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09-18-10  03:05pm - 5209 days #4
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I don't know about first class, but she definitely sounds nutty. This isn't the first I had even heard of her; back in the '90s I saw a few episodes of "Politically Incorrect" where she was one of the conservative guests. It's pretty amazing how her archaic views on sex and "lust" have not changed a bit, but I guess it's pretty easy to maintain the same view on that issue.

Yeah, these people are scary, but what I see as even scarier is that we keep finding these characters to run in elections and sometimes even represent us. What does that say about us, the voters? Okay, we really don't have that much choice until it's a primary election between Tweedledum and Tweedledee, but still!

That being said, they do at least make for a few really good laughs during the races. I can't wait for the screw-ups, skeletons-in-the-closet, and embarrassments that are sure to occur this fall from these midterm characters. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-18-10  01:42am - 5210 days #304
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He was just making light of her past reputation for being a slut, or at least being somewhat slutty, and I think he already knew the answer--that she did and was planning on getting married--which she explained right afterward. I found it funny just because so many comedians and hosts would have just poured more sugar on the story instead of trying to squeeze another laugh out of it. I'm in the camp where little to nothing is sacred when it comes to comedy and those kind of jokes make laugh. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-18-10  01:35am - 5210 days #2
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Well, to each his own...wet dream?

I'm kinda curious how Senate canindate for Delaware Christine O'Donnell would view this; is it still lust in your heart--therefore a form of adultery--if you have a wet dream, or is it like you when you misspeak and accidenlty tell a lie in the process? I wonder if girls who squirt can have wet dreams too? Sooo curious!

And I take issue with her whole masturbation-with-lust theory--I have masturbated plenty of times without lust, thank you very much! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-17-10  07:40pm - 5210 days #302
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I don't intend to see the Joaquin/Casey documentary when it comes out. I haven't even seen the episode of the David Letterman show where Joaquin made his famous appearance, though I did read it was supposed to be bizarre.


Letterman has admittedly had some odd guest experiences over his nearly thirty years in late night television. In the late '80s Crispin Glover (actor who played Marty McFly's dad in "Back to the Future") nearly kicked him in the face as part of a character he was playing for a film he was promoting. It's on YouTube somewhere and it is strange. Also Harmony Korine (screenwriter/director) was on in the mid '90s and acted as if he was on some hard drugs (and I don't think that ever turned out to be an act).

I don't watch much TV--I'll occasionally watch something online after I hear about it in the news or from a friend--but Letterman seems to be pretty blunt with most guests. I saw a clip where he had on Nicole Ritchie who announced she was pregnant and he immediately asked "So, do you know who the father is?" "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-16-10  10:40pm - 5211 days #300
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Does this article mean that when we watch gonzo sex, it's all fake or staged?


Even if gonzo sex is all fake it's certainly a lot less creepy (and nowhere near as depressing) as this Joaquin/Casey experiment. How long has this charade been going on? Two years? Why is it these "performances" or pieces of "art" always turn out to be such utter wastes of time? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-16-10  07:26pm - 5211 days #3
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Originally Posted by Advent:


You just have to find the right woman.


That's pretty much true of everything related to sex.

I once saw a BTS video of a photoshoot (might have been ALS) where the model said she would never give head because that's where guys pee out of. I'm sure there are some girls out there who give head exactly for that reason so there's a whole range of preferences.

I think it was George Carlin who once asked "Are you ever able to watch a woman eating a banana and not think about a blowjob?" "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 17, 2010, 07:32pm

09-16-10  07:17pm - 5211 days #78
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Nice final to this thread.....guess that's the very bottom line: "Don't show it off in public"!!!!


I'd still be less offended if people replaced all their Jesus and cross merchandise with penile symbols, though I'd think Pfizer (Viagra manufacturer) might get in on that business too.

Also to compare religion to a penis...well, that just insulting to penises everywhere! Of course it's already happened with the sex toy companies; just check out the Jackhammer Jesus, or probably the ultimate in anal-Christian blasphemy, the Baby Jesus Butt Plug. "South Park" has nothing on these guys. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-14-10  05:31pm - 5213 days #7
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I would say yes, it's a vastly female youth-driven industry. Yes, there are MILFs, older women, etc., but the overwhelming majority of porn makers seem to shoot the 18-24 crowd over everything else, and that's most likely what audiences have always demanded.

This is just practical and good business; you watch porn and you will see people naked and women just look incredible in their teens and twenties. Yes, older women can look good too and blah blah blah, I think we have all heard the defense of MILFs and the like before. I'm not saying they can't look good in their thirties and beyond as well it's just that most naturally look best when they're younger, and usually with less effort on their part--it's just more natural at that point in their lives, and many don't have to slave away in a gym or invest in a good plastic surgeon.

And as to why so many of us perverted fans of all ages instinctively prefer them this way is probably just the demands of evolution; we're naturally attracted and turned on by women who look to be in the best shape for carrying on our seeds (or at least giving birth), even if that's the last thing any of us would actually want. Pretty much by definition we then seek out women who we think are physically up to the task, and since post-menopausal women cannot have children, well...you get my drift. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-12-10  06:37pm - 5215 days #32
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Originally Posted by pat362:


All I know about clit piercings is what a friend told me. One of her friends had it done but she had to have it removed because it kept on stimulating her all the time and that got distracting real fast.


