What puts me off this site is the same thing that puts me of John Root as a porn producer. His clips nearly always feature condomed sex. If you don't mind that, then fine, you may enjoy the clips. I just wont pay for condomed sex scenes as I find them a total turn off.
For me ECG and Czech First Video (part of Czech AV), are the only sites I know (along with Backroom Casting Couch) that do this sort of thing, and do it well. There are plenty of other audition type sites, but for me these three are head and shoulders above everything else in this niche. Most of the others are phony and have some very regular and professional models pretending to be amateurs, or have truly dire quality.
Yes, but it is far from cookie cutter porn. The use of the split screen is another thing that varies. I think it is used more now than it was a couple of years ago. It's effective at times, but sometimes imo it detracts from the action.
Thanks Capn, yes hardcore is a big part of this site, with the reaction of the girls having sex for the first time on camera quite a prominent part. There are some softcore pics, with stripping, some updates have no pics, some have softcore only, and some have hardcore.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
No DRM, download limits, or pre checked cross selling.
Beautiful amateur girls in a good variety of shape size and colour.
Genuinely amateur and individual content with its own style.
Exclusive material and most of the girls will not be seen elsewhere.
Good lighting considering the niche.
Good streaming.
Good download speed.
Zipped pics.
Named files.
Girls listed chronological and alphabetically.
Inviting home pages and easy navigation.
Still updating.
Easy log in, site remembers your details, with only an easy to see word to copy.
Good customer oriented feel.
Cons:
Poor rip off exchange rate with CCBill sign up.
Male lead can be a bit irritating at times.
One type of material.
No network of bonus sites.
A few too many fake breasts, and especially tattoos.
Condoms becoming more common.
Blurred face of male can sometimes spoil action.
Some bad camerawork and views at times. Can be amateurish.
New pics look like screencaps.
A polarised niche, you either love it or hate it.
Bottom Line:
It's just an opinion but Exploited College Girls, takes this niche and nails it brilliantly. The girl next door types are the type you wish really were living next door instead of that rottweiler, but you know you'll never get that lucky.
There is a real amateur feel here and a lack of gloss, but the girls are so beautiful they don't need much gloss, they just need someone competent enough not to fuck up capturing them on video, and merely need to look their natural gorgeous best. This is where ECG scores. It is professionally lit, edited, and photographed well enough to be erotic, with the girls looking stunning. For me it's an excellent blend of professionalism and DIY amateurism, which isn't easy to do, because so many times you see beautiful girls being made to look unbelievably unsexy, by lousy lighting, bad excessive makeup, awful camerawork with awful unflattering angles, shot by morons you wouldn't trust to shoot a rock without blurring the picture.
The recent shoots are dated and I counted 286 girls a few weeks ago. Membership gives bonus access to Backroom Casting Couch, (on a quality par with ECG), and Net Video Girls plus some free movies. This isn't a network, it's a standalone DIY site, with quality material, and beautiful girls. Given the one man and his camera thing, it's done in a professional enough way to show off the girls to maximum effect, plus you get plenty of build up, dressing, undressing, and walking around naked and semi naked.
This is just my opinion, but I think the guy does a great job, even though he may not win any humanitarian, or upstanding church goer of the month awards...or maybe he might, we don't know who he is, as his face is blurred out, something that is annoying and can detract from the action. Backroom Casting Couch is the same.
New video spec is 768x432 at 4000-6000 kbps and slightly older ones are 640x360 at 3000-5000 kbps, with the oldest being 576x324, but this isn't about HD pristine quality with models looking like they've been dipped in bronze, it's about one man and a camera, and at it's most high tech, one man and two cameras, with occasional help from a mate.
Old pictures sometimes look better than the new ones, because the new ones are screencaps rather than genuine photos. Old ones are genuine photos, and some of the bonus video footage was behind the scenes, where you could see these being taken. I love that sort of stuff, but sadly newer updates don't have any of that, although the main videos always have a certain behind the scenes flavour due to the nature of the content.
If you're a pic fan, this is not the strongest side of ECG. Examples of picture spec are 1400x930, 1600x1200, 1280x857, 1280x720, and 1400x788.
Some PU'ers have referred to the male lead as a douch bag, but given the abuse, both verbal and physical, some girls receive on mainstream sites, this is relatively mild by comparison, and there are no dirty tricks on sign up or cancellation, no drm, dl limits, regional discrimination, or pre checked cross selling. What you see and are led to expect is very much what you get. In fact the whole site is easy to use and is customer friendly. You can't say that about many.
The login is easy, and your membership details plus password are remembered, with an easy to see simple word to copy. Models are listed both chronologically and alphabetically and navigation is easy, with quite detailed previews of what an update is like, plus a long written summary about the shoot. You may not like the main man's tone, but you can't say he doesn't put in the effort. Photos are zippped, download speeds are fast, and files are numbered.
