Good point about the pass code, but in these cases there is nothing to say you have signed up for anything. This makes it even more obvious they are trying to trick you. When you first sign up for a site you have to fill in a form and credit card details. You have a chance to review your purchase but the whole point of tricking people is to give them no chance to see that they are buying anything. Obvious trickery. There are no excuses for it. There are degrees of trickery, but at the end of the day it's all trickery, all disgusting, and all dishonest. We have to stop supporting these sort of people.
Okay guys that's fair enough. As long as it's not the "Specials, just take a look at this site," then as soon as you press the link you're signed up, trick. Some are worse than others. I'm sick of not knowing where you are, or if you're going to be ripped off, whenever you give a site your credit card details.
Good review as usual but you highlighted their trickery "Bangbros page and one of these is sort of made to trick members into believing they have access to certain sites."
It's just a matter of opinion but I don't think any site that tries to trick its customers deserves a 90. I had this problem recently and shelved a review because I didn't want to give these sort of con artists any publicity. We have differing opinions on this but I can understand why you did the review.
I know you are reviewing this on the basis of how good their material is, and having the knowledge of an older porn viewer you are able to dodge the bullets. I think theese are the sort of people we should be ripping off with free downloads and saving our money to subscribe to honest sites. We have a limited amount to spend, and should be spending it to support the good guys. Any money spent on these rip off artists is money taken away from the honest ones, who we should be helping to survive.
I am lucky and have more potential sites to join because I have quite wide taste and so can still search around for material, but am very wary of joining any site nowadays. Evil Angel are offering a real cheapo but I am so wary of giving my credit card details I haven't joined even for a fiver.
It's simple. If a site tries to rip you off, don't subscribe. I will not subscribe to a site that has regional discrimination. Boycotting this sort of thing is the only thing that will make them rethink. I hate fake breasts and tattos anyway so there's no way I would join this site, but everyone has their own taste. There are plenty of sites I would like to join but wont because of regional discrimination. If someone sticks a middle finger up to me I tell them to f**k off. That's how I feel about regional discrimination.
No I agree with you. I far prefer those sites which have reputable billing agents. That doesn't mean those who do their own billing are bad, it's just there will be a few bad apples who will try to rip you off, and you jsut never know which ones that will be - until too late.
As an anal retentive Englishman I am thoroughly ashamed to have left the "r" out of covert. My old English master would be shouting at me. So I may have to beat him up again. Just so I don't waste this post entirely here are some more misspelled words.
MISSPELLED
ACCOMMODATE
EMBARRASS
HARASS
OCCURRENCE
ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTAREANISM (One of my old English master's favourites)
Some people claim ATHEIST is too, but I don't believe that.
I'd keep well away if I were you. Unless you want to get the CIA to try and cancel for you. Even they may give up, and consider a covet undercover operation to overthrow the Chinese government an easier proposition.
Agreed Capn. I am just as annoyed about regional pricing, and avoid any websites that use it, just as I do with pre checked cross stealing. My idea of some sort of badge of good trading, similar to other trades, didn't get any replies (apart from messmer), but it would be nice to see those who are customer oriented, be acknowledged in some sort of formal way, and therefore be rewarded.
I know I always seem to be griping and complaining, but it would be nice to find a way to be positive and support those who deserve it, and there are quite a few of those.
Yes, agreed GPL, this is what the forum is for. Hopefully it highlights the good ones and exposes the bad ones, and at the same earning itelf some money.
Cheers mate! I am being a bit evangelical about this, but these sort of practices do piss me off. This is the worst sort of site. Deiberately deceivng free sign up, with a paid for short trial followed by a massive subscription. This is the sort of thing that could put paid for legal porn out of business, or at least in trouble. They need to be weeded out before they hurt everyone.
I'm not sure whether I should give these vermin publicity or not, however here is a warning not to give them your credit card details.
All you have to do is give your credit details for FREE ACCESS. Oh wow what generosity. Just press for free membership. Over on the right hand site of the sign up page are the terms.
"You are joining boatgirlsgonewild at a cost of $0.00 for 2 days. To avoid being charged, simply cancel your membership prior to the end of the trial period. For your convenience, this membership will renew at a cost of $39.28 per month until cancelled. You may cancel at any time"
Below that is a pre checked cross sale. It is noted as hidden on TBP "located under the submit button of the join page (when inputting your credit card info)." It's actually to the right.
