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11-18-10  06:23pm - 5148 days #8
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


So far, three people have responded in agreement to Denner's disdain for tattoos - now I'm adding a fourth. And we're all over 50. Coincidence? I don't think so. I do think tattoos are, for the most part, another generational preference - like the shaved vs. natural debate.


Denner won't like this, he's only 48! But I get what you mean and happen to agree .. there are definitely generational preferences, that's why it is so hard for those of us over fifty to find something we find exciting. The market usually caters to the young and we are increasingly being left out.
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11-18-10  11:33am - 5148 days #11
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Originally Posted by mistresskent:


Its a shame that the reviewing process seems to "highlight" unlimited trials as a good thing.. otherwise I'd certainly stop them!..

The good tour?? - I'm working on that already. x


You are more even tempered than I, mistresskent! If I were a webmaster and had to watch the abuse in connection with unlimited trials day after day I'm afraid my blood pressure would force me to abandon trials and let the chips fall where they may.

Believe it or not I have not ever subscribed to a site on a trial basis because I know I would most likely take advantage of their "unlimited" offer and would feel guilty if I downloaded too much for my $ 1.99. But then I'm a bit of a queer duck!

It's just that I feel if people put their money into a labor of love (talking now about smaller specialized sites not the Mega Sites) they should get a financial reward out of it.
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11-18-10  10:34am - 5148 days #15
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Originally Posted by squirrel:


"Sex robots."

First guy to make a really good one will be a BILLIONAIRE.


And technically it wouldn't even be cheating! Still, I can see the reaction of my wife if she should open the closet door where I keep the robot: "What the h...?!?! Get that artificial hussy out of here or I'm gone!" I think I'll keep my extra hard drives instead!
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11-18-10  10:22am - 5148 days #8
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Location: Canada 		I think I feel the same about those unlimited 3 day trials as I do about downloading freebies. Someone with a high speed connection can download a considerable amount of material for $ 1.99. In this case what's the difference? The site owner is being robbed, but seeing that they offer the trial in the first place ..... ??? If I were a site owner I wouldn't have trials but have a very good tour instead with top notch samples to help people make up their minds.

Same as I can't understand those who rip a site. Why would they want all the content if 80% of it will most likely not be to their liking (judging by my own taste). I most recently subscribed to two sites where I didn't download a thing for days at a time.

The behavior of site rippers reminds me of those reality TV shows about hoarders and pack rats.
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11-18-10  09:59am - 5148 days #12
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


Has anyone considered why Saudi Arabia made it on while Iran didn't? Both have terrible track records in women's rights so why take one but not the other? I'm guessing it has to do with politics in other areas between the U.S. and Iran -- which is sort of disgusting in itself.


You know, I wondered about that myself. Why lobby against Iran while at the same time keeping silent about Saudi Arabia? Could it be oil? But then Iran has oil as well so why? Is it because the Saudi Princes are a tad more enlightened than their subjects and try to bring about a snail's paced change while Iran's top leaders actually promote and encourage fundamentalist Islamic values?

But what do I know, much in this world doesn't make sense to me.
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11-18-10  09:49am - 5148 days #4
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Location: Canada 		I agree with you, Denner. A few discrete tattoos here and there might be fine but these days male and female talent alike are covered with them! My biggest shock was with ATK Natural and Hairy. All those models with tattoos and piercing .. a far cry from "natural." Of course, as someone else pointed out it is becoming natural in the real world so I guess in a way they are still being true to their niche.
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11-17-10  12:04pm - 5149 days #7
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I agree too, BUT on any panel shouldn't you allow both people who are for something (ie women's rights) and people who are against it, to get a representative range of views on a subject?

Whilst I firmly believe that women should have equal rights, I also believe that the UN should be a democratic organisation. It's a tricky situation.

It's rather like I hate the existence of the BNP political party here in the UK (their views and aims are scary) BUT in a democracy people should be free to stand for election, and everyone else should be free to vote for them. In that sense their views (providing they are legal) are irrelevant.


You make some good points, Ed2009. I took "panel" to mean a new body that ensures women's rights or speaks up for them, world wide. If it is just a forum where people simply express their opinions then, yes, both sides should be heard.
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11-15-10  10:14am - 5151 days #13
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


Thanks for the very thorough information Drooler. I searched the site for close to an hour and found nothing that indicated how the membership was structured. I've emailed them and wonder if they'll bother responding.

One other quick question. What happens if someone were to join through one of the sites that only becomes available on the second month (assuning that you can do that)? Is the customer then told that he can't actually access that site for another month? That's my worry.


That's not how it works, rearadmiral. If you join through the site you like you will get that site immediately. What does change from site to site is the bonus sites you get along with the one you subscribed to.
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11-10-10  06:29pm - 5156 days #356
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Canadians are some of our finest neighbors. Lots of Canadians move to LA and become big name actors. So we wouldn't deliberately nuke Canada. But because we Los Angelenos are basically a peace-loving peoples, we might not be too accurate in the nukes we are firing at San Francisco and Sacramento. In case any of those nukes happen to drop onto Canada, we are sending our apologies in advance. and to our good friends the Canucks.

