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04-22-10  12:16pm - 5358 days #7
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


Except for places like the Middle East or China where the Internet is controlled does it really matter?


I would say yes, especially when you have people crowing about how free their country is, 1st Amendment rights, greatest country on earth, etc., but won't hesitate to draw the line at dirty movies and pictures in order to lock someone up for being 'obscene.'

I know we've argued quite a bit about Max Hardcore, but regardless of what you think of him, the idea that he's even in jail is pretty embarrassing. The coming Evil Angel trial is another waste of time and money. The laws to protect minors are there, and probably scare the shit out of anyone who thinks they might have accidentally violated them. Other developed countries--most of whom have looser porn laws than the U.S.--take the whole 18+ issue pretty seriously as well.

As far as "regulation for the safety and health of the people involved" I wouldn't hold my breath. The history of American worker safety is not a pretty one, and considering the way sex workers are viewed by much of the country, or at least by its moral crusading lawmakers, I'd doubt much would be done about their well-being. If we can't even agree on providing access to basic health care for every citizen, what's the chance we're going to give even a passing thought to a porn actress' safety?

But you make a pretty good point here:

Originally Posted by Goldfish:


If you publish on the Internet it is extremely accessible wherever you are (if you have a PC and Internet connection.)


The ultimate democracy--that of the free and open wallet--is where people really make their voices heard. The U.S. has some pretty restrictive porn laws but the sheer size of the industry (just within the U.S.) makes it pretty clear that there is a market of customers who really don't care about the laws. They want their porn and they want it now, damn it!

I even heard theories that if the U.S. were to tighten the porn laws then there were be some serious economic consequences. This is the great conundrum of porn; no one wants to admit to their personal tastes in order to to protect and maintain them. Sort of like all those politicians who wanted to hang/impeach Clinton for an extramarital blowjob when most of them were in fact having affairs of their own. And with the Internet, puritanical sex laws have a lot less meaning. For example, in Iran porn is supposedly called "Super Film" (I love that name) as it has quite a dedicated if illicit 'following' on the 'net.

Ultimately people vote with their boners and libidos rather than their prudish public conscience. I would add that this is even more dangerous because if you totally outlaw porn than what incentive is there to use only adult performers, or even have consent for what's being shot? Zero tolerance is zero thinking and it never works. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Apr 22, 2010, 12:21pm

04-22-10  02:03am - 5358 days Original Post - #1
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As I was reading through some of the thousand or so of Cyber/ZombieToad's threads he has been digging up from the forum graveyard, his new one, Porn "Fun" Facts, got me thinking about what countries are the most friendly or at least legally lenient towards our favorite pastime. Since we have members from some pretty far flung corners of the planet as well as many continents I thought it would be interesting to hear some of various opinions about who might have it best.

Now just judging from the map on 'Toad's above mentioned thread (it's at the bottom of the image), the Middle East and much of central and western Asia look to be stuck in the doldrums of adult entertainment, as well as Indonesia, Cuba, and parts of Africa, so if you live in one of these places, what the hell are you doing on PU?! Just kidding, we feel for you and hope your country can wake up one day.

Now not to bash the U.S. too much (I've done my fair share throughout the forum) but even if we produce the most in terms of quantity we don't exactly have the most lenient stance when it comes to actually selling and distributing it, much less allowing all sorts of Max Hardcore-style acts to take place. Don't get me wrong, we've got plenty to choose from, but what gets companies and individuals in trouble here would in much of Europe get no response except which aisle to shelve the material for sale.

I mean this literally; I have been in shops in both the Netherlands and Germany and have seen that his videos were not the most extreme, maybe the most extreme American, but not the most extreme overall. So I would put Germany and the Netherlands up towards the top, along with Denmark as I have heard they are quite open as long as the performers are at least 18 (Denner can probably enlighten me here).

I put the U.S. in the top 10, but definitely not number one or even in the top five. What are PU'ers takes? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-22-10  12:50am - 5358 days #10
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Really? I looked up some of her most recent images--clothed, but late 2009, early 2010--and I thought she looked pretty damn good for a lady of her age and career length. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-22-10  12:36am - 5358 days #2
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Hmm, interesting facts...who the hell is Maria Takagi? I had to look up Houston to refresh my memory and Hilary Scott, well, good for her! I think she's a hottie with some crazy scenes under her garter belt, so it's good to hear she's making something off it.

