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06-26-10  09:53am - 5293 days #13
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I can't answer that one but if you have software that blocks access to any site with the letters "xxx" in it then IP address or not. You will not be able to access any porn site with the xxx in it's domain name.

I do believe this is in large part a cash grab because it will mean that most exisiting .com websites will have to buy their .xxx equivalent to prevent people from stealing their potential customers by redirecting them to the wrong site.


Re. the software: that's what I thought too. Still waiting for justme's answer before I put away my tin foil hat.

As to the cash grab .. that might play a part. Somebody will get a lot of money for the registration of sites that most likely will never be used but I believe, like others, that it is primarily meant to make it easier to turn off that switch on porn when a Government feels that the time has come. The only thing that re-assures me is that one of my sites has already decided they will never use the xxx. Hopefully the others have enough sense to do the same.
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06-25-10  06:40pm - 5293 days #28
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


The williamj/turboshaft interaction brings something to mind - gloryhole sex. Now while I've seen gloryhole porn that I thought was hot where a hot babe was dealing with anonymous cocks or hands, etc, the idea of being the recipient of gloryhole sex where I couldn't see the woman or interact with her is really not appealing.

I've had Gay friends that were into the anonymous sex thing and I just don't get it - I'm definitely not an "any hole will do" guy. I need the visual stimulation and that means that I need to be turned on by the woman I'm looking at.


I'm worse than that, not only do I need the visual stimulation but I need to feel some sort of emotional bond as well. I have never had a one-night stand or casual sex. This means that despite my love of porn I am an incurable monogamist.
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06-25-10  06:30pm - 5293 days #8
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Originally Posted by justme:


http://66.115.137.185/

The domain name was bypassed

That is all a domain name is, a translation to an ip address.

Hold off on making your tin-foil hats until the governing body dictates a block of ip addresses for porn site hosting.


I honestly don't understand because I'm not a tekkie. If a concerned parent can use software to stop his children from looking at porn couldn't software be created that refuses to translate any xxx site into an ip address? I would like to be re-assured on this.
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06-25-10  03:20pm - 5294 days #3
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Originally Posted by Advent:


What we have decided is this. We will (more than likely) have to buy the domains so no one else would get them for our company but we have no plans of using them and the reason you stated is the reason we would opt out.


I hope everyone will be as smart as you, Advent! Still a shame that so many will have to pay good money to register a name they have no intention of ever using. Somebody is going to make a mint out of this.

PS. I just read some of the comments following CNN's article and am even more convinced than ever that there is a real danger hidden in that so-called "convenience" of putting the whole industry under xxx.

PPS: Even scarier yet, reading between the lines:

"The .xxx internet suffix, which was first proposed six years ago by ICM Registry, a group that sells domain names, "will provide a place online for adult entertainment providers and their service providers who want to be part of our voluntary self regulatory community," according to that company's news release.

Adopting .xxx will be optional. However, some tech blogs speculate a push to make the domain mandatory for adult-only sites." Edited on Jun 25, 2010, 03:51pm
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06-25-10  03:10pm - 5294 days Original Post - #1
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Seems as if the "xxx" extension for Porn sites has been approved. CNN says it's a big day for the Porn industry:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/06/25/x...tml?eref=igoogle_cnn

but I have grave misgivings about it and hope that most sites will opt out.

How simple it would be for Government to give this directive to an ISP: In order to minimize the corruption of our children and moral values do no longer allow access to any site that has a xxx as a domain name.

CNN, too, mentions that this could be a real danger if all Porn sites decided to adopt the new domain name.
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06-23-10  09:33am - 5296 days #21
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Music when someone is dancing - yes

Music when someone is fucking - no




Agreed!
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06-22-10  10:08am - 5297 days #18
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


I hereby confess to being one reviewer who considers music a negative when it comes to video, although I also admit that my tastes are strange to begin with and objectively I can appreciate that some folks would prefer music to heighten an erotic mood.

In actual sex scenes, music never bothered me, back when I used to watch hardcore porn. In fact, it was usually a cue that something naughty was about to happen, so if anything it caused a positive reaction. I remember those funky bass lines and the steady rhythms, which mimicked the rhythms of copulation.

In solo videos, however, I like the way In The Crack does things: just give me the girl and a nice clean environment, and all I want to hear are the sounds she makes: her shoes on the floor, the rustle of her clothes, the clink and tinkle of her jewelry, and various ambient sounds. I don't mind the sound of the equipment. It's usually just clicks and creaks here and there, though too much noise is a bother, I agree.

