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05-11-11  10:31am - 4974 days #133
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I would still love my sites to do some work with VillageLadies but the webmaster there still appears to ignore me. Does he ever post here or on any other forums?

I think a cross between A-M-O-C.com and VillageLadies could potentially suit you, Cap'n?


I am not the Cap'n, Ed, just wanted to add a comment.

The Village Ladies concept is so simple: take women who look quite ordinary, who are at an age that is considered a bit past (porn) prime and have them slowly undress until they are naked.

The thrill is in the fact that they look so much like everyone's neighbor, a neighbor who would not ever, in a million years, consider stripping publicly for anyone! Yet there they are!

The ideal site for me would be quite softcore, containing basically the above mentioned ordinary models undressing .. hopefully, for my sake, while wearing vintage lingerie .. until naked.

In order to gain more customers you (or anyone who starts a site like that) could even add some attractive models that jump the "ordinary" mold as long as they are not the glamorous porn star type.

What VL is lacking is loving dedication to the site. The photo sets cannot be zipped, most of them are in a much smaller format than the modern porn user wants and the webmaster is a surly person whose attitude is take it or leave it. I am talking from experience!

Just thought I'd sum the subject up a bit because I realized that the term "strip tease" could also mean some hot model slithering down a pole!

PS. And no I have never seen the VL webmaster responding in this site.

05-09-11  03:43pm - 4976 days #13
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Originally Posted by mr smut:


That is true as AO30 seems to be their "baby" and they really put lots of effort into this site constantly trying to improve it.

Cheers,
Smut


I still wish their photographers made more of an effort to put some underwear on their models! That would definitely improve the site for me. Tobie also made an awful mess of things with your favorite model, Andie, last time he shot her, don't you think? I really wish they had put her into someone else's hands. And yes I like her, too. I have all kinds of her sets on my hard drive.

05-08-11  10:13am - 4977 days #10
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Originally Posted by EverlastingEdge:


Naughty America's My friends hot mom and first sex teacher use to be the best hands down when it first started out. Unfortunately they've got new owners who is obsessed with fake boobs and only actresses are matures with ridiculous fake boobs that ruin it now. Out of 10 updates you'll find only 3 with natural breasts

Still in the archives they've got some classic older women scenes with naturals boobs.

I really don't get how the obsessed with fake plastic pornsters it just ruins it. Especially considering that not many truly mature housewives get boob jobs in real life.


Amen to the above, brother! The fake boobs drove me away after one month and will keep me away until they change their policy.

05-08-11  10:11am - 4977 days #9
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Originally Posted by Advent:


I agree for an over 30 site, Anilos and All Over 30 are the best. I feature both of them on our hairy site because I love the models they have and they are some really nice guys to work with.


I agree about the "nice guys" on both sites, Advent. In the case of All Over Thirty I had a disagreement with Mrs. Crazies in their Forum over a negative comment I made and got her a bit hot under the collar but that just indicated to me that she and Mr. Crazies care deeply about what they are doing.

As to Anilos, you can't beat the Captain. Unfailingly helpful, unfailingly courteous.

So Elephant, subscribing to either site would also mean excellent support if you run into any problems.

05-07-11  10:24am - 4978 days #2
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Originally Posted by elephant:


Hi I'm normally into looking at 18-25s on sites but after seeing a couple of my old movies featuring hot over 30 women I'm on the prowl to find a site I can join with sexy over 30 women having sex or solo.

Also after seeing Lucy Lawless in Spartacus also has just added to my new found infatuation with some older women, I love her natural womanly shape and would love it if there was a porn site to see more of women of her quality. Veronica Avluv is another woman I've recently discovered who I adore.

I'm not really into fake boobs or tats though so I know its hard to find just a site and probably one doesn't exist, I know there's the softcore stuff but I do like my hardcore, wouldn't mind a site with a mixture though. I also am not into average looking women in porn so have to be good lookers.

I do remember Danni.com looked interesting but has the fake boobs, don't know how many though. Anyone any idea of such a site.


I would suggest "Anilos" as well as "All Over 30." Both contain beautiful models and have some h/c content, both would be excellent for a first time subscriber. I found that lately neither the models nor their picture sets/movies have been all that exciting (personal taste) but their early material is very good and in the case of Anilos also of very good quality when it comes to videos.

