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07-21-10  11:15am - 5287 days #14
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Originally Posted by pat362:


By definition "free Porn" cannot be stealing since it's free. Of course if that "free Porn" is actually material that was taken from paying sites or from movies and is being offered for free by that site then that is stealing.

Quite a few people justify their stealing by saying that the content was free or that they enjoyed the free stuff so much that they joined the site. I think most people aren't like Sevrin. He saw the free stuff and chose to find the site and join it. Most people will simply look for other free stuff.


I was like Sevrin. In the past I downloaded files from the usenet by subscribing to groups that catered to my niches until the appetite to get more from certain sites drove me to subscribe to them and I haven't looked back since. I'll happily shell out the money for the convenience of having everything at my finger tips.

I think most sites know the advertising value of some of the stuff found in newsgroups or they would have put a stop to the uploaders (through their usenet server) ages ago. It would be easy enough to threaten legal action unless they disabled the file sharer's account.

07-21-10  11:04am - 5287 days #137
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Just those simple lines say a lot about implants. There are lots of things you can do with women's breast but wondering what you just felt while fondling them isn't one of them and should never be one of them.

I guess the morale of this story is that implants can be nice to look at. Touching and playing with them, not so much.


At the risk of repeating myself, most implants aren't even nice to look at. One thing no one mentioned (I don't think) is that the larger ones also tend to flatten out the nipples which are a very attractive feature on any size breast for me!

07-21-10  10:57am - 5287 days #23
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Cotton panties rule.... To give credence to this wonderful fabric, might I quote the honorable Patrick Henry, who said: "give me liberty or give me cotton panties."
He ought'a know.


LOL. Despite the fact that I'm getting used to cotton panties, to me they are too utilitarian, as well as too innocent. Somehow they don't belong in porn because of their non-erotic nature in my universe.

Full coverage, nylon does it for me!

07-21-10  10:26am - 5287 days #8
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Originally Posted by mistresskent:


It should fix the issues with VLC as well as WMP. Download the codec, enlarge you page file. Set up and re-start.

You may have to set VLC as your default player again.

If not post here again and I'll investigate further for you x


Much obliged, mistresskent!

PS. Just installed the codec and it works like a charm on VLC, all I had to do was to reset the default as you suggested. Thanks a million! Edited on Jul 21, 2010, 10:49am

07-20-10  04:01pm - 5287 days #134
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Originally Posted by mistresskent:


Mine are ok when they are bouncing around and they are 100% real... If I had the choice I think I would definitely get them slightly reduced... something about titties with no bra underneath little vests. Yummy


No, no, no ... don't give people the idea that not wearing a bra is sexy! The misguided creatures already came to the weird conclusion that not wearing panties is hot! Pretty soon we'll all run around nude and that is boring.

Let me sing the praises instead of a nice, lacy, uplifting bra with matching you know what! Edited on Jul 20, 2010, 06:08pm

07-20-10  03:45pm - 5288 days #4
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Lorelei Lei was one of the female stars, along with Annette Schwartz, of the Milk Nymphos scene that was one of the 2 scenes and a video trailer that were at the center of John Stagliano's trial. This is an interview she did after the case was thrown out - smart woman:

http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movie..._lee_stagliano_trial


Very eloquent lady. I enjoyed the interview and Lorelei Lei's reasoning.

Thanks for the link!

07-20-10  03:25pm - 5288 days #6
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Originally Posted by mistresskent:


Sounds like a codec problem, maybe un-install current players and codec pack.

Download and install K-lite codec pack. It should have everything you need.

Are you using matroska codecs? If so, check for the latest versions.

Large files need to buffer before playing, your page file on your computer will only hold so much memory, you can enlarge your page file by going into your system settings.

Advanced settings on virtual memory may help.

Hope that helps. x


My VLC player is acting up just the way Denner describes. My WMP player plays the files just fine but seeing that I prefer VLC because I can adjust the sharpness and therefore have it set as my default player I don't want to switch to WMP. If I took your advice and downloaded a K-lite codec pack and installed it would that solve my problem with VLC? May be a stupid question, if so my apologies.