My theory, which I put forth on another thread, is simply this: we have only two senses with which to interact with a woman on film: sight and sound. Smell, taste, and touch are not available (at least not yet). A music track interferes considerably with one of those senses, even when it's at low volume. A music track which completely obscures all other sound is the quickest way to get me to turn the video off. If there is music and you can still hear the model and the sounds she is generating, then I suppose that would be acceptable, though I still prefer no music. The silence promotes a sense of intimacy and proximity with the model, at least for me.

I do concede that if a model is actually dancing, then there should be some soft music playing; but if she's just teasing and stripping, I prefer silence.

It also comes down to the fact that while I'm a music lover and a lover of women, I see these pleasures as being quite distinct. I don't like background music of any kind. I don't like music as wallpaper. When I listen to music it receives my full attention, and I cannot tolerate any outside interruptions. If someone was to put the first movement of Mahler's Ninth Symphony as a track on some video featuring a beautiful girl undressing, I would end up ignoring the girl.

I never liked music playing whenever I was in bed with a woman.

I love a good steak and I love chocolate ice-cream, but I don't want chocolate ice-cream on my steak. I guess that's how I feel about it. Let's not mention that the typical music track is not exactly chocolate ice-cream, but more like a stale Tootsie Roll.


LOL. I guess, just like me, you're not a multi-tasker, www. I have no quarrel whatever with your argument and agree with you in most points.

Just want to point out that I was specifically referring to scenes that come suspiciously close to dancing and that is models standing while swaying from side to side while they prepare to undress.

If a masturbation scene takes place on a bed or if the stripping is done gracefully without the swaying then music is not necessary or even desired. It would help cover up the creaks made by the photographer's equipment but that's not my biggest problem. So, in those cases, no music .. no big deal.
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06-21-10  07:40pm - 5297 days #17
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I don't know if anyone will disagree with me but the one universal attribute that I have to have in a woman is kindness. The physical attributes is just window dressing.
You can probably find as many people that are attracted to your kind of woman as there are that aren't.


I agree, Pat. Kindness in a woman is highly prized by me as well, as is gentleness.
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06-21-10  07:36pm - 5297 days #14
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


I think my problem with music, especially licensed music, I have visual memories to a lot of songs. One of the songs in a Party Hardcore video was "Big Girls Don't Cry". I have a little female cousin who is 7 or 8 who used to sing that song all the time when she was 2 or 3. Other songs would make me think of my mom singing them. Then the worst of all, if it has a catchy enough hook or chorus, I may just burst into singing it

I also think different styles of music put people in different moods. There is an Eve Angel video on Babelicious that has violin music in it. Completely ruins the video for me. I like to hear violin music when resting or taking a nap. However, if you're ever a member of Twistys, download the 2 part video of Eve Angel with Puma Black. These two were two of my top 5 models. It was even a full video. Both started fully dressed, stripped each other, kissing, touching and this annoying as hell 8 second techno loop playing in the background. The worst part, it isn't the only Twistys older video with that same loop in it. A bunch of the older videos there have it. It was almost like it was their trademark song so you knew you were watching a Twistys video.


You are right, of course, there are times when music is totally inappropriate, there are times when the music itself is inappropriate to what's being portrayed in a scene. And there is music that will bring back memories you don't want to associate with porn.

However, I'm not talking generalities, exotics, I just want some music when it comes to a solo strip / masturbation scene because it simply seems unnatural and awkward to see a girl standing there swaying in complete silence ... except for manifestations of great excitement by her, something that is totally out of place because she has just started her sway and isn't even undressing or touching herself yet. Something is needed to cover up this embarrassing awkwardness. Not only that but as I have mentioned, the silence is made worse by the occasional interruption by the crackle and creaking of the photographer's adjustment of his equipment. Horrible .. eroticism goes totally out the window.
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06-21-10  07:01pm - 5297 days #11
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Well, esteemed fellow member, you, of course, already know my views on the fake moaning an' groaning farce-a-mania......and now that you've brought up a new wrinkle --namely the Keystone Cops behind the action working the equipment and giving directions -- from which I'll add my
There's a dire need for these guys to have overseers overseering the overseers. Can you imagine, seated in a local theater, watching an intimantly poignant love scene between two of your favorite popular stars when...(rumble, screech, crackle -- among other distracting noises) appear out of nowhere. Then watch the patrons heading for the ticket booth demanding back their money.
I know these porn sets ain't Hollywood....but we're paying good money and they're takin' it...And for that we deserve a decent return.
About the music:..no complaints here...it even adds character to the scene. But don't expect music to cover up the apparantly oblivious insensitivities of the noise-makers behind the cameras.


