> They do take up alot of space 4-5 GBs
Do you know what kind of bitrate they have? Or at least can you tell how long one single file is (in minutes) and how large it is (in gigabytes)?
> Brazzers if brighter with much richer color textures.
With AssTraffic colors already being IMHO vastly oversaturated, I can't say it's a good thing if somebody has even more saturated colors.
> Put it this way, I have a very powerful computer that plays the
> Brazzers HD smoothly with no problem at all, but if I try to fast
> forward a scene it will not let me do it, the video freezes. No
> other HD porn has ever given me that problem.
And you see that "video freezes" as an ADVANTAGE for Brazzers?? No comments.
Oh, so not only their marketing, but also their programmers went downhill recently; doesn't look too good for them :-(. Still, if they refunded money, it's not a bad sign (most of the sites won't bother at all with refunding and even with answering e-mails these days :-(( ).
> I have to ask how you've missed all the comments and reviews about this site...
I didn't really miss them, but there are two reasons why I still wrote this comment:
1. Even after reading reviews, I didn't expect it to be THAT bad.
2. with average PU rating being in 85+ range, I don't think it is yelled loud enough :-).
Was a member approx. 2 months prior to this review.
Pros:
++ surprisingly good "script play" by porn models
++ very good lighting
++ very good cameraguy work
++ very good locations
+ big network
+ reasonable variety even without single site
+ good SD video quality
+ frequent updates
Cons:
----- Outright cheating about HD right from the home page
--- pre-checked cross-sales
- somewhat overgrown recent SD video files (2.3Mbit/s for 768x432).
Bottom Line:
I would like to say that Brazzers could be one of the networks to wish for as a Christmas present :-), if not for what I consider CHEATING their own users :-(.
On the surface they look as just one of the many networks (most of which are poor-quality and boooring), but if going inside, it seems that Brazzers do everything (except for ONE thing) just a bit better, and it makes a BIG difference.
Video quality is VISIBLY better then usual, models are a BIT better then usual, locations and lighting/cameraguy work are EXCELLENT. They even managed to add some variety to their sites, and make models play scripts in quite believable way. From technical point of view, while I don't think that 2.3MBit/s is what really required for their recent 768x432 videos, but IMHO there is nothing TOO bad about it.
Overall, quality is excellent, amount of material is enormous, updates are frequent, and there is some additional twist is added by locations and scripts. What else could you can wish for? Just one thing - that they would not CHEAT on their own users. And when you click on their home page a big sign which says "Join now and embrace the future with the best HD experience", you get to "Join" page with prices, pay, and only THEN figure out that HD they've promised you pon home page is EXTRA which you need to PAY FOR (so-called "Brazzers Credits"). The more I think about it, the more it looks as CHEATING for me.
As a result, while their productions team is second to none, and I would like to put a 90 mark for them, I feel compelled to deduct 5 points for PRE-CHECKED cross-sales, and another 10 - for this CHEATING with HD, so it makes 75 now.
IF they will at least TELL UPFRONT that HD is EXTRA, I would still rant how bad this practice is, but at least it will be fair warning for the users, and I will be happy to remove those deductions I've mentioned above.
P.S. What I would wish for a Christmas present: if Brazzers would keep their excellent production team but will fire their over-aggressive sales team; BTW, I think it would be helpful for the site in the long run, because CHEATING YOUR OWN USERS doesn't usually work long.
Brazzers home page at the moment of this post says: "Now in FULL HD", and "Join now and embrace the future with the best HD experience". If you click on "Join now...", you will get to "Join page", with prices. But there is NOTHING to tell you, that when you pay, you will NOT get this HD stuff they were talking about, but will need to pay EVEN MORE to get it.
> As for Ass Traffic, it is a site that I was vaguely familiar with before but had never had an interest in membership. Now after having had a look they do indeed shoot vids in 1080p so it probably does match Brazzers offer from that standpoint.
Thanks for comment, but did you REALLY compare Brazzers stuff with Asstrafic HD samples (I think they do have HD sample for free)?
> legitimate beefs with the Brazzers model that I do agree with. First if...
VERY FIRST, they MUST tell RIGHT ON THEIR HOME PAGE that all the HD they're telling about on their home page (like "NOW IN FULL HD" and "Join now and embrace the future with the best HD experience") will NOT be available for the price they're asking for. Do you think THIS kind of stuff (telling user "Join now and embrace the future with the best HD experience", and THEN, when he clicks there and 'Joins now', PAYING them money they're asking, to ask MORE for this very 'HD experience' they've just promised and he just paid for") is fair?? This is CHEATING (or MISLEADING advertisement AT THE VERY LEAST), and IF I would join them because of HD they advertise, I would FOR SURE ask my bank to revert transaction.
Is there a chance of them stopping this kind of CHEATING of THEIR OWN USERS? I don't think so, unless they will get hit by reversed transactions because of it (which I hope for).
1. Are you sure their stuff is really better than HD from AssTraffic? I doubt it (and AssTraffic is NOT charging anything extra for them, and DOES provide good download speeds).
