover but the vast majority are still quite beautiful without any and even those that aren't necessarily as beautiful as the others may just be having an off day. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-04-13  02:38pm - 4189 days #2
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Happy 4th of July to our American Members. Hopefully none of you ate too many hot-dogs. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-01-13  05:28pm - 4192 days #2
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Normally I'd say that you shouldn't have because you will regret it but if I'm reading you correctly then you had about 20TB of porn. That's almost 10 times more than I have. I tend to be very picky about what I download so it makes sense that I'd have a lot less than you but I can't imagine a time when I will have even half that. It certainly won't be anytime soon if current porn trends continue. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-01-13  09:49am - 4192 days #26
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^I'm sure that it helped but it was never the reason why I joined this site nor why I'm still here and I don't think I'm alone. I think that the drop in reviews is endemic of the porn industry in general. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-30-13  07:00pm - 4193 days #14
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^I can't speak too much for how it is in your corner of the world but I don't find that people are any taller now than they were a few decades ago. There might be a few more tall people but based on the people I see and meet than my 5'10" is still about average height. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-30-13  08:28am - 4193 days #24
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Originally Posted by Marcus:


I think it's undeniable it's quietened down since the raffle ended. I know everywhere porn-related is quieter,


You may be right but I'm not willing to equate the two just yet. I still think that the main reason for the drop off is that there are no new sites that are worth joining and most of the established ones already have plenty of good reviews.

Originally Posted by Marcus:


For example, I can't remember the last time my reviews or comments got any replies from PU users.


Can't speak for your comments but I know that I haven't commented on your most recent reviews because they are mostly all for solo models and I rarely comment on those. I find that the bulk of them are bad. The only thing that distinguishes one from the other is normally the level of bad.


Originally Posted by Marcus:

to me there's been no increase in quality of reviews - if anything, the quality has declined.


True but you must have noticed that all of the unimpressive reviews are pretty much all from newbie reviewers. Now I'm sure some can be forgiven for their lack of info on their reviews but some of these smell of free advertising.

Originally Posted by Marcus:


And I'm a little dismayed people here aren't really fussed about the reviews. Porn sites seem to be worse than ever, so if this aspect of the site dwindles and I can't read about the pros/cons of a site before I join, it will be a sad day and the site will lose a lot of it's value IMHO.


I don't know if you followed the recent shit storm the site "I dream of JO' created but I'd say that there was plenty of back and forth in the comments and the reviews. Mind you it does get tiresome to do that when the reviewer is not open to suggestion. After a while you just give and move on.

Originally Posted by Marcus:


So yeah, this isn't me panicking, but likewise, I'm not sticking my head in the sand and pretending there isn't a problem.


I'm not panicking because I think that it's useless to do that but I don't expect the immediate future of the porn industry to be bright. Manwin is under investigation for fraud, Evil Angel and John Stagliano are being sued by a performer who claims that she was never told that he is HIV+ and she claims that there were some contact that border on the sexual(more women might come forward). Mr Marcus is being sued by at least one performer who claims that he gave her syphilis, He went to jail for 30 days because he faked his test and put many performers at risk, Elegant Angel who is or was one of the top porn studios is now dying a slow death, the number of performers that have left the industry in the last six months is staggering and that's getting worse. I could go on but it's not going to sound any better. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-29-13  10:07am - 4194 days #11
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Originally Posted by biker:


Hi Drooler.

See how their not even showing bellybuttons and those hair styles really date this film. A few years latter and we get Barbarella.


We got too see a lot more hair in Barbarella. As well as a lot more skin. At least a lot more from future superstar Jane Fonda. There is always talk of making a remake of Barbarella but I've yet to see anything definitive. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-29-13  10:01am - 4194 days #10
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I guess that's Dolores Reed on the right as Professor Puna. (Not Dr. Tanga on the left.) They're pretty hot.


If I'm correct than the other woman is Gloria Victor who was or still is 5'11". Mind you I read somewhere else that she might only be 5'7". Long live the Brown Coats.

06-28-13  05:49pm - 4195 days #8
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^Wasn't a bad suggestion for someone looking for anal scenes but I get the feeling that the OP was looking for scenario based porn and that precludes Eastern European sites since 99% of them don't do that. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-27-13  06:35pm - 4196 days #6
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^I don't think so because that's an Eastern European site. if there is any dialogue (which I doubt) then it will all be in a dialect that none of us understand. I think the OP is looking for an English speaking site. Not to mention that this is content that is a few years old now. Long live the Brown Coats.

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^MY advice is that even if they comeback then you should still avoid joining otherwise you may regret it. Now in case you are wondering why I said that then let me explain my reasons.

This was once a great network that went dead in 2011. That is to say that they stopped updating with new content but they never said anything about it and they kept the site active so that anyone joining would not know that the site was no longer updating. Now there was a lot of content so that might not have been an issue for someone with a one month membership but they were still offering long term memberships. Can you imagine buying a one year membership and then realising that it's been a few months and there are still no new scenes.

Then sometime last year the site started to update again. That lasted for a couple of months but then people started to complain that it was very hard to log in, download speeds were atrocious and then you saw less and less new updates. Finally the site just died. Long live the Brown Coats.

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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


If Will Smith won't be in the Independence Day sequels, who's going to bother going to see those movies in a theater?
Director Roland Emmerich has made a big mistake, thinking that Will Smith, at $50 million per movie, is too expensive.
Will Smith is a proven box-office Megastar. And he's worth every penny of $50 million.


I don't think he's wrong with this one. I like Will Smith as an actor but other than the MIB movies and the I Robot" movie. There isn't much else that I've enjoyed from him. He also no longer has the box office clout that he once had and this is especially true after the catastrophic After Earth. The movie cost 130 millions but there must be almost another 100 millions tied in to promotion and what not and the movie only made 57 millions at the domestic box office. It did manage to make 171 when you add Foreign box office but that means that the studio probably lost over 100 million.

I'd also like to add that Smith wasn't exactly the star of the last movie. He was only an Air Force pilot with dreams of becoming an astronaut who flew the ship that destroyed the aliens. Jeff Goldblum was probably the bigger star in the last one Long live the Brown Coats.

06-26-13  06:47pm - 4197 days #2
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The latest news I read was on EBI's forum in May and the guy said that she still does the odd cam show on livejasmin but other than that she is out of the porn industry. He claimed that she also still does some escorting. Long live the Brown Coats.

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