Nice review. Thanks for sharing. I have browsed through the ATK Hairy Site before. I enjoy a natural look at times. Too much hair can be a turnoff, however. Then again, everyone has their own intersts and there is something for everyone.
It is odd today that a little bush is considered something that would appeal only to a niche market. Back in the 80's, a shaved vagina was considered a fetish niche. Then the trend became popular and everyone started shaving--even the guys. Suddenly, pubic hair became evil. They even had a magazine called 'Shaved' and it featured women with total shaved pubes or a brazillian shave. Believe it or not, it would actually be filed under the category, 'bizarre fetish.
Tattoos and nipple piercings are also something that is a recent incarnation. In the past, they too would have only appeared in a fetish publication.
Well, I was evaluating the content as a stand-alone site. I have not subscribed to the other sites owned by the company. It makes sense they would have a seperate site devoted to the exotics and multi-ethnic models. To be honest and fair, however, I had to just go by what I saw at this particular site I was reviewing. As a subscriber to this site only, I think ethnic diversity was the only thing lacking for me.
Merging the exotics into the galleria site might actually draw in more long-term users who will stick around longer, IMO. Regardless, there is enough content at the Galleria site to keep someone busy for a long time.
I think a few models might be return subjects, but the majority just seemed to stick around for a while then dissapear. Most of the models are amateurs so I think they probably either move onto something else or just drop modeling altogether.
I got a response from the help desk finally. They said it is fixed but it is still not working. I cleared the cache like they said then logged back in. It worked for one click to get inside a menu. Then it went back to kicking me out the first time I tried to click on any item.
I cancelled the account. Unfortunately, I have it on a three-month subscription from a discount so have two months left I can't use at this time.
The site isn't bad for content, if you can get to it. But the menu system is quirky and they have some odd security system that does this. I have subscribed to adult sites in the past. Things like this never happened.
Well, this business makes it easy to do this. First of all, due to the sensitive nature of the material, a lot of consumers don't want anyone knowing their business. They are therefore less inclined to run to the bank to complain when they get ripped off. I believe some vendors will capitalize on this. I think that is the risk a consumer has to accept if they want to subscribe to online vendors in this arena. Eventually, you are likely to run across stuff that is not on the level.
I am going to say something here that might rub some people the wrong way. There is a pink elephant in the room that a lot of people know is there but few will admit its existence, especially the manfuactuers and producers. The Pink Elephant is this--Porn is going to involve a number of individuals who are not the most noble of characters when it comes to their approach to commerce. Some players will be tempted to stretch the limits and see how much they can get away with.
I certainly am not saying that everyone in the business is like this. But the anonymity I mentioned, the sensitive nature of things, etc is going to be a magnet for shady practices by some players. Most people in the industry I suspect will just look the other way, not wanting to rock the boat or police others.
Well, I noticed that when the upsells started last year, they began with just advertising them on the main page when you log in. The upsells then started showing up as scenes within specific site pages. If you click the scene and view it, you now have a monthly subscription to whatever site it belongs to. I was careful not to do this, but the way they it is structured, I can see a lot of people out there wondering what those extra monthly charges are on their credit card.
The thing that is scary is that there is no warning that you are about to subscribe. I intetionally signed up for the culuneros site because I wanted to add it. But when I clicked the scene link, there was no warning, no info about what was just charged, etc..It just went on as business as usual, but I could now access the site.
The monthly charge for the site was the same as the bangbros main site. So if people are not carefull or have twtichy fingers on the mouse, they are going to get popped and without warning that you just signed up for a monthly subscription.
The site planners probably said, 'Hey, not enough people are falling for the red pre-checked cross sell when they signed up. Let's mix the cross-sells in with the galleries and menus.'
Regarding actual content, I think what they are doing is just breaking off a lot of content that would normally appear at bangbros and creating new sites that you have to sign up for. For example, at culluneros, a lot of the models appear at bangbros but it looks like they saved a few scenes for this specific site. So if you are into that model, you would want to view the scene. There is nothing wrong with this strategy itself. It's the way they go about it that is dirty pool.
