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09-15-09  07:05pm - 5577 days #173
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Pat362 and Wittyguy, you may have a point, but most of the problems of Creation's U.S. distribution seem to be from genuine fear of too much controversy, specifically religious controversy.

I am not too interested in the film itself -- just thinking of the Victorian era almost makes me sick to my stomach -- but that's not a good reason for preventing release either. I am sure it will be found in limited (hard to find, no promotion) release in a few cinemas that actually dare to screen foreign films, but nowhere else until it gets a DVD release. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-15-09  06:50pm - 5577 days #91
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I really hate the concept of a community's "standards" because it applies the supposed moral code of a small group to a much larger one. Consider how this affected the trial of the officers who beat Rodney King -- a nearly all white jury acquitted three of them. Should their standards have really been used to judge another community? I would say, at least based on the subsequent riots, that no, they should not have.

But back to porn, when are we (or at least the assholes in charge) going to realize that we cannot pick and choose free speech in such limited ways? With freedom comes excess, and if we are not willing to accept that, then we have to stop labeling ourselves "free" all the time.

The Internet has been a double edged sword ever since Al Gore, or whoever, invented it. It has opened up users to the world and to a certain extent connected those with common interests (just browse PU for a few moments), but it seems to have opened up a whole world of intolerance. Now instead of postal inspectors with too much time (and apparently porn) on their hands, we have police officers, federal agents, and even private companies spending vast amounts of time and money -- much of which is ours as taxpayers -- to literally draw out all those they see fit to arrest and convict.

Yes, some of these people are genuine dirtbags who are breaking a lot more than some 19th century obscenity law, but Max Hardcore? Evil Angel? The judges, prosecutors, and self-proclaimed crime fighters who devote their careers to locking these people up are not so much policing the community as they are policing our thoughts and feelings. That's obscene. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-15-09  06:28pm - 5577 days #169
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Well, I am going to get on my soapbox for a minute (because I will be quickly knocked off) and say that in 2009 the United States is too dumb for a serious film about Charles Darwin. Okay, there was Ben Stein's Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed last year...but it was so slanted it implied Darwin's theory led to the rise of the Nazis and their Holocaust (with Stein saying he wasn't comparing Darwin's theory to Nazism while he visited a concentration camp).

No, most American's are not "backward Christian hicks who think the earth was literally made in 6 days," but like the 9-12 Project you mentioned, we are easily and grossly misguided and misinformed. I think after the way politics have been gone this summer, a film about Charles Darwin -- even one about his family life -- would be the straw that broke the camel's veritable fucking back.

Hollywood could always release another perversely violent and anti-Semitic film about Jesus' last hours and hear nothing but kind words and adulation from the quasi-religious right, but if they ever did release something like this those same people would want it boycotted, banned, and burned. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-14-09  10:17pm - 5578 days #89
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I don't want to say I told you so...but I told you so:

Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Hmm...give your children cell phones or they will be abducted by sex offenders, but give them one with a camera and they will be the sex offenders! At what level does the government stop parenting people's kids? -- apparently whenever they have a conviction against a child, specifically as a sex offender. I would suggest that from now on any parent never photograph their children at any age unless they are fully dressed -- this includes the delivery room! -- or risk appearing before a judge.


(Here's where I originally said it in response to you Wittyguy.)

Okay, I was joking and didn't think this would actually happen (then again, I didn't think conservatives would let Obama live past his inauguration, so what do I know?). Still this is serious stupid, in a scary what-have-we-become way. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-10-09  02:30pm - 5582 days #6
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Outdoor shoots can be nice in very natural settings, like the countryside or the tropics where there are lots of colors and natural sounds. A more urban or suburban environment can be a mood killer: sirens, lawn equipment, dogs barking...the list goes on. But there's nothing like a good girl-girl scene shoot outdoors with only the lightest breeze in the background, a few birds singing, and some healthy looking plants.

Lighting an outdoor scene is the main issue. Nothing can come close to the power of the sun (hell, it helps heat the planet), but it can cause very uneven lighting; harsh natural light overhead, heavy shadows underneath. Plus models end up squinting, can get sunburned, and then there are clouds. If it is a soft-core scene with lots of wide shots, then an outdoor shoot can be great, but hardcore usually involves lots of closeups that rely on strong, even, all-revealing lighting. It's certainly not impossible to do, but it takes more work than indoor shooting.

It's not all bad though. Indoors can get boring after a while, and how much can your really Scotchgard a sofa or love seat anyway? 'Mess up' outdoors and I doubt it is anything a hose with a good nozzle cannot fix. The only scenes that don't seem to work outdoors are S/M or bondage, which usually seem to require a basement or dark warehouse setting. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-10-09  01:31pm - 5582 days #26
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


turboshaft, what do you say we visit badandy400's porn collection while he's off somewhere? The guy sounds like he might do serious damage to the collection before folks realize he might have lost a few marbles. Even if we were caught by the authorities, we could always say we were hunting for National Treasure (I'm Nic Cage, you can be my sidekick).


Sound's great! Let's hope it doesn't have some sort of self destruct booby trap hooked up to it. (I doubt it does -- he could never come to terms with destroying his collection.)

Maybe he will even start his own Masonic society; the BadAndians or something like that, which revolves around the collection and organization of large amounts of Internet porn. :) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-09-09  09:12pm - 5583 days #22
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


Remember, it is still food even if it comes back up, in which case it is still fun to play with. Once it starts in the intestines it stops being food and is reclassified as poopy. Poopy is bad! Poopy is meant for flushing or throwing during riots, that is ALL!