05-01-11  02:42pm - 4984 days #37
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Maybe if people have enough porn they don't have so much to be angry about after all?

Just reading comments sections on other sites--without even going into their discussion forums--can be depressing, and really make you lose hope in our species. The intolerance, bigotry, and vitriol are nearly insufferable. It's the double-edged sword of the Internet--easy access to a wide range of viewpoints but even easier access to a extremely narrow world view. (Of course we're mostly a bunch of male perverts here. )


I know exactly what you mean when it comes to those comments. Most of them are just plain disgusting. Just as bad are the comments outfits like CNN or our CBC and CTV allow you to make about a news story. The meanness and nastiness and partisanship are sickening, and the voices of reason are being drowned out!

05-01-11  12:56pm - 4984 days Original Post - #1
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I'm really shamefaced about this but ALSCAN has convinced me that there's merit in watching younger models. One of them has even become a favorite of mine. So, mature women, take notice you've just acquired competition when it comes to my preferences.

My horizon has just expanded (especially since I got used to the shaved look as well! ) so I'm no longer tied to a basic 4 - 5 sites. Hooray!

But now I have a question because I'm a relative newbie when it comes to sites outside the mature niche: Which site would you say has the crispest pictures and clearest videos?

I tried Twisty's some time ago and found the look of their models too smooth because of body powder and photoshopping, The "Only ..." sites suffered from the same defect (in my eyes so don't be offended. I just don't like the Playboy look).

I like pictures and videos that show every little detail, especially after I have taken the trouble of downloading huge files of Ultra High Resolution material.

So, in your eyes, which site would suit me best? If you want to go the extra mile you might want to keep in mind that I love lingerie on young and old alike as well.

Video only is okay as well even though a video/picture combination would be better.

Converted messmer

05-01-11  12:27pm - 4984 days #35
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Originally Posted by graymane:


..... Gotta tell'ya....the response from everybody has fortified my held-belief that this site is about as close to being home-away-from-home as one can be.


Well, I tell you graymane it came as a complete shock to me to find that the most civilized forum on the Internet should be in a Porn Users' site! And I subscribed to a ton of newsgroups in the usenet, and participated in them before I gave up on it!

04-30-11  04:09pm - 4985 days #18
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Originally Posted by mistresskent:


Seems a little silly to "show you the money" before you part with it!

Sorry not been around, been doing important stuff, like learning words and gigging... hopefully I shouldn't have to put so much effort in now as have 25 songs down.

How are we all??


We are doing great, MistressKent! Good to see you back. I'll add my voice to that of another: what the heck is gigging? Have you taken a break from dominating unwary males and are now a music star?

04-30-11  04:06pm - 4985 days #17
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Another interesting thread 'ol buddy....all that an' still maintaining top-banana in your record-breaking berth at posting.
You da'man!

Now, Regarding your inquiry....
(Ouote) Anyone with me on this one?
Answer: You bet.

Does that make sense?
Answer: Can't say, but I agree the act is ass-backward.

Do you care?
Answer: Absolutely....but Only because your keen perceptivity in the art of good porn has brought to our attention that the habit is indeed ass-backward.

messmer, with still too much time on his hands:
Well, you know what you can do about that? Kill some of that time by putting something more pleasurable in those hands.


It is so good to see you back, graymane, even though it is temporary until the addition to your daughter's house is finished!

04-30-11  04:04pm - 4985 days #16
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Originally Posted by otoh:


I'm with you on that, Messmer. Given that we are looking on porn sites, it's almost a given that at some point in the proceedings, the model will be naked; but just one picture like that gives us no indication of what the set will be like; if there's any tease, etc.


Exactly otoh! For someone like myself who likes to see a picture set to start fully clothed (and what kind of clothes the models start in) would be invaluable.

04-30-11  04:01pm - 4985 days #15
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


I sort of agree, but think Exotics put his finger on it. In the bad old days of illegal porn and rip offs there were always promises that never delivered. Before I join a site I like to see the sort of content they have, and how good they are at presenting it. So I want to see a few samples of all they have to offer. After you've joined, I agree it's better to see the model clothed to start with, once you know the site or network is a good one and delivers.


Hi Squirrel, I was talking about previews of recent updates because I would find it helpful to see how the ladies are dressed in the beginning of a set. It sure would help me make up my mind. Better yet would be two pictures: one fully dressed, one taken from the end and fully naked. That way you would know that it was not a tease only site.