A friend of mine once said she had the same experience and she took it out not long after getting it. Not sure if hers was a hood or an actual clit piercing (we weren't that friendly, unfortunately), but I'd assume both can unintentionally 'overstimulate' many girls.

I guess it's like revving a car engine; just because you can do it doesn't mean you want to all the time. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-12-10  06:31pm - 5215 days #31
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


Sorry to report from first hand sad experience that eating out a pussy that has some jewelry attached can, at a minimum, be unpleasantly distracting and worse, can cause pain for both the muncher and the munchee.


You make it sound like genital piercings can act as a sort of chastity device, at least as far as oral sex is concerned. That'll learn you, you loose-tongued perverts! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-11-10  04:11pm - 5216 days #27
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Originally Posted by mistresskent:


I had my hood done last year and nipples done at the same time.. taken out the hood now because it somewhat de-sensitised (spelling) it. It looked great, but I have since seen other young ladies with 4 or 5 piercings in the nether regions and it looks pretty unsightly, especially with the heavier gauge and consequential sagging of.

Little tucked away ones are cool I think x


"Hood"? I thought the term was bonnet in the UK.

I personally don't see the appeal of girls having multiple genital piercings. For one, many girls just don't have a lot of real estate to decorate down there so it can look kind of cluttered and busy. Also I don't think symmetrical labia piercings (matching jewelry on both sides) look very cool. Maybe for those into S&M or fully nude dancers--because they probably look cool under the right light--but otherwise I think it's a little much for something that's already so attractive without piercings.

A single clit hood or clit (if anybody even gets the clitoris itself pierced) and maybe even the rare fourchette piercing (but I think different from what pat362 mentioned above) look pretty cool to me. And if weight ever gets to be a problem for bigger and multiple piercings there's always titanium alloy jewelry, which is a lot lighter for the same size. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 11, 2010, 04:16pm

09-11-10  03:53pm - 5216 days #71
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Just for the record, those who'll read my last post carefully will notice that nowhere in it is the word "Islam" mentioned. The vitriolic rage that is now all consuming is directed solely to those who engage in and/or espouse to this heinously barberic practice of stoning... Whoever, wherever, whatever, or what ever-ever entity that fits that description are in the crosshair.
I'm not targeting any particular religion or their "bible".....And I certainly realize there are a fair share of Islamics who are strongly against this or any form of execution...and to those a deserving respect in clearly in order. But dammit....the gloves come off and I have my own vision of justice that should befall every last one of those pieces of that were involved in any way concerning the stoning of that young, frightened, and helpless girl.


Iran is sort of a sticky situation because it's a theocracy, so to be angry over Iranian law could be seen as being angry over Islam. That is, it's not purely politics in Iran, but religion plays a major role, if not the only role in legal cases such as this. It's really just extremism though, like the child rape scandals of the Catholic church. To be upset over those crimes is I think the most natural and humane reaction, but it's not a condemnation of the religion as a whole.

Sadly, Iran is probably not the most conservatively Muslim country in the Middle East. Read up a little on some of Saudi Arabia's laws, specifically how they relate to the freedoms, or lack thereof, of women--they are appalling by any modern, progressive standard of the West. But the West has a fairly good relationship with the Saudis so that discussion is over before it's even started. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-11-10  03:31pm - 5216 days #70
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Originally Posted by slutty:


I am curious why people are so quick to jump on Islam, and condemning the religion as a whole for their extremists when they don't do the same for christians?


Most likely because of the severity of events in the past few years; 9/11, the attacks in Spain and Britain, the violent reactions to the Danish cartoons. These were are all perpetrated, at least so far as the evidence shows, by Muslims. Regardless of whether or not they were motivated more by politics than religion, it's very easy to blame these things on 'radical Islam.'

Yes, 'radical Christians' have had their share of violence in the same time frame but not quite on the same scale and usually more specifically targeted violence--abortion doctors, gays, blacks, etc., not terrorizing a general population. Of course if you view recent U.S. military action as Christian-based than obviously that changes things, but I think most reasonable people would call that nonsense.

The problem is these radical Muslims may not even being doing things for purely religious reasons. They never attacked on 9/11 because they "hate us for our freedom" as W. liked to remind us so often. Unless the "freedom" is referring to how our (U.S.) actions overseas affects people's lives around the world, then yes, they hate us for that freedom. But I betting most of these people are upset and resort to violence because of our foreign policy.

In fact if you ever read or watch any of those '90s interviews with Bin Laden his anger is over the U.S. keeping a military presence in Saudi Arabia (which is considered a holy land to Muslims), our support for the Saudi royal family, which he considers corrupt, as well as our support for Israel. He does constantly invoke god into his ranting but his motives all go back to American foreign policy in the Middle East. His fatwa from the mid-'90s does target all Jews but also all Americans, not just Christian Americans or Christians in general.

But to the topic of the (postponed? cancelled?) Koran burning, I think it's pretty obvious why Muslims everywhere would be so upset and offended, even if Jones' intent was to specifically protest radical Muslims. He could have instead planned to burn photos of the 'top' wanted terrorists or an effigy of Bin Laden to make it a little clearer--okay, a lot more clearer--who he and his church were protesting. Hell, I have never even see those angry crowds in Middle Eastern countries burning bibles, they torch effigies and flags and I think the message is pretty obvious. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 11, 2010, 03:35pm

09-10-10  01:20pm - 5217 days #9
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


Some are great, some are useful, some are futile, but I always enjoy them.