"[T]hrowing during riots"? I will have to remember to stay away from you that dark day in the future when some mob forms and riots to take control of your collection! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-08-09  02:51pm - 5584 days #49
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


So 9% admit to taking pubic hair completely off, but what as the percentage of women who were not comfortable talking about it? Thus, less likely to admit to shaving "down there."

I think the number might be higher than this statistic is showing. Every woman I have been with has completely shaven. Of course that has nothing to do with me shooting shaving cream down their pants, locking them in the bathroom with open porno mags, and throwing pink razors at them. :)

The real question is, do women shave or trim if their partner prefers it? The percentage of women willing to do so would be pretty high, at least I would suspect.

Trimming might be more popular than shaving because itching would be much less of an issue.

As for bringing back the bush. I hope it does not come back anytime soon. I do not mind there being porns made that way, but I do not want it to be prevalent. I love to clean, bald look. I hope it is here to stay for a while. I guess I better watch for a pissed off buddhist at my door. Does holding an electric razor fend him off like a cross and a vampire?


Man, that's funny! Though a more subtle approach might be to give a shaving kit as a gift, instead of locking someone in a bathroom, but I'm just guessing. ;)

And no offense, but I would suspect many of the women who use the phrase "down there" to refer to the pubic region, not specifically the vagina (and if they have to actually shave that, then they really should see a doctor), are the women who don't prefer to shave it completely.

Having said that, I hope I am completely wrong because I also love the shaven look, as long as it is done well. I would only change my mind if RB starts getting really angry... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 12, 2009, 07:47pm

09-07-09  07:20pm - 5585 days #47
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I think many PUers wish they also had a partner who was a fan of Eve Angel as well. :) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-07-09  06:52pm - 5585 days #41
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Thanks, RB. 9% shave. That's all! That makes the bald look a fetish instead of the hairy look! I knew it! :-)


It does sound a little low, but it only said "all women aged 18 and older," not just college aged coeds. ;) Plus, how much of the population actually practices the acts and looks we see in porn? Even just 9% would sound pretty high for some of the things we have seen as long as the shaven look. I mean how many real women genuinely like to fist, do crazy anal, or lots of gagging? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-07-09  06:46pm - 5585 days #40
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Out of the several links I looked at, this is the one I liked the best...


Interesting results, if there is any accuracy to them. More than half (57%) of women 18 yrs or older trim, partly shave, or totally shave. I bet those numbers go up for those in their twenties and thirties, but drop off somewhere after that.

Much of this article sounds like there are some serious problems though, particularly regarding health and embarrassment:

A level of embarrassment in discussing women's anatomy also exists, as the survey revealed that less than half (43 percent) of women indicating that they are completely comfortable discussing their genitals and using the word "vagina."

If this figure is even remotely true -- 43% of women -- then that is the embarrassment. No, nobody really loves being honest with a doctor, especially a gynecologist, but this is people's health on the line, and I would think the effects of being less than honest are far worse than blushing and butterflies in the stomach. I'm serious; if we have a problem getting past our puritanically Victorian fear and embarrassment of the human body, the female one in particular, then it is a part of our health system that is in need of serious reform. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-07-09  06:21pm - 5585 days #21
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I like the idea, but five trust votes does seem to be asking a little much, especially the way we have trouble giving and receiving trust votes. I include myself in this, as it took me a while to start giving people positive trust votes, and I have frequently read (and wrote!) something along the lines of "Sorry about the late vote..." So maybe something else perhaps, plus a couple of trust votes? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-06-09  06:56pm - 5586 days #41
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Exotics4me, I never thought your posts were too wordy, just insightful. In fact some of the better posts are the longer ones, so don't get discouraged! I am still surprised English is not your first language, even if I think I remember you mentioning it at least once prior to this thread, as your writing is well done, and not at all confusing or negative.

I'm sorry for the loss, especially someone who was apparently very close. I lost a relative this spring and it is difficult, and you are never prepared for it, even though in his case he was much older than your friend. It's easy to forget, but after someone dies there is a whole life that he or she left behind, and trying to sort it all out and take control of it can be daunting to say the least, not to mention simultaneously dealing with the emotions of the situation.

Hope it goes well exotics. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-06-09  06:42pm - 5586 days #26
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Have I missed something, or is this the first time someone from a site has come on here to shamelessly self-promote themselves? Something in this post doesn't sit right with me, like it doesn't fit what we're here for.


I think it is the first time -- that is, assuming the user is actually Ruby Knox and not someone else just (mis)using her name.

If it really is her, then I hope she actually contributes to PU, instead of just talking about her site, as a another female member, even a webmaster/mistress, is welcome here to help broaden our views a little. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-06-09  06:31pm - 5586 days #30
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They can definitely produce good photo shoots at ALS, but because of the very way they do it -- lots of interaction with the model, lots of direction -- their videos can leave you wanting more of just the model on her own. This turns most of their videos into BTS, or something like a few-hours-in-the-life-of-____, which they have done on their last couple of Caribbean trips.

As I mentioned earlier, a lot of models, maybe even the majority, can't really hold a scene on their own, especially at sites where they are new to the business. Even girls who have been in front of the camera for a few months can be lost making/acting in an entertaining video for more than three or four minutes. Plus if they have a certain number of things on their 'will not do' list then that requires them to be more creative.

This sort of a problem has always plagued porn, and will continue to do so: how do directors, photographers, etc. fill the time by staying within the realm of what they and the model are willing to do, but still refrain from doing something that would make the shoot cross over into some fetish category, possibly alienating the audience, or just pissing off the model?

