This, and apparently all Hustler sites have been rolled into hustlerunlimted.com, which is STREAMING ONLY. I was a subscriber through barelylegal.com, and they switched my sub over, so I was able to see the new members' area. Briefly, before cancelling my subscription. There does not even appear to be an upsell option, they really do seem to have just decided we can't have their movies anymore. Bummer, they will be missed.
Of course every porn company has the right to set their own business model, and I of course have the right to say "that business model is absurd". All I'm saying is this kind of pricing creates a demand for piracy, as folks who are otherwise happy to pay for porn scoff at paying over $100 . I am literally just expressing amusement at the concept.
Also, I don't know anything about screen recording, but I do know it's extremely lossy.
Um... Huh. Well I don't know what you're looking at but I'm looking right now at /en/join and there are clearly only three options:
1. 3 day trial (streaming) $2.95
2. 30 days (streaming) $19.95
3. 365 days (streaming+download) $119.40
I discussed with support and they confirmed this. They did offer me a one-time code to get monthly + downloads - you may be able to do the same by complaining but I don't see anything anywhere about $25/month anything, at all. Sure it's adulttime.com you're looking at? Or maybe you have subscription from before they went over to the dark side...
I'm cracking up as I type this. If you want to download videos, you have to pay for an ENTIRE YEAR. LMAOOOOO good luck with that. When you screw over paying customers, you get pirated and I have ZERO sympathy.
Damn! I was literally just checking reviews for this network because I really wanted to go grab a few specific older videos I don't have. Was hoping to see some evidence that I wouldn't regret that but it sounds like they haven't changed a bit. The exact same thing happened to me (on this network somewhere - don't remember which site, and at Reality Kings, and at Bang.com). I don't understand how they're still getting away with this shit.
SUCH a shame to produce such good content but bury it in various schemes to rip off the people who pay for it.
I recently got an alert that someone had tried to access my Streamate account. Since I've never even heard of Streamate I looked into this and had the account canceled. When the cancelation confirmation came through, there was a simultaneous cancelation for something called Banglive. They will not confirm this but it's clear that the Streamate/Banglive accounts were set up by Bang.com without my consent. HIGHLY RECOMMEND you do not trust this company with your payment information, as they are clearly using your data without your consent.
$1 trial provides access to ONE download and ONE stream OF THE SAME VIDEO. Just to be clear, you may not download one video then stream another. Like, you know, if you were trying to sample content to decide whether to purchase. No trailers, so now that I downloaded my one scene, that's my entire sample of what the whole site has to offer.
Not terrible but def annoying. Way more annoying is that none of this is advertised in the spot where they get you to sign up, of course. Just says $1 for a day "membership". They don't bother mentioning any of this until immediately AFTER you sign up.
Of course I know there is very little honest advertising in this industry (LOL) so I checked TPB first! Unfortunately even their info does not make it clear that you are limited to a single TITLE, so just be aware.
Monthly plans DO NOT give access to VR. For VR (the entire point of the site), you will have to purchase at least 3 months at a time. Wack.
UPDATE: there is currently a special that does provide monthly VR access ($12.99 recurring at $19.99). It's advertised on Lethal Hardcore as a special for members, but it appears to be open to all, as I still see the same special when not logged in.
UPDATE: I just discovered that their older videos (the ones that are available of course, which leaves out a ton of them) are NOT in HD, yet they are still labeled as HD in both video listings and on the individual video pages. So (1) there's no way to determine at a glance which videos are in HD, since they are labeled HD regardless (making the HD label completely meaningless), and (2) basically don't expect anything from Brazzers to be true or accurate. They don't care.
see also lethalhardcore.com for an example of how different account levels/options can be presented during registration flow non-deceptively (e.g. "includes downloads" vs "streaming only" etc in the description of each option, even color cues (green cta for full access, orange for limited). it's almost like they actually want their customers to make an informed decision.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Updated:
09-21-1811:43pm (Update History) Reason: Added some details, plus a followup note re: scoring logic
Pros:
* A large amount of content
* Wide variety means you will find stuff you like
* Decent quality
Cons:
* No 4k
* All content before 2010 is no longer able to stream OR download, due to a technical issue they do not seem to be addressing
* Despite six years worth of content being inaccessible, they are still advertising and charging for "full membership"
Bottom Line:
I will revisit this review once they are no longer claiming/charging for full access when SIX YEARS of content are simply not available. The pages are there, just nothing works (stream screenshot doesn't load, download button doesn't function). This has been the case for at least 4 months now, I was told there is no ETA for a fix, and was given a partial refund. They offered me up to 2 months free, but if the content I'm looking for isn't there, what's the point? Better to just stop wasting my time.