Is Canuck considered offensive or derogatory by Canadians? I looked it up, and the source I checked said the term "Canuck" could be considered offensive slang. I never realized that before. Do many Canadians consider the word offensive?

Seriously, no offense intended.


Naw, you're safe on that one. Canuck is not offensive to me or to anyone I know .. unless their whole purpose in life is to be offended at something!
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11-10-10  06:22pm - 5156 days #12
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Unfortunately, I think there would be many who wouldn't take your altruistic, longer, broader sighted view.

'I'm not paying for the education of some lazy good fer nothin'

( This is not my view BTW, but I have often heard it said.
Especially when I was a student!
I am just trying to balance the argument & perhaps
being the Devils Advocate )

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"I'm not paying for the education of some lazy good fer nothin'"

I'm afraid you'd get a lot of that coming from the Red States, Cap'n! My argument would not be welcomed by lovers of unrestricted Free Trade and Laissez Faire Capitalism.
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11-10-10  02:54pm - 5156 days #7
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


Not necessarily related to the topic, I think that far too many universities offer and university students expect career training. In some applied areas (such as engineering, law and medicine) that may be true, but I think the real value of a university education is learning to think critically and gather evidence that leads you to a conclusion. But if we all did that people like Dr. Phil would be unemployed...


That's always been my view, rearadmiral. I have always told my friends and family that University taught me to think critically. To look at a subject from every angle, to NOT think black and white only, and I have been deeply grateful that my professors were liberal enough to allow us to find our own truths.

My remarks above were caused by an interview with an economist I watched on CNN the other day. He said, basically, the "good old days won't come back no matter how much the tea party may yearn for them.

Our manufacturing base has left for cheaper pastures (he was speaking about the U.S. but might as well have been speaking for Canada). What will save us is good old-fashioned American ingenuity, and a can do spirit by inventing things that didn't exist before and market them to the world. For that we need people who excel in science and currently America is in 27th place world wide when it comes to that subject!" (Paraphrased)

I tend to agree with him. We'll never get the factories back and outsourcing will continue as long as it can be done somewhere else more cheaply .. therefore give the kids who are gifted an excellent education, especially in science and if this means that I would have to subsidize education I'd go along with it.
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11-10-10  02:39pm - 5156 days #3
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I couldn't agree more. I've always respected the U.N., but this story undermines that respect. The Democratic Republic of the Congo is also in the running for a seat. The DRC has a record on violence agaisnt women that would probably make Iran blush.

If you're interested in the story, there is a great interview on the CBC website with Canada's former ambassador to the U.N., Stephen Lewis. It is an excellent listen. Search "cbc as it happens" and look for part one of the Monday, November 8, 2010 show.


The Democratic Republic of the Congo? Have they all gone crazy? And thanks for the tip. I visit the CBC site on a daily basis, as you might gather from the link I supplied!
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11-10-10  12:21pm - 5156 days #352
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Parts of the conspiracy are being exposed: East coast people who hate L.A. (and perverts from Northern California in the San Francisco/Sacramento regions) have long ago declared war on the beautiful city of Los Angeles. As patriots, we need to fight back, and send nuclear missiles to all regions East, North, and South of us. Since our nearest neighbor to the West is Catalina Island, I believe, and since we enjoy friendly relations with that tiny land-mass, we can save our Weapons of Mass Destruction for the real enemies that are surrounding our beloved city and county.

I live in the county of Los Angeles, not the city, but I urge both county and city residents to work together to destroy our enemies.

Perhaps we can get George Bush to lead this fight, since he did so well in the struggle against the Evil Empire. Or was that Ronald Reagan, who was fighting the Evil Empire? Is Ronny still available somewhere?




Aren't you just a tad harsh on the rest of us, lk2fireone? I think it's terribly unfair that you would nuke Canada, for instance, while the real culprits are dwelling in your midst in the form of producers, writers and directors who don't like to think outside their "home town" boxes?
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11-10-10  12:08pm - 5156 days Original Post - #1
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I've always been a supporter of the U.N., even though they are not too effective at times, but thought there was a place for them (through peace keeping, sanctions etc.) when it came to keeping things reasonably civilized on the international stage, but talk about disillusionment.

On a new panel for Women's Rights Saudi Arabia gets a seat! SAUDI ARABIA!!! Where women are not allowed to drive, where women are not allowed to vote, where women are not allowed to go out by themselves, where women can be arrested by the religious fashion police if they don't wear the traditional garb in public?? Are they kidding us?

This is almost enough to turn me into a conservative!

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/11/10...cy-iran.html?ref=rss
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11-10-10  11:55am - 5156 days #4
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Originally Posted by Capn:


There is no such thing as free education.
It will always have to be paid for somehow.