I think one of ALS's secrets is using a female assistant (and frequently a second one too) to help models get more comfortable. I can't imagine being a girl and going to a shoot alone, only to have to do it with a bunch of staring guys armed with cameras and lights, though I am sure some models love it. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 06, 2009, 10:17pm

09-06-09  06:06pm - 5586 days #19
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Can't say I am a big fan of pubic hair, though I can at least deal with trimmed. Like everything else, it varies from person to person. Some shaved models have razor burn or stubble, both of which can look pretty awful, so a model who has the right skin in the right places and knows how to take care of it can look great.

In regards to RagingBuddhist, considering the number of Gillette videos I have seen about shaving everything but your face, you would have to spend hundreds of dollars, if not more, on their products every year just to keep up. Maybe it's all a razor industry conspiracy? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-04-09  07:56pm - 5588 days #83
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I got a laugh when I saw that the governor of Texas (a Republican, duh) said that he would not be encouraging parents to send their kids to school on Tuesday if their local school showed the presidential address. Who's brainwashing who here? Apparently the Republicans, in an effort to keep their base from shrinking further, need more ignorant, uninformed and uneducated minions for their cause. I'm sort of surprised that no one's one upped this pointless hysteria by calling Republicans racist for wanting deprive minority children of seeing their potential role model. Shows what modern American politics has become - words over deeds, form over substance, and exploitation over reality.


Yes, Rick Perry is always good for a laugh as he may be the dumbest governor in recent history. He has even hinted, at least since Obama took office, that Texas could secede (hey, no objection on my part).

It's pretty easy to figure out why some parents are opposed to the president giving a speech directed towards school kids: ignorance and paranoia. I wouldn't be surprised if there are parents out there that oppose vaccinations required by school districts before students can begin attending. It's currently happening with the HPV vaccine, and that's just one vaccination.

If I were a parent I would be more worried about what individual teachers and schools are doing with my kid rather than a televised address by the president. The Republican group mentioned in the article says the speech "obligates the youngest children in our public school system to agree with our President's initiatives or be ostracized by their teachers and classmates." Right -- one speech by the president and suddenly it's Village of the Damned, or they just turn into Obama-directed zombies (zobamamies?). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-04-09  07:25pm - 5588 days #165
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If the a studio refuses to release it for critical review that is a red flag. It's a not too subtle way of saying that a movie is so shitty that it will have dismal reviews and letting critics see it in advance is a waste of time. The recent G.I. Joe film was not screened for critics either and I have yet to hear a genuinely positive review for it. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-03-09  11:17pm - 5589 days #74
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It's all about control, as the Internet represents a great threat to those in power. Even if it is 99% conspiracy theory, porn, and social networking, the 1% of truth is still incredibly dangerous. The web is arguably the last frontier in independent media and communication. Yes, it depends on large corporations to supply software, hardware, and a certain level of access, but it still offers a great deal of freedom, even in supposedly already free places such as the U.S. and much of western Europe.

Compare this to film, television, radio, and print. They are either under tight self or government imposed regulation. Even if it is not directly related to the content, there is considerable control over technology, distribution, formats, etc. (just try starting your own independent TV or radio station).

The Internet still represents a danger to government and the few who hold most of the power and money. The post-9/11 world has offered unprecedented opportunities for fewer civil liberties and more government control, all in the vague name of 'security'. Former head of the Department of Homeland Security Tom Ridge recently revealed that terror alerts were artificially increased for political purposes during the Bush years, so what does this say about our government when it does something for allegedly security and patriotism purposes?

Worse still the 'Global War on Terrorism' was started under the most abstract of terms and goals, with no apparent end or victory -- just what any ruler would want in order to strengthen a state's control over its people, all with a legal justification for doing so. President Obama is really not as socialist or liberal as his enemies would have us believe. He has yet to end U.S. involvement in Iraq, expanded military forces in Afghanistan, and yes, supports greater online security, at least for the government, at the expense of the people's freedom.

It's a murky business, as the web has required us to rewrite the laws for a technological future. We all like porn, that's why we are here, but it can actually be one way to measure free speech in the digital age. Remember: with freedom comes excess, and to what extent that excess is tolerated will determine our freedom. Something may not be to our liking or tastes, but how far are we willing to let the few in power impose their personal tastes on others? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-03-09  10:40pm - 5589 days #25
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I'm wondering what the point of porn is supposed to be. Is it supposed to be erotic, for our personal enjoyment? Or is it supposed to be making a statement of deeper meaning?

You can talk about great literature. Most porn is not great literature. And that's not what I'm looking for if I do read a porn story or novel or look at a photoset or video: I want something that's erotic or arousing or entertaining. Call that porn pulp, versus porn class, such as a novel by Henry Miller (Tropic of Cancer) or James Joyce (Ulysses). There's an audience for "literary" porn, but that's not what I'm usually interested in for my reading or viewing pleasure. I want something lighter that I can easily enjoy.

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The PU members might be serious about their porn collections, but I'm thinking they are trying to enjoy their porn on a light level, not at the level of the meaning of life.


I don't think the porn itself has any deep meaning on any individual level like a 'great' novel, song, or play does, but I think it is the very existence of porn and the wide range of reactions we see in response to it, coupled with its continued popularity that says something about modern human culture and hopefully something about our species as well.

These are definitely not my thoughts alone, but I know there is a member (maybe he's a sociologist, I can't remember) who says this on his profile page, and I tend to agree with him here. If I figure out who it is I'll post it later.

