Thanks for your kind words and for forgiving my overbearing "doubts" on your review. :) At that time we'd really had a problem with overzealous reviews and had no idea what to do about it. From one side, if someone really loved a site that much then that's just as valid as anything the rest of us would say. We felt certain that some people were writing reviews just to boost traffic to a site, but I think we picked on the wrong person.
So, there was more to it when we ranted that had very little to do with you, so if you felt it actually helped then I can feel a little less guilty about going off on you at the time! ;)
Anyway, many thanks and I'm glad you've stayed around after a less than hospitable welcome.
I would have to think that whichever company actually charged your card would be able to help even if they "aren't dealing with that site" any longer. Regardless, sorry you got jipped and I hope you get it sorted out.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-You get about 23 episodes that have been updated weekly since the end of January '07 and the video quality is decent at just over 1000k
-All episodes include two picture sets (one true digital, the other vidcaps) and a video anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes long on average
-The site has a simple but effective design and each girl gets her own page with links to the various content presented in a standard way throughout
-For under $25 a month you get this and half a dozen other network sites
Cons:
-The collection is small, but that will get better over time
-A few of the scenes were shot in 2005 while the rest were shot in 2007, which made it seem like the site was thrown together quickly
-The videos vary widely in style with some having one or two girls, POV or traditional filming, some where the guy talks and others where he doesn't, leading to a "hodgepodge" feel
-Video quality could be improved since many other sites now shoot at 2000k and you can only download vids at one speed
Bottom Line:
By now I've reviewed about half of the sites on the Bang Brothers network (otherwise known as Ox Pass) and while I haven't liked all of them, some have been decent and no one can complain about the volume of content on the network. This particular site offers some good niche content if you are a big BJ fan, but there are better options even on the same network.
The site seems to be one of the newest offered on Ox Pass since the first update was posted at the end of January from this year. In all you get 23 episodes that have been faithfully updated each week, which is also true of the network overall. One minor note is that some of the videos were filmed in 2005, including the first 3 that appeared on the site which suggested to me that they were cutting room floor material which got recycled.
Despite that, most of the material has been filmed this year and the video quality is good, although I have seen better elsewhere. The setup in each video varies quite a bit, which does break up the boring scenarios we usually get, but none of them are innovative in any way.
In the end, if you like BJ content you will probably be very happy, but if not I think you'll be disappointed. Of course I enjoy a good BJ, but here it's just an appetizer that never offers a main course. The full network access is a very nice touch, but by itself it's just average and even if this is your thing it needs some more time to grow. Maybe it'll find a style over time, but not quite yet.
No prob jd dude! I should have mentioned last time that she also has 3 scenes on other Ox Pass sites, one on BigMouthfulls, one on MrCamelToe, and the Casting site. A very Riley friendly network! ;)
I've been having a hankering for BBW sites lately, especially after having suffered through networks with mostly skinny models. Ok, saying I "suffered" is going a bit far, but let's just say I've been deprived for a little while. ;)
Anyway, I hit Gwen's lovely site today which I was particularly attracted to because of two things: First, she's hot, second, the advertised trial. While the first is very much intact, I must report that the second is not. I see no evidence of a trial and from what I can tell the price has increased to $19.95 for the first month and $16.95 for monthly rebills. :(
I've heard lately of some folks having a "cookie" problem that prevents TBP users from getting deals they should be getting and with how my computer is held together (mostly twine and gaffers tape) you never can tell when it's going haywire. So, if someone could please confirm I'd appreciate it! And damn, I hope I'm wrong!