"* Sign me up for a one dollar and twenty five cents, one day trial to breastsxxx.com*
* For your convenience all trial memberships to breastsxxx will automatically renew at fifty four dollars and ninety seven cents per month unless cancelled."
So your free membership could cost you a shitload of money. I know it's hard times, but I don't think TBP/PU should be linking to these sort of people.
Great thorough review RB. I like the idea of amateur girls rather than glossy professional, but closeups leaves me cold, and it sounds like the site has more than its share of faults.
Thank you, I appreciate your comment, especially as I did list a number of negatives. On the other hand I do think there are a number of positives and consider the site is good value at the price available through TBP. I revised the review a number of times to try to get it as accurate as possible. I would add one further positive - No sign up pre checked cross sales, or nasty tricks. In the current climate that is one thing a lot of us appreciate.
I agree with everything you have said. I think your reviews and those of Denner are very accurate. I would not have subscribed if the FirstSexVideo site had not been added to BrainPass. A lot of PU members have been saying how everything looks the same. For me, this is one site that is different and I knew I would like, simply because I enjoy casting and amateur videos. I have seen many of the videos featured on FirstSexVideo 3 or 4 years ago, because they were broadcast on satellite. But it's the sort of thing you either love or hate. If you're not into that sort of thing, which a lot of members aren't as they like the fantasy thing, they are definitely not going to rate it.
I don't review many sites, but I had this one in the pipeline as not many seem to have reviewed it. It's my last review because I feel I should not be contributing to a site that has censorship. I know PU has some good points, and the members are great. It's just on principal I feel uneasy about contributing to a site that has censorship, and talk about free stuff is forbidden and clamped down on. I know there are reasons for this. There's no right or wrong. Just a personal thing. I shall always be checking in here and even making an occasional post if I really think a point needs to be made, but I shall go back to being an observer.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
Great value for money, a lot of content for a low price with a $10 discount for TBP users, resulting in a $19.95 a month sign up fee.
A lot of exclusive content.
No DRM.
No download limits.
No regional discrimination, meaning those of us in Europe are treated equally and do not get ripped off.
Good download speed.
Newer videos are of good quality and can be downloaded whole, rather than small segments. But you can choose between either whole or segments.
A variety of download speeds and therefore quality.
A good variety of vanilla porn sites.
There are pics which can be zip downloaded, although they are not of great quality.
There are quite a few daily updates overall. It's just some sites are basically dead, with no new updates at all.
Once you sign in you do not have to resign in to each separate site, although there is a series of 5 letters you have to fill in every time you visit the site.
Quite good camerawork in that there aren't too many gynaecological close ups.
Cons:
Some really large and irritating watermarks.
The only real amateur site "BrunoB Reloaded" uses condoms for every scene.
Some of the sites are very small.
Some of the sites have little or no updates, nor state when the last update was.
Some of the videos do not have all the scenes available so are not really complete videos.
Some of the older videos do not have complete scene downloads, so they have to be downloaded in 5 minute segments.
Some of the sites are just single model sites.
Some of the sites are just multi sites of the same porn star. For instance Lex Steel.
Some of the material is very samey and there is nothing particularly high class and outstanding.
The photos are low quality, and just vid caps but can be downloaded in zip form. Some of them are very blurred and of low quality. What's more I found some did not unzip totally so I had to download manually. I really do not think the site would appeal to photo fans.
A few too many tattoos and fake breasts.
Bottom Line:
IMO, this isn't really a network, more a series of videos, of which there are plenty. According to BrainPass the figure is 8420 videos and 912 photo sets. I haven't counted them personally but have no reason to dispute their figures.
There is a lot to see and download here, but some of the sites can't even be called sites.
For instance, at the count I made today (my last day of membership - 28 May 2009) "Silverstone Video" only has 107 videos,"The Lucky Man" only has 15, and "Doghouse Digital" only has 41. If that constitutes a "site," then I'm a gay Dutchman, and Drooler is my bitch. It's a bit like going to one of those DVD sites, and instead of referring to them as DVD's or videos, they call them sites instead.
There are WMV streaming segments at 700 kb/sec. I tried these and found them to be reasonable quality.
There are low quality WMV videos at 56 or 128 kb/sec, and MPG videos of 350 kb/sec for iphone and ipod. I have not tried these.