A funny detail: I was told that the older videos are "not compatible with the newer technology". This is highly disingenuous; videos don't need anything at all to be "compatible" with DOWNLOADING. That's not how downloading works.
My advice: if you can't update your site design without breaking damn near HALF of it, find a competent web developer. Stop charging full price until you fix your broken website. And meanwhile, please stop telling people the old videos are "not compatible" with downloading. You just sound dumb.
Final note: if you think my score is harsh for a site with half its content broken, please consider that it's also a review for a site that is doing nothing about it, is still charging full price for "full membership", and is giving customers complete BS answers as to what's going on. I really don't feel bad being harsh on a company that conducts its business that way. I've heard from some performers (both personally and in interviews) that they like working with Brazzers. So I really hope they get this issue resolved. Until then I cannot recommend paying for access.
Signup page is falsely advertising "full access" (at the time of writing) when in fact you must pay an extra fee to unlock 4k content. Nowhere in the signup flow is this mentioned, thus this is simply false advertising. I fought for a refund and they still tried to blame it on me somehow. But you don't find out about this until you try to watch or download 4k content. Shame they make money this way.
I would just like to add that SegPay should NOT be trusted. They "upgraded" me to the Platinum account when my $17.95 sub renewed. They issued a refund, but they blamed it on me, even though I didn't even realize the sub was active and had not been to the site in at least a week. They also seem to just suck at their job; for example my Platinum upgrade was listed as "FantasyHD" in the confirmation email, and the charge/sub did not show up at all using their search tool. It's *almost* like they just hoped I would never notice. Almost exactly like that.
Current Member for over 2 months (at the time of review).
Pros:
* Great video quality
* Many of the models are incredibly hot
* 4k content is some of the better quality 4k I've seen
Cons:
* Confusing/misleading marketing. Different spots cite different numbers of sites included; no reliable list anywhere
* Most subscription options have become upsell vehicles for the $69.95 "Platinum" upgrade
* When my $17.95 PornProsNetwork subscription renewed, they went ahead and charged me for the "Platinum" upgrade. THIS IS KNOWN AS FRAUD.
* Site navigation is terrible: sometimes shows locks on content you actually have access to, and vice-versa. Easy to visit the wrong site and suddenly NOT HAVE ANY ACCESS TO ANYTHING.
* At this time, with an ACTIVE subscription, the site says "Reactivate Membership" and I have "4 previews remaining"
* Site is basically a joke at this point.
Bottom Line:
This is going to be a very harsh review. A very well deserved harsh review.
This site has basically become garbage, borderline scammy, and possibly fraudulent. I don't know their relationship with SegPay so maybe the fraud part is on SegPay.
More about that: when my $17.95 subscription renewed (incidentally only because I'd forgotten to cancel; it's arguably not even worth $17.95 at this point), it also charged me for the "Platinum" susbcription. Their support rep stated that thi was probably because I had clicked one of the huge upsell ads, which apparently will not ask for confirmation? The problem with that theory is that I hadn't even been to the site in days, maybe weeks, because I didn't realize I was still subscribed. So, there seem to be three possibilities: 1. someone got into my account and upgraded it on the exact day that my subscription was renewed, 2. Segpay fraudulently charged me for something I didn't want, 3. Segpay charged me in error due to some defect in their payment system. So basically either PornPros' security sucks, Segpay is engaging in fraud, or Segpay can't handle the one function they provide.
Given the combination of all these things, it seems to me like at this point, PornPros is trying to be as scammy as possible without actually breaking any laws (aside from maybe some minor false advertisement), and Segpay just doesn't really have that limitation.
