Sorry for jumping in on this heated discussion late, but I really don't buy the excuse of no zips prevent piracy, especially given the fact that you say most people interested in your site just want videos.
Fact of the matter is, there are lots of image downloading packages available that can find all links on a thumbnail page and download them, I have never been a member of your site, so can't verify that any of these would work, but given that you state the images are linked on individual pages, I would assume they would), so it would not make site ripping that much more difficult. I think most sites that don't offer zips do so to try to get photo fans to hang around longer to dig through it all (Club Seventeen did this as well, and I am almost certain that is the reason). Policies like this punish paying subscribers, to get at pirates, and I doubt are all that successful (I doubt most pirates would have ever been paying customers anyway).
I can see how self-shot stuff would be difficult to edit and you wouldn't have control over the quality of the camerawork, and I understand that is the style of the site. I know the definition of amateur is pretty loose, but many of the girls on this site have been on several (more professionally shot) sites, so I probably wouldn't classify them purely as such. The niche of the site is self-shot, so it is always going to have sketchy camerawork, and that is probably fine for some folks out there (just not for me). I did like some other sites on this network, however.
It is interesting content, it is just a bit frustrating to download a scene that is basically home videos for 50 minutes, and like 10 minutes of poorly shot, poorly lit sex or nudity. I like the concept as well, they just didn't execute.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-attractive euro ladies
-chance to see the models acting naturally (although this can also be a con)
-download managers work
-no DRM
-decent network content
-video quality is pretty decent - SD DivX mpeg4, some scenes have iPod m4v vids as well
-decent sized site, only 32 couples but each one typically has 7-10 scenes
-zip downloads of photos
-original content, including some ladies i haven't seen before
-subtitled
Cons:
-sort of expensive
-camerawork is poor, although this is to be expected since it all does appear to be truly "self-shot"
-only two connections allowed, so if you have two downloads going (even in a manager), can't browse site
-videos are excessively long. i like seeing some natural stuff, but a 60 minute video with 10 minutes of posing and 15 minutes of sex seems like a lot of extra material
-navigation is odd
-in-browser flash player is very glitchy, normally this wouldn't bother me but it is actually very important when the files are this large (to preview so you know what you will get)
-photo quality is poor
-download speeds inconsistent (600 KB/sec was the best I experienced)
-files are too big, 1 GB or more, given what you get
-sort of expensive
-photo quality is poor, incomplete, and often out of order in the zips
Bottom Line:
This site has an interesting concept, and they do get some very attractive ladies. There are definitely some Euro pros here, but there were a few women I hadn't seen before, but maybe I just haven't been looking enough. The content is very inconsistent, and while the website can't be held responsible for the quality of the videography on self-shot scenes, they certainly could EDIT! cut out some of the camera jostling, and a good bit of the banter. I enjoy seeing the models act somewhat naturally, however this is a bit excessive.
You can see they definitely tried to make navigation better, adding keywords, a model index, and many other useful things, however if they are going to post these long-ass videos, probably the most important thing they could have included is the ability to edit the videos yourself before downloading.
They certainly have found a nice collection of attractive euro women, and it is very nice that they provided subtitles (I am one that is interested in what they are saying, I'm sure others might not care), howeve the execution is miserable. There are some scenes here that I will definitely keep, and there are many others that I might consider keeping if only the files were smaller, or the videos were better edited.
Based upon all these faults it is a difficult site to recommend, even though I somewhat liked the site.
Interesting site concept, and many of the models are quite attractive. However, this site has far too many drawbacks. The scenes are very large, and very long, with a lot of filler. I'm one that likes plot and buildup, but this place takes it a bit far. Also, download speeds have been horrible so far - which just adds to the excessively long scene problem.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-some very attractive, i believe euro ladies
-no DRM
-download managers work
-zip downloads of photosets
-photo quality is good (3000x2000)
-video quality is good (1280x720, 8000 kbps was the best i saw)
-content appears to be exclusive
Cons:
-expensive
-only 43 scenes at the time of this review
-some scenes are a little odd, there are a few where there are like 4 small scenes within the one video
-download speeds are inconsitent
-many scenes are in parts, usually 2
-wmv is only video option i saw
-no real update schedule
-navigation is poor - no model index, search, etc. just a list of scenes
Bottom Line:
As a bonus site, this site is pretty decent, however if you were ever to join it as a standalone, I don't see the value. while there is some decent material here, especially if you are a fan of 1 guy with 2 or more girls, it just has too many cons to make it worth it, not to mention the size and price of the site.
I did find many of the scenes to be pretty good, the camerawork is generally better than usual and the video quality is reasonably crisp. There are definitely some scenes here that I will add to my favorites.
The content appears to be original from what I can tell, and they do have some models I haven't seen anywhere else (they have probably worked for other sites, but I haven't seen them).
Overall, an okay site as a bonus for joining oldje, but if this deal ever goes away I would probably not join unless they drop the price and/or increase the size of the site.
It was not regional pricing (it was not $19.95, it was 19.95 euro regardless of location).