They all add something unique to a review so I like being able to read all four, but if I was pressed to come up with a factor to put one above the rest I'd give it to Duke for giving out tougher scores and having the fewest sites scoring in the 90s.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-You get 120 episodes that feature two picture sets (one vidcaps the other true digital shots) and a video that can be chopped into 1 minute clips
-Updates are very regular since the site has added a new episode every week since April of '05
-Video quality is decent, running around 1000k for the videos and can be downloaded as a WMV or MPEG file
-You get full access to "OX Pass", otherwise known as the Bang Brothers network, with your memberships including a dozen sites for under $25 a month
Cons:
-The so called "high quality" pic sets only run around 600x800, which is hardly high res these days
-There are no zip options for the pics or vids and you have no choice in the resolution of either, so it's "one size fits all" whether you like it or not
-As with most sites on this network, there is a very stale plot in each episode that has the girl being picked up by some guys with a camera
-Besides focusing solely on ethnic girls, the site is indistinguishable from the other network sites
Bottom Line:
I've now reviewed about half a dozen sites on the Bang Brothers network and have been only marginally impressed overall. However, a lot of that is due to my personal preferences so I do encourage everyone to read on since they might like it more than I did. The site seems to serve as the main "ethnic" page for Bang Brothers in that it features only latinas, asian, and black girls. This is not "my thing" since I like a variety of girls that includes caucasians, but as part of a network I do like sites that offer something different.
That said, there isn't a whole lot that distinguishes this site from others on the network. There's a bit of an emphasis on big butt girls, but other than the ethnic theme it's very mixed in terms of assets. One nice thing is the consistency of the content quality which often suffers with older shoots, but here it's pretty even throughout.
One thing to remember with all Bang Brothers sites is that the male performers almost always wear a condom which I'm not a big fan of myself and is a big issue for some people. I'm not one to say a bad word about paracticing safe sex, but I think most of us are used to not seeing them.
Bottom line? If you like ethnic girls you'll probably love this site, but if you don't then look elsewhere. As a standalone site it's merely average, but when you include the full network access through Ox Pass it's certainly a nice add on that actually isn't very different at all from the rest of the network's sites.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-Nearly 200 episodes that include two pic sets (caps and real digital shots) and a video, usually between 10 and 20 minutes long
-Videos can be streamed in browser (WMV) and downloaded in two different formats (WMV & MPEG) with convenient dropdown menus on each girl's page
-You can choose between one long clip, divided into 4 parts, or 1 minute clips for downloading
-With your membership you get access to a dozen network sites with tons of content on a variety of niches for under $25 a month
Cons:
-Although they are described as "high quality", the digital picture sets are mostly around 600 x 800 at best while the highest resolution on the vieos is 1000k with older ones running about 500k or less
-Neither the picture sets or the videos can be downloaded as zip files and all clips are only available at one speed
-The majority of episodes are shot POV style and many don't include blowjobs, which may not appeal to everyone, and most of the girls are pornstars, not amateurs
Bottom Line:
In the handful of reviews I've done for the Bang Brothers network the most consistent aspect of the sites so far has been their inconsistency. Some have shown a bit of flare for the dramatic or done something unique, but other than offering some very average performances this site doesn't really fit those descriptions whatsoever.
There's no disputing the fact that you get a large volume of content with almost 200 episodes that have been updated weekly since 2003. In most cases there isn't much of a plot since each video only averages about 15 minutes. That's often the same amount of time for setting up the story on other network sites, but fortunately here they get to the action directly except for a few lame themes.
I'm always hopeful to find some amateur action on network sites since it's rare, but all of the girls here are pros as far as I could tell with little creativity in casting or the performances. There are some sexy girls, don't get me wrong, but I'd like to see some different faces once and awhile.
Compared to other sites on the network, I thought this one was just a bit above average since they do get right to the action. On the downside is the fact that it's so short and the scenes motly go the same way. Basically the girl comes services the cameraman, takes a cumshot in the face or on the breasts, and that's all she wrote. By itself the site doesn't really offer a full meal, but I suppose it serves as an adequate appetizer for the rest of the network.
I've noticed a bunch of people commenting or reviewing Scoreland websites lately, so I thought I'd ask a question that someone might know better than I. I have been a big fan of Desirae's for quite some time now but found out only recently that "her website" is really just Score trotting out old material they shot years ago and rotating it out after awhile. I found this out from a comment Desirae herself left on a review of the Desirae's World site saying they hadn't done any shots of her in years.
