I was a member in 2014 and rejoined a few days ago. The price was right at $15. However, much to my chagrin, I've come across a number of supposedly recent videos (2016) that I downloaded in 2014. Shame shame shame.
I didn't see it stated on the site and I found out after 24 HD downloads that I reached the daily limit. Had I known that I never would have joined. Fortunately, after a heated discussion, II was able to get them (Epoch) to give me a refund.
Based on the review or comment, I figured I'd try the site since there is a filter for uncensored. There is indeed a filter but it doesn't work! Or maybe these gents (or dames) have a different idea of the meaning of censorship. I contacted the biller, Epoch. At first, they told me to take it up with the site. I told them baloney, which it is... don't ever let a provider get away with saying that ... and I was gonna contact my bank to get a chargeback. They immediately refunded my money, like within 20 seconds.
I honestly don't know how anyone can enjoy a censored porn film but to each his own.
[Reminder to self: read my own dang comments before shelling out sheckles!]
[This is an edit]: if you decide to join the site which I don't recommend, I suggest being very careful about cross checks. I normally am but apparently I missed one, or so they say. I was charged $31.87 for tainster. I don't even know how to access tainster. They refunded my money after I threatened to dispute the charge. [End of edit.]
I joined for the third time, once a year for the past 3 years. It will likely be my last, though I said that last time. But I was a sucker for the low price, 10 euros.
Between Tangub and Standard's reviews, I think they have the site pretty well covered. Hence, I'll spare you a repetitious review. The site is ho hum, so-so, lacking in imagination and it has become tedious. Nothing changes. As has been pointed out, most of the videos are not exclusive either.
What irks me the most though, is their idiotic file naming system, or lack thereof. It's the lamest I've come across. You'd think they'd fix it after all the complaints.
Next up and I don't know if it's me but it happened with 2 browsers... downloading videos after the first page - after clicking download, then the back button to download the next one, takes me back to the first page. So then I have to go back to the page I was on. Too much work and I gave up.
Last, it was seemingly easy enough to cancel. The problem is, there's no confirmation email. I ended up taking a screenshot of the cancellation page just in case.
If you don't care about such stuff though, on the plus side there's loads of content and you can fill you your hard drive to your heart's content.
I feel better. I got my gripe of the day off my chest. ;)
I'll just add a few things to what's been said. My comments refer to the videos.
The girls are mostly hot, mostly from Holland I think. No overblown acting, tatoos or gonzo type videos for the most part. We're not in the San Fernando valley any more, thankst gawd. However, make no mistake, this is hardcore with a number of anal scenes and threesomes.
The technicalities... there's about 800 videos on the site, some fairly recent and none totally ancient. The recent ones have VG good quality at 1080p. The vast majority though are 540p. As with virtually every site I joined, there's not a helluvalot of variety in the scenes and direction. But it's not so tedious to make it a total turn off.
Willard pointed out some of the flaws. Searching, etc. My biggest complaint, which really isn't that BIG, is having to log in constantly and losing your place. That could be a real bummer if you're on page 50 of 100... you have to take the slow way back which can be tedious. However, the site sometimes allowed me to stay logged in without any use for a few hours.
As pointed out in my previous comment/problem, complaints are addressed and there are real people manning the site. I'd give it 85 or so.
It's so tiring that seemingly a majority of sites try to rip you off in one way or another. I joined 17 with my credit card card and simply got a page that said "Error." Having learned my lesson from another site, I did nothing. Lo and behold, the next day I was emailed my login and my card was charged. Since this kind of thing has happened more than once or twice, I have to think it's intentional and they're trying to get you to pay twice.
As stated in the previous post, customer support is lacking or, in my case, non-existent. I followed the instructions to cancel (my recurring subscription) and got error messages. An email got no response. Again, I learned my lesson the hard way. Some sites make it as difficult as possible to cancel. However, the fix comes by contacting (and threatening a chargeback if necessary) the credit card processor.
It's too early for a review. I'm still on the Club Seventeen site downloading videos. However, the quality went from good for the first dozen or so videos to fair - I'm about half way through. The quality as stated at the beginning was 1080p and now it's 540p or 720p. And the latter are from 2013.
I received an email offering 75% off. Off what? The offer didn't say. I was a member in the past - not to get into the nitty gritty, but the site was mostly a BIG yawn. But I thought if the price was cheap enough, I would join again for a month.