LOL. "Rumble, Screech, Crackle" describes it well, graymane!
That or deadly silence, except for the inexplicable gasps of the models who weren't even touching anything at that particular point! Just as you can't have a party without some sort of music so you can't have a silent solo. Once the gasps turn sincere, okay, but not from the first frame.
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06-21-10  06:56pm - 5297 days #10
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Dancing to music is a whole 'nother story. Dancing isn't a sex scene. I have some clips of girls dancing in various states of undress and... well... I must like 'em 'cuz they're backed up in duplicate on my drives. :cheesy grin:


Exactly, dancing isn't a sex scene except in the sense that the girls in this case eventually stripped and probably masturbated. They actually didn't even dance but did more of a side to side sway. I found it deadly without some sort of music accompanying it. The girls you saved .. did they have music in their scene? And, yes, I like 'em, too.
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06-21-10  06:50pm - 5297 days #9
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I'm not particularly keen on techno stuff either when it comes to background music but would find even that preferable to no sound at all, or the pathetic sound of phoniness, or the creaking of the camera .. or whatever does the creaking in those silent movies! A tripod, maybe?

What brought on the subject specifically was that I had downloaded three solo scenes from 21Sextury (I forget the site now because I don't normally visit their glamor section) and all three models were sort of swaying from side to side as they undressed, making gasping noises before their hands were near anything gasp-worthy and I was thinking, God, what I wouldn't give for some music to cover up that fake heavy breathing and gasping. Then ten seconds later the crackling and creaking of the photographer's equipment broke into the girls' efforts and really ruined the clips. They could have been nice otherwise but I didn't stick around to find out. All three got deleted.
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06-21-10  01:53pm - 5298 days #5
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


The aversion to music and the aversion to overplayed sexuality are two separate issues. And both suck! To me, if you're gonna make a porn flick, make it realistic. In any sexual encounter I've had, even if there was music playing, I still got to hear my partner - and she wasn't acting like she was having an orgasm before I even touched her. Playing music over live sound only seems like a coverup to me. Either the actors couldn't pull off a realistic scene, or the people directing the shot were giving directions during the shoot - or both. This is yet another reason why I prefer amateur porn to gonzo. There's a lot more realism when John and Jane buy a video camera at Best Buy and go at it.


Don't have a single argument against yours, RB! I agree with you completely.

So, ignoring the copyright issues mentioned by Advent, how do you feel about solo models doing a dance or sway without accompanying music? Does it look awkward to you? Or not?
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06-21-10  01:44pm - 5298 days #3
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Originally Posted by Advent:


I know that we do not put music in the background of our scenes because of copyrighting issues. If you play you got to pay!!


Yes, a photographer at AO30 told me the same thing, advent! I had forgotten. This leaves one option: compose a "one tune fits all" for your site and give the royalties to yourself!

And if your models moan before they even touch themselves then tell them to cut it out!
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06-21-10  01:09pm - 5298 days #19
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Originally Posted by justme:


Story time

Here is a photo of the worst day of our business:
http://img154.imagevenue.com/img.php?ima...CF1570_122_144lo.JPG

I'm not joking, most of our server equipment was destroyed one night as heavy rain broke through. I risked my life that night. I risked death by electrocution to pull computers out of those waters. And for what? To restore access to websites!

When I read comments "Fucking Hell what's wrong with these sites, gimme my PORN RIGHT FUCKING NOW I CAN'T WAIT!!!" Are you willing to put your life on the line to restore access to a website? I did. So sorry if I got a little fucking touchy when I read those comments.

From that mess we had full hosting services back up in about 40 hours since the moment water first broke in. Nobody thanked me.



What a mess! I understand more and more why you reacted the way you did in your responses to various posts. You somehow HAD to be involved in the business (even though it turned out not to be Porn). It got my back up because I saw myself as a Union Member complaining bitterly about Management while a fellow worker kept defending the scoundrels! Glad you salvaged some things out of that soggy mess and that you're alive!
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06-21-10  01:00pm - 5298 days Original Post - #1
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When reading some of the reviews I get the impression that many of our members dislike hearing music in a video. As a matter of fact, some even list it as a negative.

I agree that it can be annoying when it comes to a hot scene where you want to hear every moan and grunt, but it seems that sites have taken our complaints too seriously and have applied a cone of silence to all of their videos.

I looked at three separate solo videos downloaded from 21Sextury yesterday where models slowly undressed as they did their swaying moves, not quite dancing but close, and music would have really enhanced those scenes.

Instead they were giving off those fake moans and heavy breathing before they even touched themselves, not exactly a turn on.

There's also the fact that in too many of the solo scenes you can hear the photographer's equipment as he adjusts it etc. etc. It would be nice to see those noises covered up through some low background music.