I'd love to actually find any non-Score sites that have Desirae content, but realistically I'd just like to hear if anyone knows more to her story and of this site. I love Desirae's sets except for the fact that they ALWAYS covered her belly when shooting her pic sets or videos which really turns off a belly lover like me! So, if there are any other Desirae fans out there please let yourself be known!
Thanks for the kind words apoctom dude! You can find the casting section on the main members page about halfway down on the right hand side. They literally just started having the casting videos this past May and only have six so far, but it's definitely a great feature. I wonder if they don't show the old ones because they talk about the "persona" each girl should have, but that's just speculation on my part of course. Regardless, I found that I enjoyed the scenes each girl did after watching the casting video since I had something invested in them I suppose, despite the fact that it indicates some of the scenes are totally scripted.
As for other sites, I can't remember any specifically but know I have seen the link. I never checked them out before because I didn't figure they were too exciting, but am glad I checked out the ones on Ox Pass! If I remember any (which I usually do if I don't think about it too hard) I'll let you know!
I've been reviewing the sites from OX Pass, also known as the Bang Brothers network, and I haven't been impressed with very many of the sites. However, after taking a look at the new "casting" section of the network I have found a bit of a gem. It's possible that lots of other networks have casting sections like this one, so please indulge me if that's true. I've seen others before, but none of them as interesting as this one.
I think what I like the most about the casting calls is that they aren't full of the BS that often occurs during the scenes they end up shooting for the network. In fact, I found that one of the scenes I have seen was totally a lie since in the casting call one girl mentioned how much she dislikes cumshots and prefers girls. The camera guy talked her into doing a scene for Tugjobs where she'd only have to jerk a guy off. Then, in the scene she eventually filmed, it shows her begging for the guy to cum on her since she loves it so much!
Now, some of you are undoubtedly saying, who cares? You do have a point and I will not rant on it anymore. I will say however, that I found the scenes with the girls from the casting call to be more interesting after getting to hear about them. Maybe that makes me a total sap, but so be it! Giant boobs or a great ass makes up a lot of what's sexy, but if the girl is a total jackass or isn't into her scenes I don't really care to watch in the first place.
So, if you have you OX Pass, check out the casting section!
Although it sounds cliche, the sexiest part of a woman isn't her body. That's not to say that it isn't a big part of it and usually where it starts, but it really doesn't matter if the woman isn't confident or enjoying what she's doing. I think Allie Sin is a gorgeous woman, but in all her scenes she looks sad and bored. That's a huge turn off. I like women of all shapes and sizes, but without that certain something it's just not going to do it for me.
I was going to indicate that some touch up was ok, but I voted for raw since some retouching jobs go way too far and in many instances they retouch things that I'd rather they didn't like freckles, fine lines, and even a little meat on the bones. I recently saw a retouch job on a freckled star I like (Vixen Vogel) which removed all of her "beauty marks" and did some unecessary work on her entire abs area. I don't like zits at all or scars in most cases, but I'll live with them if that's the only way to keep the elements I do like.
Ok, this is one really makes no sense to me. In the description for this one, which would have the full title of "Double Penetration Babes", it is listed at being an amateur site (see my previous comments for my feeling on this one), but the more shocking descriptor is "Soft Content". What? How can a site where a girl lets two guys penetrate her at once possibly be soft?
I gave it the benefit of the doubt figuring that someone may get off on something like that being implied and not shown, but even the tour shows the penetration without any little blurry spots to make it R rated as opposed to XXX. I understand the problem figuring out if a site is amateur, I really do. However, how can a site like this possibly be described as soft content?
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-The site offers just under 200 "episodes" going back to the middle of '03 with picture sets (vidcaps and real digital shots) included with each one
-You can download each "episode" as an MPEG or WMV files from a dropdown box in one full clip, four smaller clips, or one minute clips
-Video quality is decent at around 1000k for newer clips and 500k for older ones
-Along with membership you get full access to the Bang Brothers netowrk which includes over a dozen sites for under $25 a month
Cons:
-The older videos are really choppy with tons of edits, aren't very long, and are nearly unwatchable; even the newer stuff is far from HD quality
-The vids can't be downloaded at different speeds and the pic sets don't have any zip options
-If you don't like uncircumsized units or condoms (which seemed odd for a site focused on cocks) then you best look elsewhere
-There's nothing original here, just pornstars and amateurs who want to become pornstars with plenty of lame setups to go around
Bottom Line:
I've reviewed a few sites on the Bang Brothers network and my overall impressions have been decidely mixed. So, I wasn't sure what to expect when I reviewed this one. There were definitely some aspects I liked, but for the most part it was just more of the same.