2. WHOLE 100% of your reply is EXACTLY what their support / webmaster would say in reply to user ranting about their newer policies (ESPECIALLY passages like "if you still want to get the HD vids you have two ways to do so. Purchase the credits, or remain a member for 6 months."). Rather strange, isn't it?
Thanks for warning, I need to double-check my credit card bill (they didn't overcharge me for 1100, but a few bucks could have slipped without me noticing it). But if they DID charge for something which didn't happen, I really think it will be THEM who will be in trouble, not ME. My bank is usually pretty customer-friendly when disputing credit card charges (yes, they ask lots of questions, especially "Did you already try to contact the merchant?"), but after all they are doing their job pretty good.
Putting video encoding quality aside and concentrating on the content itself (and anyone paying attention to my rants all over PU will know that it is content itself what matters to me :-)), I will say that from what I've seen to date (which admittedly is too little yet to form reliable opinion), they're MUCH less boring and repetitive then MOST of the sites out there. Just one example of creativity not to be found elsewhere: session of underwater sex in scuba diving gear (from BigTitsInSports); for me it's a clear sign that their production team does indeed care about the footage they're producing.
And BTW, I'm pretty sure that ANY adult web site with regular updates is BOUND to be repetitive. While it is sad, but there aren't too many ways to vary adult scenes :-(. Give me ANY site and I'll make the very same "repetitive content" argument about it. And comparing Brazzers to other networks (like, for example, FilthFreaks or Jerk-Off Pass), IMHO Brazzers are MUCH less repetitive.
Their deceitful marketing is a completely different story, and I'm completely on your side in this regard.
> And yet, they must be doing something right - people keep going back.
Not sure about the "adult industry", but in other areas it's common to have marketing guys fairly separate from the "production" guys. So it seems to me that Brazzers have good content production team (these are the guys who're "doing something right") and horribly greedy marketing team (which I'm pretty sure will backfire sooner rather than later).
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I shall say I HATE this kind of squeezing money out of me (especially when it's kind of stuff which goes for free elsewhere).
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+ orgy as advertised
+ all-black action as advertised (black guys, black girls)
+ plenty of action, including anal and occasional DP
++ real emotions (or a very good imitation)
+ initial conversation adds an additional twist
+ decent quality pictures
+- decent lighting and cameraguy work (at least compared to previously reviewed FilthFreaks sites)
Cons:
- girls are not models, some are ugly
-- only 400x300 clips
-- PRE_CHECKED cross-sales when purchasing
- cross-sales within member area
- technical problems with the site
- no ZIPped downloads
-- supposedly no updates
Bottom Line:
After disappointment with first two sites of FilthFreaks network (see my reviews of BlackGangWhiteBang and ALuckyStranger), I didn't really expect much from BubbleButtOrgy, and I shall say that I was pleasantly surprised with it.
The site is about several black girls (4 to 6) and several black guys (about the same number) having fun together. Girls are not models, and some are ugly, but on the plus side they seem to have fun (unlike girls in BlackGangWhiteBang). Every episode starts with some conversation and/or girls showing their assets (usually assets are substantial), and then it moves towards the all-out orgy, which usually includes some anal, and sometimes includes DP.
Site has about 22 episodes, each consisting of 12-20 clips 5 minutes each. This is where lack of ZIP-ped downloads kicks in, as downloading 20 clips one by one is not fun. Unlike BlackGangWhiteBang and ALuckyStranger, pictures are not screencaps, but are from separate photoshoot, and are of decent size (varies, but can be as much as 2900 width). Updates are not dated and most likely are absent. As with the other FilthFreaks sites, I've experienced a few "Cannot find server" errors.
Bottom line: not bad content, provided that you're not scared by mediocre girls (who on the plus side can have fun on camera). Unfortunately, lack of updates and minor glitches here and there make this site not so interesting, but if FilthFreaks have more sites of similar quality (and NOT like BlackGangWhiteBang and ALuckyStranger), the network might be worth the price (again, if you're not scared away by mediocre girls).
Was a member approx. 5 months prior to this review.
Pros:
- models are just great, period.
- photographers work (lighting etc.) is top-notch without any doubt;
- 'public' live chat included into the price;
- live chat models are excellent;
- live chat setup is above-average.
Cons:
- resolution isn't that good;
- navigation can be made better.
- live chat models tend to work good only in private;
- not much hardcore on site in general;
- pricing is in EUR, which currently means bad news for customers paying in $US.
Bottom Line:
The site is about beautiful European girls, that's it. Mostly softcore, though they have hardcore section; softcore section is really huge, hardcore not so. Site is made by the same guys who make famous 'Seventeen' videos (which are REALLY beautiful; site is not exactly on par with their videos, but still very good).
They have live chat with nude girls included into the price, but girls are rarely enthusiastic until you invite them in 'private'. Girls seem to be either Czech, or Ukrainian; their English is usually 'fair', not 'excellent'.
Bottom line: recommended it you're into beautiful girls in really nice setups with really nice photographer's work and don't care too much about pricing.
This comment has been inspired by poll of May 15, 2008 on https://www.pornusers.com/browse_polls.html . For this purpose, I've took 10 completely random sites to see if there are chances they're "unethical".