Rant over!
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06-21-10  12:28pm - 5298 days #8
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


I've never tried the cam shows at Met Art but generally I'm not interested in the shows. Every once in a while I'll click into one and watch for a minute, get bored and leave. I've never paid for the ability to do the private chats but honestly I can't imagine it gets much better.


Yes, that's basically what I do as well, Goldfish. I usually watch a few minutes and leave. I would never think of going "private" because to me, as a married man, it's always been a line I should not cross.
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06-21-10  12:07pm - 5298 days #17
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This is my hypothetical that inspired this thread & I put out to anyone here who wishes to comment on this specific - if you end up getting full site access to all the content for 29 out of the 30 days of the subscription length, how does that make you feel about the site?


Well, I wouldn't be too concerned because glitches do happen in the electronic world and I am aware of that, but I would expect them to send every subscriber an email explaining their difficulties, since my first thought during that day would be, oh no, not another site going out of business.
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06-21-10  11:51am - 5298 days #37
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... and most of the girls I know prefer to play with genetic girls or other TS's.. they also feel that most sites don't depict this.


I have seen this mentioned in another place (HBO's Cathouse) where the owner of the "Bunny Ranch" mentioned that he found it strange that most trans-sexuals actually preferred females when it came to sex. This really confuses me when it comes to my theory of TSs being women in men's bodies. You would think they would prefer men. Unless they are lesbians in men's bodies ... aw, forget it. As I wrote in another spot I guess I'll never understand human sexuality.
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06-20-10  07:01pm - 5298 days #8
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Location: Canada 		I know that for men, tall and dark (hair) is the prerequisite for being handsome, in the popular mind. Thank God my wife's taste didn't run that way.

I can also tell you the universal standard of feminine beauty when it comes to Brazzers subscribers!
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06-20-10  04:06pm - 5299 days #3
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06-20-10  04:00pm - 5299 days #12
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


That's easily understood. But, as part of the cost of doing business on the Internet, I expect a site to have someone behind the scenes to take care of that - even if they have to hire someone to make sure the presentation looks good and works like it's supposed to. When I find myself on a site with sloppy layouts, piss poor navigation or a bunch of broken links, I feel like my money should've gone elsewhere.


And you wouldn't be wrong!
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06-20-10  11:53am - 5299 days #9
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Originally Posted by justme:


I love Devil's Advocate I don't always agree with site owners, like the latest comment on Simonscans is thorough and justified. I work for a web hosting company, though no adult hosting - ain't gonna touch that where I live (the admins here if they look they know I've always been on the same static ip address and looking that up will give my general location). I have experience building, maintaining, hosting websites, and dealing with customer service issues.



To go back to the main topic at hand, my own expectations are simple - I join a site because there is material there I want to have, and as long as I get access to that material within the subscription time I'm fine with that. I view it as I'm paying for the material, not the time. I know it does help that I have something specific to focus on when I browse and join sites.


Thanks for the explanation and for not getting defensive! I can see now where you would get your unwavering objectivity even though you are not involved in adult hosting.

I, too, am happy to get the material I am looking for and don't worry if a site experiences the occasional breakdown, however 21Sextury are driving me up the wall by consistently posting updates that are not downloadable until a few days later, (as one example) so I can't remain passionless when things don't work right.

I guess you have the gift of being more detached and less anal when it comes to those irritating flaws.
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06-20-10  11:43am - 5299 days #33
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I have to agree too, I hope my explanation did not come off as being that she had to be labeled as a shemale or pre-op transexual. As you can see in my reviews of various TS sites, I always mention a TS model as a 'she' and respect that most are just trying to become a female to themselves and others; not to be labeled as a TS for the rest of their lives. Unfortunantly, society and people will always probably label these individuals as TS or shemales and never a female, even if they become post-op. That's all they are striving to be and be respected as such, I don't find anything wrong with it personally.


That's how I see it as well, GCode! And your previous explanation was just fine.
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06-20-10  10:08am - 5299 days #31
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Originally Posted by mistresskent:


Gcode,

Thanks for the very well explained definition. So christina is technically Shemale or Pre-op Female. Although you know, she insists she is just an ordinary girl.


And I agree with Christina! She is a girl even though terms like TG, Tranny, Shemale or Pre-op female are bandied about to describe her present physical state. See one of my posts above.
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06-20-10  09:59am - 5299 days #5
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There is a difference between stating you were not given immediate access to the site upon joining as a bullet point in a review, and creating a comment titled "Another Site Delivering Nothing Of Value".

Isn't one of the goals of this site to promote others to buy subscriptions? I'm not saying everything has to be positive, just that, you know, the onlooking readers do have that pesky third option of piracy. What would this website be if all users made a mountain out of every molehill?