P.S. I did enlarge the page file but the problem persists.

07-20-10  03:11pm - 5288 days #14
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Easier said than done. We don't think we are addicted to porn, or to searching for and downloading new porn. But it wouldn't be easy to stop looking for new porn to add to our collections. It would be like giving up cigarettes, or giving up alcohol. I gave up smoking many times during 30+ years, before I was finally able to quit entirely.


It probably would be quite hard, especially since I use the Internet for stuff other than porn as well, but I think my proverbial (dreaded by my kin) stubbornness would somehow see me through.

There was life before the WWW and between computer games (much neglected lately) and my 2.6 TB stash of Porn I think I might be all right!

07-20-10  02:58pm - 5288 days #19
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I thought I was alone in hating thongs!

I'm a fan of cotton pant(ie)s too, and those don't seem to be too popular.


I think that must be your perception (or location), Ed, because here in Canada / the U.S. all you seem to see in lingerie and department stores is cotton. Somebody must like it! Darn it!!

Oh, sorry, didn't I just get finished saying that I'm starting to get used to cotton .. along with pubic baldness. I guess the prolonged exposure to both is starting to seep into my subconscious and helps make those formerly intolerable innovations acceptable.

Either that or I simply came to the conclusion some time along the way: The hell with it, trends in various fields are overtaking me, leaving me bewildered (how can anyone like rap music or hip-hop? Or cotton?) and there's not a darn thing I can do about it, so why fight it? Just accept before you pop a vein.

07-20-10  02:14pm - 5288 days #9
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I'm with Bell Aliant in NB which for now imposes no download limits. Rogers does, and I read recently that Bell Canada applied for the ability to impose limits. If you have a service provider other than those two you're lucky, but if a smaller ISP buys access from one of those two then the restrictions may still be imposed.

I have a family member who works for Bell Aliant who said the business case for imposing limits isn't there. That tells me that those who do impose them are just being pricks.

On a related note, Netflix has said they'll be operating in Canada by the fall. I suspect a lot of new Netflix customers will learn the hard way that their ISP imposes limits when they get the bill for data over the limit.


I was thinking of Netflix when I wrote about more and more streaming content coming down the pipe on the internet and therefore the need for greater speed. I was also thinking, when I read your original post, how ridiculous it was in this day and age to impose download limitations. The streaming of a couple of HD movies a week would pretty well take care of one's monthly quota. Nothing but greed on the part of Rogers / Bell Aliant.

My ISP is Eastlink Cable (Nova Scotia based but expanding into other areas) and they've given me their word that they will never impose limitations. If they ever went back on their word I would truly unsubscribe from their service and feed off my extensive stash for the next ten years instead! I don't reward greed!

07-20-10  02:02pm - 5288 days #17
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


I think lingerie, and just clothing in general can be sexy. I had one girlfriend who used to try on outfits for me and I couldn't believe how sexy it was watching her change and model them for me. It quickly became a regular pre-sex event.


Yes, I like the "trying on" part as well, Goldfish! Or the caressing of a wonderful, warm, soft body that's wearing something thin and silky. Goes wonderfully with the subtle scent of a good perfume. Call me a hedonist!

07-20-10  01:46pm - 5288 days #16
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


Uh-oh! Cotton panties... Messmer hates cotton panties I think. I, on the other hand, love cotton panties.


Well, both you and graymane can put your minds at rest about me, www, for some reason my brain has accepted cotton in the meantime. I still prefer silky and glistening and impractical nylon and silk but no longer make a fuss when I come across cotton. Thongs I still hate with a passion.

07-20-10  09:31am - 5288 days #7
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


In Canada many (maybe most) ISPs put low monthly download limits on users that makes the issue even more difficult to deal with. If you find a site capable of 5MB/sec downloads but are then only allowed 60GB without high additional costs then the value of a high-speed service is questionable. My ISP doesn't impose limits (yet) but say that anything over 250GB per month is considered questionable. I can easily download that in a month with some decent memberships.

