1. As with far too many adult sites, watch out for pre-checked cross sales. At this point it seems like every adult webmaster and their brother is hell bent on trying to get money you didn't mean to spend.
2. Captcha puzzles for login are case-sensitive (LOL) and contain characters that could be either o (the letter), 0 (the number), 1 (the number), l (lower case L), or I (uppercase i). It literally took me 7 tries to get in.
Hi Scott, thanks for the reply. Looks like I was using the wrong support form, so I've retracted the support-related comments and raised the score.
I'll follow up with you via email regarding the scenes being cut short. I encounter that issue a lot more than occasionally, and in the past have been told a specific scene was fixed when it wasn't.
+ A TON of content
+ Lots of HD videos (not all, but lots)
+ Individual scenes available for most movies
Cons:
- Many, many scenes are cut in the wrong spot, meaning the last few minutes are attached to the next scene, so if you buy individual scenes, you'll be buying two at a time very often to get that last few minutes
Bottom Line:
This site is great, with one huge exception: scenes are very often cut in the wrong place, leaving the last few minutes attached to the beginning of the next scene. I usually buy individual scenes, and I often have to purchase the NEXT scene as well, to get the full scene I actually wanted.
UPDATE: I removed customer support notes from the review and raised the score; it seems there is one specific contact form that doesn't work (and another one that does). So while that's annoying, I'm not going to let that affect my review. Support is indeed perfectly reasonable aside from the one broken form. So beware: if you request a support chat after hours, you'll get a fallback email form instead; that form does not seem to get replies. The main form under "Online Inquiry" on the support page got a fast reply; use that one.
Of course every porn company has the right to set their own business model, and I of course have the right to say "that business model is absurd". All I'm saying is this kind of pricing creates a demand for piracy, as folks who are otherwise happy to pay for porn scoff at paying over $100 . I am literally just expressing amusement at the concept.
Also, I don't know anything about screen recording, but I do know it's extremely lossy.
Um... Huh. Well I don't know what you're looking at but I'm looking right now at /en/join and there are clearly only three options:
1. 3 day trial (streaming) $2.95
2. 30 days (streaming) $19.95
3. 365 days (streaming+download) $119.40
I discussed with support and they confirmed this. They did offer me a one-time code to get monthly + downloads - you may be able to do the same by complaining but I don't see anything anywhere about $25/month anything, at all. Sure it's adulttime.com you're looking at? Or maybe you have subscription from before they went over to the dark side...
I'm cracking up as I type this. If you want to download videos, you have to pay for an ENTIRE YEAR. LMAOOOOO good luck with that. When you screw over paying customers, you get pirated and I have ZERO sympathy.
AH! You are right, I left this comment on the wrong network, this was not about this network AT ALL, but about Reality Gang. I have added a followup. Thanks for the catch!
I'm not sure if there's still a daily download limit, because to be honest I haven't had the patience to download much of anything at the speeds I'm getting. If i find out I'll post another reply.
Was a member approx. 3 months prior to this review.
Pros:
+ Some AWESOME content
+ Downloadable videos with no DRM
+ Variety of niches, all of which have good content
Cons:
- Video quality is BAD
- There is a download quota, which does not seem to be documented (correct me if i'm wrong)
- All videos have the same file name (video500.wmv or something equally useless)
- WMV only
- No zipped downloads for photos
Bottom Line:
This site really does have some great content, with tons of hot girls. I'm VERY picky (though maybe in ways that don't make sense to anyone else!) so of course as with any site there are still relatively few episodes I like, but the ratio is MUCH higher than most comparable sites. Tragically, the video quality straight up sucks. It hasn't changed in quite some time. It used to be tolerable, when monitors were smaller and their competitors' video quality was comparable. But on my 22" flat screen, these videos are just not very enjoyable. Watch a clip from New Sensations, or 18Eighteen, or any of the "HD" sites, then switch to a video from one of the sites in this network. Then be sad.
I have joined and canceled this site many times. I keep hoping they'll up their video quality to keep up with the times, but it's just not happening. I have so many videos from this site on my hard drive because I love them, but I never watch them because the quality just sucks. And time after time, I re-join the site with fingers crossed, only to be frustrated and remember why I always cancel my membership. It doesn't help that all they offer is WMV, but this is pretty standard. I'm not sure why - last time I was on a PC, MPG files worked just fine - WMV on the Mac is kind of crappy and requires third-party components. I guess I'll never understand the decision so many content providers make to go with the proprietary format over the many standard formats that work everywhere. But it's not a deal-breaker, just annoying.