As much as we'd all like a perfect reality, that just isn't so. And just because two sites are priced the same per month, does not mean they have the same revenue amounts to work with.


You love playing the Devil's Advocate, don't you? Either that or you're a wolf in sheep's clothing pretending to be a Porn User. I have often wondered, just reading your various responses if you are not somehow involved in the porn industry because I've seen you take on one justified criticism after the other and make excuses for the various culprits on a regular basis under the guise of objectivity.

I agree that some of our statements are spur of the moment and that some of our criticisms are occasionally unjustified or too subjective .. but to see you consistently take the side of the site owners or their C/S is baffling in a forum like this, to say the least. I am not the confrontational type, so I don't want to start a war of words with you but your reactions do seem strange and out of place.
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06-19-10  09:33am - 5300 days #27
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I guess the reason for my unkind attitude is I'm sort of reacting personally seeing how friends and others I've known who have come out to their parents and families and have gotten a thoroughly piss poor reaction in turn. This is just gays and lesbians coming out, which I would imagine would at least be slightly easier than talking about sex reassignment, and the reaction from parents was still abysmal at best, so I'm just not that interested in parents' sympathies anymore.


Don't let despair overcome you, turboshaft. Rest assured that if one of my daughters had "come out" to us she would have been every bit as cherished and loved as she was before. I'm sure there are many other parents who feel exactly the same way we do.
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06-18-10  10:31am - 5301 days #24
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Originally Posted by mistresskent:


I love Trannys... but please tell me guys.. whats the difference between shemale and pre-op ts?

Technically my lovely little slave "christina" is transitioning now... she was a tranny, now she's a Pre-op TS...

Very confusing for me .. would she really be considered a "shemale" or do shemales have to be stunning with implants to be considered as this term?

I personally think that shemales and tg's get a great deal post op.. because not only do they get a pussy.. but they can cum by being banged up the arse!!

Oh how I wish I used to be a man, then a woman and then got the good end of the bargain when it comes to anal ha ha! I love anal..


I never made a distinction between a tranny and a pre-op trans-sexual. To me they are the same.

Unless you are thinking of Transvestites when you say "trannies." Come to think of it I've never seen a site devoted to transvestites, or a DVD, that's why, to me, trannies and trans-sexuals are synonymous.
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06-18-10  10:23am - 5301 days #2
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OK dont LOL.

I'm creating a virtual reality engine in DirectX and I need to study the way breasts bounce under the effects of gravity, so can you guys recommend any movies with naked women jumping or maybe skipping or rolling around for example. Photos are no good, its got to be a movie so I can study frame by frame. The breats must be bouncing vigorously.

I'm thinking maybe some naturist \ sports movies may have what im looking for, so any ideas?

I have no gf at the moment so I cant check the real thing LOL.

Yes I am being very serious.


I seem to remember from way back that Abby Winters had some videos of groups of women exercising and their breasts bounced nicely. Try a tour of AW and see if anything like that is still present.
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I do have a soft spot for impressive breasts & I do tend to prefer them large.
Impressive need not be large though, there are other equally important aspects.
Enhancements can be OK if subtle, and as most synthetic boobs are engineered to be viewed clothed, they can look less than impressive when exposed.

So 'Yes' too much is just as much of an issue as not enough, so far as I am concerned.

Cap'n.


Large or small, the nipples should be reasonably prominent on all breasts and on augmented ones (especially the super-sized ones) they are flattened out in a most unnatural way. They also don't have that cute little sag to them.
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06-18-10  09:59am - 5301 days #14
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I think banning breast augmentation is a step too far. Whilst I am certainly no fan of implants, what about the women out there who have to have one or both breasts removed due to medical issues and then have implants so they look normal again.


Oh, no doubt. Even the most vociferous opponent of enhanced breasts would have no problem with a woman's desire to have implants for medical reasons. Most of us think of the super inflated porn stars when we suggest (in jest) that implants should be banned!
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06-16-10  06:25pm - 5302 days #7
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Nah, sorry, but I think everyone is entitled to their opinions and fetishes, turn-ons, and whatever else floats their boats, even idiotic guys like Yariana's male "friend" (read the #2 post) who thinks that "woman with real boobs are lazy about their appearance and boring in bed." I think that's a really stupid way of looking at things (or at least breasts) but then again if you're not careful then implant lovers could turn around and say that they instead want to make a constitutional amendment requiring breast implants! Either way no one will be happy, so let the future implantees have their surgically enhanced dreams fulfilled and the naturals keep theirs as is.


