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02-04-11  12:37pm - 5071 days	#16
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Kevin: Hey guys, I just wanted to chime in here to clear things up a bit. All of the recent CRTC and UBB discussions have not really been about the consumer. The decisions being discussed were about whether or not the large companies that own the lines could force the smaller ISPs using their lines to impose UBB on their customers. As you know these companies in Canada such as Bell, Shaw, Telus, and Rogers have had "soft limits" on bandwidth allowances for many years now and it has been up to them whether or not they want to charge overages. What they are trying to do now is forcing smaller ISPs that share the same infrastructure (such as Teksavvy on Bell lines) to charge their customer overages. That is what the government wants CRTC to reverse. The infrastructure is already in place and it costs virtually nothing extra to deliver more GB to a household. The ISPs are trying to charge something for nothing in a country where bandwidth is already one of the most expensive in the world. There is a lot of confusion around this issue because it comes at a time when Shaw has announced that it will finally start enforcing its bandwidth caps (almost immediately after Netflix launched in Canada). Yep, you are right, Kevin. That's what the CRTC ruling was all about, Bell (your example) used caps while those they rented bandwidth to (Teksavvy) did not. But the CRTC's decision nevertheless affects every High-Speed user in Canada as one after the other of the ISPs is using the ruling as an excuse to put caps on bandwidth. As you've seen above some of those caps are ridiculously low. Those of my ISP (Eastlink) aren't, but only last year, when they upgraded my speed for an extra ten dollars a month, they assured me fervently that they would never, ever impose caps. Now it's going to be 250 GB thanks to the CRTC. That's a lot, but with higher and higher speeds, bringing with it the temptation to watch all the streaming bandwidth hogs coming on-line, it won't seem like so much a year or so down the road. I pay extra already for my ultra high speed, that should be enough to look after uncapped bandwidth. I hope the Government will overturn the decision, as a matter of fact, it is my most sincere wish that they'll do away with the CRTC altogether. This monstrosity was originally put in place to safeguard Canadian Contents on Radio and TV because most Canadians preferred American shows to Canadian ones and the Canadian film and TV producers were in danger of failing, taking our "cultural identity" with them. Not that the talent isn't here, but American producers have deeper pockets and therefore are able to produce better quality shows .. well, at least until Reality TV came along! Anyway, down with bandwidth caps and I strongly suspect you are right re. Netflix!!
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02-03-11  10:23am - 5072 days	#13
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by rearadmiral: I have my service through Aliant and wasn't aware that they were planning to impose a cap. They do have a 'soft' cap in that in their agreement they say that the average household should use no more than 250GB per month. I could easily live with that. But if the cap is lower, people aren't going to be able to take advantage of the shift away from traditional TV to a more user-defined experience. But then I suspect that is one of the main reasons that the big telecoms want to push caps. Their traditional model is under pressure and they want to discourage people from leaving. One way is to make it too expensive to leave. Just got a reply back from Eastlink that might interest you. They are going to cap at 250 GB a month with an additional $1.00 being charged for every GB over the limit. I can easily live with that if I don't download too many of those bloated Reality Kings files. BTW, did you see the latest news: our Government (conservative for the benefit of those who live outside of Canada) actually wants the CRTC to reverse their decision. Shish, if they keep doing stuff like that I might turn Conservative yet!
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02-03-11  10:09am - 5072 days	#47
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by mistresskent: lol.. cheers But the question was.. do you think its worth me having a crack at this? x I know you are not responding to me, mistresskent, but let me butt in and state that the samples you provided really don't give a clear idea of what the average set of pictures would look like. Would it be a site featuring full strip scenes as the Cap'n requests. I go along with him, except for the sweater and boots thing But I'll even buy his view of heaven if there's something really erotic being revealed once that sweater comes off. Or would you just feature sets containing a beautiful model having a shower in one set, going to work in another etc.? Most of the time without wearing sufficient lingerie? Okay, you can't do much about the latter in a shower scene, but the point is: dozens of sites are doing just that already and the competition would be awfully stiff, while, when it comes to a quality site that features a really leisurely strip ending up in full nudity .. that one is difficult to find. That's why I predict that the success rate for a new site that caters to that particular niche would be better. Even if only one percent of Porn Users liked that sort of thing you could still do well if you stayed true to the niche. There's millions of us pervs out there. One percent of millions as steady subscribers is good .. no? And Cap'n is right in other ways as well: full frontal shots are important, reclining shots dressed and undressed are important. Landscape type pictures are important. These things are too often ignored by the average photographer.