What is a deal-breaker is the combination of low quality video and a download limit. I understand the need to save costs on bandwidth, but the simple fact (for me anyway) is that it's not worth it to download a limited amount of badly compressed, low resolution video, no matter how great the content is. Until these issues are resolved, I have to say "tragically not worth it."
I recently got an alert that someone had tried to access my Streamate account. Since I've never even heard of Streamate I looked into this and had the account canceled. When the cancelation confirmation came through, there was a simultaneous cancelation for something called Banglive. They will not confirm this but it's clear that the Streamate/Banglive accounts were set up by Bang.com without my consent. HIGHLY RECOMMEND you do not trust this company with your payment information, as they are clearly using your data without your consent.
see also lethalhardcore.com for an example of how different account levels/options can be presented during registration flow non-deceptively (e.g. "includes downloads" vs "streaming only" etc in the description of each option, even color cues (green cta for full access, orange for limited). it's almost like they actually want their customers to make an informed decision.
Signup page is falsely advertising "full access" (at the time of writing) when in fact you must pay an extra fee to unlock 4k content. Nowhere in the signup flow is this mentioned, thus this is simply false advertising. I fought for a refund and they still tried to blame it on me somehow. But you don't find out about this until you try to watch or download 4k content. Shame they make money this way.
UPDATE: I just discovered that their older videos (the ones that are available of course, which leaves out a ton of them) are NOT in HD, yet they are still labeled as HD in both video listings and on the individual video pages. So (1) there's no way to determine at a glance which videos are in HD, since they are labeled HD regardless (making the HD label completely meaningless), and (2) basically don't expect anything from Brazzers to be true or accurate. They don't care.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Updated:
09-21-1811:43pm (Update History) Reason: Added some details, plus a followup note re: scoring logic
Pros:
* A large amount of content
* Wide variety means you will find stuff you like
* Decent quality
Cons:
* No 4k
* All content before 2010 is no longer able to stream OR download, due to a technical issue they do not seem to be addressing
* Despite six years worth of content being inaccessible, they are still advertising and charging for "full membership"
Bottom Line:
I will revisit this review once they are no longer claiming/charging for full access when SIX YEARS of content are simply not available. The pages are there, just nothing works (stream screenshot doesn't load, download button doesn't function). This has been the case for at least 4 months now, I was told there is no ETA for a fix, and was given a partial refund. They offered me up to 2 months free, but if the content I'm looking for isn't there, what's the point? Better to just stop wasting my time.
A funny detail: I was told that the older videos are "not compatible with the newer technology". This is highly disingenuous; videos don't need anything at all to be "compatible" with DOWNLOADING. That's not how downloading works.
My advice: if you can't update your site design without breaking damn near HALF of it, find a competent web developer. Stop charging full price until you fix your broken website. And meanwhile, please stop telling people the old videos are "not compatible" with downloading. You just sound dumb.
Final note: if you think my score is harsh for a site with half its content broken, please consider that it's also a review for a site that is doing nothing about it, is still charging full price for "full membership", and is giving customers complete BS answers as to what's going on. I really don't feel bad being harsh on a company that conducts its business that way. I've heard from some performers (both personally and in interviews) that they like working with Brazzers. So I really hope they get this issue resolved. Until then I cannot recommend paying for access.
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
Pros:
+ Some hot girls
+ Some girls who only have a few scenes out, always nice to find a Rebecca Lane clip i didn't know about (though in her case specifically, the scene isn't that great)
+ Full episode downloads are h.264 in an mp4 container, instead of proprietary wmv format preferred by most sites - much better experience on platforms that aren't Windows.
Cons:
- Full downloads limited to 2 per day. This apparently bumps up to 5 after a month. Too bad I'm not sticking around. The alternative is 1-minute, low quality chunks. Sweet.
- Download quality is not so great. I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, as H.264 is capable of very high quality at small sizes. The resolution is shown as 720x480, which usually looks better than this.
- Oh look, a bus driving around picking up "random" girls. Why do we need another one of these?
- The ratio of "keepers" to "skip thru & delete" is VERY low.
- Bad navigation. No links to other scenes from a specific model, no alphabetical list, no search function (despite a menu item which says "Browse and search episodes and the girls").
- Downloads often fail for me, often recorded by the system as a download, which means half my limit is used up, and I get nothing. I have a fast and reliable connection, but even if this is somehow "user error", this is one reason limiting to two per day sucks.