I too would go along with laissez faire when it comes to the subject: implants or not. To each his own, even though I'll never understand the husband or boyfriend who gives his wife/girlfriend a boob job for Christmas! Or the girl who is saving up for one in order to have more of a Barbie silhouette. How infantile can you get??? If it's artificial I don't even want to touch it. Natural breasts are fine with me in all shapes and sizes. I am not stuck on any particular size but must say that I love my "saggies."
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06-16-10  01:11pm - 5303 days #11
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Technically it means porn where the cameraman--who is also usually the director as he is implied to be the only crewmember there--interacts in the 'story' and the action, much like gonzo journalism where the term came from. Think of gonzo journalist Hunter S. Thompson, being the near-total nutjob that he was (which I think is a good thing, by the way), who interacted with most of the subjects in his stories.

Unfortunately you are also right in that it is in most of today's porn and being executed rather poorly by some of the bigger douchebags around. Pretty much any video where the talent acknowledges and interacts with the camera and its operator can be loosely defined as gonzo.


Thanks, turboshaft, I really wasn't sure if my definition was right or not. Your last sentence makes things clearer. Thanks.
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06-16-10  10:55am - 5303 days #31
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Originally Posted by SueAnn:


I'm not sure if that's ever going to happen- can't hurt to ask though right?


Right! But I am honestly surprised that the new model survived because I was convinced that you would have to go back to a combined site within a year. Well, all I can say is, I was wrong and still wish you the best because you are a class site (class sites).
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06-15-10  06:14pm - 5303 days #20
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


I don't know how many cases there are of hermaphrodites having fully matured male and female organs - I would guess that it's pretty rare - but what's quite a bit more common is people with some elements of both male and female organs and I think the reality is that there's very little understanding of what really consitutes gender.

As I said, this particular story was about a person that was clearly one gender and after a surgical accident, he was the victim of doctors who decided to make him a guinea pig for their "Nurture over nature" theories.

But in exploring his own gender issues, his strongest allies were in the trans-gender community. Reading this book gave me a lot more understanding of people who are biologically one gender - at least in the main - who feel quite firmly that they are the other gender - and the fact is that might be a completely legitimate sentiment.

NPR had an amazing piece a few weeks ago about children - elementary school to junior high school age - that had reached that decision and the struggles of the families to deal with it. Fathers were particularly having trouble with biological boys who were firmly convinced that they were girls and that they wanted to be given female names and be allowed to live as females. And these kids were pretty well-adjusted about it. They had gone through the torment to make the decision, but once they had the confidence to make the decision, they were over a certain significant hump, despite the fact that they were having holy hell dumped on them by most of their peers.

As I say, my conclusion is that I don't know shit about what really constitutes gender - and whether there is a 3rd gender - or more.


The beginning of wisdom: The older we get the less we know! I'll join you in saying I really don't know shit about gender or human sexuality either!
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06-15-10  02:12pm - 5304 days #18
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Anybody ever read "As Nature Made Him" - about a boy who, as a baby, was the victim of a botched circumsision (spelling?). Anyway, the doctors told the parents - "You could raise him as a male with a deformed tiny penis, or we could operate and make him female and with hormones, you could raise him female and he wouldn't have any problems." Well, they did the latter and he was completely tormented for many years - fought all attempts to make him act female from a very early age - and when his parents finally told him the truth in his teens, he opted to live as a male, though he didn't have the male genitalia.

The book gets into a pretty thorough and fascinating discussion of how diverse human genital characteristics really and how common hermaphroditism is (characteristics of both sets of genitalia to some extent). After reading that book, I realised that I don't know a god-damned thing about gender.

Baddrifter's comment brought this to mind - I HIGHLY recommend the book - it's a fucking mind-blower!


Yes, your brain knows what gender you are supposed to be. Nature defeats nurture in this case. Concerning this child, he should have been allowed to grow up as a male even though the trauma of finding himself with a crippled sexual organ would have been major. But if you are forced to live
a genetic lie the trauma is even worse.

If you are male, you know it, if you are female you know it as well. And then there is the third gender our friend from Thailand mentioned.

I have never looked at it that way, and still don't, but believe instead that there are girls and boys born who know from very early on that they are somehow in the wrong body.

This is why I look at a trans-sexual (female) as a true woman, who might still have male sexual organs, and not as someone of the "third gender." And I would assure Baddrifter that to me and to many others she is not a fetish!
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06-12-10  01:40pm - 5307 days #2
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


It drives me crazy. I'm reading a post and just when I'm about to understand what's being said, the writer throws in a few three-letter-shortcuts that blows everything. Common terms used often like pov, milf, gonzo, and a number of others still elude me. The worst are like BLW, SFL, etc.,
The problem I've had is failing to find a glossary of all this confusion. Do they think we are mind-readers?
After wrestling with this for way too long, I'm gonna just lay it in the lap of the helpful people here in PU's forum.