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02-02-11  04:23pm - 5072 days	#6
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by anyonebutme: The cost of operation to send the 4gb to you is like 2 cents. The cost of the labor and materials involved in providing the internet connection out to your region, plus maintenance & upkeep, and service support, was millions of dollars of investment and yearly overhead. Personally I think a pay per gb model is good. We don't have a flat-rate for electricity usage, you pay per the kilowatt-hour. If you use half as much electricity as your neighbor, you pay roughly half the price. Why should the person who transfers 10mb per month for small email usage, be forced to pay the same price as someone who downloads 100gb of porn flicks? I think most people could live with an extra 2 cents a GB but those profiteers are talking $ 4.00 for every GB over. Your suggestion that you should pay for what you use, may have its merits in certain cases but how would you go about enforcing that when it comes to Cable Television, for instance? Put a meter in your DVR that records your daily Bandwidth usage and then charge over and above what you pay for the various channels? The thing is this, as I mentioned above, usage by the average subscriber to the Internet is constantly increasing, never mind the old lady who checks her inbox twice a month. There are all the (non-porn) tube sites, there's Facebook with all the pictures and movie clips your friends and relatives want to treat you to, every news channel in the country also has a website with their latest news and commentary in streaming. Then you have the movie reviews in HD. Plus you have all those so-called "friends" who keep bombarding your mail box with all those cute little posts, most of them containing large attachments .. it's an ever increasing spiral of consumption. Add to that your Porn consumption. If the big guys no longer make enough money out of our expensive subscription (I pay for ultra high speed) then let them increase the subscription fee. I know that I can't see myself sitting at my computer biting my finger nails, wondering if that next site I gravitate to will take me over the top!
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02-02-11  04:07pm - 5072 days	#5
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by rearadmiral: I agree about the CRTC issue. I read yesterday though that the CRTC has been asked to rethink the whole issue. I understand that the PM got a 200,000 name petition after the original boneheaded decision. A porn buddy of mine recently switched ISPs and I strongly encouraged him to tell his old ISP that he was leaving because of the caps and make it clear to the new one that he was signing up with the because of their lack of caps. It drives me up a wall. I don't blame you, many in this country are furious and feel rather powerless because there's not too much competition you COULD go to. It would be good to have something like you mention (refuse to subscribe to any service that has caps) to hold over the greedy .......s heads. Trouble is, in my area we have Aliant, (who have already decided to take advantage of the CRTC ruling), and Eastlink, my present ISP. If Eastlink should decide to imitate the others there would be no one else to go to ... at the moment.
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02-02-11  12:24pm - 5073 days	#2
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by rearadmiral: Here in the land of holy-fuck-it�s-cold-and-fuck-me-if-it-isn�t-snowing-again, otherwise known as Canada, ISPs really seem to get their jollies by imposing bandwidth caps. One of the biggest in the country, Rogers Telecommunications, imposes some caps and then charges (I think) $4 per GB of data used above the cap. I�m not a techie, but I can�t imagine that in any warped world that a GB of data bandwidth is worth anywhere near that. My completely uneducated guess would be that a GB of bandwidth might actually cost the ISP a couple of cents. I realize that they may try to argue for high infrastructure costs, but charging for additional bandwidth doesn�t resolve that. And I�m sure it has absolutely nothing with the fact that this company is one of the largest cable providers and they don�t want to lose those customers to online viewing. I don't have an answer to your question but only the statement that I am totally disgusted with the CRTC for giving the go ahead for imposing a 40 GB Bandwidth limit on the average user with everything used above that being charged extra. In this day and age of YouTube and other streaming sites that amount would be very quickly used up. Porn sites don't help either, an HD video from Reality Kings can be as high as 3 - 4 GB. I just fired off an inquiry to my local ISP (a cable company) who had promised me only last year that they would never impose limits and asked them to give me re-assurance on the subject. If they, too, go the way of Rogers and Bell I will not only cancel my Internet Access but most of their extra cable packages as well. And that is a promise!
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02-02-11  11:11am - 5073 days	#7
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by rearadmiral: This may be a sign that I like porn too much, but hearing stories like Mistress Kent's seriously pisses me off. For those of us that appreciate all the work that sites and studios do (and that's probably the vast majority of regulars here) it is obvious that hackers and pirates are a serious drain on people creating new material. While I have on rare occasions shared a scene with a porn buddy, I did it more as advertisement than as a means to defeat a copyright. I figure if I can interest a friend in a site then he might send some business that way. It has worked in the past. I think that tar-and-feathering would be a good start for these bastards. I'll bring the tar. Just call me. Hey, rearadmiral, I thought we Canadians were supposed to be laid back and genteel! But I completely agree with your sentiments, we have large agricultural areas nearby, so I'll bring the feathers!! To use a relatively new term: those guys are scum buckets!