I guess we are all too 'occupied' to make decent detectives.

- "Who is she?"
- "Uh, I don't know, but she looks familiar."
- "Well, I think I have seen her on a couple of sites, though I don't remember what they were."

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09-10-10  01:02pm - 5217 days #66
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Anyway, a lot of the whole circus that has become the Ground Zero Mosque and Book Burning for Dummies 101 is just another example of our overhyped media. With so many new outlets jostling for exposure, every quack or extremist can get face time just by doing or saying something gonzo. The media sometimes doesn't act responsibly by asking "is this news", instead they just want to be first or jump on the wagon to fill air time or web space; essentially creating "news" that is polarizing because it's so much easier to discuss and dissect (and a ratings grabber too) than trying to explain or analyze something like economic policy. It's just easier and more satisfying to immerse your mind(and the media's own collective two celled mind) in junk journalism than it is to tackle the unpleasant or difficult issues of the world.


Context and reality are frequently unpopular with the mainstream news media because they interfere with their narrative that the world is only full of quick-to-anger extremists and dangerous people in general. Polarizing opinions and viewpoints full of passion and gut feeling, though not necessarily facts or evidence, are the norm. I would like to see coverage of a rational Christian-led condemnation of this but that doesn't fit the media's view of the world so it's not going to happen. As I said above, it's just more misrepresentation of reality. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-10-10  12:52pm - 5217 days #64
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


The latest news is that their Rev. Terry Jones, who earlier said they wouldn't be burning Qurans, is now waffling about it, meaning that it's not 100% certain they won't be burning them. This he said from their -- now get this -- Dove World Outreach Center!

Now is that Orwellian or what?

You can never take things on face value, that's for sure!


Or that small events such as this are very representative of things as a whole. In many ways Jones is doing for America and Christianity what a few terrorists have done for many of the Muslim countries and the Muslim faith in general. He, with the generous and hyperbolic help of the media, has been able to turn a fairly small and idiotic act into another PR fuck-up for America. It's hard to see the U.S. as a tolerant and rational place when close-minded xenophobes such as Jones and his church get such a large amount of press (our various laws regarding social issues certainly don't help either).

Like the stoning-for-adultery case in Iran, I wish this guy would try and think about the big picture; the U.S. still has thousands of troops in Muslim countries (and not just Iraq and Afghanistan) who are seen largely as unwelcome imperialist invaders. This latest stunt from the states is just the cheery on top for people living in these countries who have to put with occupying forces. Seeing images or at least hearing about plans to burn their holy book is not exactly an impetus to win hearts and minds. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-09-10  07:09pm - 5218 days #58
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


In Washington, U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told a briefing on Wednesday: "Stoning is a barbaric and abhorrent act. We have joined with many, many voices around the world in condemning this prospective action by Iran. But ultimately this is in the hand of Iranian authorities."


I always find it interesting how the U.S. government publicly condemns other countries for their "barbaric and abhorrent" acts such as this when it also still actively practices the use of the death penalty. Maybe we're just upset because they are not executing people 'humanely'--I'm sure we have plenty of potassium chloride we can sell to them, would that violate our sanctions against them?

Coupled with our unwavering support for Israel and our military presence in both Iraq and Afghanistan (two of the border countries of Iran), our condemnations likely mean next to nothing to the Iranian government, except maybe for a laugh or two.

Yes, this is awful, medieval-style 'justice' of the worst kind--extreme punishments for disobeying authoritarian rule dressed up as religious law--but we have to look at the bigger picture if we really wish to end this insanity. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-09-10  01:55am - 5219 days #7
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Originally Posted by Capn:


See how good a film review you would get, if you asked the critic to pay!


I would think most movie critics would not care about having to pay to see a film. A good movie is a good movie, a bad one may be so bad they want their time back instead of their money!

As far as porn sites go, if I got a free membership (just saying, if any webmasters or mistresses are reading this...) I would still have plenty of other factors to judge. I don't care if a site pays me to be a member--if they've got a bad site I'll know pretty quickly. I just wouldn't be able to do a full review on it. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-08-10  12:19am - 5220 days #56
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


The great example of how welcoming other religions are as compared to Islam is being set by the fucking imbecilic retards - to use a technical term - in Florida that are planning to burn 200 copies of the Quran on Saturday as their commemoration of 9/11 - in spite of the fact that the military commanders who know a thing or two about conditions on the ground are pointing out "uh - folks - we've got a few American troops over here and they're not exactly going to be treated well when you people are burning the book most holy to the people that live over here."

Un-fucking-believable!


Hey, didn't the you-know-who like to burn books also?

Oops! Sorry, Denner...

Originally Posted by Denner:


And BTW - do not compare anything with Europe/Germany in the 1930th


Good thing there's an ocean separating us.