Also, always good to remember a lot of 'mainstream' media and telecommunications corporations make quite a bit off of adult business, especially providers in motels and hotels for, uh, 'weary' travelers who think beyond the room service options. A lot of service providers are probably acting as essentially porn traffickers--though they would never admit to it--because they are providing the lines and connections to pass around all the digital dirtiness. I've heard AOL owed a lot of its early business to pervy subscribers rather than the more family friendly image it was marketed as (though porn could in some cases be family friendly...).

I wonder how much of hard drive manufacturers' products go towards simply storing porn, or all the other products that make consumers think, "It's nice, but how will it make my porn look?"

And finally, those countries with porn bans: . Now I know of one good reason to maintain a trade embargo on Cuba--it's heartlessly cruel government doesn't like porn. Of course, neither do most of the governing bodies in this country... I'll also make sure and add the rest of those countries to my do-not-travel (for a second time) list. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Apr 22, 2010, 12:40am

04-22-10  12:15am - 5358 days #2
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That's it, you're officially ZombieToad!

Okay, seriously though, well, others mentioned it in the original thread but I'm going to reiterate it here; chewing gum. In real life, porn, my dreams, nightmares, it just seems to conveigh the message of indifference and boredom. Hey, I know I'm no Peter North and neither are most of the swordsmen in porn, but c'mon! At least stop smacking your gums for a few minutes. We guys give up our flatulent solos as a courtesy (usually) so how 'bout returning the favor and spit out the gum?

But you were right in your original reply, 'Toad; it's way better than chewing chew! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-22-10  12:07am - 5359 days #3
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


A Clockwork Orange.

Bothered the hell out of me when I saw it as a lad. I would have recurring visions of that poor soul getting the tar beat out of him by a clutch of droogs. Droogs, is it? This scene was one of the ones shown to Alex, the Malcolm McDowell character, during his rehab, and it stuck with me for years.

I downloaded the film via Amazon and watched it again on the PC, and it still bothers me, twenty five years later. I got the book via Amazon and this volume was the version Anthony Burgess originally wrote, with the 21st chapter dealing with Alex with a new, more mature take on things. Stanley Kubrick stated, I believe, that he was never aware of that version. Kubrick's film is considered a masterpiece, and I believe that it is technically, but if it points to a moral anywhere I cannot really see it.


Rehab doesn't really work? Maybe the cure is worst than the disease? (I'm sure this could apply to a lot of the anti-porn fanaticism out there.)

I don't remember being too disturbed when I first saw it, then again I find all of Kubrick's films at least somewhat disturbing, so maybe I was ready for it. Great film though. Oh, and Malcolm McDowell seems to be really disturbing on his own. Just my . "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-21-10  11:13pm - 5359 days #20
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Just picture Cybertoad as Gene Wilder in Young Frankenstein, yelling, "Alive! It's alive! It's alive!"


Lol! That's a hilarious movie, and Teri Garr looked...wow!

- Dr. Frankenstein's Fiance: "Excuse me, darling, what exactly is it that you...do do?"
- Inga (Teri Garr): (pausing) "Uh, well, I...assist Dr. Frankenstein in the laboratory. We have intellectual discussions und we--in fact we were just having one as you were driving--"
- Dr. Frankenstein (Gene Wilder): "But I! Uh..."
- Inga: "What?"
- Dr.: "Igor, would you give me a hand with the bags?"
- Igor: "Certainly, you take the blonde, and I'll take the one in the turban! Woof! Woof!"
- Dr.: "Stop that! I was talking about the luggage."
- Igor: "Yes, master." "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-21-10  10:55pm - 5359 days #8
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


I agree though I think a lot of it has to do with plastic surgery gone a rye. I tend to like the young teen models because they are natural. Sure, older models will show their age without the surgery but I bet many of them would look good sans the plastic surgery into their late 20's or early 30's if they took care of themselves with diet and exercise.

I'm not a milf kind of guy but that natural looking 28 year old is a rarity I wouldn't mind seeing more of.


Since when did 28 qualify as MILF model material? Maybe you meant Model I'd Like to Fuck? I am kind of picky about titles such as MILF and so forth and technically an 18 year old girl with a kid could qualify as one but generally we think it applies to age, but 28?! Really? If she's been running the "bus" for ten years straight that might be different but even so...