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02-02-11  11:03am - 5073 days	#23
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Khan: I don't know about the rest but I do have some idea of where in the country you're in. Unless I'm far off, you're 30 minutes from Ocean View and if you miss base (and shipyard) traffic, you can be at Va Beach in a little over an hour. I used to live in that area myself and I gotta tell you, when spring time rolled around and the beach bunnies bounced around in their skimpy bathing suites and wet tee-shirts ... to ride down Atlantic Ave and see their tan bods, glistening with suntan oil and the water droplets on their skin ... or fresh out for the ocean ... man, not sure how that could *not* turn a guy on. But hey, if babes with water don't do it for you, that's ok. Almost identical reply to the one I gave above, Khan. I live near the sea and beaches and it is a proper joy to ogle all those lovely beach bunnies. But in porn I look at a water scene and think: naw, there's more exciting stuff of this model to be found.
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02-02-11  10:56am - 5073 days	#39
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	What a breathtakingly beautiful model. I even forgive her the tattoos, landing strip and shower scene. About the latter, sorry, rearadmiral. Just teasing! I especially like her fully dressed picture! If she should strip down from that to a teddy or camisole, or nice lacy bra with matching garter belt and stockings and heels ... heaven!
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02-01-11  04:03pm - 5073 days	#18
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by rearadmiral: I was raised Catholic though, so just plain nudity is a sin and therefore instantly arousing. Drat, I grew up in a mostly Catholic town. You'd think some of that guilt would rub off .. but no .. I'm a Pornopath, unable to feel guilt!
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02-01-11  12:54pm - 5074 days	#38
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	I think we get the various strains and permutations of libertarianism mixed up at times and this causes a lot of misunderstandings. The way libertarianism is understood by many Americans is almost a contradiction of what I (who consider myself a bit of a libertarian) understand. Here, but not in all points, is MY libertarianism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_libertarianism No right wing involved here, nor any religious factions.
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02-01-11  12:27pm - 5074 days	#15
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Khan: You know, it must be a fairly popular fetish as I've seen movies where high-dollar clubs have a water tank behind the bar with hotties (skantly clad or nude) swimming about. You know, I think I would feel differently if I were sitting in a club and had a chance to ogle mostly nude or nude sirens swimming about, Khan. But I feel differently about it when it comes to Porn, there I need stronger stuff.
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02-01-11  10:06am - 5074 days	#13
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by otoh: Graymane and messmer... I'm afraid I'm with rearadmiral here! Perhaps it's because I myself love idling in long, steamy baths. Although I will say that I prefer shower scenes if the girl is wearing something, at least to start. I see it as another type of tease; at first hiding what we want to see; then seeing it MUCH more clearly defined when it gets wet; then finally peeling it off This is where the diversity of tastes comes in, otoh. Just because I like to luxuriate in long, relaxing baths does not mean that I see anything sexual in doing so. Not in man, not in women. There's nothing my mind can tie to eroticism when it comes to a bath or shower. It's just a naked body surrounded by bubbles in the case of bath scenes. And I've seen so many naked bodies during my life time that undressed alone no longer does it for me. As I always say, for me nakedness has to come gift wrapped in nice lingerie to make me anticipate what's next. In a bath/shower scene there's nothing to anticipate .. it's there from picture one. But that's me!
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01-31-11  07:29pm - 5074 days	#34
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by PinkPanther: If someone's a member of a site that's feedback-driven and makes it clear that they are feedback-driven and the person doesn't want to participate in that feedback, then you can't complain that you're being ignored because you're not the most profitable demographic - you're being ignored because you've chosen not to participate in the mechanism that the site has set up to give members what they want. You can "go with the flow" - I often do. But it's not fair to the site to then make up bogus reasons as to why the site isn't meeting your desires. Well, I tell you PP, I cannot be accused of being a silent minority in any site I join. They want feed-back they usually get feed-back to the point where some forum moderators have become very testy with me. However, you might very well be right that I am being ignored but mostly because others with tastes similar to mine choose to be silent, or because others with my tastes are extremely rare, and here we return once again full circle to the subject of demographics. The majority rules because they are the most profitable. Cater to their taste and you're in clover. Depart from it and you are in trouble. Ask our friend Reg Berkley who had the best video site on the Net if I am not right? But now I'd best put an end to this discussion because I'm giving myself a headache from all my circular reasoning.
