Thanks for explanation. From my point of view (as a customer of LostBetsGames) getting old stuff which has already been eaten (oops, sorry, sold) isn't a good thing, so I'm going to keep revised rating of 72 :-).
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+++ supposedly unscripted action
++ vast variety of games/locations
++ excellent variety of actions
+ action starts from undressing, and progresses to very wild sex
+ models mostly behave believable
++ draw to "witness" next shooting yourself
+ games are integrated into the action
+ very good cameraguy work and lighting
+ online game simulator of the very same game
+ claimed ability to play the same game for real with swinger friends
+ no pre-checked cross-sales (YMMV)
Cons:
- most older games are spoken in local language (not English); it would be a big problem, but it is mitigated by subtitles
- online simulator is limited: it is not 3D, and actions are not animated.
- picture quality is limited (1280x720 at most)
Bottom Line:
This review is one of my reviews of sites which can be described as "videos about people playing sexual games" (see my reviews of SpicyRoulette and LostBetsGames).
FuckingGamble.com is about swingers gathering to play some game for sex. After every game round, winner takes so-called "action card" to see what they will be doing. "Action cards" progress from simple undressing towards the orgy which usually involves all the players. All the game is supposedly mostly unscripted (and I tend to believe it).
Variety of stuff they have is very good.
It includes variety of scenarios (up to 3 guys + 3 girls, as well as a few all-girl scenarios), variety of actions (up to anal/DP, plus variety of toys), and variety of games and locations (from playing cards indoors to paintball or go karts). Games are somewhat integrated into the action (I shall admit that nude girls running on go karts or playing water polo was quite a sight :-) ).
They claim to have it almost 100% unscripted, and even claim to provide an option for one of the members to see it for himself. On Feb 1 they've launched a process of figuring out who's going to go to one of their April shoots; it is too early to say if it is for real or not, but I will try to get there for sure :-) (in their FAQ they're adamant about not allowing to have sex with models, which IMHO makes chances for it to happen better then for sites like BeTheMask).
Quality of videos is very good to excellent. Cameraguy work and lighting are very good. Technically, it is also very decent: most of the games are 1280x720, with bitrates up to 6MBit/s, in both WMV and MP4. They also have an iPod version, which IMHO is the best-quality adult video I've ever seen for iPod. At least one of newer games was Full HD 1920x1080, with bitrates up to 12MBit/s (I didn't try 12Mbit/s, so cannot comment on quality), and they promise to provide more of such stuff soon.
What I also liked is that they provide LOTS of information, including game rules posted on site, upcoming update schedule, locations, etc. FAQ is HUGE and was quite an interesting read at least for me.
In particular, they claim that you can play the very same game for yourself, either in online simulator or with friends. While I'm not 100% sure it is playable for real by swingers, I shall say that they provide VERY elaborated interface for describing your sexual preferences, so it MIGHT work after all. Game in online simulator is IMHO a nice value-added thing, though YMMV.
Now to the negatives. IMHO the biggest drawback is that most of the games are shot in Hungary, and most of dialogues would be lost if not for subtitles. A few newer games were shot in US with English spoken. Another thing is that picture lovers are likely to be disappointed (1280x720 pictures aren't bad, but not as impressive as FEMJOY).
Bottom line: if you like games and are interested in videos, you should at least take a look at their tour. Most likely, you'll either love it or hate it :-).
Thanks for insight, but [beep], [beep] and once again [beep] (sorry for being rude, but I cannot help it). Obviously, reselling old content is much cheaper for them then making new one, but reselling old content using new production dates is something I can't consider an honest business practice.
BTW, maybe you can submit an error report on TBP to challenge their claim that "All content is exclusive (advertised as 100% exclusive.)."?
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Updated:
02-02-1005:03am (Update History) Reason: Rating has been changed based on Capn's report that content is not exclusive, but re-used old content from Clips4Sale
Pros:
++ original idea
++ supposedly unscripted action
++ variety of games
+ girls seem to have fun
+ frequent updates
+ no pre-checked cross-sales (YMMV)
Cons:
-- girls are often on ugly side
-- video quality is poor for year 2010
- action is very soft (almost "strip-only")
- games are indoor-only
- no stills
Bottom Line:
As a big fan of sex games, I am really happy to find various sites with the same idea popping up recently. In addition to LostBetsGames, launched in Oct'09, there is SpicyRoulette, launched in Dec'09 (see my review a month ago), and FuckingGamble, launched in Jan'10 (stay tuned for my review upcoming in few days).