Actually I'm currently reading a book called "American Fascists" about the dangerous rise of the Christian right in America. Among other things, it talks about the suppression of dissenting viewpoints--including non-Christian faiths, and even some sects of Christianity--as well as the intolerance of people and things viewed as 'foreign' to American values. Interestingly, though it was published in 2006, the author also mentions the possibility of some religious fundamentalists trying to hijack the civil rights movement for their own purposes...which I would have thought crazy until Glenn Beck's total 'coincidence' of scheduling a large rally and speech at the same place and date of King's 1963 one. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-07-10  06:28pm - 5220 days #8
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I've actually been frustrated by this since I occasionally use the location of a mole or two to identify a model. You know, some of them have so many aliases, and I try to keep all pics of each one in a single folder. So then I have to resort to nose shape, ear shape, or even dental work. It ain't easy!


Uh oh, I think I just found some of Drooler's sleuthing secrets: The Freckle/Mole/Tat Test. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-07-10  06:21pm - 5220 days #7
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I've actually been frustrated by this since I occasionally use the location of a mole or two to identify a model. You know, some of them have so many aliases, and I try to keep all pics of each one in a single folder. So then I have to resort to nose shape, ear shape, or even dental work. It ain't easy!


Lol. Would that be 'mole-printing' then? Detective Drooler is on the case (literally...)!

I'm weird in that I sort of like moles and freckles but not tans. One looks natural and distinctive, the other just looks fake and can give you a nice leathery crypt keeper hide when you get a little older.

Yup, give me the pale girls with the occasional freckle or two that they got between the walk from their car to the photo shoot. I guess I want a little realism in my fantasies because I'm so fair skinned myself and if I were to spend anytime outdoors with the more thoroughly tanned beauties in porn I'd probably have long caught my death of melanoma or skin cancer before I even got to know them. Hell, that's probably what will kill me one day; I'll go on vacation in the tropics somewhere, 'accidentally' wander onto an all-girl nude beach, forget about my sunblock, and then the nice (and nude!) beach girls just bury my charred carcass right there. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-02-10  07:52pm - 5225 days #23
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I saw a new piercing on a performer. I've seen quite a few lips and clitoris piercings on performers but this girl had a piercing on the skin between the anus and the vagina.


I've heard of those as well, though I don't think I've ever seen any photos or video (I'm pretty sure I would remember!). Maybe it's so if she ever gets pregnant and needs an episiotomy during birth the doctor can just grab on and yank it like a ripcord to make the process even quicker! Of course she might want to have the doctor killed if he actually ever did that...

Why anyone would ever want a taint piercing is beyond me. For starters, that area of the body, even on women, isn't exactly clean and sterile. Second, is there even enough sensation in that exact spot to warrant putting some body jewelry through it? Maybe it's to serve as a warning to overly aggressive partners so when they accidentally thrust into it they know to look before they leap.

The craziest piercing I can think of--and I've even seen one photo--was a cervix piercing. Don't ask, because I probably don't know. It sounds like the piercing equivalent of Russian roulette. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-02-10  04:02pm - 5225 days #17
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Great. I guess that puts me one foot in the grave already - and some people on here, on life support.

40 wasn't so bad.



Are you saying you've already had a midlife crisis or have yet to have one? Or are you so constantly enraged that you have midday crises?

Relax, I'm sure you can have as many as you want. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-02-10  03:56pm - 5225 days #21
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


Pardon my ignorance but what's a "Prince Albert piercing?" From the post it sounds like a guy piercing his schlong. Again in my ignorance I can't imagine anyone ever messing with a pierced schlong...but...


Yes, it's a penis piercing, specifically one that goes through the urethra close to the head but on the underside (I think Wikipedia has some photos if you're really interested--thank goodness for all those dedicated and uninhibited users!). There are a number of other penile piercings but I was thinking that would be the one most likely to get entangled with a tongue piercing. All genital piercings sound quite painful but then again how do you explain all the circumcision still going on, and you can't just take that out when you no longer want it!

Also, as a side note, there is a roughly female equivalent called the Princess Albertina (though I doubt any real person with that name ever existed) but it's fairly limited by the uniqueness of a girl's anatomy. Since it's supposed to go through the urethra too it may not be possible with all women but it supposedly does exist.

There...a little something to think about over your next meal. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Yes but I've often wondered what the sensation is like for the man getting a full blow job from a babe with a big tongue
stud. Betcha it's fantastic. In fact it might even be mind blowing.


The only bad thing I can think of is if you have a Prince Albert piercing and they keep ricocheting off each other and make a real racket or worse get tangled up mid-act!

Then next thing you know you have to find a bolt cutter or very precise cutting torch. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Every single Resident Evil movie so far has featured nudity by Milla; one advantage of a fashion models turned actresses is that they are rarely prudish about nudity. The first Resident Evil actually featured an infamous "twat shot" (Milla's own words from the DVD commentary) though it was only a few frames and almost not noticeable.


I noticed it! Of course my vision was better back then...oh, memories.

I almost think the filmmakers did that just to screw with the video game crowd that was watching. After two hours of undead insanity and what must be the mother of all corporate screw ups (thanks for nothing, Umbrella, Inc.) it's nice to get a quick glimpse of the Milla we all love and know--the undressed one! And it was nice to know that she survived all that horror and mayhem. Very uplifting. Almost makes you look forward to a zombie uprising...