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01-31-11  07:01pm - 5074 days	#9
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by graymane: I know it's simply just me, but I've never understood why so much emphasis relating to women into titillation in porn is associated with water -- mostly involving long, tedious, boring, soapy baths, showers, hot tubs or whatever gets their bodies coated with H20. Don't know 'bout you, but it doesn't do a twit for me. Just a big waste of time. No, it's not simply you, graymane. I do not have one single shower or bath scene in my extensive collection. Not in picture, not in video. It simply leaves me cold. But just like you I also recognize that tastes differ or they wouldn't produce so much material containing bath/shower scenes. I am always awed in connection with the things that turn us humans on .. some seem so incomprehensible to me .. like a smoking fetish .. yet a person enjoying this particular kink would most likely think that my taste seems to be just a touch weird and incomprehensible!
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01-31-11  11:43am - 5075 days	#32
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by anyonebutme: DVD mega-sites are unique in that the product's primary sales are from the physical dvds, where stats like that do reflect the site being driven by consumer demand, but are not indicative of the influences on the actual producers. "Niche" can be applied to anything, not just the stereotypical fetish stuff. Like Evil Angel's niche is gonzo & hard anal, you're never going to see for example a soft seductive passionate vaginal-only scene in one of their releases. You are right, of course, and as usual the voice of reason, anyonebutme. It is so terribly hard for me to put into words exactly what I mean. To me, when it comes to DVD, Gonzo is now mainstream while I tend to classify everything else as niche. I confess to being simplistic as well as employing hyperbole at times in order to make a point. Often I don't succeed!
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01-31-11  10:13am - 5075 days	#11
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by jberryl69: Ya know, I just have never seen tits that look like this photo (http://www.dagorret.net/wp-content/uploa...2009/03/ghilary6.jpg) that were not fake - too dam symmetrical - it's like there is no gravity anywhere, surgery scars or not. Here is another laying on her back - http://image.skins.be/1952375/img-0534/ . Sorry just don't believe them to be real. I know fake tits when I see'm: http://image.skins.be/1973991/hillary-fi...r-nude-pictures-005/ Many thumbnails of her - http://forum.skins.be/51-internet-models...4448-hillary-fisher/ Now we have a debate!! Time for more Google. Having looked at some of your samples I would tend to agree with you, jberry. Sorry, Denner, old friend they truly look too symmetrical to be real.
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01-31-11  09:58am - 5075 days	#29
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by jberryl69: Mess - My point is, I think the porn sites set what is in the supply and demand not the consumer. It's like going to a store in the USSR back in the day. They had just one type of widget to buy so that's what you bought. I don't think they actually listen to what we want. How many times has it been posted "We don't like seeing guys masturbate onto girls faces for the money shot" but what do we get... almost 100% of the time. If they listened then you'd think you'd be seeing a different type of money shot. We get what we get not cause we want it but because that's all there is and we have nothing else to choose from. That is there business model. Also if the porn sites are not asking what people want they will never offer anything more. So if you're only offering one thing, it's easy to say "that's what they want". My feeling is that very few porn producers give a flying fuck what you want - or are very innovative in what they have to offer. I say this cause if they did, the business model would be very different than what you see now and they would be asking for feedback or requests or any line of communication. I've left comments on Evil Angel website that say will be posted in 24 hours and are NEVER posted. And it's a site I pretty well like, but there are some things I'd like to suggest they consider but I think it just falls on deaf ears. If I want to reach a director like Darkko, I have to use AVN talk forum or Twitter - Certainly the porn sites don't care. Sorry for the blast but this is sort of a sore subject. I usually only get pissed off at football refs, but there are some lame brain directors that I feel the same way about. Like Deepthroatlove's current director who can't shut up. There is no way for me to convey to PornPro's how totally horrible this guy is or how he is ruining a year's worth of shoots for them. It's what they offer and if you don't like don't subscribe. That's it - nothing else. Aah, okay, now I get it. A lot of what you are saying makes sense because I had some of your experiences with porn sites as well. I suggested, they acknowledged and then ignored. I still can't quite believe that they would just stock their shelves with items few of us really want and give people only one choice: take it or leave it. My theory is that there is a large number of Porn Users that are never heard from in this forum and that THEIR taste determines what we get. As an example, one of the DVD sites, not sure if it is Videosz, Porn.com or Videobox, usually lists the number of downloads of a given new update which gives us a good example of the majority taste. For instance, while, in this forum or through comments and reviews, we bemoan the sameness of the DVDs they put out, it is still a fact that a niche DVD will show 28 downloads the day following publication while an anal or DP video will show a couple of hundred if not a thousand downloads. Of course, your argument can be applied here as well. Niche content by its very nature will not be in great demand and users pick instead the only other material available even though this too is not exactly to their liking. I guess the question of which one of us is right could only be settled by a webmaster.