04-30-11  03:56pm - 4985 days #14
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I kind of like the surprise of seeing what she's going to take off.

But to address your point, it would be nice to have a preview of a few pics, dressed to undressed. MPL Studios does it in an interesting way. There's this "flip card" thing you put your mouse under. You can click through the pics, or use the wheel on your mouse.

Example


Hey, Drooler, that flip card thing is a neat idea. MPL must be featuring all nude because I didn't see anyone clothed on the carousel. Better yet would be to do it a la "We Are Hairy" where you can get a preview of the whole set, but not too many sites do that.

04-30-11  03:49pm - 4985 days #13
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I tend to find that previews shots (in update announcements - see my sites' updates pages) that feature the girls fully clothed sell better than skipping to the end. And every update ends with at least one girl completely naked, often two or more naked. At least in that way I am doing the right thing


You are on the right path, Ed! I wish other webmasters would imitate you. I am not surprised to see the sets that feature fully clothed preview pictures sell better.

04-30-11  10:17am - 4985 days #7
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


I've had it done in real life so seeing it in a porn flick is not that big a deal. They should be about as sensitive as a woman's but how the hell do you measure that??


It's not a big deal to me either, jberryl. But it did play a large part in my personal sex life and I was surprised never to see it portrayed in any DVD scenes I watched.

04-30-11  10:15am - 4985 days #6
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I think that the reason why you don't see that is simply because the geniuses making porn today consider foreplay to be a guy getting a BJ. Why would they waste time with male nipple play. They already have so much time alloted for all the various penetration shots they'll have in the scene that there is no time left for any kind of foreplay.


By Jove, I think you've got it, Pat!

04-29-11  06:02pm - 4986 days #3
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I was thinking more in terms of foreplay. Later on other areas of the male anatomy clamor for attention and tend to take over!

04-29-11  05:02pm - 4986 days #38
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


Can I point out that I am a European webmaster, and I use CCBill as one of my main billing agents and I have never agreed to their Regional Pricing scheme.

From my point of view it is set up all wrong. I would like to set a price in UK Pounds and have the US Dollar price move according to the exchange rate, ensuring that I get the same amount per sign up. Otherwise when the US Dollar takes a dive against the UK Pound, I end up getting much less from US customers. By pricing in Dollars I get no direct control over what people pay for memberships! I'm left having to occasionally adjust prices when the exchange rate moves by a large amount.

I've asked CCBill to give this option several times but they're just not interested.


This may have nothing to do with regional pricing but I have noticed with CCBill that they always charge an additional $ 2.50 or so on top of the regular subscription price. (No it's not originating with my bank). I could never figure out what that one is for. Epoch doesn't do it!

04-29-11  04:43pm - 4986 days Original Post - #1
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First thing I do when I take a tour of a site is to look at their updates, and most of the time they will show a picture of a naked model with the day of the update underneath.

I know that she will be naked by the end of the set/video and would rather see a picture of her fully clothed so I will know what she wears or doesn't wear in the beginning of the picture set or the video.

Does that make sense?

Do you care?

messmer, with still too much time on his hands!

04-29-11  04:23pm - 4986 days Original Post - #1
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Have you ever seen a female porn star stroke, pinch, suckle or gently bite a man's nipples? I'm not into nipples, male that is, but am wondering why I have never come across this action in my extensive porn travels when a male nipple is so pleasantly sensitive to erotic manipulation. Told you it was a frivolous subject of no consequence! messmer with too much time on his hands.

04-29-11  10:07am - 4986 days #2
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Most here have agreed about the recent Japanese disaster.
I will not compare things - BUT still: The latest storm/tornado disaster in the Southern states of the USA is horrifying.
Hundreds of people have died, far more have lost their relatives and friends and even more have lost their homes in Tuscaloosa, Al. and other places in the South.

I feel the need to express my deepest sympathies with those victims - folks, try to imagine loosing everything....and it's somewhat strange: when disasters hit Asia, The third World ect. the sympathies are THERE - but when it hits The US - not so much in the world medias...



The sympathy is still there, Denner. I know that my wife and I commiserate with the survivors and families of those who died and lost their homes. It's been a horrific spring on this continent, especially in its mid section. Between snow, floods, and now severe weather they haven't had it easy. Here on the East Coast of Canada we have been luckier, hardly any snow but mostly rain instead and we are thankful for that, even though April was rained out.