Unfortunately in the UK there is a glut of folk with degrees.
A degree is not the magic bullet for getting a decent career. I know of at least one fella with a degree who does a milk round.

Vocational training may be a preferable option for many.

Cap'n.


I agree completely. Same thing in Canada. A Bachelor's Degree, the most common being a BA (Bachelor of Arts) does not guarantee a job these days. This makes the high tuition fees even more of a burden on the individual.

I also agree that some don't want a University Education and would prefer to go the vocational route.

I was thinking more of bright young people who are well educated in Science because they are our future as far as I am concerned. If education were free then more of the gifted ones would be tempted to take that route.

And, of course, free education isn't truly free but I'd be happy to pay for it through my taxes if it ensured a good life for my grandchildren.
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11-10-10  10:05am - 5156 days #18
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Folk will tire of the commando look ( & hopefully shaving too).

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Ah, thanks for that optimistic statement, Cap'n. Lifted my spirit for the moment!
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11-10-10  08:28am - 5156 days #2
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Location: Canada 		The Brits, same as the Canadians and Americans are digging their own economic graves by making it impossible for many who simply don't have the money, but might very well be the next inventors of something great and different, to attend University. Our manufacturing jobs are disappearing so we are dependent on young, bright, well-educated people to come up with alternatives.

In Canada tuition fees are so ridiculously high that it takes an extra curricular job as well as a huge student loan to complete one's education. Many end up with bills as high as $ 40.000 when they finally get their degrees. Good way to start a career!

Higher Education is the most important tool we have to create a good future for all and in my opinion should be free.
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11-10-10  08:14am - 5156 days #15
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Originally Posted by Denner:


This is getting to be a 'hard' one....

I have to say I'm with Messmer most of the way - the way where I, too - have problems locating that or those sites with that dazzling content of sexy, beautiful grown-up women in the right outfit - the lingerie, the real high heels, stockings and really smell panties, thongs I think it's called - AND primarily in solo videos and sets - and a little dirty talk in the videos would be great, too...


I thought I read you right, Denner! Most of the way because thongs I hate, I like full back instead! Please let this forum know the moment you find a good site that meets most of our expectations. Eagerly waiting, messmer!!!
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11-10-10  08:08am - 5156 days #14
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Location: Canada 		Thanks, malikstarks, a very well thought out response. Experience forces me to say you are absolutely right in your assessment of the situation. I think the best thing for me would be to take a break, look at all the stuff I do have now, but have never looked at in detail, and wait for that evolution where more niche content will finally be provided.

Sad thing is my niche wasn't really a niche not so long ago. Pretty models in porn (not in the artistic nude sites) always wore sexy lingerie .. look at early ATK as one example, there was hardly an update without some erotic nightwear, underwear or something that embellished the body and teased a bit. Now the site is a disaster for me.
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11-09-10  06:50pm - 5157 days #11
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Karup's Older Women.

A bit too much silicon in parts, but well worth a look.

Cap'n. :0)


Do you really think so, Cap'n? Would it appeal to Denner, if I read his post right, or to me?

The reason I ask is because you seem to think that AO30 is still a good site (judging by your silence to my comment), so is Karup's OW something the same as AO30, featuring everyday clothes and everyday lingerie?

I know our tastes have quite often been similar but I also know that you like things like jeans and work boots etc. which are the antithesis of eroticism for me .. and trust me, there is absolutely no offense intended .. I am aware that tastes differ.

Someone just wrote me in another response that they disliked lingerie, something that shocked me because I thought that male and female alike were fans of fine lingerie, that that was a given, but outside of that nothing surprises me when it comes to others' preferences.

As a matter of fact I like the diversity, it's just that I keep taking tours of Karup's OW because it might be a viable alternative but don't see much eroticism, at least not in the samples.

Help me out here. You've stated in the past that if I dug enough you were sure I would find some good stuff .. but what do you mean by that?

Are there teddies and camisoles and flimsy nighties, and sheer and exciting (to me) undies and stockings and garter belts etc. or are you talking ordinary cotton underwear and thongs and tights?

Darn, I wish there were someone besides Mistress Kent who knew exactly what it is I am looking for.

Seriously, if you should see "disabled" beside my name soon it's because I'm about to give up the search. I've spent a lot of money on sites that only partially resonate with me during the last couple of months, hoping to find something that's terribly elusive and I'm tired of looking. Must be my age .. times have moved on and for the first time in my life I feel I've been left behind. Edited on Nov 10, 2010, 08:33am
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11-09-10  10:53am - 5157 days #8
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Originally Posted by Capn:


In the quirky area, you have Village Ladies, but that is stuck in an early '90s time warp.

Cap'n.


I agree with you here, Cap'n. Village Ladies could have been good if they had kept up with the times even though many of their models were far from memorable.

Same as I like many of the amateur, mature solo sites found in Southern Charms because the husbands/boyfriends seem to have a better idea what the average man wants when it comes to a good strip.