Bottom Line:
Well first of all, it's telling that I had to *repeatedly* edit down my list of "cons" in order to fit it in the space allotted. That's a BAD sign. Although there are a few girls on here you don't see much of elsewhere, the scenes aren't that good (in my opinion) and the video quality isn't that great either. Add to that bad navigation, unoriginal content, and a completely ridiculous download limit which is often erroneously used up after one download, this ones a no-brainer. Not worth it at all. There are just too many similar sites out there which do not have these problems to bother spending your money on this one.
I will note, at the time of this review there has been a banner up for at least a week stating that a new member's area is "coming this week." I'm not going to give them grief for not being timely, I actually know how it is to run a website! I'm only bringing this up because some of the more technical problems may be addressed by this, once it goes live. Also, I'm not sure why they have two versions of this entire network (Cezar Capone and NerdPass) but these are exactly the same, so this review applies 100% to NerdPass as well.
I'm considering joining but would like to know - as a Mac user, what are my download options? DRM'd WMV will not play on a Mac (no matter what type of license) and often I find that the alternative formats on other sites are poorly encoded.
Yeah I hear you about the HD thing. I have a large HDTV i like to watch stuff on, so I am always happy to see HD content available. The fact that they keep it streaming-only just frustrates me, I don't like paying for content I can't keep, and I think this kind of control is a losing game for the studios. I kind of just don't want to give them my money. But that's me.
As for the navigation, it does seem to have improved a bit. But after spending some more time on the site, I agree with you both - it's still pretty frustrating. It's inconsistent as you mentioned, and also i have not been able to find a way to search or browse content from all network sites. For example, if I am looking for content from a particular performer, I have to run a search on every single site. I'd much rather see something similar to Naughty America, Porn Pros, etc, where you can search by site OR you can search the whole network.
I will add that at the special rate of $9.95 available through thebestporn.com, it is still worth joining. I didn't feel that this discounted price should affect my overall rating though. If that discount is still available when you are considering signing up, I would probably still recommend it, just don't expect to come out of it *owning* any HD content.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+ Tons of content, much of which is very high quality compared to other high volume DVD sites
+ Frequent updates (seems like at least one per day usually)
+ Devil's Film studio content tends to be very high quality with good looking girls
+ Newer scenes include HD streaming content which is very nice
+ Easy cancellation. Just sayin'.
Cons:
- Download speeds are inconsistent, often just stopping, generally only for a few seconds but sometimes for long enough to time out.
- Downloads are WMV only
- Using a download manager I get a lot of 400 errors. This seems to be an issue of overzealous security, but this is not covered in their collection of 8 FAQs so who knows...
- No zips for image sets (though the image sets are pretty weak anyway and clearly not the focus)
- File names are not helpful (eg 7080_02_big.wmv), expect to rename each file if you like to keep your collection organized.
- DEALBREAKER!!! HD content is streaming only. This may not be as much of an issue for some, but for me this pretty much does it in. These control freak studios (see also: Digital Playground) need to realize that in the current market, those of us who are willing to pay for content should perhaps be accommodated, not punished by having the good stuff withheld.
Bottom Line:
If you don't care about HD content, or don't mind streaming it, this is a good choice for a variety of niches in a fairly well organized, mostly searchable format, as long as network conditions are good. Newer scenes are streamable in HD, and older scenes are still pretty good quality.
However, if like me you are looking for content that looks great on your big fancy HDTV, aren't turned on by buffering screens, and/or don't want to reward studios for trying to control piracy by simply not letting customers have what they want, you will be frustrated. Combine this with downloads that often seem to fail due to having an incorrect security key, and I get the impression that Devils Film cares more about protecting their content than providing it. As long as this is the case, I will not be coming back.
This, and apparently all Hustler sites have been rolled into hustlerunlimted.com, which is STREAMING ONLY. I was a subscriber through barelylegal.com, and they switched my sub over, so I was able to see the new members' area. Briefly, before cancelling my subscription. There does not even appear to be an upsell option, they really do seem to have just decided we can't have their movies anymore. Bummer, they will be missed.
Nope, not worth it at all. Despite what TBP says, the video downloads DO HAVE DRM.
From the video help page:
Windows Media downloads are for PC users only. Sorry this format is not compatible with Mac/Apple OS. DRM downloads are stored on your hard drive so you can download a movie and watch it later. These videos can only be viewed as long as your Hustler subscription is active. If you cancel your subscription you will no longer be able to view these movies. Windows Media Player will check for an active subscription every few days so you may have to log into the website to play the movies.
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Incidentally, I've also encountered quite a bit of "This movie is currently not available in the selected format/bandwith speed."
Agreed. That being said, I do think they are doing better than some others, and I am hopeful that more improvement will come. At least they are not going the route of studios like Digital Playground, who would rather you stream everything and download nothing...
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