High quality WMV downloads are at dimensions of 720x480 and a bit rate of between 2000 and even up to 5000 kb/sec.
High quality MPG downloads are between 600 and 1000 kb/sec, depending on the site.
Pic dimensions are 720x480.
Although there is a lot of content, the standard and look is very much of a muchness. There is no real high class or outstanding content.
There is no real fetish material, but I don't expect it on this sort of site, so I don't put that down as a "con."
For me the outstanding site is "FirstSexVideo." This may not appeal to some, because the review I read by mbaya is totally accurate. There is a lot of talk leading up to the sex scene, which is not particularly high quality given today's standards. But for me it's a really unusual site in that these are genuine first time models being interviewed, and having sex on camera for the first time.
"The Lucky Man" only has 15 videos but they are at least in the "group sex" category. The one drawback is that most of the girls really do look like veteran porn performers.
With most sites it's usually 3 to 5 minutes of build up, then it's clothes off followed by, as expected, oral, then straight sex, and sometimes anal. OutdoorBackdoor obviously specialises more in anal. They have the cum in mouth type sites too. The main thing is, apart from FirstSexVideo, most of the material is what you would expect. Apart from a few videos where the girls start off totally naked, you mostly have the usual 3 to 5 minutes for a build up. It's then down to action. The girls are generally reasonable looking, not necessarily first division, but maybe second.
Even though I have listed a number of negatives, I really quite liked this site overall. The pros and cons are very similar to a number of other networks. Nothing outstanding but nothing really negative. A lot of reasonable and enjoyable porn, which is quite good fun and gives you hours of viewing, and tons to choose from at a bargain basement pric
Good comprehensive review Wittyguy. Place looks good apart from the tats, trickery and fake breasts. I've never been a member but might be tempted if they did away with the cross sales.
I suppose it's all a matter of taste, but I am stunned by the number of high 90's scores I see given to Brazzers, Reality Kings, and Bangbros, so this well below the norm sort of score is a welcome balance.
Personally I don't agree with 50, or the reason given, as they don't claim to be a teen site (Try 21 Sextury or Teen Mega World), but given some of the stuff that has been written by PU members about the negatives of these companies over the years, I don't mind seeing them getting a 50.
Virtually every company claims to be the "best" or "world's best." Each and every one of them, except for one, is lying. That's porn.
I hope you stick around and let us know what you think of the teen sites.
It was another good review Frosty. One of those cases where the review is better than the network. I'm never subscribing to any site that only scores 30.
The site has some serious supporters on here. I'm not one of them, for all the reasons stated. My taste also does not stretch to enjoying tons of fake breasts, tattoos, and 30 or 40 somethings with a ton of make up trying to look 20. Even if the girls were to my taste, I would not touch the place given what some some say about customer service.
I guess I know the site is not to my taste. I could join, give the place a 60 and so could others. I am not going to join just to give the place a low mark. I think this is the reason for the high average. The high marks come from those who know they are going to love the place. If you look at Trashman's justification for such a high mark when I questioned the 98 he gave, he said that he does not "downgrade on the type of content." If you look at his review it will give you a very good idea about the site, and the reasoning behind his score. At least he gave his reasons for such a high mark. I know enough about the site to not want to join, even if it were 5 dollars a month.
Sounds like an awful experience. I am not sure if sites make these things complicated by design, so that customers have difficulty finding out how to cancel. My strong suspicion is yes. I am sorry to hear your first experience has been so awful. Some sites are less complicated than this. But this is the drawback of temporary or trial subscriptions. Sometimes it's better to just get a month's subscription. Incidentally TBP does a number of discount subscriptions. You can get a month's subscription to a site for as little as $9.95. They discount $10 with quite a few sites. So for $10-15 you can get a month's subscription. (I am sounding like a shill for TBP!)
I have never had a trial with any site. I think one of the reasons is I have always feared running in to the same difficulties you have had. All you can do is check with your credit card company and make sure you have not been charged, or to contact them now, to tell them you have not authorised further charges. Some people do not like to do this. That's another reason sites get away with overcharging and signing people up for sites they did not originally mean to sign up for.
No wonder free porn and piracy is rife. This poor guy finally signed up to try some genuine site, and then gets all these problems.
One of the problems with trials is, they are so quick, you have very little time to cancel, and get confirmation.
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