LostBetsGames is yet another site, similar in spirit to DareRing (now not updated anymore for a REALLY long while) and to StripGameCentral. It looks as it is about real people gathering and playing real strip games. I LIKE this idea (unscripted amateur action), I like it a LOT, the thing I do NOT like is amateurish implementation of this idea. I can understand that it will be "girl next door", not a pornstar, but LostBetGames IMHO went too far, often crossing the line between "girl next door" and "outright ugly girl". Videos are shot and processed in obviously amateurish style (lighting, cameraguy work, and color balance being almost nonexistent). And about encoding - come on, I do NOT think that in year 2010 320x240 qualifies as "medium quality", and that 640x480 qualifies as "HD". And on LostBetsGames, 320x240 is the MOST you can get for WMV, and 640x480 - the MOST you can get for MP4.
If they could overcome their technical shortcomings, it would be a VERY good site, mostly because of (at least mostly) unscripted nature and girls having real fun playing. And they update once a week, with every update being a single game from 5 to 15 minutes.
Bottom line: While LostBetsGames back in Oct'09 probably was a VERY interesting thing, now, with arrival of SpicyRoulette and FuckingGamble, I think they need to add more professionalism to become really competitive. Real girls having fun is great, but decent video quality (including cameraguy work, lighting and encoding) should also be there. On the other hand, if REAL strip poker is your thing, it easily can be worth a look.
UPDATE: based on Capn's report that content is not exclusive, but re-used old content from Clips4Sale (which also explains why looks so out-of-date), rating has been dropped by 10 points.
Obviously it's a critical question, sorry that I didn't mention it in review (got used for this stuff to be covered by TBP :-)); I was able to find 8 games on the site, each about an hour of video. For me even $30 they're asking for is not THAT much for such original content, but obviously opinions can vary :-). There are 2 bonus sites thrown in too (MyDrFeelGood and PrivateHandjobs), but I cannot comment on them.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+++ unique idea, with supposedly unscripted action
++ one of the very few sites which play around "strip poker" ("strip roulette", and so on) theme
++ special thanks for sexual "truth or dare"
+ action starts from undressing, and progresses to pretty wild sex
+ models mostly behave believable
+ lots of reasonable and supposedly unscripted dialogs between models (which improves 'reality' feeling)
+ 'girl-next-door' models which adds to 'reality' feeling
+ decent video quality
+ several video formats
+ no pre-checked cross-sales (YMMV)
Cons:
-- probably at least somewhat scripted
-- site is quite small (8 episodes, 1 hour each)
- game rules are not posted
- regularity of updates is unclear
- 3rd-party ads on a paysite??
Bottom Line:
Being a big fun of sex games in all varieties, and having spent lots of time on finding this unusual stuff, I was pleasantly surprised with SpicyRoulette (I assume it is a very new site, it wasn't even listed on TBP before I've asked for it). IMHO it is a very decent site along the same lines as now discontinued DareRing, but without most of it's deficiencies.
The idea is very simple, they have people take certain random actions in turn, and actions are along the lines of classical "Truth or Dare" with a strong sexual twist. It looks very good, with supposedly unscripted interactions between models, and after a while culminates in an all-out orgy.
So far so good. On the second thought, it makes me a bit suspicious about scripting it. If '0' on roulette means 'all players participate in massive 69', then what would have happened if '0' would come out in the very beginning of the game? My feeling is that there is at least some scripting involved, which isn't too bad, but creates certain negative feeling for me. Still, for the funs of real strip truth or dare (like myself), it is IMHO by far the best site out there.
As it is not described on TBP yet, a few words about technical side: videos are HD 1280x720, WMV 5MBps (there is also a low-res WMV option); there are also MPEG-4 and iPod versions (though iPod wasn't too good); Flash preview is also available.
Pictures are IMHO good (though I'm not an expert in pictures, so please take it with a grain of salt :-)), with most of them of quite strange resolution of 1600x1067, and ZIP-ped download available.
Bottom line: great idea and reasonably good implementation make it a VERY good (and long-needed) successor to DareRing. I would expect it to be an interesting try for anybody interested in videos of real people playing computerless sex games.
> Fun poll, asmith - It makes you kind of nostalgic.
I didn't think about this side when submitting it, but you're right - when reading it, it IS kind of nostalgic :-).
Well, most of us here are "losers with nothing better to do". Except, of course, certain smart guys who're trying to make money out of PU by putting ridiculous ratings for certain websites, and even not bothering to write more then a few lines to justify it.
Thanks, calculation follows:
51min 16sec = 3076 sec
4,675,992,829 bytes = 4,675,992,829 * 8 bits = 37,407,942,632 bits
So we have average bitrate = 37,407,942,632 / 3076 = 12,161,230 bits/sec, or approximately 12MBit/s . It is indeed HUGE (Asstraffic has about 8MBit/s); on the other hand, higher bitrate does not always guarantee higher quality, so it's a pity that Brazzers don't have an HD sample for public download, so everybody could compare their quality.