Also worth noting: I reached out to their customer support to ask exactly what sites are included with membership. Never got a response, and when I tried to follow a link to my "ticket" it was just a page saying "PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE YOU CANCEL" followed by a lengthy screed warning that they've "seen an increase" in "fraud" where paying customers deny ever subscribing, and that this is "a felony punishable by jail time". So basically accusing you of fraud if you want to cancel, while simultaneously defrauding customers in precisely a way that would lead them to this page. It's really quite... something.
Then a link to SegPay, and no sign of a support ticket anywhere.
Regarding quality: video quality, strictly speaking, is fantastic. Their 4k content is some of the highest quality in the adult market, at least that I've seen. Lighting tends to be nice and bright, there's usually a variety of angles etc (obviously not for POV sites etc but generally speaking). Within each site, the episodes tend to be EXACTLY the same, and often pretty boring in terms of just being a procession of cuts between positions and angles. This is a minor annoyance that's made up for by the quality.
As I wrote this review, I mysteriously lost access to any content. It says my subscription is expired: this is false. This site is utter garbage and really needs to just go bankrupt and get it over with.
All of the shadiness is a true shame because some of the content is very, very good. If they would back off trying to just rip everyone off, and start focusing on making money by making great content (and a site that actually works), they could totally do so. The content is already there. It's just that they'd apparently rather you get it somewhere else.
1. As with far too many adult sites, watch out for pre-checked cross sales. At this point it seems like every adult webmaster and their brother is hell bent on trying to get money you didn't mean to spend.
2. Captcha puzzles for login are case-sensitive (LOL) and contain characters that could be either o (the letter), 0 (the number), 1 (the number), l (lower case L), or I (uppercase i). It literally took me 7 tries to get in.
I've been member off and on a bunch of times, always been love/hate but never truly scammy. But recently I was charged about $60 for no apparent reason by their billing processor/customer victimizer. Investigating, here's what I found: I had been opted into a "sister site" called rkcams.com. I've come to be fairly distrustful of RK by now so I always closely examine every screen when signing up, for the dreaded pre-checked cross-sales. I don't believe that's what this was, I think they just created an account without my consent. And without sending me any sort of confirmation email, info, etc. Just a liability in my name, putting me at risk. Like those fake Wells Fargo accounts but with naked ladies.
In any case, at some point, someone (not me) ran up $60 in minutes (or whatever). I had to make multiple phone calls and the final call to rkcams support sounded like someone sitting in her apartment. Wasn't too difficult to get a refund, but (a) it did take some arguing (b) obviously I shouldn't have to deal with this at all (c) the accounts at rkcams are obviously not secure and yet somehow have my debit card on file, and (d) all of this is at best laughably unprofessional and at worst an actual scam. I couldn't get much info about how this person was able to use my card. E.g. can they see my card data? or is it just pre-authorized for a site they signed me up for without my consent? So I'm going to have to cancel my card now, too. The woman I spoke with basically seemed like "yeah you ran up a bunch of minutes and now you want a refund. ugh, fine." At every stage, an absolute refusal to even acknowledge the possibility that someone else had done this and I wasn't lying.
It's such a shame, but at this point my advice is to steer WELL clear. Not because the content is no good (it's some of the best). Not because the site is difficult or lacking in features (no complaints there). Not because I had a hard time with customer support (ok that one is somewhat true). My advice is to steer clear because the company appears to have no scruples at this point, and you will be putting yourself at risk that you may not even realize. Like what other info did they just give away?
If they ever go under from piracy, I might go under from pointing and laughing.
The overlay ads on pages are bad enough; now there are overlay ads on streaming videos that you have to click to dismiss. They don't even come up when you first play, but later, so you're in the middle of watching and all the sudden there's this obnoxious ad in your way. Whose idea was it to antagonize paying subscribers? LOL
Just a word of warning that this site uses pre-checked cross sales tucked away in small type. I really wish these sites would focus on getting our money via a strong product, instead of hoping we don't notice that they're stealing it from us. Sleazetastic.
I finally got in and it's a mess in there. Gave up on trying to get the scenes I was after because the site is so busted. It really does just seem like no one is maintaining it. Got a full refund. See my current review for details. Such a shame, I hope they get it together!