Don't worry lk2fireone; just because something is not seen as smart or serious doesn't mean it has no meaning. Maybe the pursuit of porn purely as something light and enjoyable is its point, and to try and help lift our lives above the miserable existence that so many others wish it to be. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-03-09  01:52pm - 5589 days #20
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I'll take Denner's wolf over Drooler's drooler...Sorry for the pun. I couldn't help myself. I love dogs but drooling is not my thing.


I kind of agree; Denner's avatar looks deadly serious, as if he is making an important point about the deeper meaning of adult entertainment. But Drooler's looks like he just found a hot new site and is salivating in enthusiasm, to put it mildly. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-03-09  01:35pm - 5589 days #25
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Well I'm still here, and as long as I have access to the Internet I will try and contribute...assuming I don't take a swing at my computer the next time it crashes!

I am not sure I would strictly call the PU policy of not discussing free content censorship. I see it as a guideline -- though maybe a limiting one in Squirrel's case -- and not a heavy handed 1984ish policy to stamp out people's thoughts. If there is a forum on Christianity, they would probably not appreciate people advocating atheism or agnosticism, or a forum on heavy metal that would prefer people stay within that genre instead of talking about rap or country. I don't know how much time the PU staff spends on what, but I am sure too much of it is already spent on de-spamming the forum, so having a few guidelines keeps their jobs from being so prohibitively overwhelming.

Even if this isn't the place to discuss free content then it certainly is a place to freely exchange ideas and thoughts, whether or not they are porn related. This is the most tolerant, civil, and open forum I have found. Even the sites of large 'respected' news outlets and papers have what is essentially digital sewage in their comment sections where people just point fingers and lob threats without any apparent care in the world -- or at least the web. PU seems to accept basically anyone as long as he or she are not here to spam or slam users.

Where else can you find deep discussions that range from fisting (one of my threads I am proud to say) to politics, sports, cars, technology, and the list goes on. I guess what I am trying to say is that I think we should have even more users considering the forum's openness combined with the new TBP 2.0 reviews that should, at least in theory, allow PUers to have more subjective reviews, with less of a burden to meet when writing one.

To be honest I love this forum -- it's easily my favorite part of the whole site. I do like reading reviews both new and old, but the forum can frequently get very funny and deeply insightful. So Squirrel: I hope you are not roadkill (nor are any of the other animals here, including our great 'Toads) and hope you keep contributing. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-01-09  01:57pm - 5591 days #8
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I think a site is doing a good job if the girls are having fun and enjoying themselves, but a great job if they are doing this naturally, that is without any apparent direction. Obviously this rules out behind the scenes material, even when a model is happy, but a lot of regular videos could benefit when there is no apparent heavy handed director giving orders.

I'm not saying there should be absolutely no direction, because if that were true most models would probably just masturbate and fall asleep for the rest of the shoot. I have seen it happen, and those are good times, but I usually like to see more action and passion. If a scene is setup with a few certain acts involved and the rest left up to model's imagination, there can be a very interesting video, assuming the model is into it and can 'work' independently. On the other hand, if she is not very inventive or imaginative on her own in front of the camera the video can fall flat and be a serious disappointment.

Drooler mentioned ALSScan and ALS Angels, and I agree that they almost always bring out the models' good sides but it always seems to me to be either completely behind the scenes, which really is not acting (at least I hope not, unless the model is being a bitch), or a scenario that's way over-setup, and the acting feels routine and predictable. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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I really hate the fly bloopers! A total mood killer for me, so I can only imagine the feeling for those in front of the camera.

It seems like a common one is girls who have trouble turning on a vibrator and it is as if the scene literally cannot get started until they figure it out. Kind of funny, but annoying after seeing it happen more than a couple of times. This makes most scenes that involve a speculum so awkward also, because they are not exactly designed to be self-operated, so models frequently have a lot of trouble opening them.

Even funnier is in hardcore scenes when the girl can't undo a guy's belt buckle or fly and finally he just rips it open because he's so anxious get things started. And who can forget all the times a guy overshoots his target, so to speak, and the actress was obviously not expecting it?

I can only imagine what happens in the ones that are never shown! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Absolutely! But Eve is an obsession that I have no interest in overcoming. Seriously, my wife also is a big fan of Eve. So, she too would not be too happy with me crushing that obsession!


You're pretty lucky here, in that she is not only understanding but happily supportive of your obsession. Maybe in the wrong context she would be seen as an enabler, but you two are just sharing an interest. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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There are some theaters that try to cater to people who really want an experience -- and don't mind paying for it -- with stadium style theaters, comfortable seats, better sound, huge screens, but to me it is still overrated. The film should still be the draw, and sometimes big crowds for highly anticipated releases are part of the experience that some are looking for, though not me personally.

Some of the more interesting films I have seen in the last few years have all been on DVD and would have a been a pain to find in a theater. Foreign films, especially those with nudity or sex, face the unending wrath of our puritanical interpretation of freedom of speech, so they see virtually no American theatrical release. Similarly, documentaries have pretty small releases, and because of their death of CGI and star power, they can be hard to find due to limited promotion.

In a way both of these types of films are speaking a foreign language. In the case of foreign films, this is done literally and culturally. In documentaries, this is done by addressing a non-fictional subject seriously, with little fanfare or glitter, and if audiences are looking for an escape, they can be too depressing or deep to offer any. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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I haven't seen a film in a theater since early 2007, and I am not planning on going anytime soon. I don't have much interest in recent releases and frankly there have been so few that made me think they were worth the time once I had watched them. I recently saw "Frost/Nixon" on DVD and enjoyed it, but it is far removed from the over-the-top releases, and it is anything but a date movie. I have to say it was nice to be able to watch in peace, not pay $10, and still pause, stop, or rewatch it if I wanted.