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At any rate, if you are looking for nice quality nude pics of the lovely Ms. Jovovich, check out a nude set she did for Purple magazine as a sort of "back to work" announcement after the pregnancy during which she packed on an admirable (for baby health) but whopping 62 lbs.! Being a workaholic (and having a personal trainer that cooked her meals) she was back to her toned-muscle, pre-pregnancy weight of 130 in a mere 8 months. This is the rather fantastic result.


Man, she knows how to take on zombies and have a child virtually unscathed! What can she not do? The weight loss really isn't that impossible--many 'normal' women do it without a personal trainer and cook--but the lack of stretch marks is what looks so damn good. It's kind of hard to just exercise those things away (in fact, some body builders get them if they bulk up quickly enough). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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I'm guessing that most 18yrs old don't fantasize too much about having sex with an overweight 50+ yrs old. I've never met him but he's always seemed to be a nice man.


I am sure he is, after all he's having sex (and getting paid for it!) with all those up-and-coming eighteen year-olds, and he's Ron Jeremy! He's sort of like the Energizer Bunny of porn, because he keeps going and going. I say rock on, Ron! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I don't know what women think of men with tattoos?


Some women actually prefer men with tattoos, which is why I have a couple--you know, just in case! Though honestly that's not exactly much of a standard for choosing a partner if you ask me, and these are also women who are already quite heavily covered themselves (the Suicide Girls-type, etc.). I honestly couldn't care too much myself about a girl's tattoos--beggars can't be choosers after all!--I have plenty of other shit to get upset about.

Oh, and yes, even though I have a couple they are not tramp stamps. Sorry to disappoint. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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A couple of good examples of 'Why did she have that done?' there.


Still looks better than the 100 million or so tramp stamps out there (though I think she has one of those too). This tattoo has at least a modicum of originality.

I like the "F" on Friday just because it makes me laugh, though laughing out loud at a girl's tattoo is no way to win points with her. She could still grow her bush back out and hide most of it. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


The reason I watch the Resident Evil movies is Milla Jovovich. She is hot and yummy. Hot is usually different from yummy, but she is both.


She's been getting naked on film since her early teenage years; ever seen "Return to the Blue Lagoon"? I think she was about fourteen when it was shot, though be aware if you are looking for it--for the cinematography of course, not the nudity!--I think it has been reformatted into an even wider aspect ratio so as not to show her bare under-18 breasts. I gotta admit, even in a non-adult, PG-13 film, that's where I start to feel just a little uncomfortable...so there's always "Resident Evil" and I'm in the clear! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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To be fair there are other religions/groups that require relatively extreme modesty, even in the US, I believe the Amish are pretty strict in dress.

Funny how you say the you'd hope the human race is advanced and mature enough to have learned how to live with bear arms and legs - considering our ancient ancestors strutted around with all their business hanging out...


I think you might have misread my post. That's why I said, "I like to think that I have quite a bit of tolerance for religion--I live in America, I better--but when it comes to the costumes, especially the beekeeper suits[...]" Yes, I was emphasizing the extreme Muslim dress codes but I was also addressing all religions by saying "the costumes" since so many religions have some sort of made up rule or practice when it comes to dress.

Also, yes, as you said, "our ancient ancestors strutted around with all their business hanging out..." but that's why I originally wrote, "I'm not asking that we all walk around buck naked for everyone to see everything." I'm just saying we don't have to go hog-wild and force people to dress like they're going to clean up a hazardous waste spill all the time. If people want to dress in bikinis and tight swimsuits at beaches or lakes then let them (apparently many societies can't handle bare breasts, so let's not go there) but don't act like it's the fall of civilization.

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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Fornication is bad! Don't you all know that? There are still statutes in some states that make it a crime, sex between two unmarried people or at least one who is and other not. Can't recall if it's adultery depending on the gender of the married one, but I think it's the male.


That's true in my state; sex between two people who are not married is a crime. We also define married as being exclusively between a man and a woman, which I believe technically outlaws homosexuality and bisexuality, or at least the sexual practices of them. I'm not totally sure what the crime is if only one of them is married but I think the law only allows sex between the marital partners (man and woman, perverts!).

If you ask me, when laws on the books (even if they're unenforced) are this stupid it's hard to take many of the other ones so seriously. I mean don't people have something better to worry about then what consenting adults are doing with their naughty parts?

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Trouble is, everyone is so busy! So I propose a small step towards a solution: National Fornication Day.


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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Marrying, no. Initiating, oh yes ... but one might be hard put to find one at legal age. And she'd of course have to have the right attitude. I'd teach her about the MY favorite position. Then all the guys after me would owe me debt of gratitude.


Many of the virgin pledges in America are thinly veiled religious messages...so it's unlikely I would have any chance of meeting one of legal age either. I'm just not that comfortable with someone who has that unnatural of an attitude toward sex. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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In the past in western cultures ankles were considered very sexy. In Muslim culture right now, even hands must be covered, let alone faces. I have known Muslim women who are so covered I could not recognize those I knew. Are women so tempting that any sight of flesh drives men completely crazy? Orthodox Jews separate men and women for social events as well as praying because women and their sexual attractions keep men from devoting themselves completely to God. They also forbid opposite gender touching of any kind after childhood. Muslims do that also. If someone wants to hug their daughter in law, that is absolutely forbidden, even though that is completely non sexual. If a customer is due change, both Muslims and Orthodox Jews put the money on the counter so they don't have to put the change in a customer's hand. This nonsense is craziness on steroids. Turboshaft you are completely right about this ridiculousness.


