I'm on a very tight budget myself, or I would be if I had more financial self-discipline.
I'm aware that because of the internet, the prices for wonderful porn are far cheaper than what the prices were 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.
But still, having a limited amount of cash to pay for porn, as is true for most people, the cost for each site has to be considered. Along with, the quality of the site: site content, site ease of use, and other factors you consider when deciding whether to join a site or not.
Basically, it comes down to: is the site membership worth the cost?
So I think that it makes sense to write that $30/month for FTV is expensive, compared to other sites that are $20/month, that offer a large amount of professional photo sets of lovely young models.
I'm not saying that FTV is a waste of money.
FTV is an excellent site.
I am saying that I would rather spend less money for access to other excellent sites: photo sites like Metart, MPL studios, Femjoy.
Or video/photo sites like X-art. Or Teen Mega World (not a photo site, but massive amount of hardcore teen videos with a huge amount of attractive models).
Thanks for the confirmation.
Sometimes, cookies or other problems show a faulty price, so I can never be sure if the price has changed, or if there is a computer error, or some other problem.
One problem with joining FTV.
The PU discount for FTV has disappeared.
Monthly price is now $29.95.
There are a lot of photo sites (I realize FTV also has videos) that are $20/month.
But the extra $9 makes FTV expensive.
PU score is 65, but TBP score is 94.
As you know, FTV only has 2 active reviews.
One review score was 50.
That's why the PU score is so low.
It just goes to show you can't depend on PU scores alone, to help you pick your sites.
You also have to read the reviews, and see what sites might be attractive for you, in spite of their scores.
By the way, I agree that FTV is an excellent site.
I'VE CHECKED THE SITE A FEW TIMES IN THE LAST WEEK.
EACH TIME THE SITE DID NOT LOAD IN MY BROWSER.
I'M GUESSING THE SITE (AND THE COMPANION NETWORK, 8 TEENIES PASS), IS DEAD. 8TEENIES.COM WAS AN ARCHIVE SITE. VERY FEW MODELS, BUT CUTE MODELS, HAD A FEW VIDEOS, BUT WAS MAINLY A PHOTO SITE. THE PHOTOS WERE IN THE STYLE OF MY PRECIOUS VIRGINS OR TEEN STAR MAGAZINE, VERY SOFTCORE.
(EXCUSE THE CAPITAL LETTERS. I AM NOT SHOUTING. IT'S EASIER FOR MY EYES TO READ CAPITAL LETTERS, INSTEAD OF LOWERCASE LETTERS.)
Ditto tangub's input.
But also, if I had the site's content before, but I lost it, and want to replace that content.
I've lost a lot of past content from sloppy housekeeping, not making backup files of my content, etc.
You can try sending an email to Zemani, and request an extension of your membership, because of the problems you had with your membership.
I bought a 12-month subscription to Muse.org in 2009.
The main photographer for the site was Richard Murrian, who has contributed to Metart.
There were almost no updates during the time I was a member (for one year).
And many times, when I tried to log in to the site, I could not get in.
Because of the lack of updates, and other problems at the site, the site eventually said they would give 12-month members a 6-month extension of their membership.
I mailed customer support asking for the extension. Never got a reply to any of my emails. Never got an extension.
So sites can, for one reason or another, give you very poor service for your money.
I've read reports by some PU members that mention distortions in photos, and now I better understand what they were talking about. Because I always thought the photo quality was perfectly acceptable.
Using a smaller monitor, and almost never zooming in for fine details, explains the difference.
I agree that MetArt has tons of content and thousands of lovely models.
Maybe there is too much content, and the average viewer starts to get bored. A psychology thing.
Very few of the videos at MetArt are worth watching or saving.
That's my opinion, in spite of how lovely the models can be. The vidoes are boring, not erotic.
As long as I am confident a site will give me good value, I'm willing to support that site with a long-term subscription.
I've had 12-month memberships to MetArt, XArt, TeenMegaWorld, maybe a few others.
I'm not a member of fedorovhd, but the photo set dated 2015-06-26, model Julia, titled "Orchid", with 139 images, appears to be the same set that was posted on 2010-02-26. That 2010 set model was Julia, also titled "Orchid", also with 139 images. Both sets have the same cover.
The 2010-02-26 set is no longer listed at fedorovhd as a separate set.
I was recently a member of the Diesel network.
I joined 18 Only Girls, and since I remained a member, I gained access to the other two sites over time.
But my experience was different from yours.
It took at least 60 days, maybe more, before I gained access to the other sites. And when I did gain access, it was to both of the other sites at once.
Wow Girls and Wow Porn are treated as separate sites.
If you join one, you do not have access to the other site.
You have to pay separately to join the other site.
However, if you join 19 Only Girls, or Wow Porn, or Wow Girls, and you stay a member for a certain amount of time (I'm not sure of the details), your membership will then include access to all three sites.
Or if you join any one site, and pay an upgrade fee (which is very expensive), you will have access to all three sites.
Or there might be an option to join all three sites at once.
If you haven't been a member of any of these sites, the best value is joining 18 Only Girls, because it has the most content.
As well as the most updates of all three sites.
The content of all three sites is similar. And they use the same models for most of their content.
Having three sites is basically a marketing strategy, to maximize profits.