POV stands for Point of view. In other words, exactly what you are looking for ... except (see below): the girl talks to you, undresses for you, you even get to fondle her vicariously or get a bj from her except that it is through the photographer's very visible hands and penis, etc. which of course you don't want! MILF: Mother(s) I would like to fuck. Gonzo: what you see in most DVDs today, no pretense of a story, it's straight to the sex. Mostly shot by loud-mouthed, bragging morons who happened to get a hold of a camera. Very monotonous, very repetitive but the public must like it or there wouldn't be so much of it. The other terms I can't help you with.

P.S. If my definition of Gonzo is wrong I am looking forward to being enlightened myself.
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06-12-10  12:47pm - 5307 days #18
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Ditto, messmer; not surprisingly, expressed like the true gentleman that you are...and that also goes for our mutual confrere turboshaft. The initial sting of evolking a few laughs at my expense have long worn off.... so, my fellow member, the next beer is on me.
A rather repetitive phrase my daughter uses during the too infrequent phone calls and zero visits she allots me is: "Dad, why are you being so defensive?" I deny it is and always say she's reading too much into my natural inclination to raise my voice. So it is with the frivol skirmishes here in the forum. big bark, little bite.
Now, about the hands-off-the-pussy... it's classic "different strokes for different folks". you want the fingers, I want'm out of the way..you're focused on the feeling she's getting , I'm focused on my feeling.
I look at the subject having sex with me, therefore I want her to "playlike" I'm on top of her. Lookie, I'm not the Lone Ranger in this fetish...I got lots of company.


I finally got it, graymane, after very carefully reading your original post again, plus your latest response: you are not talking about masturbation at all!

That's what had me confused because I automatically associate "solo" with masturbation while you were thinking of the model and your fantasy of having sex with her .. two totally different concepts and I can see where you would want nothing to come between you and the model, not even hands because they would indeed get in the way. Proper communication can be so hard at times. (coin dropping)
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06-12-10  09:46am - 5307 days #29
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Originally Posted by Sevrin:


One more reason to prefer girl/girl porn. No condoms is more attractive, but they've never been a turn-off for me. I'm usually focusing on the girl's reactions, anyway.

My best friend at one time was a fairly promiscuous gay man and he died of AIDS in the early 90s, and a fair number of my acquaintances died of it as well. That never leaves the back of my mind. I would never disrespect a porn performer for using or insisting on the use of condoms.

Condoms bring porn out of the realm of pure fantasy and remind us that these are real people working to make a living, just like us. They're like hockey players wearing helmets.


Hey Sevrin, I agree with everything you say when it comes to the health and safety of the performers, trouble is that this is in conflict with my fantasies (as you stated so well.) I don't want to think of them as working girls/guys even though they are. Same reason I never download or watch "Behind The Scenes" offered in the videos. I don't want to see reality because it interferes with my imagination. That's one of the reasons why I am being drawn back more and more to Solo and g/g sites.
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06-12-10  09:37am - 5307 days #16
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Location: Canada 		Graymane, it's just hard for me to visualize a model going through the motions without actually using at least her fingers near her pussy. Unless clit massage is okay with you as long as her pussy is not obscured! Otherwise it simply conjures up, in my mind, a horizontal bump and grind and not masturbation. And all the previous remarks are meant in fun!
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06-11-10  03:46pm - 5308 days #12
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


This may be more for sports fans, but couldn't she superglue a vibrator to the end of a baseball bat?

I'm sure this could help if a woman had wrist problems (unlike us guys who already have at least one wrist of steel by our mid teens...). Still, why would anyone not want to use their hands--after all, there's no substitute for the 'human touch.'


Talk to you some other time, turboshaft, I am busy experimenting with pillows at the moment!
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06-11-10  09:35am - 5308 days #28
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Location: Canada 		The biggest change I would look forward to would be to see all three of the sites combined once again. AW was my very first pay site, as well as my very first review for which I got a non-confidence vote because I was so enthused about it that someone must have thought I was shilling for the site!

Still wish that someone (and you know who you are) would remove that single stain on my otherwise unblemished record.
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06-11-10  09:29am - 5308 days #10
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


You'd have to weed through hundreds of fingering and toying scenes, but IFeelMyself has maybe a dozen scenes where girls are grinding away at pillows, furniture and even a stuffed animal. No fingers - no toys.