04-26-11  11:14am - 4989 days #13
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I think we all assume "mature" means older, not whether she can refrain from spending her latest paycheck on blow or clothing. Also, to be fair to Messmer, he didn't put ALS's low age range as a con but instead mentioned it in the Bottom Line as his "usual plaint" (which made me laugh because I was well aware of how young their models were).

Interestingly though when I read his review that part made me think back to when I first became a fan of ALSScan, which was in the '90s and their youngest models were older than me. And now I'm probably older than almost all their models, save for a tiny handful, and that makes me feel old!


Thanks for coming to my defense, turboshaft. My remark on the bottom of the review was wistful but nevertheless tongue-in-cheek and in no way affected my score.

As to your next paragraph, young models don't make me feel older but as I explained in my dissertation "In Praise Of Older Women" (above) I know how I felt as an eighteen year old when I saw a 75 year old woman therefore I find it hard to make a young girl part of my fantasy. I can admire their beauty but feel less creepy in the company of older women.

As opposed to you I like the imperfections that come with increasing age, maybe it makes me feel better about myself???

But having said all this I must say that I find many of the videos at ALSSCAN quite erotic and stimulating, young models or not, so I am not really doctrinaire about the age thing even though I would prefer it.

Came across a hot lesbian video with Faye Regan last night and was a happy camper! Long live ALSSCAN!

04-25-11  11:07am - 4990 days #7
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Originally Posted by asiancumdump:


I think hot girls will always be hot, but as you get older, older women become more attractive.


That's how I feel as well. Just because I prefer older women does not mean that I reject "young." To me my preference for mature is a multi-layered thing:

For one thing, I could never see those May - December romances a la Hefner in real life because I am firmly convinced that an 18 year old would find me absolutely disgusting and creepy, so how can I make her part of a fantasy? I can put up with it in DVDs because I'm just a voyeur and not part of the action but in solos it's got to be more mature. I hope that makes sense.

Secondly, I like nudes with a few flaws, the amateur types. This puts me well outside the main stream but I like saggies, as a matter of fact I LOVE saggies and you don't get that on a really young 'un. Their breasts are too perky and perfect.

I also like a bit of a belly, not huge but a bit of a roll, again not normally found on an eighteen year old.

Then there is the change in tastes: In my youth and middle age lingerie always played a large part in porn and real life while nowadays people get turned on by the fact that a model is bold enough NOT to wear any.

My chance of finding nice old-fashioned erotic lingerie is therefore greatly increased if I look under "Mature!"

But as asiancumdump stated: "hot girls will always be hot" so my preference does not mean that I reject younger models .. see my present subscription to ALS SCAN, and some time ago even to Nubiles, it's just that a) by choosing mature my chances of finding what I like are greatly increased. Hope this explains my views!

04-24-11  02:08pm - 4991 days #9
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Originally Posted by devmsr:


ok...so maybe im missing something....

am i the only one that actually prefers streaming?

ill even admit i had read previously how most dont like streaming sites..and this and that...so i tried it..i started downloading all my new vids...granted i dont do the dwnld manager thing..(only because i have no clue how to even start with one)...in addition, i have to say..i maybe on a very rare occasion have went back into my new library and watched one of those downloaded vids...

so, for me, all this has done is take up basically all of my memory!!..

anyways, maybe some of you can educate me on this??

as always, THANKS for helpin this poor newbie!..lol

devmsr (formerly rsmdev )



Hey devmsr, I think most of us are collectors at heart. We like the organizing and everything that goes with it. I have separate folders for various websites and among my DVD collection I sort by 6 different categories. So, as the mood strikes me I can look at the videos or picture sets that appeal to me most on a particular day. Others collect everything of a favorite model. So, there's value to downloading.

As to memory, I would be willing to bet that 90% of the Porn Users in this forum use external drives rather than their computers' hard drive in order to accommodate their ever growing collections.

But to each his own, there must be others who like "streaming only" otherwise paysites wouldn't ever consider switching to that model of doing business. It's just that I don't!

04-24-11  12:53pm - 4991 days #129
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I am sure I am far from alone in liking this type of material.

Why is there so little catering for us?

Fully clothed to full nude.