If you can tell me (for the same file) it's size in bytes (megabytes, gigabytes) AND it's length in minutes, I can easily calculate it's bitrate. Thanks in advance.
> They do take up alot of space 4-5 GBs
Do you know what kind of bitrate they have? Or at least can you tell how long one single file is (in minutes) and how large it is (in gigabytes)?
Yes, and also ALL the sites should be marked as RTA/whatever else, so browser filters (school ones and those installed by parents) are able to filter such sites out. While I really hate government regulation, I think THIS (site labeling) should be made the law (it does not create any problems while solving concerns of those who cares about minors accessing porn).
> Brazzers if brighter with much richer color textures.
With AssTraffic colors already being IMHO vastly oversaturated, I can't say it's a good thing if somebody has even more saturated colors.
> Put it this way, I have a very powerful computer that plays the
> Brazzers HD smoothly with no problem at all, but if I try to fast
> forward a scene it will not let me do it, the video freezes. No
> other HD porn has ever given me that problem.
And you see that "video freezes" as an ADVANTAGE for Brazzers?? No comments.
If we're speaking about the sites which say about "real people", I can agree it's (arguable) a kind of fantasy. But if we're speaking about the sites who promise their members a chance to get into shoot (which I think was the whole question of this poll), and using boyfriends of models instead, I tend to qualify it as an OUTRIGHT CHEATING; don't you agree?
Oh, so not only their marketing, but also their programmers went downhill recently; doesn't look too good for them :-(. Still, if they refunded money, it's not a bad sign (most of the sites won't bother at all with refunding and even with answering e-mails these days :-(( ).
Do you mean that guys from the site members are GETTING PAID for doing it? :-) If yes, it would probably simplify things, though as the guy has paid for the site, to qualify as "getting paid" for it they will likely need to pay ALL of his previous membership dues, PLUS something "extra".
And obviously even then it will depend on specific location GREATLY (California is one thing, Tennessee is another one, and Europe is a different game altogether), which alone is enough for me to re-iterate that personally I still wouldn't risk it.
> I have to ask how you've missed all the comments and reviews about this site...
I didn't really miss them, but there are two reasons why I still wrote this comment:
1. Even after reading reviews, I didn't expect it to be THAT bad.
2. with average PU rating being in 85+ range, I don't think it is yelled loud enough :-).
Was a member approx. 2 months prior to this review.
Pros:
++ surprisingly good "script play" by porn models
++ very good lighting
++ very good cameraguy work
++ very good locations
+ big network
+ reasonable variety even without single site
+ good SD video quality
+ frequent updates
Cons:
----- Outright cheating about HD right from the home page
--- pre-checked cross-sales
- somewhat overgrown recent SD video files (2.3Mbit/s for 768x432).
Bottom Line:
I would like to say that Brazzers could be one of the networks to wish for as a Christmas present :-), if not for what I consider CHEATING their own users :-(.
On the surface they look as just one of the many networks (most of which are poor-quality and boooring), but if going inside, it seems that Brazzers do everything (except for ONE thing) just a bit better, and it makes a BIG difference.
Video quality is VISIBLY better then usual, models are a BIT better then usual, locations and lighting/cameraguy work are EXCELLENT. They even managed to add some variety to their sites, and make models play scripts in quite believable way. From technical point of view, while I don't think that 2.3MBit/s is what really required for their recent 768x432 videos, but IMHO there is nothing TOO bad about it.
Overall, quality is excellent, amount of material is enormous, updates are frequent, and there is some additional twist is added by locations and scripts. What else could you can wish for? Just one thing - that they would not CHEAT on their own users. And when you click on their home page a big sign which says "Join now and embrace the future with the best HD experience", you get to "Join" page with prices, pay, and only THEN figure out that HD they've promised you pon home page is EXTRA which you need to PAY FOR (so-called "Brazzers Credits"). The more I think about it, the more it looks as CHEATING for me.
As a result, while their productions team is second to none, and I would like to put a 90 mark for them, I feel compelled to deduct 5 points for PRE-CHECKED cross-sales, and another 10 - for this CHEATING with HD, so it makes 75 now.
IF they will at least TELL UPFRONT that HD is EXTRA, I would still rant how bad this practice is, but at least it will be fair warning for the users, and I will be happy to remove those deductions I've mentioned above.
P.S. What I would wish for a Christmas present: if Brazzers would keep their excellent production team but will fire their over-aggressive sales team; BTW, I think it would be helpful for the site in the long run, because CHEATING YOUR OWN USERS doesn't usually work long.
Brazzers home page at the moment of this post says: "Now in FULL HD", and "Join now and embrace the future with the best HD experience". If you click on "Join now...", you will get to "Join page", with prices. But there is NOTHING to tell you, that when you pay, you will NOT get this HD stuff they were talking about, but will need to pay EVEN MORE to get it.
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