Thanks, RB, for inadvertently enlightening me. I was trying to puzzle out how a woman could masturbate without "getting her hands anywhere near her pussy," I honestly never thought of pillows or furniture or stuffed animals .. so many different ways of doing it and I missed out on all of them!
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06-10-10  04:08pm - 5309 days #22
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Location: Canada 		I've been trying for days to remember one of the most erotic movies I ever saw. Finally, after a long wracking of brain: La Chiave (The Key), Italy 1984. This is one film I will never forget.

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06-10-10  01:26pm - 5309 days #5
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Ok, the short answer to my point is simply this: If you're gonna do solo, stick to one position. Don't give us missionary, then doggie, squatting, rolling over and over...eh, well, you get the picture.
Most of the top sites have some of the most beautiful models out there, and a portion of the site's content is solo. But what frosts me is that their solo acts "suck."
And I can't empathize "suck" too strongly. I've dwelled on this before, but I'll bend off the subject a bit because its worth rehashing: I don't want to waste my time watching this airhead "suck" on her fingers, dipping them in and out of her cunt.. what's the point? And while I'm on a roll lets include the insidious practice of her licking and overtime-massaging her freaky tits.

Eh, Speaking of "tending to ramble".......



I think what happens to you when it comes to masturbation holds generally true across every category of porn. I subscribe to various sites yet have to wait for days, sometimes even weeks before the set or video that I've been waiting for finally shows up. Trouble is there are so many different tastes and they try to cater to all of them which waters it down for us.
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06-09-10  02:38pm - 5310 days #10
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Ok, guys...please give me a break, and for Heaven sake credit for not being so naive as to think this stuff isn't "fantasy." (STAGED)
I know my writing sometimes sorta runs off the page, and, admittedly undecipherable, but try again to grasp from my post that WE KNOW IT'S FANTASY BUT THEY APPARANTLY DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW...AND, IN FACT, THINK WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW IT.
Example: "Hey Stud, ain't that a chick I see yonder?" Stud: "Well damned, Dick, I believe it is." I'll jus' drive on over to her sos you can do your stuff."
Chick: (walking alone in a remote area wearing a skirt up to the cheeks of her ass...oblivious to a van approaching with two guys ogling her)
Stud: "Well Hi honey-Bunch, me an' my partner here would be much obliged if'n you'd hop in our littl' 'ol van here and let us make you a movie star."
Chick: "Well, gee, fellows, I don't usually do this sort of thing, But OK...what'da I have to do?"

I won't belabor my point......I rest my case.


I am convinced that they do know that we know. It's just a way of introducing another sex scene. I like it far better than 99% of the scenes found on DVDs where they jump right into the sex without any preliminaries. There are so many incongruities when it comes to reality sex that I just ignore and go along with the deception and am glad there's a bit of a story to it! I like Reality Kings for that even though their scenarios are far from real as you pointed out yourself.
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06-08-10  09:55am - 5311 days #6
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06-02-10  04:16pm - 5317 days #38
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Originally Posted by williamj:


NO. Gyno is what I like just like how others like to see a big black cock fuck a white teen. It's all in the flavor. It is called fetish. To each there own.


Well one thing about gynaecological shots (like in ITC), you can see if a model is genuinely excited or not. Nothing like a speculum to help you see if the shoot is done for money and fun or for money alone! Written in jest because I prefer shots from a bit farther away.
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06-02-10  04:05pm - 5317 days #17
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Stagliano and Evil Angels obscenity trial starts next month.


Thanks, Witty. I am relatively new to DVDs and videos, having been a picture guy most of my life, so I didn't associate Stagliano with Evil Angel. If you feel like it could you refresh my memory what the reason for the charge was? Did he shoot in the wrong State as well? Or was he too excessive like Max?
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06-02-10  04:01pm - 5317 days #64
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


What are the user's beef on Amazon? I've never looked at their forums. I've only used the site to purchase books and other various things.

I could see if you were promoting porn or calling the people on the forum Internet addicts would upset them but you are simply taking a survey. Maybe the bestiality and under-age stuff takes them off guard? (I personally would have shaved that stuff out of the survey. I'd think legal porn or Internet addiction would be a large enough scope in itself without adding in those odd ball tangents.)


This may sound improbable but I happen to think it's true: the politest forums by far are found in Porn sites and right here in PU's forum.

Maybe it is because we feel like a persecuted minority at times, (see the thread re. AW), so we tend to band together a bit more. We are also reminded daily of how different we are from each other through individual reviews and comments when it comes to personal taste, and this creates a certain tolerance for views that are different from ours. The few times I have seen nastiness here has always been in connection with suspected spam.

Out there, in the Usenet groups, as well as in the remarks following articles in the various newspapers or magazines like People or News Sources like CNN, there is a cynicism and nastiness that is breathtaking. I guess Amazon is no exception.
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