However the amateurish quality of many sets plus the fact that one has to subscribe to each model individually plus the fact that the pictures can't be zipped mitigate against that site, or collection of sites.
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11-09-10  10:44am - 5157 days #7
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Location: Canada 		Dear Denner, I wish you loads of luck in your quest. I've been on the same quest and have been to quite a few sites lately that are not exactly to my taste just because they contained some mature women and ended up mostly disappointed.

The Cap'n mentioned AO30 as a possible choice, I disagree with him for once. The mature material is there but it hasn't been very sexy. Neither have the models.

For instance, in the latest 3 month (fool that I was) subscription I got angrier by the minute because most of the models wore such everyday attire (jeans, jean skirts, drab dresses and skirts) with hardly anything underneath.

Maybe a thong now and then .. once in a blue moon even a bra and that for only half a page out of a set. Downloads were very few and far between for me. And compared to Anilos which I consider the better site even though they are not perfect either their videos are not quite up to the proclaimed HD quality. In any case, unless they go back to more erotic material, never again!

Sorry, Cap'n! Edited on Nov 09, 2010, 10:57am
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11-03-10  07:58pm - 5163 days #24
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Location: Canada 		I got the same e-mail regarding the Emma Maersk and how it was so large that it couldn't navigate the Suez Canal and that it's primary function was to carry goods from China to the U.S.

This was one week after I had watched a documentary on one of my HD channels about the maiden voyage of the Emma Maersk that took it right through the Suez Canal to a European Port and finally to the U.S.

Despite this distortion of fact people have every right to be concerned because many of our jobs have been exported and outsourced in the name of free trade. That's what happens when politicians accept money for their interminable election campaigns from Big Business.

People should ask themselves WHO received the most money before they get angry at the wrong guys.

As one economist suggested: the manufacturing jobs are pretty much gone .. what we have to concentrate on now is to do what America always did best: invent and build new things and sell those to the world ... but there's a snag.

In order to do that America's education system has to vastly improve. Teachers have to receive better training and need to be treated like professionals. A sad fact: At the moment "our kids (his words) are ranking 27th world-wide when it comes to Science."

End of his statement.
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11-02-10  06:35pm - 5164 days #11
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


I have a 23" monitor - I definitely prefer to look at older material in its original form. ALS does their remastered stuff and it usually looks like shit to me at the high res setting, looks much better smaller, so that's what I do.


I think I just found out the reason why so many are into those small hand-held gadgets. Just like you, they don't mind small. To me bigger is better and for that you need at least HI-RES! Long live diversity!
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11-02-10  03:07pm - 5164 days #26
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Originally Posted by BadMrFrosty:


I have a feeling that it was my review of norestnetwork.com that inspired messmer to post this thread

Like others here have said, it is the principle of the thing that really irk's me. The cost to the site to provide me with the content is exactly the same, regardless of where I live. Why should the price be different just because I happen to be sitting in Europe? It makes absolutley no sense. If the memberships were priced at what the market could bear, while still reprehensible, it would at least follow some kind of logic. But no, here I am sat in the Czech Republic where the average salary is considerably lower than that in the USA and I am expected to pay more for my porn? Something is certainly rotten in the state of Denmark.


Nope, it wasn't your review that inspired me to start this thread, BadMrFrosty. Let me say, first of all, that if a site is listed for $ 24.95 U.S. that's what you should pay, converted to the value of your currency, and NOT regional prices. So I am not in support of it.

This thread was set off by folks from Canada visiting Zurich having to pay 15 Swiss Franks for a MacDonald's Big Mac. That's very close to $ 15.00 CA, a price we would find outrageous yet which seems to be quite acceptable in Switzerland.

You can argue about the taste of my friends but it gave me the idea that someone in Germany, for instance, might find a price of 35 Euros or so per subscription not unreasonable because their hourly wages and benefits might be higher than ours and some web sites might take advantage of that fact. So I was hoping someone would come up with a ball park figure what people make in various countries.

This was stupid of me because reading the posts I now realize how many intangibles play a part when it comes to incomes and cost of living.

In any case, down with regional pricing!
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11-02-10  12:33pm - 5164 days #6
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Somewhere on the internet is a picture of me walking my girlfriends cat on a leash ... and he'll actually walk with you ... until he gets bored of it which means it's only a five minute walk. This awards category also alters the meaning of the phrase "I spent the night with a porn star and woke up with her pussy on my face".

Of course, leave it to Drooler to go all grammar police on my ass in a post about cats.


Shouldn't that be girlfriend's?
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11-02-10  12:14pm - 5164 days #8
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I mainly use a laptop for my porn.
The monitor is an LCD 15.6".
Pictures that are a lower resolution don't really look blurred, to me. Higher definition photos don't look any sharper in normal viewing.