Are download limits imposed by ISPs common in the U.S. or Europe?


My ISP too sets no limits. I've threatened to cut off all business with them (telephone, cable, Internet) if they ever do. They have promised faithfully to never restrict me.

07-19-10  06:49pm - 5288 days #2
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I recently upgraded my internet connection to a 10MB/sec fiber-op system. That�s the basic available with this ISP and they currently have services of up to 70MB/sec available and are planning up to 170MB/sec within a year. I don�t use the internet for much. For me, my computer is one big porn magazine that lets me also read newspapers from around the world. I�ve never found a porn site that allows greater than 2MB/sec download. What on earth would someone do with a 70 or even 170 MB/sec connection? What kind of sites and what kind of material is available at those speeds?


I am currently subscribing to an ISP (Cable) that gives me a 30MB/s connection but find that in most places you are restricted to a much lower speed anyway. It does make a small difference in that files that downloaded from some sites at 1.6 MB/s before are now doing so at 2.7 - 3MB/s if it's a single download through DTA.

So is it worth it? Probably not at the moment, but I think there will be more and more high quality streaming coming on line and there a fast connection might be just what's needed.

07-19-10  06:34pm - 5288 days #12
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Originally Posted by Capn:


We have to keep banging away at this, my friend.

Our tastes are similar enough for us to have common interests.

Cap'n.


Indeed our tastes are similar enough in most ways, Capn. The biggest difference is that I don't really mind if a model keeps her stockings on to the end as long as the rest of her is bare! But if she wants to take them off that's fine with me too and I'll support you in your quest.

07-19-10  12:53pm - 5289 days #10
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Originally Posted by Sevrin:


French porn seems to be pretty hardcore these days. If lingerie is your focus, though Art-Lingerie seems to be fairly softcore and features a nice mix of US and Euro models.


Thanks for the suggestion, Sevrin. I actually have Art-Lingerie lined up as a potential future site to subscribe to because I think it might come close to what I am looking for. I am just waiting for some mostly unsatisfactory subscriptions to come to a merciful end so I won't have too many going at one time. In the meantime I thought it might be nice to hear about some French sites. If lingerie is important to men and women alike (in France) then one couldn't go wrong subscribing to one. Edited on Jul 19, 2010, 12:56pm

07-19-10  12:48pm - 5289 days #9
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Messmer is certainly NOT the only one here who tends to lingerie, badandy...LOL

....get back to you here, Messmer - right now pretty busy with vacation preparations...


Thanks for the encouragement, Denner and enjoy your vacation! Edited on Jul 19, 2010, 12:55pm

07-19-10  12:46pm - 5289 days #8
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


It seems that once every few months you come on here asking about lingerie. When are these porn producers going to realize that MessmersLingerieShack.com would make a killing. The could at least count on a lifetime membership from you!


LOL. You got that one right, badandy. One question to all the respondents: was the (French) commentator right when she stated that all men love sexy lingerie on their women?

She seemed to make a contradictory statement a bit later on when, talking about the American male, she mentioned that many men get turned on if their significant others wear nothing under those skirts? Is that true? If it is then the scarcity of lingerie sites (or sets of pictures that feature lingerie on ordinary sites) would finally have an explanation. We should have a poll on that!

07-18-10  06:30pm - 5289 days #4
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Originally Posted by justme:


Explicite-Art probably the closest.

Otherwise, the government of France decided some years ago to tax porn into oblivion, hence a void of French porn.


And more trivia, the bikini was designed by a Frenchman and named after the shock and awe of the Bikini Islands h-bomb tests


Too bad about the taxes because Explicite_Art appears to be mostly a hard core site! (Just took the tour). But thanks for the tip, justme!

07-18-10  04:23pm - 5289 days Original Post - #1
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Last night I watched a show on TV that featured lingerie as its theme and the hostess talked about its importance in some cultures. Germany and the U.S., for instance, rated pretty low on the list with most women spending only a tiny percentage of their income on lingerie and they were more interested in everyday comfortable "underwear."