That's right I'm right! I mean...thanks, you make some good points.

Speaking for myself, I like to think that I have quite a bit of tolerance for religion--I live in America, I better--but when it comes to the costumes, especially the beekeeper suits; sorry, now you've really gone over the edge. You can call it 'tradition' or 'modesty' or whatever silly little term you can come up with to hide what it really is: taking away people's freedoms to decide how to live their lives. Yes, that includes how to dress. I guess it makes it a lot easier to decide what to wear in the morning but come on! Are you kidding me?!

I'm not asking that we all walk around buck naked for everyone to see everything. (For one thing, disinfectant and deodorant aerosol sprays would suddenly be in short supply.) But I would like to think the human race is advanced and mature enough to have learned how to live with some bare arms and legs. I really believe there would be less trouble and suffering in the world if so many of its inhabitants weren't brainwashed from birth to fear and restrict all things relating to sex. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Religion is the great excuse. You can do ANYTHING and if you do it with the cover of being a cleric of a major religion, you can scream "Religious Freedom" or "You're just being anti-religion" when anybody tries to demand a modicum of normally accepted behaviour.


Excellent point, PinkPanther! The greatest story ever told and so many people fall for it! As the late George Carlin put it so eloquently, "They made the fucking shit up."

I sure wish I had a religious excuse for my love of porn. I guess it's pretty nice to have a belief that's nearly unquestionable in it's authenticity once you slap the religion label on it because it gives you a ton of room to get away with shit. Hmm, how does the Church of Latter Day Perverts sound? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Sure, pat362, breasts might be sexy organs, but I don't think they are actually defined as sexual organs... I get turned on by ladies with nice legs in short skirts, does that mean legs need to be covered up too? If so, that would spell disaster for me!


In certain societies, yes! In fact, cover up those hands and that face while you're at it too!

If you can't deal with a woman's bare legs, or face, or even her breasts like a mature adult then there's something seriously wrong with your culture. All that frustration and venomous hatred over a few square inches of bare skin is not healthy or safe. No wonder people are upset. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I found that rather awesome photo on an Obituary page (sadly), but I knew had to make use of it


It's a good photo, kind of what I imagine I might look like after spending too much time on PU or 'organizing' my ALSScan material--except of course for the suit, the tie, the combed hair...okay, pretty much everything. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by slutty:


I'm curious where the puritanical fear of nipples came from in American society? Shit, its just a tit, It isn't really even a sexual organ... And if they are so evil why don't men have to cover theirs, espicially the men with hairy saggy ones?


Maybe people are worried they're just going to start squirting milk spontaneously! Since guys don't have milk ducts (at least I don't think they do...) they don't have to cover them up. Maybe people think exposing the nipple too much is bad for it, like the possibility of a bad sunburn or something.

For an organ that's very important early in a human's life--hell, all mammals, mammary glands are a defining physical feature of the class--the female nipple sure gets a lot of bad press, or just an unusual amount of attention. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-27-10  02:40pm - 5231 days #6
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Technically in any New York State Park it is legal for women to go topless, I wouldn't recommend trying it at a park that doesn't have a regular group topless folks visiting it though because locals can get mighty angry about such behavior and be a real pain-in-the-ass despite the legal nature of the behavior.


Well, I guess I'm going to have to move to New York before the weather gets too cool. Of course women going topless makes plenty of people angry...because as we are all probably well aware the female breast is evil! Pure evil! And the nipple is so unspeakably horrifying and blasphemous that when it is exposed in public, whether it be at a topless beach or at the Super Bowl, it is like a plague of locusts raining down from the sky!

Or topless women are so popular that when men hear about them they flock to the park, pick up the scent, and soon surround the women like a pack of hungry drooling dogs with a bone (Drooler, I'm looking in your direction). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Well I will stride against the tide and say that I appreciate tattoos - but I will insert a caveat: I'm only a fan if the ink is done well by a skilled and creative artist and applied to an attractive girl in an effective location.


So would that rule out a girl getting a big forehead tattoo à la Mike Tyson's big tribal tattoo?


Originally Posted by Toadsith:


The recent upsurge in body modification popularity means it is exceptionally difficult to stand-out from the crowd using this method. Interestingly, not long ago (60's & 70's) the Mental Health community found there was direct correlation between the number of tattoos on a person's body and their psychopathy rating. A high rating would mean they are a psychopath. At the time they would have said sociopath, however that term is now outdated.


But didn't the mental health community also regard homosexuality as a psychological disorder around the same time? And let's not forget the wonderful world of phrenology!

I'm sure before long some perverted quack psychologist or biologist will come along and claim he (why do these crazy pseudo-medical ideas always come from guys?) can determine to a fairly accurate degree a woman's future sexual and social health by taking measurements of her genitalia--tattoos and piercings might also factor in. He will makeup some bogus chart that correlates certain measurements to being a faithful loving wife, most likely to find happiness in a 'traditional' marriage with X number of children. Other measurements will correlate to her future as an amateur porn star and weekend warrior stripper, thus a life of regret and sin, and possibly a child out of wedlock.