I found streaming facilities to be excellent even at peak times, when on other sites (VideoBox for instance) it's impossible to get a picture. A recent addition is the split screen view, where you see both the model's face and the other end at the same time, which is okay, but sometimes the two screens seem to get in the way of one another. There are a few scenes with condoms which are becoming more common.
When I recently visited the sign up page then closed the window, I received a $5 off offer if I joined now. That worked out at £17.44 for 30 days, which I accepted. When I went to cancel my subscription I received another cut price offer, which I was unable to accept as I currently don't have the time to download.
If this is the future of porn, with semi amateur girls, and semi professional shooting, done on a budget, I would be happy with that. I don't think it is, but what he is doing, with the niche, style of shooting, reality behind the scenes feel, lighting, camerawork, number of updates, price, and personalisation of site, works for him, and for me too as a customer. This is very close to how I would want to see reality porn with sexy looking amateur girls, I don't believe for one moment that is easy to do. Even the pros get it wrong more often than not, so hats off to ECG.
Excellent informative review. Some members hate the guy on this site. I love this sort of niche, but don't think I will sign up because of the negatives. Licking the guy's ass - turn off for me too.
^^ Yep I'm with what graymane says. I'm not here much now, but the least I can do is drop by to congratulaute you on yet another very high quality informative review.
This is one that I almost went with over a year ago, but what put me off is the low quality resolutions, and if you get used to that high spec material, you do notice the difference.
I agree with the comments which are more thorough than most reviews. It is a vid rather than pic site, but the material is very professional. The price of my principals is $5 or £5, as I took up another offer from this network, this time for Devils Film. They have regional discrimination as well as pre checked cross selling but I took them up on their offer to steal material at a steal price.
I cancelled the next day because I know how tricky they can be. I received no confirmation either when I cancelled or when I followed up with two email queries. I had to go to live support who weren't there the first couple of times but when I finally got through they said I hadn't received a confirmation because I hadn't cancelled.
If anyone joins this site I would suggest you go straight to live support if you don't receive a cancellation confirmation email, because this is the second time I have joined a site for the $5 offer, cancelled and never received confirmation. Live support on both occasions sent me a notification within minutes.
This is listed as having pre checked cross sells on the TBP review, which appears to be incorrect. I do not see a ticked box on the sign up page, where they even state "No hidden charges." If it doesn't have cross sells, TBP should amend the listing.
I had been thinking about maybe joining, but from reading your review, there doesn't appear to be too much quality here, even though there seems to be quantity. I'm not crazy about the quality of vids from RealSpankings either. In fact fetish material in general seems to be a little behind the rest in picture quality.
Thanks elephant, we always say what we think here, but I'm not sure how much we at PU are out of step with porn consumers and the industry. All we can do is try to change things a little.
Thanks for your comments. Yes is the answer to the question, but only a little. When they get it right it looks great, but the problem is those closeups, when the cameraman looks as though he's gone to sleep, leaving the camera resting about four inches from the groin.
The previews do look great, and are there to attract customers, which means they know what appeals. So if they make the previews look great, and know what appeals, why can't they do 20-30 minute clips with the same look and standard of the previews? After all, the previews are merely a small sample of the videos and photos. Surely it's the same cost to video and photo the whole girl as it is to video and photo one piece of the girl?....or maybe it isn't.
It would be nice if our comments helped to change things. It's unlikely but we can try.
Was a member approx. 3 months prior to this review.
Pros:
There are no DRM, download limits, regional discrimination, pre checked cross sells, or dirty tricks.
Beautiful girls.
Some very orginal and erotic poses.
Good lighting and overall sense of professionalism.
Good quality videos.
Zipped photos.
Easy log in.
Still updating.
Cons:
Same style and angles every time resulting in a mass produced look.
The picture sets contain too many of the same pose and have little continuity.
Very little ethnic, age, or shape diversity. Models are mainly thin, white, and young.
Few picture or download options. Top quality video is now mp4, not wmv. You have to drop lower in quality to obtain wmv.
Navigation not the best.
No teasing or build up in the pics or videos.
Occasionally annoying male leads.
Although you get some bonus sites, it is a relatively small network.
Bottom Line:
Video Downloads - Best Quality 1280x720 at 4000kbps (4838), High Quality 800x452 at 2500 kbps, Normal Quality 580x328 at 1000 kbps. Recently, for some reason, they changed their "Best Quality" downloads from wmv to mp4. The 4000 kbps wmv is now unavailable, and has been changed to 4500 kbps mp4, so if you want wmv, you have to download a lower quality video.