I entered the site only to find the monthly price was $39.95. I couldn't exit fast enough. I replied to the email offer I received asking about the discount. As it turns out, the discount is on a yearly membership - it's $119.40 or about $10/mo. You can download all the decent stuff in a matter of days! Anyway, doing the arithmetic, if that price reflects a 75% discount, the non-discounted price would be $477.60 or $40/mo!!
Really, I don't know why PU even lists it. If it didn't, I wouldn't have thrown away my money. After all, it hasn't been reviewed in years. But I stupidly assumed that since it was listed it must be ok.
I can't give a full review because all I did was download 5 videos, the newest of which was from 2011. None would play in VLS, a problem I never had before. I managed to find a way to watch them and couldn't bear watching more than a few minutes. The worst quality I have ever encountered. It would flunk as a free site.
I wrote several messages to them on Thursday or Friday. Two were to cancel. No response. Another one was to ask if the site was really as horrible as it seemed or if I might be missing something. I also mentioned I was a PU member and would be writing about my experience and I really wanted to get it right. No response.
PU gods, please take another look at this site to see if you want to continue to list it.
Since the TBP review indicated full access with the trial, I figured what the heck for $1.48. Money well spent but it's not full access. I don't know if there's a download limit with the trial or some other limitation, but I was only able to DL 19 of the 74 videos. Strangely, I'd get a message sometimes after clicking the download button, "forbidden." Then I'd try again and it worked. I got up to page 5 out of 7 and it got too frustrating so I quit. Can't complain though at less than 8 cents a scene. I might have joined if I was offered a discount when I went to cancel but I wasn't. It didn't feel right spending $27 to get the rest of the 55 videos.
Edit - I discovered the limitation does indeed involve a download limit but not that bad. It seems that I can download 3 scenes then have to wait 5 or 10 minutes to download another 3 scenes and so on.
I was looking for something a little off the beaten path. This site fits that criteria, but not in a good way. Many of the videos are dated. I'd say half of them are unwatchable (to me) due to poor quality. It's a real hodgepodge... western videos mixed with Asian. However, the Asians are primarily US Asians along with all the negative American characteristics, i.e., tatoos, fake tits, fake moaning, etc. There's a good video here and there but not worth the trouble.
Sorry, I'm too lazy to add the following comment to all the sites in their network - Japan HDV,AV Idolz, JAV HQ, My Cute Asian, Asians Bondage, Brutal Asia, Teen Thais. However, the following warning applies to all of them. And further apologies for all of the following minutiae - you can skip the gory details and go to the end if you like.
Japan HDV uses 3 credit card processors, Epoch, SegPay and JAVBill. I used Epoch to initially join with a trial membership with no problem. I also cancelled the membership immediately, a habit which in retrospect, was a mistake since I decided to opt for a monthly membership after the trial. The cancellation was no problem and the transactions with Epoch, as usual, were painless.
The problems began when I tried to rejoin when the trial ended. I made 2 mistakes in doing so. I inadvertently rejoined using the trial membership option again. And I used JAVBill instead of Epoch. My brain must have taken a temporary hiatus. The transaction went through but I couldn't access the site. I could not reach support at Japan HDV for assistance. JAVBill could not provide technical assistance.
I figured heck, it's only $4.95 and I was going to let it go and chalk it up to stupidity. So, I tried again. I rejoined properly using the monthly membership option. However, brain time out number 2! I used SegPay instead of Epoch. Jeez! Actually, I've used SegPay before and didn't have a problem. However, I had the same problem with logging in. I contacted SegPay and they promised to issue a refund. Never happened. However, for whatever reason, the next day my login worked.
But, I was still overcharged $4.95 + $29.95. I'm not sure which credit card processor owes me a refund of $29.95 but JAVBill owes me the refund of $4.95.
Sorry for all the minutiae and you probably don't care about the details. The bottom line is JAVBill is a PITA to deal with and I will forever avoid them. And SegPay is no Epoch in terms of ease to deal with. Support from the site itself was non-existent.
I joined based on exotics4me's review. His review is both comprehensive and accurate; hence I will only make a few comments instead of adding another review.
The site is playful and in a sense, offbeat. As exotics said, it is not meant for those who want cookie-cutter gorgeous 18-year olds. My personal taste differs and most of the models were not my type. They were a bit older, hardcore and flaunted way too many tattoos for my taste. On the other side of the coin and as exotics intimated, the acting was more realistic than most other sites.
The huge negative for me is that there are apparently download limits. At least that was my experience using 2 computers and different browsers. I could only download x amount of data within a given time. This serves no purpose except to make downloading frustrating. I found this surprising since in most other respects, the site is very user friendly.