The site has clips going back to '03 and despite one of the TBP reviews, it seems to have always updated about four times a month. Pic and vid quality is only average at best and earlier ones are downright awful. You get some amateur girls in older clips, but all the most recent girls are pros. The action is pretty run of the mill with no particular theme running through the episodes.
I will say that the male performers do a very nice job on this network's site and I actually found them funny along with the guy filming the whole thing. My only complaints are that most of them use condoms and at least half of them are uncircumsized. Condoms just take away from it for me and, although it strictly a matter of preference, but uncircumsized dudes just creep me out for some reason.
In the end, there isn't very much that distingushes this site from all the others on the network since it uses most of the same girls and some of the same guys featured elsewhere. Only the focus of the comments made by the camera guy makes it any different since here he talks endlessly about the dude's Johnson and on another site will talk about the girl's ass. The network access gives you volume, but for me this site was just average.
I might have already stated this elsewhere, but I think leaving anonymous ratings can be a good thing, especially if someone is concerned that their feedback may receive a harsh response. For me, I decided to not be anonymous from the first day it was allowed. I was nervous at first, but I think if you are fair in your comments you will ultimately be respected even if those same folks disagree with you.
I do, however, think that if you go anonymous and vote no that you should at least leave a response so teh person knows why you felt they were untrustworthy. I always ask folks to tell me why since I'm not perfect and always want to be open to honest and fair criticism, good or bad.
The only problem with the comment thing is how you would compel someone to leave a comment with a no vote. It would be hard to enforce and I think it can only be something you try to instill rather than a hard and fast rule. If someone leaves you an anonymous no vote without a comment, just ask why and see what happens. In most cases when this has happened to me the person has just changed their vote to yes when I really wanted to know what they didn't like!
I'll admit that most of my reviews are written when I've been a member of a site for less than a month, but since they are dated I know full well that I'm only providing a snapshot at that particular time. Yes, the review will eventually be outdated, but isn't that why PU will be removing reviews after a year?
As for the TBP reviews being more valid, I would actually think they are quite similar since I doubt all of them have been members of a particular site for a very long period. They do update their reviews, but only after awhile and there are plenty of sites I've reviewed that are way out of date. But with thousands of sites and 4 reviewers, isn't that just the nature of the beast and why PU exists?
All of us are "amateurs" in a sense and if I got paid to do this (which would be awesome) I'd spend even more time than I already do on each site. Short of that, no one expects any of us to be Siskel or Ebert since we all do the best we can. Right?
I was away when this poll was posted, so maybe my comment is a little late. I was definitely bothered by the anonymous trust ratings at first but now I try not to let it bother me very much. Right now I don't have any negative votes, but can tell that people changed their vote after awhile. That's probably just the nature of the beast and newer users will tend to be more harsh than people who have been around awhile.
So, I don't mind anonymous ratings since people want to feel free to say what they think without being targeted if the person being rated wasn't happy. I do think, however, that people should leave a reason for what they didn't like so that user has a chance to correct or at least address whatever was wrong. I always wrote back to people who gave me a negative rating asking why and most people changed their vote after a time. Really, I just wanted to know what I could do better since I'm not perfect and don't claim to be.
Thanks for the comments Jay. I was really on the fence here since I always have more to say, but I certainly don't think it should be unlimited. At least we get to have our say!
Great review! Was this site part of the basic membership before they added the second tier sites? If it was, I guess I'm not as observant as I thought! But this does look cool since the stars act a bit more normally.
I checked the site today and it looks like it's open for business, so I thought I'd let you know since you seemed as excited as I am. And I had to spread the love...ok, the porn. ;) I'll be joining up soon for damn sure!
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