You would need to be an expert to determine, from watching a video, which site it came from. Because based on content, the same video could be placed in any of the three sites.
Most of the old Diesel sites were merged into 18 Only Girls.
Some of the old material from different sites was dropped (no longer available).
But you wouldn't notice that unless you were following those sites closely.
As a newbie, you can now join 18 Only Girls, which contains most of the material from the older sites, as well as updates.
Wow Girls and Wow Porn are still treated as separate sites, from the old Diesel sites.
Young Legal Porn no longer exists as a separate site. Most of its material is now found in 18 Only Girls.
If you are seeking an erotic site where the models make an art of removing their clothing, you are better off looking elsewhere. Some photo sets or videos might start off with the girl wearing some article of clothing. But the majority of the photos feature fully nude models.
Metart is supposed to be Most Erotic Teens, and it's mainly stayed true to that approach. There is very little stripping. It's mostly an appreciation of the bodies of young females. Most of the models are attractive to lovely. The photographers are professional, among the best in the business.
A few members of PU have expressed a wish for an erotic strip tease site. But that niche seems lost in today's market.
When I click on the PU link to TeamSkeet, the join page shows:
$4.99/month for 12 month membership
$9.87/month for 1 month membership
But you have to uncheck the pre-checked offer to join VideoZ, wich is billed at $39.97/month after 2-day trial for $1.00 ends.
I also get the same prices when I click the TBP link to TeamSkeet.
For a while, back in 2013, they dropped the pre-checked offer on signup. But it's now back again. Which could be very expensive if you forget to uncheck the offer and go into the very high monthly fee after 2 days for the cross-sell.
I'm not sure why you saw $18/month. Maybe you need to clear your cache. Or maybe it's something else. Computers can be a mystery.
Both signup pages links to TeamSkeet (PU and TBP) are billed thru Epoch.
There are a number of sites that follow this same procedure of showing a tiny amount of thumbnails of their content on a single page, and then direct you to the join page when you want more information about the content.
But if you like hardcore teen porn, this network has a massive amount of video content of good quality, for a very low price. They also have photos for each matching video, but it's still primarily a video site.
Read my review of the network, posted 2015-03-12, to get a better idea of what the network provides.
I don't think the preview page is meant to be misleading. In my opinion, they just aren't paying enough attention to how to market the network, to give a good, interesting preview that will attract more subscribers.
Excellent review. I basically agree with everything you wrote. Except possibly I don't find the cross-selling very annoying, compared to what many other paysites do.
Obviously, I would like to get their entire network for free, after joining any one of the network sites, but we can't have everything.
I think that Metart is the best value in the network.
I even paid for a lifetime membership to Metart. I only wish I had done that from the start, because it would have saved me the monthly and annual memberships to Metart that I have paid for. Except that I think for many years while I was a member, they didn't offer a lifetime membership.
I can be mildly disappointed when I find that some content from the site was removed. It's hard to determine if the removal was done at the request of the model, If done at the model's request, that shows a respect for the model.
On the other hand, there are so many past and future models, we should still appreciate the content that is available to us.
It seems more and more common that support staff at many businesses are worse than useless.
I bought an item through Amazon. The item was not sold from Amazon, but from one of its commercial partners.
The partner overcharged me about $7 on the item.
I complained to the partner's support staff, in an email.
The first email response I got from the partner support staff said the $7 overcharge was justified, according to their records.
I sent a second email, stating again that I was overcharged $7, and I should get a refund.
The second email from the support staff stated I was not overcharged $7.
I sent a second email, stating that I had been overcharged $7.
The third email from support staff asked me for proof that I had been overcharged.
I sent a new email, with photo copies of the original coupon I used, the original price I should have paid, and a photostat of the charge from my credit card company.
That was proof that I was being overcharged $7.
The next email from support staff said they were sorry I was having a problem, and to please explain what my problem was.
The funny things are: with every email I sent to support staff, I included, in the heading, the ticket code for my complaint.
And I explained, in each email I sent, a summary of my complaint about the overcharge.
As well as sending with each email, the add-on of all previous emails I had sent.
And from the second email on, the support staff member who sent the replying emails was from the same support staff member
Finally, I sent an email to Amazon, with the confirming photos showing I had been overcharged (copy of coupon I used, copy of bill from the partner that shows the overcharge, and copy of my credit card statement that showed the overcharge).
And Amazon gave me a credit for the overcharge.
I've been a member of Metart at different times for the last 10 years or more.
I can't say I've seen every photo set or video they have posted.
But I never came across a peeing scene.
My guess is that the person who told you about the peeing scenes was talking about Grigori Galitsin, who contributed to Metart in its early days.
Galitsin did make some videos featuring peeing, masturbation, lesbian sex, but that content was posted on his own site, not on Metart.
And the Galitsin photo sets that were posted on Metart (which were strictly softcore), were removed from Metart, after Galitsin ran into legal problems with Russia.
Met-Art posted a new video, 2015-03-22, with model Adiba, titled: Viola Bailey.
What's new is this is a solo masturbation video.
A few years ago, Met-Art was strictly soft softcore. A girl would almost never touch herself. Or if there was a two-girl gallery, the two girls might kiss on the lips, but that was usually as far as the overt sex would show.
I'm thinking that Met-Art might show a boy and girl together, in the next few years.
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