Pics, and sometimes videos, are ridiculously frustrating because although they choose some original and erotic angles to shoot from, they continually miss out the lower legs and feet, and concentrate far too much on the groin, ass, and upper thigh, turning the models into amputees. I have seen criticism elsewhere on PU, concerning the gynaecological focus of their shoots. A great shame because the models are fantastic, and they think up some original angles to shoot from, then they undermine this eroticism by turning the models into amputees 80 per cent of the time. It is particularly annoying in the pics, where it would appear, feet do not exist.
Although they have great and original angles and ways of shooting models, that mould is set, and they rarely stray from doing exactly the same thing on each shoot, making everything look mass produced.
The pics are adequate but a lot of the time there is little continuity or thought put into the sets. You see a girl starting with clothes, but you don't see much of the strip or lead up to sex. It is like watching six frames from a video, forward winding for four minutes, then watching another six frames, then forward winding, and so on. There are four to eight almost identical pictures of a model in one pose, then four to eight in another pose, with little idea of continuity or progression in the shoot.
Sometimes the male leads can be very irritating. Whether this is by direction or not I don't know. Some continually slap the asses of the models, grunt, groan, and paw their female co workers like they were terrorists abusing their hostages. That can be unerotic for some of us.
Okay, let's be honest, let's come out of the closet. Female genitalia just by itself isn't all that attractive, neither is chopped liver, or any type of roadkill. It is what leads up to that genitalia that is attractive. The whole package, the eyes, the face, the breasts, the legs, the everything. It's the genitalia in context, along with the whole package. I so wish some of these sites would realise that. We've got past the shock of penetration about 40 years ago in Europe, 30 years ago in America, amd 10 years ago in Britain. So we don't need closeups of two thrusting groins and nothing else. We know they're having sex, we get to see it all the time.
I know sites have to keep production costs as cheap as possible, but surely it's possible to see two whole people having sex, and give us some idea of the beauty of the whole girl. It's done professionally, but with little love for the subject. This is true of 99% of porn, both today and in the past so I can't complain too much.
Their visitors preview site probably gives a better preview of what's on offer than the members' home page as there you get a better idea of how the girls look, and what the sets are like.
It may just me being stupid again but once I got into browsing a picture set, I couldn't get back to home again without going through my favourites option.
There is a model search option from the home page (in very small print), but when you access the model using this, the video and picture download options are dead links. You therefore have to look at the date, then go back to the home pages and work out where the model is on the chronologically listed update pages in order to download pics and videos.
It seems there is a six simultaneous downloads limit.
Logging in is easy, and you can return to the site without re entering your password.
The lighting, production and photography are mainly very good. If you go back to the first few girls recorded in 2009 you can see how much this has improved. The early ones look very different, with a different style, angles, and lighting.
You would think by the title of "First Anal Quest" its close relative "Double View Casting," and the comments "real teenagers craving to get their cherries popped," and "no fake scenes no bullshit," these are mostly first timers, but not a bit of it. Some of these girls (for example Britney, Stonell, and Kristina) have been around for a long long time, and have appeared on many other sites featuring Eastern European Girls. Some of these girls have pussies more pounded than when a juggernaut lorry crashed into the local Pets At Home.
All in all it is worth a visit, but very few seasoned downloaders will find any need to stay more than a month, or maybe two.
Good review elephant. I thought this was one of the best sites on the TMW network. I was a little disappointed with the network overall, but it looks to me like it has improved since I was last a member.
Another excellent review. Ik did one on Teenamite, and these two networks do look okay. No dirty tricks I presume. I will not tolerate regional discrimination or pre checked cross sales. I may even stop downloading for free and join a deserving network.
Ah yes - you're right it is quite late. It's half past midnight. But as a Baseball and American Football fan I am sometimes up to 5am! I've always been a late person. I'm now off to watch some poker for a few hours.
Sounds a little dodgy. I've had that sort of thing happen a few times in the past on a few sites. Sometimes it is the browser or anti spyware or anti virus kicking in - for instance in the past AVG warned of viruses for a time, when I tried to login to Pirate Bay. That appeared to be AVG acting as a censor, but I never know how seriously to take these sort of warnings. I'm always wary of sites offering special offers from live chat. I suppose I am cautious and don't blame you giving that particular site a miss.
One more thing. Sites like this, run by these sort of people, undermine the efforts of the really decent sites like Karup's, who bring quality porn at a reasonable price, without any tricks or cons.
I think you have been over generous with your mark as this site is clearly run by conmen. The mark should be a "0" as this is what the site and the people who run it deserve. I really don't think TBP should even advertise this site, unless they have a special "red warning listing" for those sites who deliberately try to deceive and rip people off. Thanks for the warnings though. It's scumbags who run sites like this that really do give porn a bad name.
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