Well, what goes around comes around. You can't survive with that kind of business model. They will eventually self-destruct. They must really be hurting financially if they resort to this type of tactic. I would think the last thing you want to do in this business is get a bad reputation regarding trust.
Who knows what their plans are. I have no idea how the site is structured in terms of ownership. But they are headed in the wrong direction with games like this.
I also noticed that they took over their own billing. I signed up last year with CCBill but it got transferred to their internal setup. You have to call a number to cancel. Which also points to financial trouble. The reason you would want to do that is to avoid having to pay the processors like CCBill or Epoch to manage the accounts and billing. Others also complain about lack of 1080P downloads without upgrades.
Putting it all together, it sounds like a site that is in the red financially and is trying to find ways to cut corners, get more income, and get back into the green. They are doing it the wrong way, however.
Regardless, I think that the recent string of bad comments here would be fair warning to anyone who is considering dealing with this site. Obviously, it's more than me complaining. They cannot be trusted, from a survery of recent comments here.
Yes. I actually signed up on 1/12. I went through this link here. I saw the charge as 24.95. I was not aware there was a discount so didn't even look. Oh well. Worse thing scan happen in life, I guess. Nothing I can do about it.
I think for the most part everyone now is focused on quantity because that's what drives the market today. Charging a higher rate means you need to keep putting out more updates to justify it and keep customers around. But the result is that quality suffers and takes a back seat to aggressive production schedules.
And what you end up with is what a site like Brazzers is today--a gaggle of identical surgically enhanced soccer-ball breasts and large cocks, all packaged up into very repetitive and mundane content that is pushed out at breakneck speed. Boredom is the order of the day. And that is really the best way to describe this site--boring.
Anything else I would offer would be negative and wouldn't provide much I already didn't opine. I really have little positive to say other than those four items I noted.
Yes I suspect the prevalence of Free Porn has created serious market pressures.
I am not cheap and it's not having to pay more for a subscription that irks me. Eventual price increases on goods and services is a fact of life. The issue I have is with the 'sneaky' approach to going about adding such price increases. Just be up front with it. A site like Brazzers is high quality and one of the few sites that I have any interest in. I have no problem paying a higher rate. But I don't like feeling taken advantage of with tricks.
To be fair, the fine print somewhere probably did indicate the rate policy and the extra fee required for downloads. But it probably was tucked away in the very fine small-print.
But it still makes you feel like you are being toyed with. You sign up in good faith for a subscription of $29/month just like old times. Browse around a little to see something that catches your eye. Then you go to download something to watch later. Then you get this:
"Dear valued customer. Your current access does not allow downloads. Please click the Upgrade button for a list of options." At this point you realize you have to upgrade and pay another $14.99 to be able to download anything.
You mutter a couple cuss words at the screen-- &^#@ *# *&$^%#*%$#
Again, it's not about the fee. It's about the sneaky factor.
And this leads to the second pet-peeve--'pre-checked' boxes. Not just one but a couple and they are at various locations on the screen. Before you click the 'Complete Transaction' button it behooves people to review everything very carefully or you might unknowingly have also subscribed to some off-the-wall third-party sites like 'Corn-Holed Grannies' or 'Fisting Midgets'.
Thanks for the info and time to help. I appreciate it.
Actually, I have to call the number. It appears bangbros now does all their billing with the 1-800 number. When I call, they say they do not have any subscription to cancel and they know nothing about the site Cullineros. I do not have any accounts listed with the others and their support also says I do not have an account with them.
When trying to get info from the Cullineros site itself on how to cancel or get customer help, it all comes up in Spanish. They don't do that when you sign up and it is all in English when they are taking your money.
Thanks. Sorry to be alarmist but stuff like this ticks me off to no end, regardless of what the business is.
These guy just switched the service. I sign in perhaps a couple times a month. No notification in email. No warning. Just sign in one day and it says 'DDF Has Moved. You will now be redirected to pornworld' -- what you get directed to is just a very generic-looking pay per view storefront with plain-looking menu that just has thumbnails and looks like those free sites like xhamster. No notice about what it is, how to use it, or a mention that you have to pay for things you watch.