It is not as if it is a difficult subject to cover.
Models need only be to art nude level, as midcore is beyond the format.

Frustrated...(again!)

Cap'n.


I sympathize, as you know! Frustration over not finding THE site has driven me over the edge into formerly disliked territory. Weeks of looking in vain can do that to you!

04-24-11  12:34pm - 4991 days #18
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Originally Posted by otoh:


At the risk of getting a slap for being patronising (feel free) I am always hugely encouraged to see both you and messmer here - much in the same way I am when I see somebody somewhat older than me still on a motorcycle. Riding and ogling naked ladies are activities I certainly hope I'll still be doing in 30 years' time!


No slap from me, otoh! I know *I* would have felt good if someone in their seventies had reassured me when I was younger that the libido survives well into so-called old age! So-called because you never feel old, at least I don't.

Except on days when I looked too hard and in vain for a good site with mature models who gradually strip out of erotic ... aw, you know how it goes by now!

04-24-11  12:25pm - 4991 days #17
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Many, many thanks, guys for your kind and generous thoughts. I want you all to know that I'm touched beyond words to describe my feelings.
Be assured, I've missed this forum camaraderie more than you could know.

Like Khan mentioned, health issues has some things to do with my absence... but the main reason is that I'm in the throes of making preparations to put my house on the market. This is clearly no simple task. Coupled with aging faculties unyieldingly bidding my anatomical functions bye-bye, and currently my mortal combat with contractors, has pretty-much chewed up my time, as well as taken a toll on my energy.
Home-owner-ship will be giving-way to some sort of assisted-living, but as long as these arthritic fingers can tap the keys, and my computer-doctor still makes house-calls, then I'll still maintain my front-row seat at PU's forum.

Thanks again (especially to messmer) I'm truly humbled


Hey, I missed you, partner! Glad to see that it was mostly house troubles that kept you away and I sympathize, because I know what that is all about, in connection with your anatomical functions gradually bidding you bye-bye. Stay reasonably well and I can't wait to see you back!

04-24-11  12:21pm - 4991 days #3
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Happy Easter, Khan and staff as well as to all the Porn Users in this forum.

04-21-11  10:31am - 4994 days Original Post - #1
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Today's poll reminded me that with "streaming only" gaining favor with some webmasters we, as users, should make it very clear in our comments and reviews if a site practices this.

I would never join a streaming only site, but some webmasters are so silent on the subject on their tours that many an unwary soul might subscribe without realizing this.

It would also be nice if the TBP review summation on the right-hand top of the page (in Porn Users) carried a special warning about this practice. This is the most important and restrictive development in Porn since DRM and I know that I would be severely ticked off if I found myself subscribing to a site like that inadvertently.

04-18-11  03:54pm - 4997 days #8
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


They're not all running scared. Most of the possible/considering it/exploratory 2012 Republican presidential candidates are of the "values" crowd--no sex, no queers, no taxes, no Darwin, no problem!

Except for Donald Trump--yes, apparently he's going to try and run--they're all in the sexuality-is-evil crowd, or at least that's how they're selling themselves to the far-right fringe. For people who constantly claim to defend the "sanctity" of life they sure do hate some of the best parts about it; the sex, masturbation, and porn (though not necessarily always in that order).

What happened to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?


The longer I live the more I feel that I live among entirely too many hypocrites. Jesus described them well when he said: On the outside they are like white washed tombs while on the inside they are full of dead men's bones! <- see not all religious are bad! It's just their followers that mess things up!

04-18-11  09:10am - 4997 days #5
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Originally Posted by Jay G:


Absolutely on point again, Messmer. Those who scream the loudest against sexuality are the sickest bastards of all. Tell them they belong in the Taliban, putting burkha blankets over all women so we won't have any sexual thoughts.

Ever notice how they hate sex but love gory cruel violence and torture? Show me a defender of torture and I'll show you a very sick soul.


This is something that has always baffled me, Jay, that no one ever speaks of the true pornography that is violence. Extreme violence is so casually accepted in all the slasher movies, in the news, in games etc., yet put one explicit love scene into a movie and it gets an NC-17 rating. It's a sick world, and as you implied the sick ones aren't necessarily found among porn lovers.