But I digress. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I honestly believe Streaming is going to be nearly the only the way porn is going to be distributed in a few years. Internet Connections are becoming so reliable that people aren't even renting DVDs what with Netflix watch instant (now available in HD) and Hulu (who keeps promising HD). A lot of "old timers" like myself don't want to admit it, but the era of downloading and keeping a giant treasure trove of porn is coming to an end outside of the DVD market - which will eventually die too.


He's back!

Welcome back, and great to have a fellow "old timer" around.

I think there will continue to be a DVD/Blu-Ray/whatever-next-gen definition disc market out there for the dedicated collectors and aficionados--yes, including the perverted arts. A more art house company like Criterion will likely still be around for the non-adult market, especially since they aren't really in the business to sell millions of the latest Apatow fart-and-douche comedy.

'Mainstream' porn studios--okay, the big ones, they're not really mainstream--will very likely abandon discs unless things change for that model of selling and watching movies. And given the fact that many porn customers don't really, ahem, have the 'need' for a feature film to satisfy their viewing pleasure then streaming, whether through a computer or device hooked up to a TV (PS3, Wii, etc.) will get the 'job' done for the majority of the iron wrists out there.

Hopefully there will still be a healthy sized market of companies that allow customers to download and keep forever. I wanna keep my collection growing! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-26-10  08:39am - 5232 days #28
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Originally Posted by slutty:


Further, I don't think there should be any standards for emigration. Quotas are okay I guess, but standards are subject to manipulation and subjectivity. If a country truly wants to say that they are free, they should let whoever is next on the list emigrate, regardless of their situation. There most certainly is nothing wrong with integrating parts of another culture into your own, that is the world we live in. The more everyone knows about other parts of the world, the more tolerant people will be towards other lifestyles, religions, etc. and the world will be better off for it.


There might be quotas currently in place with the U.S. but I haven't heard of any. The problem is that they would indeed be subject to an enormous amount of political manipulation and protest. Some asshole trying to get re-elected wants to court say an anti-south-of-the-border immigration crowd so he puts limits on South and Central American countries (I don't think any one person could actually do this, it's just a crazy example). Mob rule seems to get quite powerful when it comes to 'debating' immigration issues.

The only way I think that quotas could be reasonably fair is to base them on the populations of the home countries, but then this would favor big countries even if only a small percentage of their citizens are emigrating. For example, India has over a billion people so they would be favored second only to China in how many could enter a country. Historically most quotas seem to be based on whatever bigotry and xenophobia is hot at the moment. Even the Irish (quite fair when you're talking about skin color) were subject to a lot of discrimination when coming to the U.S. in the 19th and 20th centuries. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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I've never used my Gmail account for porn though, that could be why I don't get the bulk of my spam there. (I still get some spam with it.) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


I think sometimes we SHOULD have a problem assimilating foreign people and ideas. Take muslims for example. Being a muslim is more important to them than their country. They are muslim first. Looking at the example of the Salman Rushdie fatwa, they put out an order to kill him for something he said. I do not want the idea that it is okay killing someone for something they say, being assimilated into my country. This is why I regard them as dangerous and do not want them in my country. It's time we showed a little less understanding and tolerance towards that line of thinking. I consider they are centuries behind civilized behaviour. Their sort of thinking and ideas are so alien to us they are a danger to our people.


I agree that there should be some standards for those wishing to emigrate from their home into another country, though obviously I'm not talking about purity tests and 100% assimilation. It's been argued that part of what makes America great (besides the vast quantities of firearms and fast food) is that we are a very multicultural country. It's why there are still remnants of the home country in wherever people have settled. Even most of the first states are full of towns and communities that take their names from places in England.

Having said that there should still be a limit to how far one should expect their new home to tolerate their culture. I understand this sounds incredibly arrogant for someone who's lived most of his life in the U.S. and has never had to try and make it in a foreign land but we do have a few standards here, and they are similar for many western countries. Like women driving cars, or not having their clitorises 'circumcised' against their will, or hiding their identities, or making death threats over a cartoon or a book.

Speaking of that book, The Satanic Verses, I think that was partly a political thing too, since the subsequent fatwa was issued by Khomeini who was also a political leader. It gets kind of murky since Iran has been a theocracy for more than thirty years and you could interpret their threats and proclamations as both extreme politics and extreme religion. And Iran is likely not even the most conservatively Muslim country in the Middle East; Saudi Arabia probably takes that honor, but they have lots of oil so lets not talk about that. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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My Yahoo! e-mail account is my primary shit and spam (and porn! ) e-mail account. If I ever get suspicious about having to absolutely give an e-mail address for something I give up my Yahoo one and let the spam hit the fan...or the inbox. Sure enough I get more BS there than I do in any other account I have ever held.

Consider getting a Gmail (Google's free e-mail service) account. They only track all your personal data, possibly for the rest of your life, without that annoying habit of ever telling you they are doing so. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Lastly, Europe has never really had to deal with "race" as an issue. We've been dealing with since the Civil War and it still gets discussed and played out quite a bit today.


Actually I would argue we've been dealing with race since day one of the U.S., or even all the way back to when Columbus set foot in the Caribbean. Read up a little on his voyages to the New World, or just his first one. He basically regarded the indigenous populations he encountered as nothing more than underdressed savages and thus quickly kidnapped, enslaved, and attacked them. So much for friendly greetings. That was just the tip of the iceberg and things have been going downhill from there ever since.