The way to distinguish a higher definition photo from a lesser definition photo is if I examine a photo by enlarging it, so that I am only viewing a part of the entire photo on the monitor. That is when you can see that a photo has greater definition, because the details are more precise, less blurry, when you enlarge the photo so that only part of the photo is shown on the screen.

But when you view a photo in normal mode, the entire photo being shown on the full screen, there is no visible difference between a regular resolution photo and an ultra-high resolution photo.

I download photosets at the highest resolution available. But the truth is, I am wasting a lot of disk space doing that. A photoset that is 100 MB is just as good as the same photoset that is 400 MB or 1 GB.

If I were making posters of these photosets, then I would need the highest resolution possible. Because then the difference in the resolution becomes very apparent in a printed posted.

But on a 15.6" LCD monitor, there is no visible difference when viewing the photo in the regular way. You have to enlarge the photo, viewing only part of the photo to fill the entire screen, for the difference in resolution to become apparent.

I am assuming the photo was taken properly, in focus, well lighted, etc.

But even higher resolution won't make an out-of-focus photo appear to be in focus.

The difference in resolution is more apparent in videos than in photos. For videos, the higher the resolution, the more defined the moving picture you are watching, the better. More defined, more clarity, I don't know the proper terminology, but you get the idea. Higher resolution means better clarity for a video, and the difference is easily seen.

But for photos, the difference is not easily seen, unless you are making a poster, or you are examining the photo by magnifying it.

That is my understanding, anyway.

I look at a photoset sized 100 MB, and the same photoset sized 1 GB, and there is no visible difference in the photos. That is, viewing them in the normal manner.

I do view all my photos normally in full screen.

I sometimes watch videos in partial screen instead of full screen, because, as I said, the difference in resolution makes a big difference in the clarity of the video. And watching a lower resolution video in a smaller window makes the clarity seem better. Full screen video needs a much higher level of definition.


Okay, the smaller monitor would explain it. And you are right in everything else you write. If I have one set that is Hi Res and another one that is Ultra High Res I don't see the difference either if I want to see the whole picture on my monitor and not study it pore by pore.

As I said, I basically download Ultra Hi Res for one reason only: the future which will bring ever larger monitors for desk tops, and the fact that the set would look great on an LCD or Plasma TV screen when I finally get one that allows me to do that.

At the moment I have a 27" LCD HD TV but can't do anything else but watch TV with it. My son-in-law has a 42" Samsung and his Hi Res vacation pictures look spectacular on that. I can always dream!

But TVs aside, I had many picture sets on my hard drive from a couple of years ago that I had marked FV (for favorite) or KP (for keep)and they bit the dust recently because it was no longer a joy to watch them.

It was a sad day but better than the aggravation of seeing everything that used to look so good on a smaller monitor blurred all of a sudden! Maybe I should have got myself a lap top and kept looking at them through that!
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11-02-10  10:46am - 5164 days #6
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I am much less concerned about the resolution than messmer. As long as the pictures are erotic, interesting, whatever, I don't need high resolution. Actually, the old Playboy photos of their Playmates are plenty enjoyable for me, because many of the models are lovely, and the photography (by the photographer) is high quality.


What if that material is 800x600 and you have a new wide screen 21" monitor, lk2fireone? Does it not bother you that the picture now looks blurred? Or do you watch it in 800x600 rather than in full screen? I have my viewer set so it displays the full picture vertically and there is a definite difference when it comes to high resolution and the old material.

Super High Resolution on the other hand I don't really need, at least not at the moment, I think of the future when I download those sets.
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11-02-10  09:11am - 5164 days #2
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


I suppose this could have been a poll question, but for whatever reason, I decided to plop it in the forum.

I was wondering how many people go deep into the archives with sites that they join versus looking at the newest stuff.

I've got to say that there are many sites that I have been a member of where I have not plumbed much of the archives at all. I look at the updates and recent posts of new material and don't get very far into the depth of the site during my membership.

There are other sites - and this seems to be with solo-girl sites more than with other sites - where I'll be very interested in the archives. I think it has something to do with the fact that with solo-girl sites, it's easier to get a handle on the best period for the model - there is an ebb and flow to everything - and any solo-girl model that I'm interested in has periods when she looked absolutely stunning and periods when she didn't look quite as stunning or wasn't using the best photographer or got a shitty haircut when she hooked up for a site - which might affect dozens of sets.

It's harder to do that with a site like 1-by-day for me.



I very seldom go back farther than a couple of years when I join a site because the material found in the archives is usually of inferior quality when compared to today's. It does make sense to go back if one collects a certain model, then one will most likely be willing to put up with 600x800px pictures as one example, but I don't, so I usually start at a time when they introduced HD videos or High Resolution pictures.
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11-01-10  03:46pm - 5165 days #3
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Handing out awards for porn vids is sort of like handing out candy at Halloween, everyone seems to get something for just showing up. No one whose into online porn takes these things seriously or even follows them (do they?). Finally, there is an award that speaks to me ... and honors some hot pussy at the same time:

http://www.avn.com/galleries/Industry-Cat-Nominees-416323/416333/


Aw, you are such an old fashioned guy. What we want is something that is hairless and tattooed!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QeEmy7FM7Gs/Sj...less+cat+tattoed.jpg


Don't know how that link will work???
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11-01-10  12:13pm - 5165 days #19
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I think it is so much more erotic if a supposedly prim & proper lady, who gives the impression she would never take all her clothes off for the camera, does so.