Your first comment about plastic surgery makes a great point though; I think a lot of women (i.e., basically all of them) would look far less freaky if they just made sure to lay off the Taco Bell and alcohol instead of calling up their local scalpel-wielding surgeon and getting an upgrade. That and maybe staying out the sun a little more, as that seems to be the worst thing to happen to women as they age.

Okay, before I get a by a defensive member or two I'm just saying that aging gracefully can happen pretty naturally on its own without the need for general anesthesia and some appointments to remind you that you're beautiful but there's always room for improvement. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-21-10  03:29pm - 5359 days #8
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This thread is actually kind of funny and hopefully won't go on nuclear alert like the other one did (which still had some interesting posts despite the short fuses). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-21-10  03:23pm - 5359 days #6
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Originally Posted by BadMrFrosty:


Or move to the Czech Republic where everyday is steak and BJ day


Lol. No kidding, Americans are so screwed up when it comes to sex we would have to invent a holiday just so we could hope to get some without feeling guilty. I mean you can't just fuck for no reason! No, that's what animals and perverts do! (And Europeans, who are actually grown adults when it comes to sex. ) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-21-10  03:16pm - 5359 days #16
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At the rate you're bringing back these threads from the dead we're going to start calling you CyberZombie or ZombieToad soon. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-21-10  03:10pm - 5359 days #2
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I don't know, you started both threads so you tell us! (How's that for an answer?)

Well, the industry is still around, still kicking, and we're still here...so I still don't know. I'm sure it's going to make it, even without a government bailout. There will always be plenty of horny people whose partners will always be rejecting their sick, twisted (but natural!) fantasies and ideas, so porn's going to be here to fill the, uh, fantasy gap so to speak.

But it's interesting reading through the original thread, like with one of Wittyguy's classic rants:

Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


[...]
But for every moment of dispair there is opportunity. What W needs a serious image makeover. I'm thinking he should take the lead in colonizing Mars or the Moon (I take that back, don't want him screwing up any more planets).


and how much of it still applies today. All that anger must help his prescience, or the U.S. just sucks at moving forward.

We have since shot a missile into the moon--take that, moon!--and Obama is pledging a new mission to Mars, with people (and I'm not volunteering--I'm betting the web connection sucks out there).

And an earlier reply of his mentioned AIG, Sarah Palin, and John McCain, who are all still around and making noise in the media shoutosphere. Sigh...some things never change. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-21-10  02:46pm - 5359 days #15
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Originally Posted by Denner:


3. What kind of car do you drive ... and is it the car you'd like to be driving?

I drive a Honda midsize SUV - took out the backseats and made room for security-cages for our dogs - two German Shepherds - no need for backseats anymore - the kids have grown and left the building.


I have to say this surprises me. When I was living in Europe (well, just Germany, not Denmark) the only SUVs I remember seeing were the ones driven by Americans. There might have been a few Mercedes SUVs driven by Germans but I think they were commercial or government vehicles, the civilians stuck almost religiously to cars.

Come to think of it I don't even remember many Asian cars either, especially not any SUVs or trucks, though my mind could be going (too much time spent 'researching' online?). It sounds handy for a dog owner though. I can't imagine you doing that with a Smart Car without getting really . "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-21-10  02:41pm - 5359 days #14
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Originally Posted by Khan:


We'll see if any of your fellow PU's chime in with questions of their own.


Boxers or briefs?

Just kidding! But seriously you did make short but informative work of those questions, and it always surprises me that you apologize for your English--it always sounds/reads clear to me, though maybe the keyboard 'improves' your accent a little. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-20-10  09:34pm - 5360 days #18
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


I'd like to see a world-wide poll of people and their thoughts on elective surgery - especially breast augmentations. I think the majority would say there's no need for all the bullshit enhancements.


I would bet many of the people who get plastic surgery don't even think of the world outside their little bubble so "world-wide" wouldn't mean shit to them. And if those same people have the money to spend on vanity surgery then they probably have no concept of what it is like to live in many other parts of the world, where people don't have the money to buy food or medicine, much less a breast implant.