French women on the other hand adored lingerie because it made them feel more beautiful and also enhanced their sex lives with their partners. In their eyes all men adore lingerie (not Wal-Mart underwear) so it was a win-win situation ... which brought me to the obvious question: anyone know of any FRENCH porn sites?



P.S. Interestingly enough, according to the hostess, French women hate thongs because the allure is in the hiding (in a sexy way) not in the revealing. Boy, I love those French!

07-12-10  10:44am - 5296 days #47
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Yes, dull, not 'doll' - of course not..
But we - some friends along watching - were disappointed. Here was maybe 'the match of the year' with the two best teams.
What made it 'not really good' was two factors:
The roughness instead of skill with 'elegance'..only Spain showed some of that.
AND the fact that the Dutch 'digged' themselves down (a bit hard in English this) - they slowed down the Spanish attack, played it too safe without much to show in their own attacks - like in the other matches. Of course it was their tactics to try to hold back Spain - but still it's a pity of what could have been a great match...



Your argument is sound, Denner. We enjoyed the match immensely but the flaws were there and it could have been a better game. Nevertheless it was still a nail biter for us.

And it turned out well because both my wife and I had decided to cheer for Spain! Felt badly for the Dutch, nevertheless.

07-11-10  03:24pm - 5297 days #44
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Originally Posted by Denner:


CONGRATS to Spain - and nostromo.

The best team won - (even if the game was doll and with way to many warnings - deserved warnings that is - too bad for a final)


I agree about the warnings but we didn't find the game dull at all even though it remained scoreless for a long time. And we (my wife and I) feel, just like you, that the best team won indeed! Congratulations Spain and nostromo!

07-11-10  10:24am - 5297 days #41
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Originally Posted by Denner:


We're getting close to find the champs.
Today/tonight guess/hope Germany will get back to their best - look forward to that game..
But even more: Tomorrow Spain-Holland - two great teams - may the best win.
Who said real football is boring? - I could name lots of other sports much more boring, but not enough space here......



Who will you be cheering for in another hour, Denner? I find it tough to pick a team since Germany has been eliminated. Maybe we should just cheer for the "beautiful game!" May the best team win, indeed!

07-10-10  08:52am - 5298 days #2
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I just took a membership to Porn.com. I downloaded two scenes and had no problems. The downloads speeds were approximately 1MB/sec. Then I tried a third scene (several times), then a fourth (several times) and a fifth (several times)... And the best I could get for a download speed was about 100kb/sec. On several attempts the download speeds was BELOW 20kb/sec.

Reviewers are all over the map with this site, and even the long-time PU reviewers seem mixed.

Any thoughts, or should I have saved my $9.99?


Porn.com and I have long had a love-hate relationship. I have no idea what makes their servers go like yo-yos. When they are good they are very, very good, when they are bad they are horrid. This is reflected in my comments and reviews of their site and sister site "Download Pass."

There might be a cure to your problems: recently (last time I subscribed) I started to use DownThemAll with Firefox and download speeds seemed to be more consistent (average 1.5 MB/s).

07-07-10  02:20pm - 5301 days #37
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Originally Posted by nostromo:


The spanish game is not boring, our whole team could play in a phone booth. That's jogo bonito .




Congratulations, nostromo! I was cheering for Germany but must agree that the Spanish team outplayed them today. A well deserved win ... and it's about time they got a spot in the finals!

07-04-10  06:31pm - 5303 days #23
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Why complain about the images of people's limbs being hacked off, of their faces being cut to pieces, of their guts spilling out, when you can make a living out of attacking pornographic circus stunts?


Wasn't I thinking of exactly that a few minutes ago when we were watching, for the first time, a show that came highly recommended by friends: "Criminal Minds" on A&E.

It might have been an exceptionally brutal episode but I was appalled that it should be rated PG and be so readily available to children in its early time slot, (hacked off limbs definitely played a part) while Porn is seen as the enemy, something that should be banned to a xxx ghetto.