04-17-11  06:43pm - 4998 days #2
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


This may not be of much interest to non-U.S. PU'ers, but apparently the Obama administration has quietly put the Dept. of Justice's Obscenity Prosecution Task Force to sleep. Or at least hasn't done enough with it that 41 senators were concerned enough to write attorney general Eric Holder a letter urging him and the DOJ "to combat the growing scourge of obscenity in America."

I know this may seem strange to the international PU'ers, especially considering how southern California produces porn by the truckload (a badandy400 unit of measure, I believe), but you have to remember that our elected officials absolutely hate porn, or pretty much anything having to do with sex--birth control, sex ed., film, music, the Internet (apparently as a whole), TV, you name it. It's all sexualizing our innocent citizens and destroying society before our very eyes!

Okay, I'm getting on my free speech soapbox here, but porn is big business because a lot of people like it, and regularly (if privately) enjoy it in a perfectly healthy manner that doesn't mysteriously lead to child rape and spousal abuse (that's what organized religion is for! ...just kidding.). But I wonder if a career in American politics leads you to be a prudish asshole or all these people just assholes by birth?

Supposedly last summer's Stagliano trial and then subsequent dismissal was a sign that this task force was of no interest to the Obama administration. I may dislike him for being so irritatingly centrist but at least he's adult enough to give up on this ridiculous federal boner patrol the Bush II people set up in 2005. I'm just hoping the next republican president doesn't try and bring it back to life.


Naw, they are all running scared. Those politicians who lectured your nation on the evils of gayness and gay marriage turned out to be gay themselves. Those who preached family values were caught cheating on their wives, so those who are against pornography are probably frightened of the possibility that someone might discover that they are closet porn addicts. I think one stone too much has been thrown from the glass houses of the moralists and they are all hiding behind their congressional or senatorial pulpits so that they'll be ignored for now!

Edited on Apr 17, 2011, 06:47pm

04-17-11  06:33pm - 4998 days #5
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Originally Posted by badandy400:




See, there is no life after sixty!


I am combating the notion that after sixty you're a relic without a libido. You certainly couldn't say that about graymane .. or myself!

But because he is 77 anything is possible and I just want to make sure he isn't ill because I haven't seen his name lately!

04-17-11  06:29pm - 4998 days #4
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Enjoy your 59 ...


Or what's left of them ...

04-17-11  01:38pm - 4998 days Original Post - #1
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I need your company so that we can continue to prove to all the youngsters in this forum that there's life after sixty! Hope all is well with you!

04-16-11  01:09pm - 4999 days #19
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Originally Posted by leepea:


I belong to a few pay sites and seems like many sites have similar features/benefits etc. People sign up and cancel all the time, and some sites give you cancellation discounts etc. to try to get you to retain.

So what I want to know is, what keeps you all interested/sticking to a site month after month? Contents, updates, downloading stuff is obviously important..but what are the other intangibles? Live shows? interacting with pornstars? rewards points? And what are some sites with good retention strategies?

so help do me a solid and discuss....
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That's what I would like to know, too: "What keeps you all sticking to a site month after month?"

I get so easily bored with every single site I subscribe to. My initial reaction upon signing up with a new site is always: "GREAT all kinds of good stuff here. I have found myself a gold mine and can finally stick around for a while rather than search every damn month for new sites of interest."

However, the moment I get finished with downloading everything I find erotic and arousing my enthusiasm rapidly wanes because the updates very seldom give me what I like.

They can't of course because the site has to cater to tastes that are different from mine as well.

Sometimes I have to wait a week or even longer before I am tempted to download a picture set or video and I realize that my enthusiasm was built on originally having the whole archive of the site at my disposal and therefore (even though their updates were generally inimical to my taste) found enough material to please even me.

That's why I made up my mind a few weeks ago that I would no longer "stick around." I think the best thing for me is to get acquainted with a handful of sites that occasionally offer content that is closest to my taste and visit them twice a year to pick the sets/videos I find erotic.

After having made that decision I find that I need a couple (or more) sites to add to the rotation.

So if anyone knows of any mature sites other than KarupsOW, All Over 30, Anilos, Aunt Judy's/Older Women, I would be happy to hear from you. But please, no Score sites, they've gone (at least the mature ones) to streaming only! Thank you.

To any webmaster I would say, if you want to hang on to your subscribers, cater to a specific narrow niche and stick to it, accompany this with frequent updates and this would have to be a winner.