Cap'n.


I think this is the reason why I keep picking sites with really mature ladies because they support the illusion that they would normally never do anything like take off their clothes in public. I know it's a fantasy but they make it easier for me!
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10-31-10  06:21pm - 5166 days #14
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Originally Posted by Secretease com:


That's a shame. However I'll definitely look into broadening the types of lingerie worn - especially slips. The site is mainly about the outfits. When you say it looks like another OTease I guess that's because of the lack of lingerie you like. It's definitely more explicit, as this Chloe Conrad sample shows - http://secretease.com/sample/chloe_conrad-sample.jpg

Good luck in looking. I couldn't find a site I liked 100% so I started my own


BTW. I mean it when I say you appear to have a very good site but your site and I definitely would have had problems with each other because my most common complaint beside the lack of enticing lingerie is usually in connection with the subject of "enhanced breasts!" So consider yourself lucky I'm not a member .. there would have been some complaints re. models with obvious implant scars. See your link above. And again loads of luck and you'll do okay, mine is an outsider's taste so don't mind my comments.
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10-31-10  06:12pm - 5166 days #13
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Originally Posted by Secretease com:


Good luck in looking. I couldn't find a site I liked 100% so I started my own


Wish I could do that but my wife won't let me!
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10-31-10  06:08pm - 5166 days #12
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Keep doing what you're doing - it seems like you're building quite a nice site from everything I've seen.


I would agree with that. It's just not for me!
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10-31-10  02:25pm - 5166 days #9
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Originally Posted by Secretease com:


Can't help you with models over 40, but you'll find some full pantie sets on my site. I've gone for stockings and kneesocks with as much variety of bras as possible.

The main point of the site now is the girls show everything but keep most clothes on so the secretary/uniform fantasy continues all the way through the set. I started off doing some sets up to topless only, but soon decided to do something a little different.


I hope you have a good tour, Secretease, because I'm about to have a look. As opposed to my friend the capn I have no problem if any part of a uniform or normal clothes is kept on to the end as long as the model wears exciting lingerie and does reveal the interesting parts one way or the other sometime during the set.

10 minutes later: Okay, I am back from the tour. I am afraid it does not have a single set that I would desire to possess. Let me stress that I am sure yours is a good site with lots of lovely models but I did not see one single camisole, nightie, slip or half slip, garter belt and they are all part of what makes a set enjoyable to me. I don't like socks or stay ups and when it comes to stockings that's all I saw. It looks to me like another Only Tease except (according to your remarks) your site is more explicit. I wish you all the luck. I am sure many will enjoy it! Edited on Oct 31, 2010, 02:40pm
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10-31-10  12:48pm - 5166 days #7
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


I enjoy hardcore more than softcore and though I wouldn't go as old as 40's typically when talking about my favorite porn models I could stand for more sites dealing in natural models in their mid-20's to early-30's.

The teeny-bopper sites are good because the girls are usually natural looking. When I look at sites with older models they are typically pumped up with plastic. Why? Sure, I get they are combating age in what is a brutal business but women a little older can be beautiful in their own way.

I'm fine with the lingerie idea for young or old. On the teen sites it would help me feel less pervy. I like to imagine I'm fucking a 21 year old so there no need to dress her up to look like a 15 year old. LOL


Accurate observations, goldfish. Just one comment: you don't usually get a "pumped up look" with really older models, that's why I set the lowest limit at forty, but in the MILF age group (25 - 35) enhanceds sadly abound. I download very little MILF material for that reason.
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10-31-10  11:38am - 5166 days #5
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Oh, Oh, Oh............messmer got a point here......BUT do NOT keep that deal for models over forty - only!!!!

Getting tired of stripped socks, tennis shoes ect. at teen sites - both with hc and softcore content???

I AM!

WHY do teens has to been with rattail, pigtail, boring outfits and above all with those socks - and/or tennis/jogging shoes??

Does that make them more teeny? Or is it just a hoax to make some older models look younger...and a misunderstood deal to underline, that the models ARE teens - Man, everybody can see what and who they are...

BUT why do a lot of sites try that deal out with models that as a fact ARE teens - take a look at some of those sites with easteuromodels (you all know which they are) - and why does a fine site like Nubiles keep on that same deal.......Nubiles: Tell your providers that all those fake things are not needed for real teens...those socks, pigtails ect. Please, get back to the sexy outfits...