No one is suggesting that it should be easily available to children but why is no one making a fuss about the daily brutality and violence and blood and gore on some of our main stream shows on the regular channels. To me the casual acceptance of violence is far more disturbing than any sex acts, except for the most brutal (which are illegal anyway), that I can think of.

07-04-10  10:47am - 5304 days #17
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Originally Posted by justme:


Seriously, nothing is wrong in the article, it all is a matter of perspective & percentages. The only universal truth to the porn world is that everyone's experience is different.


Still playing the Devil's Advocate, I see! Of course there's nothing wrong in the article if one holds the same views as the author.

And it's not about one's porn experiences it's about being called a woman hater for liking porn. At least that's seeing the article from my perspective!

07-04-10  10:40am - 5304 days #27
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Originally Posted by ByteMaster:


Ever regret starting a thread, I sure do


Don't! They are your fantasies and they give you pleasure, nothing wrong with that, and it was fun for us to take the subject and run with it even though, as usual, we went off-topic quite a few times. BTW, I admire your honesty!

07-03-10  03:08pm - 5305 days #10
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Depends on their salary.



I love women too, why the hell else would I be watching porn? Clearly it's not the cinematography!

If anything porn makes me disrespect men, not women! Why? Simple, because porn (at least the stuff aimed at us violent women-haters) focuses on the women instead of the men, and the men don't come off so hot; aggressive, rude, dumb, guffawing, fools, who frequently stumble around like the horny goofballs so many of the them seem to be because they get a boner for the pretty lady or ladies in the room. I get the impression that the women are doing something right because we get to see so much of them for the vast majority of the scene, whereas the get is lucky if we even see his sweaty visage for more that a few minutes.

Of course my views are probably skewed because I prefer all girl/girls only porn where it's implied that the women have their own orgasms and really get to enjoy themselves as they want. Hell, in the world in which those videos exist there are no men! That might be going a little too far...


Well said, especially in connection with the male actors or "interviewers!!"

07-03-10  01:48pm - 5305 days #7
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Originally Posted by justme:


Yea, that article sounds about right. Ever get a long-time pornographer to open up and talk about his views on the girls? It'll scare the shit right out of ya

Moral of the story is, ignorance is bliss


No doubt, pornographers get cynical after a while as do some, if not most, of the "stars!" But the article is nevertheless wrong in the message it tries to convey, that all Porn users are women haters! Clearly the author lacks insight into the male psyche.

I love women! There's not a single misogynist bone in my body and I've been watching porn for a long time. There might be some disturbed cases who thrive on violence but don't we find those throughout society?

07-03-10  01:34pm - 5305 days #34
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Originally Posted by nostromo:


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Nice blank space to congratulate Spain on its win a few minutes ago. I will be cheering for Germany, of course, so don't expect these warm feelings to last very long!

07-01-10  10:44am - 5307 days #16
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Evan Stone? Girls hate him? Have you talked to any girls that have worked with him? They love him! The guy's hilarious and gets great scenes out of most of the women he works with.


I think I said girls must shudder, not that they hate him, Pink Panther. And I freely confess that I might be wrong if indeed he is as charming and witty as some say.

My problem is I find him so ugly that I never download a scene that contains him because it would be ruined for me.

In my eyes he's right up there with Fabio as one of the ugliest men on earth. Yes, I know, women swoon over Fabio, too .. so let's take poor Evan off my list!


07-01-10  10:37am - 5307 days #15
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


If you look at some of the material on the "young and old" sites, you'll see guys that are ugly, and fat, and wrinkly and withering as well. Yet quite a few of the girls at least seem as though they're enjoying it. I mean girls like Lauryn May, Leanna Sweet, and Jasmine Gold. I guess they're just real professionals!


I don't believe any of that Old-Young material because I remember my youth and how turned off I was by any woman over forty when I was eighteen. They seemed absolutely ancient. For that reason I would rather have videos of my contemporaries (fifties and up) than those of teenies pretending to be excited over men twice or even three times their age. Remembering how I felt as a young man I simply can't build a fantasy based on that scenario.