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01-30-11  10:05am - 5076 days	#29
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by fatboll: german are the most kinky nation on earth!! LOL. They might well be but they didn't start this whole crazy enhanced breasts business. Blame Hollywood and Hugh Hefner for that.
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01-30-11  10:03am - 5076 days	#11
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	My daughter talked me into it and I lasted all of one whole day. Too many relatives and friends wanting replies, it overwhelmed me to such an extent that I dropped it like a hot potato. I like things more leisurely and less confusing.
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01-30-11  10:00am - 5076 days	#28
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by graymane: When the site IS up an' running, jus' let me know. This'll be a first for me, cuz I'll have the high honor of being it's first customer. I might be its second customer depending on graymane's review!
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01-30-11  09:57am - 5076 days	#27
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by PinkPanther: It's interesting, because ALS Scan is an example that very much relies on member feedback in terms of what material gets released when. They poll members when they post samples from the sets after a new shoot or when they shoot a new model. And they encourage members to e-mail their opinions about samples posted in blogs - and these type of member feedbacks are the main elements that they use in determining their release schedule. But then we see some PU's posting bitter comments about their dislike of waiting to see scenes that aren't the most popular sets or vids or that members haven't been clamoring for via e-mail. It just goes to show - you can't please everybody no matter what you do. Sites need to aim to please, do what they say they're going to do, and have a certain amount of thick skin to not get offended by the criticism that they'll hear no matter what. But that's just the beef I have with most sites (unless I misunderstand your comments): they don't try to please everybody. They try to please the majority taste of the moment, which is only good business. This forum often does not give a true picture of what the majority likes and wants. If Brazzers is full of enhanced boobs it's because most red-blooded American males like big, perfectly rounded breasts, natural or not. If VideoBox or Videosz keep offering one Gonzo style update after the other it is because that's what the majority likes. VideoBox even feature a utility to edit the clips down even more until only the action is left. I can't see any other reason for its existence. You will see this in picture sites and DVD sites alike: young porn users are impatient with any sort of "foreplay" and want to get straight to the action. In picture sets the models are undressed by the middle of the first page, in Video sites the action starts 10 seconds from the beginning. If you are referring to me when you mention "bitter" comments, they are wistful rather than bitter. ALSscans surveys are nothing but an attempt to find out what the majority wants, nothing wrong with that .. as I keep saying that's good business, but you can't blame users like me for being wistful when we are being ignored by the big guys because we are not the most profitable demographic.
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01-30-11  09:32am - 5076 days	#25
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Thedebilman666: I noticed that only negative reviews get all the attention of the webmasters and I never read a thank you for positive, promotional review. Fuck 'em all, greedy pigs. This is exactly why I "hit and run" and never stay a concurrent member of any pay site, they don't give a shit about you, just your $$$. You haven't been around long enough then, 666. I have seen many grateful thanks in connection with a positive review. I have even seen grateful responses to negative reviews. While in some cases the sincerity of the webmaster could be doubted there were others who made an honest effort to improve in the area in which a lot of reviews found them wanting.
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01-29-11  01:14pm - 5077 days	#20
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by jberryl69: Geez, this seems so much like a Catch 22 messmer - If you don't ask and you only rely on the numbers that are generated by what is downloaded from what you put up, that is a pretty crappy marketing survey. And I don't think they change because they think they can continue to put out the same of crap. Except - On another thread, Jonni Darkko asks the participants of that thread if they preferred a pop in the mouth vs a spray to the face. Overwhelming those that answered said pop in the mouth. So now we will see what he does with this info (Should be used for Throat Fucks 3). Now that would be a change wouldn't it? If producers would ask what people want to see then we'd have a shot but most just don't care. "Ok - everyone jerk off on her face" Sorry, jberryl69, but I'm afraid I don't quite catch your drift. Blame this on English being my second language. I don't want you to think I'm ignoring you, either, so maybe if you could restate the point you are making in another way?? My point was that all porn sites, just like other businesses, are driven by the law of supply and demand. They are not going to stock too much of an item that's in low demand but instead keep the shelves stocked with the stuff everyone wants at the moment. And therefore all the daily updates with girls in socks and sneakers!
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01-29-11  12:56pm - 5077 days	#15
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by lk2fireone: I also realize many people either don't understand my attempts at irony/humor, or don't appreciate my irony/humor. I got it first time around, lk2fireone!