I went to join and clicked the option for $29.95 recurring. I was brought to the billing page (ccbill) and I input my info and then realized the option was changed to $39.95 non-recurring in the drop down. I clicked the drop down to opt for the $29.95 deal (if you wanna call it that) and it wasn't there. There were only 2 options: $39.95 or $59.95 for 30 or 180 days non-recurring. How could this not be deliberate? I wrote to ccbill to complain.
Edit: I received a response to my email. The site is included in a package for $19.95. I signed up and am now a happy pervert.
Hopefully we're all paying attention when joining any porn site for cross-sells. NS has brought this despicable practice to a new low. If one is not paying close attention and only reads the few words of the following, you'll simply think it's a disclaimer that you're agreeing to purchase porno on the NS site and get taken for a ride...
"I agree to the purchase of adult-oriented material and would like to take advantage of the following promotional offer: $2.95 two-day Trial membership *** to nspremium.com which contains the largest library of videos on the web available for download."
The site has sort of been on my radar but I've been turned off by some of the negative comments. I received a 50% off offer today and was gonna take the plunge. However, that translated to $19.95 while their non-discounted rate is $29.95. My abacus has a hard time equating that to 50%. If the webmaster wants to chime in here, explain the discrepancy and offer a true 50% off, I'll reconsider.
I was always curious about Premium, though not curious enough to really investigate, until now. I previously assumed that it was a streaming site and no downloads available. I was surprised to hear that downloads were available in the past and to a questionable extent, they're still available (per Mort's review).
According to a short description on the site, the advantages of Premium are no ads, better buffering and better quality. If those are the only advantages, I'm not interested. The buffering and quality isn't so bad now and I can live with ads. I wonder if I'm missing something. Anyone?
[Mort commented about the dumb comment made by a rep from PH. In my investigation of Premium vs. Free, I saw a comment on their board forum about this subject - someone inquired about this very topic and the reply was to go to the site for the answer. Jeez, it would have been simple enough to answer on the board.]
Based on privateclassics.com, I joined. After reading the recent well-written and informative reviews, I didn't think I would find what I was looking for but I took the chance. I didn't find the rainbow I was looking for. It's such a shame.. I thought privateclassics.com was among the more unique and interesting sites I've encountered. Pierre Woodman this is not! The scenes are so similar that after 20 minutes I was bored to death. I'm now inspired to find a modern day Pierre Woodman.
This is regarding thirdworldxxx.com – not to be confused with their VOD site. Very weird site and I find it difficult to recommend. It seems to exist primarily to sell DVDs (from $10 to $30). I joined for the downloads, though the downloads seems to be secondary. When you click on a DVD, many times there are scenes available for download. However, there’s no way to know until you click on the DVD if there are any downloadable scenes. I found this a waste of time. There is seemingly no order to the manner that DVDs are listed. Shemales, trannys, ladyboys, Asian, etc., are all lumped together. Date released seems to be irrelevant. There is no menu or searching feature to separate the DVDs by category.
The worst part is, the scenes / DVDs are not exclusive… or at least I recognized many of the scenes from other sites. Strange because third world is a studio I believe. Many DVDs are ancient. They are dated but I'd bet anything they were recycled with a new date. I know because I recognize scenes that I acquired long ago.
I emailed with support about these issues. I did get a response but my questions about exclusivity, searching, etc., went unanswered.
While I find some of their practices borderline unethical, It’s not a horrible site for downloads and streaming.
I'm happy to say they changed course again and offer downloads, not just streaming. I rejoined as a result after several years. However, it appears their downloads are only 480p, at least the first 2 I downloaded. No options, only mp4 in 480p which is unacceptable in this day and age and unacceptable for me. Streaming is 1080 so I guess I'll be streaming for a month and then write these guys off.
This was one of my favorite sites. It's too bad that they changed to a streaming site only, no more downloads. They have their reasons, the primary one being (as per them), to protect the women. My beef is that the PPV only is not stated anywhere before you join. They have excellent customer service and I was easily able to get my money back, but still.
If you don't mind PPV, then this site is worth it.
A first for me - the first and only site I got banned from. I disputed (and won) getting charged full price for pre-checked cross-sells - 2 of them. But I'm back in good graces and joined after what was probably a 3-year absence.
I'm surprised the poor site navigation issues haven't come up. The major navigation issue is getting taken back to the home page every time you click to go back. A real pita.
Other than the above, the content is excellent and well worth the hefty price of admission.
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