Mind you, solo picture sets and videos of young women are a completely different thing. I do appreciate beauty in young and old alike. Edited on Jul 01, 2010, 07:10pm

06-30-10  12:41pm - 5308 days #7
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Originally Posted by Sevrin:


Not to mention that there's no chance of being converted to manlove.


There's always that, Sevrin! Not that there's anything wrong with it!

06-30-10  12:40pm - 5308 days #6
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Originally Posted by justme:


Ah the wonders of girl-only porn, I never have to look at those you list


I'm almost there, just me. I am about to subscribe to a Lesbian site!

06-30-10  10:18am - 5308 days #3
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Originally Posted by Capn:





You'd never come across them, Capn, because you download pictures only. They are some of the ubiquitous porn stars one finds in every second DVD! And they are so ugly that the girls must shudder when they are told they will have to do a scene with them!

06-30-10  09:32am - 5308 days Original Post - #1
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... Evan Stone, Lee Stone, ? Janeiro, Dirty Harry, Ron Jeremy .. that's it for a start!

06-27-10  06:32pm - 5310 days #21
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Originally Posted by nostromo:


I'll be rooting from Germany from here on, argentina is a disaster tactically -this is first match of theirs that i've seen in this WC- and i find Maradona's antics rather revolting. Germany's midfield will get ahold of the match and then it will be bye-bye argentina.


Sounds good to me, nostromo. Hefting a Stein of Loewenbraeu!

06-27-10  06:25pm - 5310 days #7
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


I don't see how making a default of non-recurring would be less hassle for, or in any way benefit the site. They stand to make more money from people who forget to cancel before their month is up.


How many do you guess would do that, RB? I know I mentioned the worry about forgetting but I also always cancel very early into a subscription for that reason. I really believe that some folks would hesitate less when it comes to joining a site if they felt it was a one time transaction: pay your money and then forget about it! But I might be wrong, that's why I threw it out for discussion.

06-27-10  04:25pm - 5310 days #5
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Messmer, you've got a great idea and I wish that more sites would embrace it. Yariana's analysis supports it, and that is reflective of my own pattern of join, quit, wait, lurk, check PU ... return.

It would be a lot less hassle for everyone.


Thanks, Drooler. It's my hope that webmasters look in on our forum and polls now and then because it is my firm belief that one month, non-recurring is a good idea and would be beneficial to site and subscriber alike.

06-27-10  04:20pm - 5310 days #4
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Originally Posted by Yariana:


Our site does very well with non-recurring. After nine months of research and tracking our recurring vs non-recurring sales, I have found many of our members choose non-recurring but still return each month. They prefer the option rather than the recurring billing.

We did offer recurring at a discounted price but I found 90% of those that chose this option, chose it for the discount and canceled at the end of their 30 days anyway so I just removed the recurring option. this removal has not hurt our sales.


Thanks, Yariana, you just confirmed my thesis for me!

06-27-10  02:27pm - 5311 days Original Post - #1
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How do you think a site would do if they switched to a one month non-recurring option as their default? Not at an increased price but at the same price as before.

No more worries about canceling, or where to find that cancel button, or over getting an acknowledgment that your account did get canceled, no more worries about forgetting the deadline. Just one choice: one month, non-recurring. Period!

Do you think that might attract more subscribers?

Looking at a recent poll of ours, I think this idea might be quite attractive to many of us because most, if I interpret the answers correctly, like to subscribe for one month and then come back periodically to harvest the in-between updates that appeal to them rather than keep subscribing from month to month to month.

06-27-10  11:44am - 5311 days #19
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Originally Posted by Denner:


BTW:
It's not soccer - the rest of the world (ahem, a vast majority) calls it football!

What the US calls football has nothing to do with football - wow, there I got some enemies...