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01-28-11  01:58pm - 5078 days	#17
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Denner: So some WMs may be polite and give polite answers here - and even listen - but - again generally - I do not think they make (serious)alterations because of our inputs... You are right, Denner. As with all businesses they have to offer to their subscribers that which sells the most. I have watched in frustration as all those little girls in their sneakers and socks and short, plaid school skirts and cotton panties are being featured in update after update. (As we discussed in another place yesterday) I have complained, to the point of actually upsetting some webmasters, that the taste of more mature people, wanting more mature clothing on anyone over twenty, is being ignored. However, if an update I like is only being downloaded by twenty people while the "little" girl is being downloaded by thousands, then the handful of people who agree with me in this forum will receive soothing noises but will never see a change unless tastes themselves change. BTW, I appreciate the soothing noises, though!!
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01-28-11  01:31pm - 5078 days	#8
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Advent, I think Khan is right if he puts the figure at one in a thousand when it comes to the average Porn User. The single ones wouldn't want to escort their dates into a sexy calendar adorned room, and the married ones would not want to face the wrath of their significant others. Women can be funny that way! My spouse tolerates my Porn habit but would not be happy if I did it openly in front of her. She reads her book or watches her TV while pretending to herself that I'm looking at news headlines on the Internet. A calendar on the wall would confront her with the stark reality that (even though I love her more than anything) I still like to ogle pretty women at the same time, because boys, no matter how old, still will be boys!
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01-27-11  10:01am - 5079 days	#34
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by turboshaft: I'm always curious what all the hardcore self-proclaimed libertarians think when it comes to cases like Max Hardcore's--why is it the government's business what consenting adults do with their private sex lives and interests, including their porn viewing habits? Would current "libertarian" nutbags like Glenn Beck or Ron Paul give a damn what happens to someone like this as long as their taxes start to go down or disappear? Or why is it that the 1st Amendment (covering free speech) is more open to interpretation than, say, the 2nd (right to bare arms)? How messed up is a society when sex and drugs are more scary, not to mention more criminal, than building a personal arsenal, or refusing medical insurance? Just my own cynical but I have no idea what will happen now that Max is out. I hope for his own sake he just says "Fuck it!" and leaves this country for some place that doesn't have such a puerile interest in imaginary "morals" that are more about restricting freedom than instilling decency in people. I don't like his movies that much either; they make me feel about the same way I do when I slow down to try and look at an accident on the side of the road--guilty, ashamed, yet somehow helpless. But these are really just my opinions, and seeing as he was all about testing, consent, and legally aged models I don't see what the fucking problem is. If he breaks into my home to drag some poor girl to piss and puke all over the carpet then I have a problem (well, actually a couple of problems) but until that occurs...grow up and try imprisoning some real criminals! (I think this is a RagingBuddhist-worthy rant. ) Nice rant, turboshaft. RB would be proud of you, and I do agree with your observations!
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01-27-11  09:55am - 5079 days	#21
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Drooler: I wasn't trying to understand your point. I was just making my own. Fair enough!
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01-26-11  09:39am - 5080 days	#18
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by graymane: Pardon my continuing to beat a dead horse, but let me try and get my point served on this matter again another way: Nature has already given woman's legs the absolute perfect cover-apparel: It provides a significent measure of warmth, as well as evaporative functions, resistance to wear an' tear, regenerative powers, thickness against the cold .... and with all that, provides an unmatched aesthetics. The soft, smoothing beauty of this substance would be cost-prohibitive if sold commerically by the yard. BUT nature gives it to us for FREE...untainted by the cosmetic garbage sold in stores. It's called "Skin." Hi graymane, I'm not ignoring you .. I'm on my way out the door. Please see reference in post below (above?).
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01-26-11  09:38am - 5080 days	#17
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Drooler: For me, it's false. I actually like to see women strip out of regular clothes, the kind they'd wear for a casual day out. I pay more attention to what they are revealing than what they are removing. I think you misunderstand the point I was trying to make, Drooler. And that was that many photo web sites have become too "girlish," in the sense that they feature too much attire that would be worn by under-age girls. That they cater to those who like this sort of thing rather than to the few of us who would like to see things a bit more mature. No, I don't mean Grannies, just the typical things worn by anyone over twenty. Don't see too many over twenty wearing socks and sneakers! Well, maybe some do! In my case nice, erotic lingerie is a definite bonus but I don't expect to see that too often because the modern woman expects comfort. As my friend graymane stated, most porn hounds are probably content with "skin," while I've seen so much of it I like to see some embellishment to it. And I have nothing against a woman stripping out of regular clothes.