Whew! Got a little too there for a moment, but I think I'm okay... Don't get me wrong though; we are quite lucky that we, and much of the west in general, have enough money and resources to 'improve' ourselves beyond the limits of what nature seems to be able to produce (so much for 'intelligent design') but just because we can doesn't necessarily mean we always should. Of course don't say that to an eager beaver plastic surgeon--many of them seem to have the idea that something is inherently wrong and it must be fixed. But to me that seems kinda insulting to women. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Apr 20, 2010, 09:38pm

04-17-10  11:01pm - 5363 days #8
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I think the most distirbuing one I've read is one about the Golden Girls.
Now that is seriously fucked up.


Hustler had/has a series called Golden Girls but the title is in reference to pissing not the senior sitcom TV series, which I guess is probably good news to some but also probably a turnoff for others. As I remember the titular action is sort of just thrown in there, that is it's unrelated to the sex.

I think the most I get out of the parodies is the name or just the concept. " 'Who's Nailin' Palin'? Sounds funny but I'm probably not going to watch it."

I remember an SNL sketch from a few years ago where the guest host, Adrien Brody, was playing a porn producer and him and a bunch of other guys were sitting around a table coming up with the titles for porn parodies of current films. They finally get to 'The Pianist' (which Brody had recently won the best actor Oscar for) and they were really stumped. I wonder if this really happens; I mean how would you parody films with such great titles as 'Octopussy' 'Pootie Tang' or 'Snatch'? Those already sound like porn in the first place (and I am sure some naive filmgoers were very disappointed after sitting through them)! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-17-10  02:49pm - 5363 days #4
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Have they made a parody of Avatar yet? I am guessing the CGI costs are just too much right now. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-17-10  02:44pm - 5363 days #8
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


I'm glad Explicite Art is there. John Root and all his kookiness has some really nice exclusive models there and in my opinion, the sexiest collection of black models. I still think he would benefit from changing Art to Sex, as I'm sure some think it's a softcore site.


Me too; when I was a member of EA I loved the content, and it's pretty cool to see a French site make it to the Top 10. It's definitely not softcore though, but my thinking is that their almost total lack of the more American-style of ritual and habitual abuse of female models makes people think it's not truly 'hardcore' in the slap-choke-spit-gape manner.

Originally Posted by exotics4me:


ALS, it would be my #1 site if Alex would combine ALS Scan with ALS Angels. Instead, I find myself hardly joining either. I like the quantity of updates and content of ALS Scan, but prefer the models of ALS Angels. To join them both without that special he was running, costs $55 a month. If other sites separated models by slim/curvy, I wouldn't complain about it, but as it is, I think he's the only one who does it and charges for two sites to get the models you can get on all other sites with one charge. He'll read this and tell me to shutup already


I agree that it would be great if he combined them, but it's probably not happening anytime soon. I personally prefer ALS Scan over Angels but I do get very curious when Angels content is mentioned in the blog--total tease and really toys with my emotions (and credit card). Can't we end this horrible practice of segregation? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-17-10  02:36pm - 5363 days #7
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Originally Posted by Denner:


AND about ALS - look forward to any reaction/answer here from Webm.



They might not even read it. They are a busy bunch, which certainly shows, and the webmaster--at least the one who responds here, and who is not Alex--probably checks the review pages for new comments and replies there more often than in other areas of PU. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Apr 17, 2010, 02:47pm

04-17-10  02:29pm - 5363 days #6
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Interesting list - some I would expect to see - ALS Scan, Met Art, In The Crack, Videobox, others (Fucking Gamble), I'm thinking - huh?


Agreed!

I don't think I had even heard of Fucking Gamble until I read the thread and it definitely doesn't look like my kind of site.

I am also curious about Suicide Girls; I would have thought it was a small niche, not a Top 10. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-15-10  10:22pm - 5365 days #31
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iFlop? If only it were so. Then all the Steve Jobs cultists could stop wasting their money and maybe get a life. But then again Apple has a real knack for making niches for products that never existed until they thought them up/pulled them out of their ass. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-15-10  10:11pm - 5365 days #7
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I have to chime in and say that I did come up with an idea for a Global Porn Vault back in the Timeless Porn thread I started last February. If you don't have anything to entertain you after a global apocalyptic event what's the point in saving all those damn seeds, you might as well just die and .

I sort of agree with WG that there should be a law passed but that instead of passing the material onto other sites it should automatically become public domain and be distributed for free. The federal government should dissolve the FCC and in its place create the FPP (Federal Porn Panel) to organize and archive the goods for Internet users. Once all the scammers, spammers, and stealers get an idea of what they could have been paying for they will start paying for new stuff and keep more sites from going defunct.