What can a theater offer that a DVD cannot? Well, in a theater the majority of releases are still film projections, so they are technically higher picture quality, as well as offering better sound quality, but like my earlier point, I have not seen anything that was deserving of these benefits. I mean, the latest teen sex farces or goofball comedies are barely worth the film they are distributed on, at least in my narrow point of view.

As for the 'experience' the perpetual cynic in me says it is overrated, as I still want to ultimately be able to enjoy and appreciate the film being shown -- regardless of how nice the seating is, or even how civil the audience remains -- something a 140 characters of Twitter babble cannot address. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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I have mixed opinions about this, and like badandy, I am worried it will end up costing more.

First off, I am a completist, and when I join a site I want to be able to download everything, not just bits and pieces. Sure, later when I am organizing and sorting I will also be pruning and deleting, but not to the extent that I would make a month's subscription worthless. If sites still offer what is currently available -- that is, access to everything for a flat rate -- for the same price, or even lower, then I am happy. Yes, gives customers more choices, like the music and film industries have begun to do over the last few years, but don't take away traditional choices either.

The article talked about how the porn industry can cater to nearly any customer and once customers find what they like, then they usually stay with it, but at the same time being incredibly narcissistic since there are just as many sleazy assholes out there looking to steal a buck as there are honest people looking to actually earn it. As Wittyguy mentioned in #7 and #8, this could offer not only more choices for fans but also more choices for sleazebags, who in ripping us off just end up making a lot of us bitter and wary of the industry.

Second, along with Wittyguy's point in #10, changing how we pay won't change the porn. I am worried that this will debase content even more, if that's even possible. We have complained at length about cookie cutter porn, specifically in regards to American made material, but it could pale in comparison to what this could do. Sites study what clips or photos get the most of these micro transactions and in turn simply churn out more of those and leave the rest to the dustbin of porn history.

Older PUers have probably already had there letdown with the move from the more plot based '70s fare to today's wham-bam-no-thank-you-ma'am gonzo fueled blandness. What will happen when webmasters simply cater to their top selling two or three videos? I hope they still try to be innovative and creative, but I am concered it will be like what already happens when some have polls (ratings polls, not like the opinion ones we have) and releases will become ho-hum and sadly predictable. We'll just have a different girl or two, with the same outfits, sets, toys, and camera movements -- lame.

I also hope Wittyguy's #9 point is wrong because I like higher quality content, but the article did discuss the importance of mobile technology. Oh yeah, that's what I want to use my phone for; so I can reduce a HD video down to a two inch square picture and hopefully squint so hard I will get a migraine whenever I watch my favorite site's latest video. That way I will be in too much pain to be able to complain to the site. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Khan:


I didn't read the article but I will offer one caveat for "news" you pick up from adult webmaster resources ....

In almost every case, you'll find the author of the article has a vested interest in the "change" that's being predicted.


That's definitely true here; the author disclosed that he works for one of the companies he mentions in the article, and whose CEO believes micro transactions are "a definite growth area within the industry." Hmm, coincidence? I guess there is no better way to know a source than to become one yourself! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 28, 2009, 09:08pm

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Hmm, interesting point Wittyguy. I have heard boomers blamed for our current economic clusterfuck, as well as all the peace and prosperity in the '90s, so who knows? I haven't actually thought anybody would blame them for our disastrous response to 9/11.

You're right in that maybe everyone just defines it (9/11) as a memory, not as any action taken afterward. I still see our response as a national collective problem, that transcends age/generation, culture, and even class and wealth (or lack thereof). What were we told to sacrifice? Nothing, unless you consider the almost total sacrifice of personal savings, frugality, and volunteerism in the wake of the attacks. We were told to shop, or to continue to shop, as shopping and consumerism are how we have come to define ourselves.

And in the succeeding years what else did we sacrifice? With the help of our government, time and money with phony terrorist alerts, more shopping (buy duct tape and plastic wrap!), and many basic civil liberties in the name of 'security' and 'patriotism'.

The percentage of the U.S. population actually doing any real sacrifice -- volunteer forces both armed and peaceful -- is minute, and largely unknown. People don't actively engage or think critically because they are grossly uninformed and comfortably indifferent. You see it in opinion polls, these recent town hall shouting contests, and basically every election cycle. I am not sure if people really are just generally stupid, simply gullible, or both, but we have left decades of very shameful history in our wake as a result.

I better stop before my head explodes... (Is this why Wittyguy has his head up his ass? To keep if from blowing up?) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 17, 2010, 07:54pm

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Those are some good ones Wittyguy. And yes, I'm still trying to find a good avatar that fits within the size and dimension requirements.

You made some interesting points:

Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


39. Believe that when people talk about "9/11" they're refering to a supersized 7-Eleven store.


I have read various articles in the news concerning how people around my age -- 'my' generation if you will (I certainly won't) -- are somehow "defined" by 9/11. This is my whole problem with so-called generation gaps and even the attempt to define generations; the arrogance of somehow claiming and carrying exclusive rights to certain events and characteristics. Couldn't anyone who remembers that day firsthand be "defined" by it, regardless of age?

Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


41. Only know Madonna as a tired, over-the-hill rock act and know Hulk Hogan and The Rock as tv/film stars.


Why are so many people known for TV work alone? The real Mindset list mentioned Ozzy as always having comebacks, but I do wonder: how many in the class are even aware of his solo career, much less his Black Sabbath days? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I'll vote for BadAndy's Rule 7. Farting in real life can be amusing (God knows I got a Ph.D. in it) but once again the notion that porn is fantasy overrules the reality aspects of some sex acts.