Results of reviewing non-member area: Link to "tour" leads to the same page. Link to http://www.crazydrunkgirls.com/ doesn't work at all. Not much promises (except for "full length videos" and access to 50 more sites). Their page states that "PaycomEU.net/Epoch.com/EPOCHEU.COM"; is their "authorized sales agent", but billing is done by "AdInHelp.com".
Bottom line: you should be crazy drunk to join this site, but IMHO because of not much promises they make it doesn't look likely they're essentially unethical.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+ unique idea (kind of Strip Truth or Dare);
+ players seem to play for real;
+ players seem to have lots of fun;
+ models are of 'girl-next-door' kind, but quite good;
+ decent quality videos;
+ non-recurring subscription;
+ webboard which is still active (despite lack of updates, see 'cons' below);
Cons:
- no more updates;
- game rules are not posted;
- very few guys, some games are girl-only;
- pretty slow and mild action;
- no stills;
- cameraguy work could be better;
- interlacing is visible (hate it);
Bottom Line:
Another "real reality" (= "no scripting") site; does seem genuine play without action being scripted. In short - it's kind of StripGameCentral (see my review of it), but with videos and at least some action. Unfortunately, not updated anymore, which is on the other hand compensated by non-recurring subscription though, so it's a kind of fair deal - pay once and get all they've got to date.
What you get for your money is 12 games, each about 2 hours length, video only. Videos are quite good in quality (640x480x1300kBit/s), though I hate interlacing being visible. Each game starts with players fully dressed and taking random cards to perform, with answering sex questions, undressing and kissing. It becomes more and more hot with time, but in the end it doesn't go further than oral action :-(.
Also I should note that it becomes quite boring after viewing a few games - the same game, about the same questions and dares; bonus games (like "naked twister" and "blowjob roulette" somewhat help it though.
Overall, it looks as a pretty good implementation of an interesting idea, and it's a pity that site owner didn't go with it further; I feel that there is a lot of room for improvement and if some more efforts, it could become a wonderful site.
Bottom line: if you do like pretty mild action and girls undressing, and/or you do like non-scripted site, it can easily be worth a look at one-time non-recurring $19.95.
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
Pros:
+ full Diabolic videos
+ videos are often released on site almost simultaneously with DVD releases
+ tons of videos
+ production quality (setups, lighting, cameraguy work) is extremely good (not surprising for Diabolic videos)
+ frequent updates
Cons:
- even newer videos are of not that good encoding quality (640x480x1.5MBit/s); while appropriate for some other stuff, Diabolic videos suffer from it greatly
- video quality of old videos is really low (400x300x650kBit/s)
- content within the same series is repetitive and soon becomes boring
- girls aren't always pretty (not that surprising for this kind of content, but Diabolic could probably do better)
- swindling attempt by Diabolic/Epoch (see my comment)
Bottom Line:
I should say that as a strange side effect of subscribing to this site I became a bit disappointed not about this site, but about Diabolic as a movie studio. While their movies are of really good quality (setups, lighting, cameraguy work) especially by adult web standards, seeing all of them in one place reveals that there are quite few themes and most of them quickly become quite repetitive.
Other than that, there is not much to say in addition to TBP site facts. Yes, they are full Diabolic videos, yes, there are lots of them, yes, they're released to the site very close to releasing DVDs, but quality isn't nearly that good that you'll get on DVD (and for Diabolic videos you will see the difference, it's NOT homemade production which doesn't suffer from encoding); older videos are of measly 400x300, newer are 640x480 but I've seen better encoding at this resolution, in particular color balance looks very degraded compared to Diabolic DVDs). Sex (as usual for Diabolic) is on rough side, with lots of anal/DP/A2M and other such stuff, but girls aren't always really pretty (not too surprising, but Diabolic could probably do better).
Bottom line: could be really good site for Diabolic fans or fans of professionally shot rough porn, but only if you don't care too much about encoding quality. Personally I'd prefer to see less videos and/or only older ones, but of significantly higher quality.
It would be indeed "cross-sale" and "special offer" if checkbox is NOT pre-checked (like reputable sites and processors like CCBill do). If it is pre-checked, I name it swindling; sure, you can invent your own names. BTW, I'm pretty sure that my issuing bank will side with me in disputing this charge if I will ever fail to notice such small print (on payment page I was selecting some specific price, and was charged a different one, with amount actually being charged being NEVER shown to me; that should be enough for bank, VISA or court to revert this charge and put fines as well as punitive damages to processor and/or merchant). Disclaimer: opinions here are just my personal opinions and shouldn't be taken as legal advice.
When signing in to Diabolic, got the following PRE-CHECKED checkbox in a rather small print:
"Sign me up for a 3 day No Charge Membership to www.pornstarstop.com. After 3 days, Membership renews automatically at $34.12 every 1 month."
As this kind of things upsets me greatly, I've decided not to proceed at this point.
Wow, thanks for the information, but how can I see if any of the other users also has such suspicious "computer sharing"? Or you just automatically suspend them?
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