AND: Let's get some more of the OLD Nubiles deals where a lot of the teens had lingerie and/or high heels or alike - MAN, that soon forgotten sites, Fallen Angels Fun or Teens Funs had the nerve to get those teens into nice AND sexy outfits..including high heels, lingerie and such.

Messmer: A fine thread!!!




Well, I wasn't going to draw the forum regulars into this but am sure happy that you responded, Denner. I am fed up with the same things.

When I first started to frequent pay sites most of their models would be in some pretty exciting lingerie, at least in enough sets to make a subscription worth my while but nowadays it is almost impossible to find anything but the gear you described. Even in mature women!

I dropped AO30 over this, thought I'd try an old time favorite of mine Aunt Judy/Older Women .. no dice. Boring stuff day after day. Then came ATK Natural and Hairy and there, too, I end up rejecting one set after the other because there's absolutely nothing exciting in one cookie cutter set after the other.

ATK for instance has 8 picture sets plus two video sets as an update each and every day and I have, during the past eleven days downloaded ONE mildly interesting update I'll probably never look at again.

Something had to be done so in a desperation move I subscribed to Only Tease .. what the heck, it's not my cup of tea because I like my teases to end up in nudity, but at least I will be able to download some nice lingerie pictures.

Wrong:

Tights are in, thongs are in, while nylons and garter belts or full panties sets are few and far between. I have wasted more money during the past month on sites that let my taste down than I care to think of.

And this lamentable state of affairs is exactly what caused this challenge to anyone who might want to get into the business!
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10-31-10  11:18am - 5166 days #4
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Originally Posted by mistresskent:


You've caught mine.. does anybody else have your preferences Messmer?

I know my lingerie, I'm into mature models.. wonder if there is a need?

Not sure if I'd want to remember your card number though! x


I knew our preferences matched in certain areas, mistresskent!

I wonder about the need as well because I am still looking for MY site, surely this site would exist if there was a demand.

Or do you mean is there any need to set up a site like my dream one because yours matches it already in most aspects?
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10-30-10  03:02pm - 5167 days Original Post - #1
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Here's the deal:

a) If you build a softcore site where all the models are over forty,

b)where they wear more lingerie than just a general purpose bra and thong,

c)and if you use some landscape format shots in your picture sets, and

d) have regular updates (at least one a day .. you may alternate between high resolution pictures or HD video) ...

then I, Messmer, will subscribe and subscribe and subscribe until you know my credit card number by heart!

Since this group knows all my preferences by now and have seen them stated and restated in various threads there's no need to reply. Just trying to catch the eye of someone who is contemplating going into the porn business. Edited on Oct 31, 2010, 11:11am
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10-29-10  07:18pm - 5168 days #3
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Originally Posted by justme:


Other programs running in the background, pulling up webpages using IE's interface, caching the files in the temporary directory.

Not saying they're bad stuff, could be something simple like the weatherbug apps out there which pull up web data, store the temporary files there.


Ah, thanks, that makes sense, justme. I have a few apps running on my desktop so maybe they are the culprits. It didn't bother me because the temporary files hardly took up any space but I couldn't understand why I had MSIE files on my hard drive when I never used it.
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10-29-10  03:10pm - 5168 days #5
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Originally Posted by Khan:


It looks like what you're seeing is just what the site (porn.com) is putting in their "Title" Meta-tag (of the html page) We looked into it and while it looks like they may be trying to *appear* as a tube site to search engines, the site itself is still focused on being a pay site.

Just in case you're not aware ...

When you make a web page, you can make whatever youwant appear as the page title (and thus, in the browser tab). It's a simple matter of using one of the html meta tags. Generally, the title of the page will reflect what the page is about but there is no guarentee that'll always be the case.

Hope that helps.


It sure does help, Khan, thanks. I knew this was a pay site (I've been a subscriber a few times) but couldn't understand how they could identify themselves as a tube site when that goes against everything a pay site stands for. If they are using this strange method to lead search engines to their site then all becomes clear.
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10-29-10  01:25pm - 5168 days #3
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


Same here with IE.


You're a big help. squirrel! But I'm glad that others can't figure these things out either!
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10-29-10  12:19pm - 5168 days Original Post - #1
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I use CCleaner on a regular basis and it shows me on a daily basis, as I do the analysis, that something like 35 temporary Internet Explorer files have to be cleaned up.

Trouble is I never use I.E., I use Firefox only. How do I manage to acquire those temporary Internet Explorer files? Thanks.
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10-29-10  12:14pm - 5168 days Original Post - #1
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A couple of days ago I noticed that every time I clicked on the icon for Porn.com my tab in Firefox would read: "Porn: Free XXX Tube Porn." Where does the tube part come into play and why doesn't it simply read "Porn.com" on the tab. Usually when you click on a site, that's what you get, the site's name and definitely not a reference to free Tube Porn!