Imagine if he had just been a simple pervert and spent his time and effort trying to make friendly 'relations' with them instead. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Denner:


And BTW - do not compare anything with Europe/Germany in the 1930th


Yes, that crazy Godwin's Law.

I guess you're guilty of mentioning them first in this thread, but only because you were trying to preempt anyone from going down that well-trodden path, so you're off the hook.

Don't worry though, America has had a long, ugly history of anti-immigration nuttiness, including the 1930s. In fact, I recently read an article about how periods of economic stagnation, recession, depression, whatever, usually heat up the anti-immigration fires, and they then die back down when the economy improves. Hey, you gotta find someone to scapegoat for everyone's woes. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 25, 2010, 02:44pm

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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


But anybody that didn't know that this was going to be controversial had their head quite a ways up their bum.

Especially with building at or around Ground Zero, there's got to be a lot of looking for a semblance of community concensus. Anything else is just asking for trouble for no good reason.


I honestly think many of the people are upset because almost nothing has been built in place of the where the Twin Towers stood. That fact that it has taken so long just to decide what, and even if, to build there is probably an indicator that the whole Ground Zero area will be a source of controversy for decades to come. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-24-10  04:55pm - 5234 days #6
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


This summer's version of the "Balloon Boy" fiasco is the current Ground Zero Mosque march of misinformation. The only thing the controversy is good for is giving Fox news something to blather on about besides the run-up to the Fall election.


Hey, fear sells! Available from your preferred news media outlet 24/7.

I'm not "on the opposite end of the country" but I still don't live in New York and as such I really don't think my opinion counts much compared to those of residents who this building would directly affect. I guess I'm pissed at all these people butting in who are not living, working, or governing in New York City--from Obama to Palin, and whoever the hell pops up in between. Even if the people of NYC decide not to build it then fine, it was their decision, not the people of the U.S.

Personally I'd prefer that they get it built too just so we don't have to add it to that ever-growing list of things-America-can't-do (I guess it would go right next to not rebuilding the actual site of the Twin Towers). Are we really so unintelligent and xenophobic that we can't distinguish between those who perpetuated the 9/11 attacks and those who wish to build this center? If so, then lets ban the building of new Catholic churches or cathedrals, because some in the Catholic church can't help from raping children so lets just lump them all together and be done with it!

Hell, lets just stop building all religious centers, places of worship, buildings, and whatever else until we figure this shit out and determine the one true faith! I honestly have yet to see any of the supposed good religion has done so far for this country, besides pit good people against one another so they can fight over petty imagined differences and silly nonsensical rules and traditions.

Everybody should just chill out, relax, and get laid, or get some porn and do the next best thing. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 24, 2010, 10:41pm

08-24-10  12:14pm - 5234 days #4
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Originally Posted by justme:


Too bad our politicians of both parties have turned this discussion into a partisan vote grab for this fall.


I agree; once the politicians, ex-politicians, wannabe politicians, and others with personal political interests at stake got involved, the 'discussion' aspect got flushed right down the toilet. I have my opinions but at this point I don't care how it turns out--I am so sick of these stupid go-nowhere wedge issues that do nothing more than stir the stew of stupidity in America rather than actually lead to any meaningful debate or understanding.

I don't feel as if it has gone beyond the "9/11 hijackers were Muslim, the mosque would attract Muslims who harbor feelings against the U.S., therefore building it would support terrorism." Okay, it's not quite that simple but it sure feels that way. At this point it would be nice just to build it in order to say that something, anything, has been built at Ground Zero after nearly nine years.

Originally Posted by justme:


Building a mosque does not mean it will blast a call for prayer. A friend of mine recently lived in an apartment close to two Catholic churches that still rang their bells multiple times every day. There are noise laws in the U.S. applying to many Catholic churches silencing their bells, and those same laws will apply to the mosques.


I doubt public prayer calls would be allowed. First, New York City has pretty strict noise laws, to the point where honking is even illegal in Manhattan, except for emergency purposes, though it's not heavily enforced apparently. Second, I have not heard or read about the other mosques in the area (there are already several in downtown Manhattan) doing such a thing, again possibly because of noise laws, or residents are just not that open-minded about foreign religions.

Also I don't think it's technically going to be a mosque, but a "Community Center" (that's what the Cordoba Initiative's website calls it), but that might be as genuine as calling a proposed mega-church a "Spiritual Fitness Center" or some other bullshit name--and referring to the Porn Users site as an online arts and entertainment forum!

I am personally torn between the rights they have (1st Amendment anyone?) and common sense when dealing with us angry Americans--I think the term 'respect' left the building years ago, so I don't use it. They have every right to build whatever the hell they want, within building codes and regulations, and could probably even legally build in the foundation of the Twin Towers themselves if they had the money...though Teabaggers might take up suicide bombing if that happened.

But people should consider their rights within the context of common sense and practicality. I--in theory--have the right to buy and own porn as an adult, but it would be a little much to ask that it be handed out for free in libraries and churches (for now... ), that just wouldn't be sensible. Kind of reminds of the recent controversy over radio hostess Dr. Laura using the 'n-word' repeatedly on her show. She has every right to say it, repeatedly and freely if she 'need' be, but common sense says that people would get upset if she did. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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