Does this mean we have to call you Dr. Wittyguy from now on? :) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Some sad news to add to this thread, but it should be mentioned, Senator Ted Kennedy has died.

Not to sound morbid or hyperbolic, but I feel this is the literal death that some were waiting for in the health care 'debate' -- if you can even call it that -- and will mark the beginning of the end of any possibility of reform. I know there as been plenty of talk of 'starting from scratch' and 'trying reform again in a year or so' and 'let's not do it until we can do it right' but these are just classic stall-and-forget tactics that have been used over and over again for decades.

I just hope I am completely wrong on this one. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-26-09  11:42pm - 5596 days #5
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


Unfortunately you missed one rule.

7. There should be no farting during or after an anal scene. I know this can not be helped at times, but it really does need to be edited out. I understand we are asking these women to be slutty, but it is nice for them to maintain some ladiness.


Yes, a very good rule, even though it makes me laugh, but that is usually not what I am watching porn for. I guess this is when you can actually appreciate a good score or soundtrack. Oh, and don't have the performers try and pass it off as a queef.

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A little clarity on my part. When I said

Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Rule 6: Just cause dogs eat their own poo doesn't mean you should too. If a girl is in violation of Rule #5, then I say just declare the milkshake machine out of order for the rest of the day, or at least don't drink out of the damn thing -- you can pour and serve all you want, just no consumption afterward.

If not in violation of Rule #5, refer to Rule #1 and Rule #2. If done occasionally, with great care and preparation, and the girl actually likes it (I know, I know, I am asking a lot here, but I would not want to force this on or in a girl), then I give the green light. And if the girl doesn't want to taste test her tailpipe, please don't fucking make her. This is one of those times that a performer's hesitation should not be taken lightly.

When whole videos and sites are dedicated to one crazy act with just a different girl each scene, then you get less a sensual and entertaining atmosphere, and more a Girls Gone Wild idiot extravaganza where exploitation and one-upmanship (upwomanship?) are the rule.


I only meant the creampie, smoothie, and other externally sourced fluids scenes, not actual shit scenes -- which I don't consider anal anyway. So, AssSmoothie is okay, given the other rules not being violated. 2Girls1Cup, or any number of people and any cup or receptacle, is not okay. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Man, what is it with Wittyguy and his lists? Funny and informative... :)

My own thoughts:

Rule 1: If it's too big your mouth, it's too big for your ass. I'm going to have to agree with pat362 here. The mouth and the anus are not the same, minus the violations of your Rule #6, when they apparently are treated as such. If a whole site or video is dedicated to so-big-it-hurts anal play then, yes, it is going overboard and it's not too sexy, but if the occasional girl likes it -- maybe even loves it (I hope) -- then it is okay. That's what makes those girls so special. ;)

Rule 2: Act like you mean it; like the phrase "I took it in the ass". I agree, and this sort of goes back to my thoughts on Rule #1: if said performer prefers, loves, or is otherwise qualified in, said acts -- and can assiduously demonstrate so in photographic or video shoot performances -- then said acts shall be executed in full.

Rule 3: More women in real life need to appreciate anal sex. Yes! I will also volunteer my services here. (Hey, where are you going? I only want the best education for your daughter!)

You should run for public office on this platform; it might make me actually believe in education for once. Imagine if someone like Seymore Butts was a school's dean...and you thought college admissions was competitive now.

Rule 4: Scenes involving "double anal" is just gay sex. This is probably why I'm not in porn. Nah, if I liked the girl I would just cave and volunteer my services as I did above. (Could two dongs make a right here?) Plus I have seen videos where two guys in one girl's mouth did not violate your Rule #1, so they could have tried for double anal.

Rule 5: Beware of the stalactites, stalagmites, sleestaks and other cave dwellers. Can this be a rule for any sex in porn or real life? This is really more of a problem for me when I see pictures -- having a photographic memory can be a serious curse... I understand and sympathize that a clean colon can be hard to come by (or in; see Rule #6), but you would think the one thing a performer would be anal about would be preparing for an anal scene. Oh the humanity!

Rule 6: Just cause dogs eat their own poo doesn't mean you should too. If a girl is in violation of Rule #5, then I say just declare the milkshake machine out of order for the rest of the day, or at least don't drink out of the damn thing -- you can pour and serve all you want, just no consumption afterward.

If not in violation of Rule #5, refer to Rule #1 and Rule #2. If done occasionally, with great care and preparation, and the girl actually likes it (I know, I know, I am asking a lot here, but I would not want to force this on or in a girl), then I give the green light. And if the girl doesn't want to taste test her tailpipe, please don't fucking make her. This is one of those times that a performer's hesitation should not be taken lightly.

When whole videos and sites are dedicated to one crazy act with just a different girl each scene, then you get less a sensual and entertaining atmosphere, and more a Girls Gone Wild idiot extravaganza where exploitation and one-upmanship (upwomanship?) are the rule. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 26, 2009, 11:31pm

08-26-09  10:29pm - 5597 days #13
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Another hilarious Wittyguy post!

There's no way that's going to be easily topped, though I'll add some:

33. Think that Star Wars Episodes I-III are getting old and wonder when someone is going to do a sequel.
34. Know Hugh Hefner is famous for starring in his own TV show.
35. The only way to figure out a location or directions is to use GPS.

One of your fun facts really hit me:

Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


8. Refer to the "State of Virginia" as a girl who claims to be a virgin because she only has anal sex.


That's my kind of virgin! And technically, it is the Commonwealth of Virginia, but I doubt that the class of 2013 even knows basic geography, so if they at least know it is the U.S., or maybe just the western hemisphere, then we should be thankful. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-25-09  08:53pm - 5598 days #11
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


You know what it feels like to read that? Like work! Where I work we have this procedure and that procedure and this problem with this one and that with that one. I need a break, man. Some down time when I not having to worship some fucking process to execute.