You would not become a super site, but among millions of porn users there would be enough with a yearning for your specialized type of material that you could make a good living.

I am still looking for "Over Forty" models getting slowly undressed down to the buff, featuring erotic and exciting lingerie. The sites I mentioned above do give me a handful of sets/videos now and then that appeal to me but, as stated, I pretty well have to wait 6 months in between subscriptions to make it worth my while.

I wish I collected young models or nudes! (sigh) Edited on Apr 16, 2011, 01:51pm

04-11-11  02:17pm - 5004 days #3
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I was thinking of joining 21Sextury network finally. Most reviews are positive and they seem to have a lot of stuff that I�d be interested in seeing. I also like that the webmaster is active here in responding to questions and comments. That�s a good sign that they treat customers well.

But in reading RustyJ�s recent review of Teen Bitch Club I�ve learned that there are now three separate networks: 21Sextury, 21Sextreme and Bonus Sites. All seem to be completely separate with separate memberships.

Can an current members confirm whether these three networks are completely separate? If, for example, I want Anal Teen Angels (on the 21Sextury site), Teach Me Fisting (on the 21Sextreme site, and Daily Sex Dose (on the Bonus Sites site) that I�d have to subscribe to all three networks. Or if I make this a long term membership do I get access to all the site eventually like was done in the past with 21Sextury.

Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated.


The way I read it there are two sites now, 21Sextury and 21Sextreme with both carrying additional (probably the same) bonus contents. I wouldn't recommend 21Sextury as they feature mostly 18-25 year old models! Just kidding, just kidding, rearadmiral! I do know your preferences!

04-06-11  09:47am - 5009 days #11
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


Good idea. I'll give that a shot, but it is probably a long shot. This site doesn't seem like the webmaster would really give a crap about customer satisfaction. I might be wrong though.


You are right about it being a long shot, rearadmiral, because I get the same idea about the webmaster's interest or lack thereof in his customers satisfaction. Sorry, to have upstaged you with the comment. My remarks were clumsily worded and I was being ambiguous.

04-05-11  06:24pm - 5010 days #8
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


That's what threw me off too. TBP doesn't say streaming only either, so maybe the site is being a bit misleading.


Or it could be that a lot of time has lapsed between TBP's bare facts, Feb. 2010 and MBaya's review dated Oct. 2009 and they offer streaming only now, no downloads. I guess only a present member could tell for sure what's what?? Maybe by putting a comment on the web site's PU page we might get a reply by the webmaster?

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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I wrote a review of the site a while back. Yes you can download videos on the site. Yes they are from the dvd series American Bukkake.


Your and rearadmiral's posts peaked my curiosity and I just took a quick tour of the site. Are you sure they haven't changed their way of doing business (like Score 50plus MILFS) to streaming only? It's not made clear but this message on the first page you come to made me wonder:

"Join today and become an honorary "bukkake boy" and you'll get access to full streaming American Bukkake scenes and thousands of images. Best of all, you'll get access to American Bukkake footage that has never been scene anywhere else! Enjoy."

No mention of downloads .. of course that doesn't necessarily mean downloading a scene is no longer allowed.

04-03-11  09:44am - 5012 days #11
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Originally Posted by anyonebutme:


Ever wonder what the pricetag is on a ccbill data dump?


Now that is a scary thought!

04-02-11  02:48pm - 5013 days #5
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Originally Posted by Yariana:


I see a serious lawsuit on the horizon. This is why I never sell my content to other sites and warn my girls to be careful their documents are not compromised. I keep the records behind lock and key and refuse to sell the content because of the legal 2257 requirements for secondary producers. This is absolutely despicable.


As I said to lk2fireone, I sincerely hope you are right about the law suit, Yariana. I know there are all kinds of creeps out there but this guy outcreeps them all!

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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


One unfortunate byproduct of the Internet is to empower the creeps. But that's part of the price of freedom. At the same time, I would assume that the man, or site he owns/runs, could be sued for different reasons, and probably be shut down.


I sure hope you are right, lk2fireone! At my age I should be cynical but guys like him still manage to shock me.