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01-25-11  07:05pm - 5080 days	#19
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by lk2fireone: I suppose one reason for buying a DVD instead of joining an Internet site is to leave less of a trail. Depends on how paranoid you are, or if you could have serious problems if a hacker/whatever got a trail of your online porn activity. Nah, I don't think the Admiral would have a problem with leaving a trail, or being blackmailed by a hacker. Not here in Canada since even Cable Providers carry at least a couple of porn channels that show hardcore DVD scenes around the clock. Which speaks directly to the Admiral's question: why would anyone pay $ 40 CA when he can subscribe to an adult channel for $ 14.95 a month. I don't have an answer either. Edited: Sorry, I just realized that I was answering an old, old reply. Forget what I wrote. Edited on Jan 25, 2011, 07:11pm
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01-25-11  06:53pm - 5080 days	#29
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by rearadmiral: I was watching a Max video last weekend (yes, I'll admit I'm a bit of a fan of some of his stuff) and I noted how he went out of his way, in a monologue before the action started, to remind the viewers that they were about to see acting. All models were legal, and all consented. Max is also the only director/producer I'm aware of who runs an ad telling people who are sexually active to be careful about STDs and get tested. As much as Max creeped a lot of people out, i'm still convinced that he was targeted by the religious conservatives. I never minded Max because his videos were so ludicrous. There was always this Little Red Riding Hood in her mid twenties, made up to look like a teen, pleading in a girlish voice for the big bad wolf to spare her. I can still hear it in my nightmares: "What are you doing, Mister?" as Max was putting on his monster act. He was crude, he made me cringe .. but jail?
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01-25-11  06:32pm - 5080 days	#14
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Denner: "Give them socks, sneakers and printed little cotton panties if at all possible........" They do it with mature women - I hate it... They do it with teens - I hate it.....WHY try to make a teen look under aged when doing porn or just posing - and making a porn scene with a teen in clumsy sneakers and socks.. I hate is as well but it appears that every picture site is going that way. There are so few photo sets a la Teenfuns that it is a real miracle if one update every two weeks (and that's any given picture site) is anything like theirs used to be. I never subscribed to the sites you mention but kept running across samples of theirs on the usenet. Flimsy nighties, high heels, stockings, aah, the good old days.
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01-24-11  04:03pm - 5081 days	#9
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Capn: I can appreciate your point of view, but I would have thought it would be more likely...... 'Make sure they are fully shaven & with as many piercings & tattoos as you can find. Oh & big fake tits while you are at it!' Cap'n. ( Wheres the face/palm smiley ? ) Ooooh, I forgot all about the stuff in the second memo because that was mainly directed at the DVD sites with a cc: to the pic ones.
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01-24-11  04:00pm - 5081 days	#8
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by otoh: Tempting as it was, it would have been in poor taste to mention it in the other recent breast-related thread... but here it's fair game. So I reckon all those folks who go for fake boobs should just sign up to Mastasia and be done with it Mastasia, now there's a new one for me! Wow, talk about "supersize me!"
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01-24-11  03:56pm - 5081 days	#7
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by mistresskent: Just thought I'd let you know... I've just started my new project xx I'm so chuffed with the stuff I've done so far.. No socks, I promise! Aw, God luv ya, mistresskent! I am almost willing to become a submissive at the thought of no more socks. And I know that in your case I could expect a lot of sexy, alluring lingerie! Yum!!
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01-24-11  03:52pm - 5081 days	#6
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by lk2fireone: TRUE! It takes a real pervert to ogle a woman past the age of 30. Three cheers for real perverts!
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01-24-11  02:18pm - 5082 days	Original Post - #1
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Webmasters of Photo Sites to their photographers: "Please ensure that your models look as little-girlish as possible. Give them socks, sneakers and printed little cotton panties if at all possible. We can't seem to give away real women in real women's underwear to our present subscribers!" True Or False?
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01-21-11  06:51pm - 5084 days	#8
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Advent: That just breaks my heart. I feel so bad for her family. Yes, we all do, Advent. Especially since it's so unnecessary except when it is done for medical reasons.
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01-21-11  06:48pm - 5084 days	#7
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by biker: This is sad. I wish, just like messmer, that the young women would stop this. The sad thing is, judging by the usual reaction to this topic in this forum, that very few porn users actually like enhanced breasts.