Spin that wheel Drooler! Just spin it! ;) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-25-09  08:51pm - 5598 days #10
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What about when a site 'remasters' old material? This is actually more recycling than simply reposting old content, which is nothing more than reusing. As we have discussed in other threads, particularly ones dealing with video quality, we know that content can only be as technically good as how or what it was originally captured on. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-25-09  08:43pm - 5598 days #45
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I don't know about old memberships, but I'm betting badandy would like to trade in some old hard drives for new ones. He'll keep the porn of course, as any collector can tell you, a separation is nearly impossible. :) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Can we blame RagingBuddhist for this digression, since he was the one who started this conspiracy discussion?


My conspiracy theory is that the whole reason RagingBuddhist joined PU was to eventually post a link in order to spread the word about how AIDS is really a myth. All of his reviews and posts have just been a cover to get the 'truth' out.

We're on to you RB! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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I read a great article today pointing out the many challenges of modern Hollywood films, and why brain-dead blockbusters have been flooding the theaters and why somewhat medium-budgeted dramas are becoming scarce. Many of the things users have already pointed out are mentioned, such as grossly overpaid stars, increasing DVD competition, and films with enormous budgets that require a lot of work to turn a decent profit. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-23-09  11:40am - 5600 days #41
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Virusmyth looks like another case of Internet bullshit: too many people with too much time on their hands (and who don't spend it downloading porn...) who go and make a website to fuel their fantasies and paranoia. Don't get me wrong; I have plenty of conspiracy theories myself, it's just that I hope no one is dumb enough to actually make a site about them, and make others think they have any basis in reality.

Also, this doctor's book is from 1994. I don't know about anyone else, but I would not want to risk my health and well being -- as in if I had AIDS or HIV, which are apparently completely unrelated -- and believe dangerous theories over evolving science and technology. No, one prick from a needle might not have infected one prick like Dr. Willner, but that's like telling people to not wear seat belts on the basis that there is a very low risk of being involved in a serious accident. Still odd how this site posts an article that points this guy out for the dangerous fraud that he was, and the brainless nuts that they are. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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I have two WD externals, neither of which has given me any problems thus far...fingers crossed, with the possibility I could get as angry as RagingBuddhist. My one complaint is neither of them come with power switches, just USB ports, though one is a small portable drive (USB powered, no fan) and the other one (AC powered, with fan) has a backup/"One Touch" button which I never use. My two other, non-WD, externals both have power switches so I can leave them plugged in, but still switch them on and off. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-22-09  09:42pm - 5601 days #27
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Anal like most other sex act was treated as though it was what 2 people into each other would do. Because that's what the director wanted to impart then the in your face camera style would have killed the mood. I don't know if you and I aren't creative enough or we are too scared to see where porn is going.


Yes, most sex in classic porn seems to be treated as more of a one-on-one thing, as opposed to today when even in simple boy-girl scenes you get a feeling of the "invisible hand" of the director, or whoever the hell happens to be calling the shots. For me, a really good scene -- whether it is slow and sweet, or fast and nasty -- is when you get lost in the action and passion of the sex, not necessarily its basic mechanics. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


There is a ton of information and mis-information to feed conspiracy theories on the internet. Is the world flat? According to some people, yes, it is. But that's probably not a conspiracy. Unless you count the time taken to teach in schools the view that the world is round (more or less), while any idiot could tell the world is flat, just by the fact that if the world were really round, people would always be falling off the world into space.

There have been huge cover-ups in history, in the United States as well as the rest of the world. But I don't think that AIDS is some fake disease. People with AIDS can and do die, which is not always a good thing. The people dying of AIDS probably think it's very bad, because of the pain and suffering and the death. I know that some Christian ministers preached that AIDS was sent by God to punish sinners(homosexuals and others), but I don't believe that.


Don't take this too harshly, but those same Christian ministers also very likely believe in their own conspiracy theory, one that says this planet (um 'earth', for those conspiracy theorists) is only a few thousand years old, and the Grand Canyon is the result of a bad flood. Oh, and that 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina were works of god as punishment for the U.S.'s embrace of homosexuality...or sodomites who practice it...or something like that.

By the way, when "[p]eople with AIDS can and do die" -- when is that "a good thing"? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by pat362:


I suspect that what ails Savannah is the same thing that ails the porn industry. No one looked at what was wrong because the money coming in was always more than what was being spent.


I think you hit the nail, or the brainless porn star, right on the head. I think you should have used this in your later reply to RagingBuddhist:

Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


It's a late as hell reply, but I'd seriously like to know when the economy here in the U.S. became tied to things like DVDs. I thought our economic disaster was due to such insignificant things like selling our work to other countries, having a work force that's made up of roughly a third illegal aliens and expecting people to live on minimum wage jobs.


Which you replied to with

Originally Posted by pat362:


Not to disagree with you but I think the US recession was caused by a very small minority of exceedingly greedy individulas who had no problem F..G their neighbor over to make an extra million. In 2008 there were 6.7 million Americans with a million dollar or more. That number was down from 9 million the previous year.


"No one looked at what was wrong because the money coming in was always more than what was being spent" has been a huge problem for Americans their entire lives. It is a combination of being stupendously short sighted and ridiculously optimistic about what tomorrow can bring -- without ever acting as if it could be worse.