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+ Some good videos (in theory, if you an get to them)
Cons:
- Search is pretty bad. Fails to return results I can get by searching the same terms with Google using the site:ztod.com operator
- Internal links (e.g. DVD titles) often return 404 error
- 404 also invited its friends 500 server error and gateway timeout error, and they've pretty much taken over the site
Bottom Line:
I had trouble signing up to begin with - the primary payment processor produces a blank screen. Probably should have stopped trying when their support dept failed to respond (for weeks). Secondary processor finally worked, couldn't say what the combination of steps were that finally got me there. The design is nice, the navigation features are great (or would be, if they worked). It's basically like a nice, decently full-featured mid-level sports car that's been left to rust. Looks nice til you try to drive it.
I should note that I've been a member in the past and, while it wasn't without problems, it wasn't nearly this bad. Today it's garbage. Sadly, I'd have to characterize this as either a zombie site still collecting subscriptions but not being maintained (if I'm feeling charitable) or basically a scam (if I'm not).
Fortunately I was able to easily get a full refund from Segpay.
Unless/until the site administrators get it together, or hand it off to someone who can, this site is dead.
Hi Scott, thanks for the reply. Looks like I was using the wrong support form, so I've retracted the support-related comments and raised the score.
I'll follow up with you via email regarding the scenes being cut short. I encounter that issue a lot more than occasionally, and in the past have been told a specific scene was fixed when it wasn't.
For the record, I do not have this issue at all. Maybe they've improved, maybe you got unlucky when you tried. But just so other folks know; I just downloaded a 2.77GB scene in roughly 2 minutes, speed hovered right around 10–12MB/s for most of that. And in general, I've had really fast downloads since rejoining a month or so ago.
Current Member for over 1 year (at the time of review).
Pros:
+ A huge amount of content, all exclusive to New Sensations / Digital Sin
+ Quality on newer videos is excellent
+ Many improvements over the years
Cons:
Only minor negatives:
- Search is not great
- Video formats are confusing and weird
- No 4k content
Bottom Line:
I've been a member off and on over the years, and written both good and bad reviews. I have to say, there have been many improvements and this site is top notch.
Search doesn't always work well; sometimes I'll search for a model, get only one scene as a result, then click through to that scene, click on her name, and then see a list of scenes. Not sure what's up with that but makes me wonder if I'm missing out on content from my favorite models.
There's some weirdness with video formats. Newer scenes are available as MP4 only (which is perfect as far as I'm concerned), in 720p or 1080p, each of which has further options for bitrate. Seems a little like overkill, but I won't complain about too many options. Where it starts to get weird is on older scenes. Many are available in multiple resolutions, multiple bitrates, and multiple formats (MP4, FLV). Since they aren't very consistent, sometimes you just have to download a few and pick the best one. Also, older content that has 1080p downloads appears to just be upsampled from lower resolutions. Slightly blurry, with a tiny bit of discoloration around edges. Occasionally I will find a better quality version of the same scene on a different site like Videosz or Videobox. Seems to me like this site should have the canonical best version of their own content.
I would love to see some 4k content. Other sites are starting to do this, and I feel like this studio would be perfect for it. I didn't let this affect my score, as not many sites have 4k yet.
Bottom line: the site has drastically improved in the past year or so; I've even noticed improvements in the past couple months. Content quality is great, but like most sites, once you go back to older scenes it gets kind of hit or miss. Navigation is MUCH better than it used to be, but search could still use some tweaking. Can't wait to see them upgrade to 4k. All in all, a great site that's getting better.
+ A TON of content
+ Lots of HD videos (not all, but lots)
+ Individual scenes available for most movies
Cons:
- Many, many scenes are cut in the wrong spot, meaning the last few minutes are attached to the next scene, so if you buy individual scenes, you'll be buying two at a time very often to get that last few minutes
Bottom Line:
This site is great, with one huge exception: scenes are very often cut in the wrong place, leaving the last few minutes attached to the beginning of the next scene. I usually buy individual scenes, and I often have to purchase the NEXT scene as well, to get the full scene I actually wanted.
UPDATE: I removed customer support notes from the review and raised the score; it seems there is one specific contact form that doesn't work (and another one that does). So while that's annoying, I'm not going to let that affect my review. Support is indeed perfectly reasonable aside from the one broken form. So beware: if you request a support chat after hours, you'll get a fallback email form instead; that form does not seem to get replies. The main form under "Online Inquiry" on the support page got a fast reply; use that one.
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