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A man like this is beneath contempt. I wonder what his leaks will do to the Porn industry in general but more importantly what they will do to the performers who felt safe behind their assumed names. Everyone's best reaction would be to turn a scornful back to this douchebag's site.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-200499...mp;tag=2547-1_3-0-20

04-02-11  11:20am - 5013 days #439
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


I'm a big fan of the books. I saw all the movies. I thought the first one was OK. I thought the second one was dreadful - a botch job as a film and I thought that the director/writer's re-writing of the books in several key aspects was awful and I thought they destroyed the ending. I pretty much hated the second movie, though I understand that it was an edit of a longer movie that had been done for television, so that explains part of why it was such crap. I thought the 3rd movie was the best of the 3, by far - and quite a good movie.

I'm really looking forward to what Fincher will do with the series. He's done some movies that I thought were awesome.


I am in the middle of reading the third book and am losing a lot of sleep over this trilogy. A terrific read. I only saw the second movie and agree that it was a bunch of crap. So many things omitted, so many things changed. I prefer the scenes my mind conjures up when I read a book so I prefer the written version to the movie most of the time.

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Hey, exotics, seeing that our tastes are so disparate do you think I might like DDF?

04-01-11  01:30pm - 5014 days #6
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Arghh .. don't mention the "Only" network. I subscribed to "Only Tease" and it was a major disappointment. Not only were they too soft but the clothes and lingerie were not to my taste either .. some exceptions, of course.

Delve into your collection: That's what I have done lately. I had forgotten how many wonderful picture sets were sitting on my externals because I hadn't looked at them in months.

It was a desperation move because, after I gleaned everything of interest from KarupsOW and AllOver30 (my latest re-subscription,) I have not seen one update in over a week that I would wish to download. Times are tough for lovers of mature women stripping gradually while revealing enticing lingerie in the process!

Funny thing is, in AO30 there seems to be an increased emphasis on models in lingerie but there is no tease to it.

I am sure that you will wholeheartedly agree that the model should start fully clothed and end up fully naked, but sadly in many of the updates the model starts in bra, panties, garterbelt and nylons and stays that way throughout most of the set.

I like the sets well enough to download at least some of them but it is not exactly what I had in mind because, to me, the eroticism has always been in the gradual strip tease and not in the lingerie, per se, even though I tend to label myself a lingerie fetishist. Didn't we talk about this before?

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Originally Posted by Capn:


Never having had a membership to one, I am not being specific here, just thinking in general terms.

Do folk generally find these worthwhile?

Whenever I see a site that appeals & it is part of a network, I usually find 75% or more of the other sites in the network never appeal.

Often there is no apparent theme running through the sites subject matter, other than them generally being hardcore.

Is this me being picky or is it just that softcore is not as well catered for as hardcore?

Cap'n.


A lot of folks find membership to a network worthwhile. I think it is because they like to collect certain models and those can usually be found throughout most of the sites, doing anal in one, dp in another, facials in a third etc.

For me networks have been a disappointment for the reason that I don't collect models but rather certain niches, and I am being picky even there, so there's always the feeling: oops, I made a big mistake when I joined.

I belonged to 21Sextury until recently and downloaded one to two scenes a week .. in a good one. I have a year long membership to Reality Kings at the moment but haven't downloaded anything in months because no matter how many sites there are, they all follow the same formula.

At first I was enamored of this network because they actually had lead-ins to the sex scenes rather than raw Gonzo, but found very quickly that the same scenarios were being repeated from week to week to week in the various sites.

Now I just have a casual look once a week, see nothing of interest and leave. That's why I say it is almost essential to be a fan of certain models, know them by their names and to collect them if you wish to enjoy these networks.

I can't undo my subscription to Reality Kings but am joining single sites only in the meantime while my subscription to RK runs its neglected course.

And you are right, softcore is much neglected. I wouldn't know of a single network that specializes in softcore only.

Even the single sites that started out great gave in to the pleas for harder contents, and b/g and dildos abound, to a point where I have a terrible time finding an update that appeals to me.

I think I'll have to quit this whole porn business soon and concentrate on looking at, or re-looking at, all the good stuff I've come across over the years.

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Thanks, Pat. I understand your revulsion now. Definitely not appropriate for a twelve year old.

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I don't think Pat was complaining about the music but rather about the moral value, or lack thereof, when it came to a twelve year old performing it in those videos. I couldn't comment because I don't understand a word they sing/talk these days. So if your comment was in connection with the lyrics, sorry Pat, I can't join you in your sincere outrage for that reason.

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