Yes, RagingBuddhist is correct; exporting labor overseas, a reliance on illegal domestic labor, and low wages have all contributed to the problem; and yes, you are right in that the very rich are always scheming to get even richer -- it is sort of an unwritten rule of business -- but your earlier point of spend first, think later, has gotten a lot of us in trouble.

From the many members here at PU, to the people in porn, all the way to the very top of our federal government, it can be very easy to get used to the good times and never prepare, or hell, even think, of the bad times. For example, people are currently bitching about Obama spending huge amounts of federal money, but every president before him, as surely as every president after him, has always done this because hey, they can only serve eight years, after that someone else will have to clean up the steaming pile of shit. Well, it is the same problem with the porn industry: why worry about a bad future -- be it recession, stricter laws, or just waning customers -- when the present is so damn profitable? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-21-09  01:59pm - 5602 days #47
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I think a Content rating is an idea that could be tested, say, for a few months, to see if it is any good. But Wittyguy is right: the originality and entertaining aspects are so objective that they are virtually impossible to judge, at least with a numerical rating or grade. If you spent long enough with a site, you could argue that it really is not that original, even if done quite well, as I have read with Met Art. And couldn't all sites be entertaining in some way or another? As long as a site fits within a loose definition of porn, then this could be difficult to rate.

Rating content might be best left up to PU and those members who review their favored tastes can maybe give a better view of these two areas, as they can compare them to other sites in the same categories.

Back to the exclusivity rating, this could be a problem because you have to take a lot of it on the good faith of webmasters and their watermarks (sounds like an interesting topic for an essay: 'Of Webmasters and Watermarks: Honesty in 21st Century Internet Pornography' :) ). Plus, wouldn't a whole slew of sites automatically get a O in this category, such as VideoBox mentioned above? Unless they offer a studio's videos that could not be found anywhere else, they are out of luck here.

To use a couple of sites mentioned in Rick's post above:

VideoBox:
-Exclusivity: F; there is none as far as I know.
-Originality: B or C; there are numerous other sites that do the same thing, just maybe not for the same value.
-Entertaining: A to C, I do not honestly know how to grade VB here. Some videos are awesome, others disgusting (okay, still awesome), and some just plain put me to sleep.

Abbywinters:
-Exclusivity: A; really, who else has their content?
-Originality: A or B, maybe even C; again, lots of girls-only sites, but how many are just amateur, girl-next-door Australians?
-Entertaining: B, as I think this site attracts fans who just want to watch down-to-earth girls, with no presence of any guys anywhere, and are not necessarily looking for tons of action, while the hardcore fans would probably give it a failing grade. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-20-09  09:47pm - 5603 days #22
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Actually there are quite a few actresses that did anal in the 70's and 80's but many of their movies or loops are lost to time. Of course they did maybe one or two scene at most, but you can see that anal was becoming much more popular. That opened the door to actresses that either enjoyed it or at least enjoyed the money it brought. Vanessa Del Rio's name comes to mind when I think anal and the 70's.

I agree that Max is at the top of the list of people that have made anal so popular today. There was a time when what he made was quite good. The strange thing about Max is that what he did later years and most people find so deplorable, is now common in many gonzo porn made today: Gagging, Choking, Drooling, Slapping, Weird positions, and many more things as well. I could have lived without it.


I have seen anal occasionally in the more 'Classic' era of porn, but it seemed to be treated somewhat differently. For starters, it never seemed to be the closeup, in-your-face, do or die mayhem seen so often today. You could also apply this to how a lot of things are currently treated in porn, but anal is a pretty extreme example -- and I am not nearly creative enough to make an educated enough guess as to where it could be going...

It is still bullshit how Max has been punished for what many have copied from him -- all the gagging, choking, abusive shit he loves doing -- and made it a little milder so as to not get in trouble. I think if it remained somewhat exclusive to him and his videos it would have been okay, but when everyone does it to the point that they do now, it is just repetitive, degrading and pointless. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-20-09  09:33pm - 5603 days #30
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Weinstein said AIDS could be spread through the on-camera behavior and noted that many people get their sex education from porn movies.


Really? This sounds incredibly dubious, and just another cheap shot to the porn industry. I wonder what he means by "sex education," since porn is built on fantasy, not reality! Even if everyone used condoms he would probably start bitching about kissing (and have to attack the mainstream film industry as well), and then eventually any possible skin-to-skin contact.

His mandatory condom use ideas might work in some narrow latex fetish genre, but mainstream companies will never accept them. They will just work around them or flat out ignore him.

(Here's a link from AHF's site listing some of the offending companies.) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-20-09  12:34pm - 5603 days #25
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Great post Wittyguy!

I agree that those in the industry will either adapt or die, but I don't think "the U.S. will just become another importer of mass produced porn" -- too much U.S. government regulation to make this a practical, or even legal, reality.

I can just imagine the uproar, with headlines like "Your neighbors sending dollars overseas to fund illegal pornographic material." Of course there are plenty in the business that have found ways to get around the system and still make a buck, so I think overseas companies would figure out how to sell to the U.S. if they could beat U.S. companies with cheaper porn. More likely I see them importing cheap talent -- such as they already do with girls from Eastern Europe -- and paying them less than Americans who are just as attractive and open-minded, but not as cheap. This would probably cause an uproar over 'immigrant porn labor' or something like that.

The recession sucks, and there does not seem to be anyone who is untouched by it (except for maybe the ruling class, but that's a topic best left for a different thread), and I hope porn survives largely intact. There are definitely some sites that I wouldn't mind seeing disappear and to never be heard from again, but I, and many others here I suspect, have been spoiled by the freedom of choice and relative affordability of porn and we wouldn't want to see it thin out too much. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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