Not likely, Denner. The trouble is in the renaming. Now that a small part of North America has discovered real football what do you call that "ball tucked under the arm or attempt to pass it in order to gain ten yards" game now?

So, the best bet is to leave things as they are and to just call this strange, way too low scoring, boring game "soccer." And, yes, that's how most native born Americans and Canadians see it. Soccer, over here, is mostly supported by immigrants like me who learned to appreciate its finer points from an early age in another culture. I must admit I developed a taste for ice hockey but never took to "football."

06-26-10  07:22pm - 5311 days #14
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


I think you must need at least some Scottish blood to appreciate the bagpipes. I love 'em - but I do get a kick out of watching people cringe when they hear 'em!


I must have some celtic blood in me somewhere because I love the bagpipes! As to the vuvuzela, it ruined a world cup for me. It's the roaring of the crowd and the chants and the cheers and jeers that liven up a match yet all I've heard over the past couple of weeks is the buzzing sound of a bunch of angry hornets!

06-26-10  07:10pm - 5311 days #190
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I think that's a big factor in the psychology of how we interact and enjoy movies, where the actor is a fantasy figure that has a glamorized, fantastical life. But when the real life of the actor conflicts with our image of the star, it can ruin or damage his career.

And that's what happened to Tom Cruise, unfortunately.


I wonder when real life will ever catch up with Robert Downey jr. (one of my favorite actors) or with Charlie Sheen? Man, those guys seem to be teflon coated because no scandal seems to stick to them very long before they are back in favor.

06-26-10  07:02pm - 5311 days #20
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I can't see it being a 'good thing.'

Cap'n.


Nope, the whole thing smells!

06-26-10  01:06pm - 5312 days #187
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Tom Cruise hasn't had a major hit in years. The last time he starred in a hit was the Mission Impossible 3 movie, I believe. And even though that was a hit, I think it was also a box office disappointment, because that was around the time of his couch jumping incident, and when Viacom (Paramount) announced it was dumping him.

Unfortunately, his new movie, Knight and Day, appears to be a major box office disappointment, based on the first two days of box office results.

Cruise is still more popular than Kevin Costner, but neither one is as big box office as he used to be.


That couch jumping incident did it for me. I saw "Eyes Wide Shut" shortly after that on TV and could no longer imagine him as a doctor or as an action hero. Too bad!

06-26-10  10:15am - 5312 days #16
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


So are they going to apply the 'xxx' to government sites as well, since so many of the idiots in charge of it--senators, representatives, governors, the list goes on--are just as perverted as any porn site out there, if not more so, and certainly a hell of a lot less honest? How about candidates' sites when election campaigns start, since the majority of the them seem to have a real problem staying faithful to their significant others?

The government's 'moral values' are certainly not mine...not by a long shot. When they begin to care more about ensuring the health and welfare of the people--rather than how they choose to spend what little free time they have left--then I'll give a shit about their 'moral values.' Otherwise, they might as well be speaking to me in Greek.


I like the way you think. There is so much hypocrisy in Government that it makes me despair. It seems that those who cry out the loudest in connection with sex, gay rights, etc. are usually the worst offenders.

06-26-10  10:07am - 5312 days #15
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Aww... c'mon - you aren't saying that the government would decide what's right and what's wrong for it's individual citizens, are you?

Porn's always been the easy target for the high and mighty (so-called) moral majority. And the .xxx domain almost has to be a thinly veiled plan to control porn on the Internet.



Funny (ironic) thing is that fundamentalist Christians (see the article) are actually on our side. They don't like it either except, in their case, they think it legitimizes Porn too much if porn is given its own domain.

06-26-10  10:02am - 5312 days #14
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I haven't heard of anything such as a .vio (violence) or .grv (graphic violence) domain. Boy, would there be a LOT of domain name buying then! And they'd never have to worry about the govt shutting them down!

Nothing of that sort would poison the minds of children or corrupt anyone's moral values, hmm?


You know, Drooler, that's always baffled me. How could we have such a twisted view of life and morality that graphic violence is okay yet sex isn't?

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