Okay maybe not, but I doubt even badandy has enough space for all the material...at least for now. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-15-10  08:00pm - 5365 days #29
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Not sure how people are going to carry it around too easily either; it doesn't look pocket sized.

Enter the iPack or iBag? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-14-10  03:35pm - 5366 days #128
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You're not kidding--just read about our Civil War (though interestingly enough if you were to listen to the current governor of Virginia you might think it was unrelated to slavery).

It's one of the big issues concerning the latest health care reform; that the federal government cannot mandate how individual states 'provide' health care to their citizens. Sigh... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-14-10  03:19pm - 5366 days #126
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Isn't the simplest thing not to make porn in Western Virginia?


Actually WG said "Northern Virginia," not Western Virginia, but I thought the trial would be held in D.C., because that's where the district court that indicted him is located. (You can actually read a PDF copy of the actual indictment here if you interested.) Though considering Virginia's outright fear and prohibition of sex outside of marriage--literally, it's on the books--I would not be surprised if he was tried there as well.

The problem is not really where the 'obscene' material is made, but the community whose standards define it as such. The legal troubles seem to start when things are transported and sold in places that would consider them obscene, sort of like how Americans risk having a lot of European porn seized (and probably watched repeatedly) by customs because it can generally be defined as obscene to the U.S. as a whole.

Regardless I always cry a little more inside every time I hear about one of these cases. Obscene? Really? All the problems in this country, not even counting all the things we have to resolve overseas, and some morons get offended enough to bring charges against Stagliano and his company, lest the earth split open and we all get swallowed up in an apocalyptic sinkhole? I can just hear Pat Robertson or some other brainiac spouting the same old bullshit; "This country's tolerance and liberal-led embrace of sodomy and homosexuality is why God is punishing us right now. Now send me some money."

The Miller test also disgusts me because community standards can vary so widely within a country, and even within a district. I mean, I would not like a community in the South to dictate anti-discrimination laws and policies for all of the U.S. so why should it be okay for a single community to interpret (usually limit) the 1st Amendment? Few other modern western countries would apply such draconian standards to adult entertainment yet we in the U.S. seem to do it quite easily, and as we continue to hold ourselves up as the freest country on earth. Something's not quite right here and it fucking ! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on May 18, 2010, 01:59pm

04-14-10  02:42pm - 5366 days #27
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Am I the only one still using Netscape?


Possibly--I thought the latest versions of Netscape were last released years ago, like early 2000s. I seem to remember reading it was Microsoft that had worked so hard in the late '90s to take them down since it was becoming such a popular browser. Now I wonder, will they ever get rid of Explorer? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-13-10  07:49pm - 5367 days #13
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Funny and very bitter post, WG--makes RB sound positively happy!

I can sort of understand women getting the breast implants as the breast is pretty much unaffected by gym memberships, though I am sure working the pectorals can add a couple of millimeters. But guys, well, the one I saw on that plastic sergeant site was already pretty muscular and the difference I saw was minimal. He was pretty hairy and heavily tattooed--both of which can be taken care of by laser surgery, thank you very much--so the pectoral implants seemed pretty wasteful. Plus I only noticed the difference in the side profile view which was also without a shirt.

Wouldn't the money have been better and more painlessly spent just buying some jewelry for whomever he was trying to impress?

(And is Wittyguy's avatar the result of an enormous bicep implant, or is it au naturel? ) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-13-10  11:37am - 5367 days #13
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Originally Posted by yadayada321:


I'm a newbie and I feel right at home with the rest of you sickos.


That's the spirit! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-13-10  11:35am - 5367 days #8
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I don't think I had even heard of Heidi Montag until this thread, but now that I have I don't even think she's that attractive, before or after. (No hate mail please. )

By the way, lk2fireone, that plastic sergeant site really made me laugh--male pectoral implants! I guess as long as you have the money... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-11-10  06:49pm - 5369 days #15
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


On a postive note, yes to PU power! RB for president!


Lol! Now that would be funny; RB is nominated to run for president and at his acceptance speech he takes the podium and says "You're all a bunch of moronic sheeple. You can take your nomination and shove it up your ass! Good day," as he walks off to gasps of horror and a smattering of applause. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-10-10  10:59pm - 5370 days #28
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Originally Posted by Miss Hybrid:


PPS

why are all you old men so obsessed with teen sites.