I left a comment at the site hoping that someone at TBP could clue me in but no one responded.
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10-28-10  11:52am - 5169 days #41
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Location: Canada 		I, too, was going to keep my nose out of it because Americans don't like foreigners commenting on their political system but I agree with Turboshaft ... the right has developed an incredible mean streak while the left are cowards because rather than follow their agenda they've been trying to build bridges to people who would automatically say no to anything a Democrat proposes. What makes things worse is that those damned, despicable campaign attack ads are now also being broadcast by the left. There's going to be another civil war yet .. both sides are so bitter and entrenched in their ideologies that I can't see a rational solution to the bloodless war that's already raging.
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10-24-10  09:17am - 5173 days #5
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


Do you consider video quality before joining a site?

I wanted to free up some disk space so I recently went through my porn collection to prune out video clips I rarely watched or was bored with. I sort my collection into folders by the site I downloaded them from. I found I have become intolerant of video of a certain quality and ended up deleting whole folders based on video quality.

Going forward, I think 640/720 x 480 at 2000k bit rate will be the bottom end threshold in video quality for me when I subscribe to a site. All sites will have older content of course but the new stuff will have to make the cut-off.


I agree with you and did exactly what you did only recently. Those old videos just don't look good on a modern wide screen monitor. 640x480 (or lower) videos with a total bitrate of around a 1000 are no longer enjoyable when viewed on today's machines.

I did the same with my 800x600px picture sets even though they contained many sets I had marked "favorite" at the time. I am just not sentimental enough to put up with crappy quality, at least when looked at through today's eyes.
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10-23-10  07:19pm - 5174 days #13
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


For those who possibly missed the message I was trying to put across, Allow me to attempt to be more specific:

I couldn't give a rat's ass whether This live Japanese performance ever again sees the light of day...here or elsewhere.
If one would read what I said more carefully, one would note that it's THE ACT OF A PORN PERFORMER TO USE THE INVISIBLE PARTNER CONCEPT RATHER THAN GOUGING THE FLESH OUT OF HER VAGINA....she goes through the same masturbatory motions but purposely gives us the illusion her brains are being fucked out....ideally by one of us perverts who are watching the action.


Sorry, Graymane, I did get the drift and think the whole concept would not help any illusion but simply look silly. I honestly can't imagine a scenario where a solo girl could successfully pretend that "her brains are being fucked out."

But, as we say so often, "different strokes for different folks" so this is not meant in a confrontational way. It just wouldn't work for me.
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10-22-10  10:02am - 5175 days #9
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Originally Posted by Denner:


This is the place to put the pressure on sites that do not tell their billing companies to GET RID of that regional pricing...!

And agree with Capn: It's a matter of principle.

I do not know if I did myself a - what do you call it: a disfavour......when signing up and agreeing to higher Euro-pricing on these sites:

Nubiles

Babespotting.tv

But I did it, because, I WANTED the material....and I regret it now - as a matter of principle - and this is a PU promise: I won't do it again.

Messmer: Generally an average "working man" in Scandinavia has an income of about $ 20 an hour - which is the minimum agreed with the labour unions - some workers coming in from the old east euro contries makes less, but thats another story.

Still: We tend to TBP for good pricing and lean on that/those deals here. So the it's a bummer to have to pay more - just because some bad asses feel they can make more money because of the still increasing difference between the US Dollars and the Euro....


Thanks, Denner, and to everyone for responding and giving me a bit more insight into this matter. I agree with all of you that regional pricing should be resisted as much as possible.

When I subscribe to a site I expect to pay whatever US $24.95 converts to in Canadian dollars and no more. I like Epoch better than CCBill for that reason because there always seems to be a small extra charge attached to the bill with CCBill.

I was just wondering if European companies sometimes charged extra because Europeans generally make more money than North Americans. I know that the European standard of living has been higher (at least in the countries I'm most familiar with) for quite some time when compared to North America, or at least my neck of the woods.

Thanks again to all, I appreciate the individual contributions to this discussion and would normally respond to each and every one but today, even though I'm retired, I have very little time because of a doctor's appointment, so must restrict myself to this one reply.
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10-21-10  07:22pm - 5176 days Original Post - #1
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I know everyone gets upset if a site's price is listed as
$ 24.95 US and they end up paying 24.95 Euros instead but wonder if the outrage is really warranted?

Without wanting to offend anyone, honestly. It's just curiosity motivating me.

Wouldn't it all depend how much the average European household earns in a month?

The reason I even bring up this touchy and controversial subject is because friends of ours just got back from Zurich where they paid SF 15.00 for a hamburger at McDonald's. The Frank is currently listed as .097 to the U.S. dollar. Quite obviously the Swiss don't believe that 15 Franks are too much for a burger while we would say I'll die first before I pay $15.00 for a Big Mac!

Can one of my European friends clue me in how many Euros are found in the average monthly pay envelope? I know that here in Canada, especially in the Atlantic Provinces people consider themselves lucky if they make more than 10 - 12 dollars an hour. Just curious.
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