I don't know that it is all old stuff, there is material by pinky june, little caprice, and others shown, so it must be at least somewhat new (perhaps just old, not old old old ;) )
DTA works as a download manager here, but since you can generally only get one connection at a time it is sort of a nuisance, plus logins do timeout after a while.
What I found worked best was to use DTA and pause it until you had a bunch of crap queued up and then let it run and check every now and again. Would be nice if they allowed more than one connection though.
Well, they have them now, but only going back to about June 2009, which is a fair amount of material I suppose, but it'd be nice if they zipped everything.
Yeah, my earlier reviews are perhaps not quite so wordy, and perhaps a little less informative - been trying to improve. I will say based on the most recent review for this site, that it might be worth looking into whether or not they have made any reasonable improvements. I think the content was good, just difficult to get at.
I think the main reason this site gets low scores (or at least why I gave it a low score) is poor navigation and no zips of photo sets. Also, when I was a member you only got access to "samples" of DVDs - not the full scenes.
I just found it irritating to save each photo one at a time, and since there were next to no videos at the time I was a member, the site was kind of worthless to me.
Obviously some things have changed, perhaps it has gotten better? Do they have zips of photosets now? Can you search by model in the DVDs?
True, I also have a hard time giving sites scores, especially sites that have some good content that is hard to get at. I certainly am not one that believes my scores are written in stone.
I think a score in the 70s is an acceptable score for this site. like has been said there are a lot of attractive women to be found here in original content. while some content is outdated, it isn't a terrible site. i have certainly seen worse... like i said in the review, if you have time to dig through it, there is some good content to be found.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
Very attractive models
Lots of variety
Good if you like young/european models
Decent picture resolution
Very large collection
Cons:
Very limited video, need to join an additional site to download full video
No zips
Extraordinarily poor organization, picture names are terrible and not in order, hard to keep track
Server seems relatively slow
Expensive
Bottom Line:
Probably not worth it unless you have a lot of spare time to search through all of the photosets and save (and probably rename) all of the pictures you like.
Great selection and very beautiful women, but hard to recommend given the limited video content and expense.
That's too bad, man. Good of you to point this out for everyone, I certainly have a habit of cancelling almost immediately upon joining unless I plan on keeping the membership for more than one month.
I don't know that their content is all that old, I downloaded some videos with Sonia Red in them when I was a member, so unless it wasn't exclusive I think they were still making material into the aughts. Either way, I agree that they don't seem to be making any new material.
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
*Great variety of content
*Attractive models of all ages, shapes, and sizes
*I believe all of their content is exlusive, although they have released some of it to dvd.
*Good classic videos and classic pictures. The quality wasn't great, but considering the era the content is from I found it pretty good (see below for tech. details)
*Decent download speeds
*Download managers work, although getting to the section to download a video scene can be a bit troublesome - see cons.
*Great for any fan of ladies with actual bush
Cons:
*Zips only downloadable if you are a "VIP" which requires a multiple month membership.
*Photo quality is typically pretty poor - 760x540 or so seems pretty typical.
*Video quality is mediocre and in .mov format (720x580 1700 kbps was the best I saw)
*Aweful, aweful navigation. Some of the worst I have seen. The "theatre" section is reminiscent of seventeenvideo's video section. One very small thumb on the right of a random scene in the video (not even always a good view of the model)
*They have an integrated movie player, so you have to load the scene in order to download it - similar to MrSkin, however no matter which browser I used I was unable to "seek" in the video. Maybe it is a Win 7 problem, dunno.
*They recycle content, as is mentioned in the comments section. I'm not sure how much of the "new" material is all that new. I sort of doubt any of it is. One of the videos I downloaded from that section is of a model that left the business in 2003.
Bottom Line:
*I know I have a lot of cons, but I think this site is actually pretty good. If you are a fan of Anna, Gigi, Vivian Schmitt or older "classic material" it might be worth joining for a month.
*It is unfortunate that you have to get a multi-month membership in order to download zips. And that navigation and video downloading is so painful. If you join, and want to get your money's worth, I would expect to spend a lot of time digging through the material. When I was looking for videos, I would play video games and look at the videos while waiting for the games to load, since I couldn't seek in the videos I had to wait sometimes a couple of minutes with the video running to find out who was in the scene.
*The site is mostly hardcore with some lesbian.
The best thing about the site, in my opinion, is the wide variety of content. They have content ranging from the old Amsterdam peep shows (1960s or 70s I think) all the way up to the 2000s.
*I must say some of the older material does make one a bit nervous about the models ages, even though the site says it is fully 2257 compliant, you sort of wonder how that can be proven for material produced in the 70s?
If they fixed some of the navagation problems, posted all their content instead of cylcing it, and got rid of the whole "VIP" membership thing I would probably give it a much higher score.
I agree zips are sort of a big deal, and I am slightly dubious of the webmasters claim that not offering them prevents the illegal distribution of their material.
That's a lot of new (high) scores for this place. Considering some of the cons these folks list the reviews may be honest (not sure that the scores are fair).
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