Do you not find that slightly disturbing? I do.


I don't want to take this quote too much out of context but maybe PU should replace its slogan "porn reviews by the people" with "old men obsessed with teen sites."

That would be slightly disturbing as well. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-10-10  10:10pm - 5370 days #6
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Lol! I love pointing out and making fun of your 'rage' as often as possible. Whenever I read one of your angry comments or replies I picture your old avatar (an old angry headshot, if I'm not mistaken) and can't help but wonder how related it is to the 'raging Buddha' in you. The nice thing about ribbing you about your anger is you understand it for what it is--humor! You don't cry and whine and then go suspend your account.

I myself am a proud cynic as well and definitely understand your signature "If you're not cynical, you're not paying attention," because it explains so much about the world. I have never followed, much less understood, the philosophy of "Ignorance is bliss," as how can anyone be that happy if they are really that ignorant? I have never been one to live life with blinders on, all the while smiling and blithering like an idiot to whomever is within earshot.

I'm not nihilistic or psychotic but just realistic. Not quite the George Carlin philosophy of "I don't have pet peeves, I have major psychotic fucking hatreds! And it makes the world a lot easier to sort out," but a little closer to the Lewis Black approach of "Hey listen, you fuck! You're an idiot!" Life sucks, you suck, Krypton sucks, and so on (not sure about that third one, but it sounded right...).

Also like you mentioned, RB, pointing out some of this idiocy can be fun, at least in moderation. Yes, I honk at shitty drivers, but not at the ones with visible gun racks or police escorts. And of course when it all comes back to you and you're the idiot, then, well, at least you learn something. "You mean you can't fix a hard drive with a hammer? Ooops!"

Oh, and your comment;

Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:



I hope all this eases the minds of anyone who pictures me climbing a tower with an assault weapon one day. That's not me at all!



Don't worry, I never thought that at all, and probably neither did anyone else. But I can empathize because I think I have had to assure at least a few people that, no, I'm not psychotic (not that there's anything wrong with that!), just very cynical;
-"Oh, he's not a nutcase after all, just pissed off."
-"Yeah, and kind of and an asshole too."

D'oh! I guess it comes with the territory. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-10-10  09:15pm - 5370 days #12
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Ramscrota started a thread early last year about browsers but it's a constantly changing subject so it's good to have a new thread.

I use Firefox for pretty much everything. The only time I use something else is when I install/update it and then go Okay, back to Firefox. I think I have both Opera and Chrome installed but it's been months since they were even opened.

I don't think I like the interface of either of them, particularly Chrome's which made me feel powerless. It felt like the designers were saying "Cookies and browsing history, why would you ever want to delete that, you silly Internet surfer you!" With Firefox you can tweak a lot of stuff, and if you're really crafty, or just curious, you can type in about:config and look under the hood and start messing around until the engine shuts down. (Actually, I think you have to do that to control image resizing, so it's not all tech geekdom modifications.)

Firefox is not quite as fast as it used to be, or at least seemed to be, and it's really crazy how many add-ons are available. I have seen screen shots of some people's Firefox setups and looks like they are trying to run Wall Street while forecasting the weather--insane amount of bullshit making it look like you're watching cable news.

I don't remember the last time I even thought about Explorer much less even used it. Oh well, a lot of people still used Windows and Office, so Microsoft isn't going out of business anytime soon. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-10-10  08:59pm - 5370 days #55
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Wow, I lose my power for the day (not snow related) and PU goes to hell in a hand basket--this whole Interweb technology moves too fast for me!

I guess one lesson is too never befriend a webmaster too personally, or you could risk burning yourself out trying to defend him or her. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-09-10  10:30am - 5371 days #13
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I would like to hear from turboshaft and larss. Both have made a lot of interesting points.


I might have to plead the Fifth on some of my answers. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-08-10  10:48pm - 5372 days #9
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Seymore's son was from his relationship with Taylor Hayes, if I remember correctly.

Family Business had a lot of good BTS footage of porn sets. Seymore also would get contracted by Adam & Eve to do BTS of their big-budget shoots. I watched one of those movies.


Yes, I think you're right; he has a son (should be in his teens by now, uh oh) from his Taylor Hayes days, when she was one of his earlier Tushy Girls. It seems pretty much every one of his serious relationships--women who do more than just fuck him on camera--usually end quite badly and with a total break-off, I seriously doubt he could ever contract a performer because she might walk out on him and never come back. Still, he has a steady stream of talent coming in so I doubt he has much need for a steady relationship.

Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


ALS Scan did their BTS of the Club Sandy shoot with Tanner Mayes a while ago.
[...]
In the end, people make porn and people are a varied lot - I kind of like 'em.


I kind of like 'em too, plus I'm only watching them so there's not too much to complain about.

To be honest I enjoy watching about 90% of what's in BTS footage, be it humorous, boring, or just plain crazy, but that remaining 10% is the stuff that cancels out whatever made all the other stuff somewhat watchable. I am talking about the creepy, depressing, or just plain nasty (I'm talking about personalities here) that can really hurt how you look at a performer or maybe just the business in general.

I remember watching an ALS video once and like the vast majority of their videos it was BTS of a photo shoot, and then, basically out of nowhere, the model--pretty, sweet, and one of my favorites at the time--dropped a little bomb that has stuck in my perverted mind ever since. Now what she said could have been a joke, but it would have been an awful and really mean joke and she didn't even sound like she was joking. My point is that from now on every time I happen to watch a video of hers (she is a hottie) I keep thinking back to what she said and it flashes in the back of my mind like a great big neon sign. Hey, enjoying this video? Well, in case you forgot, here's that little thing she said to fuck with you every time you try to sit back and enjoy one of her videos! Ah ha ha ha!

I sometimes think my brain hates me, because it's always remembering the shit I wish to toss out and forget! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Apr 09, 2010, 01:07am

04-08-10  10:20pm - 5372 days #34
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Oh, sure. What I like is uncommon enough that I've spent years churning my own butter, if you'll pardon the expression.


Lol...yum! Oh wait, I mean "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-08-10  10:04pm - 5372 days #15
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


And it happens with movies, books, TV serials, etc. It happens in the work that I do, too. People on the outside really do not understand and they have a lot of preconceptions, some of which are just ridiculous.


Very true--everyone's a critic and an expert! Why? Because we say we are, damn it!

But seriously, if I had the money and time to burn on my own attempt at starting a site I would honestly at least look into it. I am not married, definitely open-minded, and if I am careful and I choose the right name it will keep the local church groups from having me tarred and feathered...at least for awhile.

And then when I finally realize that 'server size' has nothing to do with food or restaurants and I have a sizable list of death threats from angry ex-models I can sit back and watch my creation go down in flames--as the angry townspeople riot outside my offices a la Frankenstein demanding my head on a platter and that my dirty pictures be burned. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Apr 09, 2010, 01:01am

04-08-10  09:33pm - 5372 days #14
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Originally Posted by pornwatcher:


Because once you get involved with a porn business, you are unemployable in any other business. If they find out, nobody would hire you. Unlike Europe, the United States is still very puritan when it comes to sexuality. It's sad but it's true.


This point has been made in other threads before and it's no joke. There are even legal factors to consider before making porn; you run quite a risk when making porn outside a few locales in the U.S. A website is probably a little different than shooting video for a studio but many Americans have a lot of growing up to do, especially when it comes to s-e-x (think of the children!). Just look at the reaction to the recent health care 'reform' bill being passed--we're an angry reactive people. Maybe not enough people are getting good porn?

Losing money is one thing, losing your freedom is different. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-08-10  09:26pm - 5372 days #12
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


In one way or another, I've been doing customer service related work for the last 12 years and I'm well aware that you can't please everyone. I've been cussed out to my face, blamed for things I had nothing to do with and even threatened with physical harm. None of that matters to me as long as I know I've represented my product well.


Gee, no wonder you're so angry! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-08-10  12:53pm - 5372 days #114
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Yeah, it's pretty funny; Star Wars devotees keep complaining about the prequels and 'selling out' and so forth and then they keep going in droves to every release and rerelease. I've even complained about the prequels but I still went to see the third one...

There's a pretty simple answer to the fanboys who keep wanting their favorite episode/film/whatever redone the same over and over again: go to the store and buy it because it's already been done. Have a real boner for Episode IV? Well guess what--it's already been made and is available on DVD! Love the old Indiana Jones films and not the fourth one? Also on DVD! You can relive your special favorites over and over again! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-07-10  03:33pm - 5373 days #6
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Originally Posted by pornwatcher:


Any documentary about this?