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01-21-11  06:44pm - 5084 days	#6
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by jberryl69: ok, just tell me what she was trying to get "fixed" - ?? http://www.sexycora.com/englisch/galerie11_e.html Good question, jberry. By the looks of that link she might have had the operation to reverse a boob job??? It would still be sadly ironic if she got the enhancement done in the first place and that the attempt to return to natural killed her. I fervently wish those girls would stop listening to producers, webmasters, husbands, boy friends, the very rare porn user, as well as to that inner voice that keeps telling them that a breast job would really enhance their beauty and therefore their self-esteem.
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01-21-11  02:49pm - 5085 days	Original Post - #1
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	She died under the knife while having a breast enlargement. Two doctors have been charged with man slaughter. I really wish that women stopped that foolishness, there's nothing wrong with small or saggy breasts. They are natural, they are cute! What a waste, all in the name of vanity and some men's appetite for large breasts, natural or not! http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/0...ref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
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01-20-11  09:28am - 5086 days	#15
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by mbaya: I would never join his site. Not being able to download is just ridiculous. The tour did not entice me either. Some of the winners sure make you doubt the value of the awards and the method used to determine the winners? Brazzers? Andrew Blake? Abby Winters .. A website infamous for having split up a great site out of sheer greed? Ridiculous!
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01-19-11  04:11pm - 5086 days	#11
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Shap: I can't believe AndrewBlake's site won in our category. It looks like all recycled content ;( Did he win or was he just alphabetically in first place, Shap?
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01-19-11  11:38am - 5087 days	#13
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Shap: We definitely had a problem with that in the past. I've worked hard to make sure we keep it under control. Sometimes it flares up but we try to keep things as natural as we can. Thanks, Shap. That's good to know. Nothing like natural, even if some imperfections should show up now and then. To me this adds to the value of a set.
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01-09-11  01:30pm - 5097 days	#27
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by elephant: I agree porn can be so addictive and I have been in the past slightly obsessed with getting new stuff instead of appreciating what great stuff I did have, it got to a point were I wasn't even really ever looking at some videos from sites and just storing them all on hard drives never to be viewed and then looking for newer stuff. It all came to a stop and I thought, take a step back here, porn can be great but let's not go over the top with it. I now feel at a much better place and just limit my time devoted to it all. I'm not sure I would disable my account here, I would just not visit for a while which I have done in the past and just pop in when I choose. I'm certainly not a known member here though, I just like to visit now and again and see what's new and read some interesting discussions in the forums. I can see how people do get addicted to porn and they for a while shut out porn and give up with it, not saying this is what has happened to RB. I did too like his posts and hope he returns. Sounds like something I do. I often download to my hard drive material that has yet to be looked at, while at the same time I'm forever looking for something new and different. Or something old that has gone out of fashion! But now I have a good reason to continue doing this: Here in Canada more and more ISPs are imposing a monthly bandwidth limit with a hefty extra charge if you should go over it, and if you wish to keep downloading HD movies to your heart's content you might end up getting a monthly bill charging you for the extra gigs you've consumed that might very well give you an attack of the organ I just mentioned. At least this way I will have a weapon if my ISP ever decides to go that way: I'll simply cancel my Internet access. I would miss some things like the convenience of email and all the spam addressed to "Sue" (who the hell is this Sue?), but reading a news paper or good book ain't bad as a substitute, and in between doing those laudable things I will start with the oldest Porn file on my three external drives and work my way through them. I should be finished by approx. 2021 (or before, if nature intervenes .. remember the Mayan calendar, as well as the average life span)!
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01-09-11  01:14pm - 5097 days	#17
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	What an idiot (Lightspeed)!! For many of us the name Tawnee Stone still brings back memories of youthful, unspoiled beauty and while the name may be the property of this skunk, the model was and is real and some people who liked her and followed her career would have been quite upset by this stunt! Shame! I hope Lightspeed won't make a penny out of this!
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01-09-11  01:05pm - 5097 days	#123
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Capn: As has been suggested earlier in this thread, I wish a site would pick up on the Village Ladies style and do it in a more up to date fashion. There is a lot of unexploited mileage in the idea IMO. Sophisticated youngish & mature ladies, nicely dressed, both formal & casual, who you would think would never dream of taking their clothes off for the camera. Prim & proper. Have them do a nice slow strip to clear full frontal nude! Even after all these years, it still sounds a great idea to me! Cap'n. To me, too, Capn!
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01-09-11  01:05pm - 5097 days	#122
messmer (0) Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada	Originally Posted by Capn: Is anyone here a member of Tease FactorE? It seems to be a new site on topic. I did post a comment about that site, but got no response. Cap'n. Just took the tour. Not a Teddy, Camisole, Full Slip, Garter (Suspender) Belt, Stockings in sight. Not for me, I'm afraid.
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