Though the word "documentary" might be a stretch, Showtime had a reality series (there's the problem!) about Seymore Butts called "Family Business" that ran for at least three seasons I think. I have yet to watch any of it for a number of reasons, but mostly because I usually enjoy watching his videos and I don't want to have another 'favorite' ruined because I made the mistake of taking a peek behind the scenes.

This may also not be exactly what you're looking for since he does mostly gonzo POV stuff that is not exactly the mainstream but it still probably reflects a lot of American porn, at least stuff in the Valley. Interestingly the show's title is pretty literal as he does work with his family in the business of selling his videos and he's supposedly pretty close to them, though he has yet to get married or find a long term partner. Wonder why? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-06-10  12:48am - 5374 days #55
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


RB is really stubborn; not like me. I am current and up to date. Just loaded up DOS 3.11 and it's so much better than DOS 3.01.

Just worried about Y2K and what that could do to my computer.


Way to think ahead, Monahan! Of course if you're really paranoid you could always get a 'backup' typewriter--manual of course, don't want to have to rely on electricity for a backup!

Or better yet, since the typewriter's ribbon could run out sooner than you might think, invest in a nice abacus plus a slate and a large package of chalk. Take that Steve Jobs and Bill Gates! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-05-10  09:30am - 5375 days #13
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Originally Posted by larss:


Jewellery is no good - shoes is what tempts 'em.


And they can never feel too guilty about owning shoes like they could about diamonds; I mean I've never heard of blood shoes so I think they're in the clear. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-05-10  09:27am - 5375 days #52
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Originally Posted by Rick:


Curious to know what's holding you back from upgrading to the latest Firefox. I find it much faster and more stable than older versions.


I think RB is a stubborn holdout for older software. I believe he's even still using a version of Windows from the early 2000s. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-03-10  11:48pm - 5377 days #10
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Nautica was amazing in seemingly remembering everyone that she had met in detail [...] A few months later, I went to see her feature at her usual club in San Fran. While she was on stage, she set eyes on me. Her eyes got huge, she got a bright beautiful smile on her face, saying "Hey! When are we going to that club?"


Is that why your avatar has huge eyes, PP? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-03-10  11:45pm - 5377 days #9
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


Most people in porn, acting, music, media in general, are clearly complete assholes. The big difference is whether they are complete assholes to you personally. It's why it is best not to meet them.


I don't know if "most people in porn" or any of the other fields you mentioned are assholes, at least not "clearly" so. ; ) But I'm sure plenty of them are just like any other group of people.

I don't think it would necessarily be the asshole trait but maybe something else that could ruin the fantasy for you if you ever get to meet your favorite star, especially if it's in a convention setting and after she's already met and greeted four dozen or so pimply sweaty fanboys ahead of you in line--that's my big fear. That and the look of horror on her face when she first meets me will forever be burned into my memory!

It's probably best I leave my fantasies as fantasies...until I start directing my own videos--then I can burn their looks of horror to DVD as well! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-02-10  07:49pm - 5378 days #33
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Originally Posted by pinkerton:


The only problem I have with POV is that you don't get as good views of the girl that you'd get otherwise.


True the views in POV content are not as good as the non-POV stuff but I think the appeal is pretty obvious for a couple of reasons, both related to how and/or what you view;

1.) It's the POV of, normally but not always, the guy doing the pretty girl, hence it's a little closer to the fantasy so many of us have of bumping uglies with our favorite performer. Granted it may not be your wet noodle up there on screen whacking away at her holiest of holeys but it's better than watching from the more traditional third person perspective if you prefer the 'interactionist' feel.

2.) And like I mentioned earlier if it's the dude's POV then it's not the cameraman's POV which more often than not will be straddled by the male performer and way too far up his sweating thighs and way too close to his backdoor. If you're watching POV and somehow the camera ends up under his ass then he's either an extreme contortionist (even for a porn star) or the video just needs some more editing. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-02-10  05:18pm - 5378 days #40
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Okay. [smiley face]

I agree they can be used to excess pretty easily. I am not a fan of the animated ones--very distracting when I am trying to type a reply, on top of trying to keep my grammar and syntax at least readable. I've been hitting ESC a lot to stop them from moving. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-01-10  12:19pm - 5379 days #3
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A webmaster (actually webmistress) started a thread way back in '08 about an Oprah article that talked about more women watching porn than is traditionally thought. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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