And no customer service about your old account, what happened to it, how to stop the charges etc...just a pissy reply to an inquiry-- 'we dont know anything about the site. We are a pay-per-view network and unfortunately I cannot assist you with your subscription to another website."
I sent another email earlier asking for someone to please tell me how to cancel the existing DDF subscription charge. That is my biggest concern--stopping that and making sure no more monthly charges. Will advise when and if I get a response.
The most recent images are roughly 2000 x 1328. The most recent full HD vids are in the 2gig range for MPEG format. Not sure about bit rate. Don't know enough about videos to supply this. I can say, however, the videos are fluid and not choppy when viewed in the browser. Again, I am not much into videos. But even these are higher in quality than I have seen elsewhere. They just have a pop on the screen I have not seen from other videos. It is eye-popping.
But again, for me, it's all about the detail and quality. Regardless of what the specs are, I would rather see a high-quality image at 800x600 than a large 4000x2000 image that is sub-par and poorly taken ,with bad llighting. That is what I value the most.
Hi. I understand what you mean. I don't take it as trying to pick a fight. I just provide points I think the average person would be interested in. I could add more comments but it would just be for the sake of adding more comments. I don't think it would be of much use to anyone. Really, what my review is saying is that, in my humble opinion, for those interested in photography and professional-grade production, this is about as good as you will come across in terms of quality of content, etc...
The full HD videos also are as good as I have ever seen in terms of the eye-popping quality. I really haven't seen clearer and more detailed videos from an online service--whether it is netflex or bangbros. To me, the detail and professional quality of the material is outstanding.
The user interface is as good as others. very simple and easy to use. DL speeds are very high. I never had issues with timing out or locking up. Now, whether or not people enjoy the actual content is entirely subjective. Everyone has their own interests and tastes in erotic content.
I really am not thinking about drawing attention to the site or trying to sway opinion by scoring it a 99. The thought never crossed my mind. I am just calling it like I see it personally. To me, it is a near perfect site. Others may see it entirely differently, as some other review scores testify.
Well, I base my reviews on impressions. All I have to go by when forming the impressions is past experiences with other sites. Comparatively, it is the best site I have personally come across. I am not a real high powered user so my experiences are limited. I really find it to be as good as my score indicates. That doesn't mean it really is a 99 in an objective sense. That is just how I rate it. Others will see it different perhaps. Someone might not like the content or the camerawork isn't their style etc. but it is the closest to a perfect site as I have come across so far. My views may change if I come across something else in the future and I have a new baseline to judge things. As it exists now, though, this site is at the top of my current baseline. I honestly haven't seen anything better yet.
Well, for a site owner with limited content to offer, it might be tempting to use such a strategy, thinking you could 'hook' users and they would pay to stay around so they can access the content. You could easily grab all the content at this site within a short period of time. It is not a high-volume site.
The problem is, the content is not THAT good that it will keep a lot of people around to view the remaining limited content that they couldn't get to during the period due to restrctions. It's not bad content, but not exactly a pot of gold.
Hi. Thanks. I just try to tell it like I see it. It is easy to write long-winded reviews on sites that rub you the wrong way as you are ticked off enough to vent about it.
Anyways, I wouldn't classify the entire site as junk, just the user experience and treatment. The content is actually fairly decent for this genre. I have seen better and I have seen worse. I suspect most people interested in this genre would come away with positive opinions if the site owners didn't play the games. Considering a magazine today costs somewhere around $15, paying $21 for a modest collection of BBW erotica is really not a bad deal. The owners just play games and hold back content, as mentioned in the review. It becomes obvious after a a little bit of time at the site what the owners are up to.
Tease photos can be erotic. I aggree I would be have toruble enjoying it if I thought it was real. I certainly am not accusing the company of doing it but it wouldn't be proper(or legal) and you could also get yourself in a lot of hot water.
My guess is it is likely staged. You couldn't get that many videos without getting caught--or getting your ass beat by a significant other when you get caught.
A lot of directors today skip any striptease and proceed directly to go. One moment, the model is wearing clothes and heels. The next instant you see her, she is butt naked and the guy is already laying pipe. :( That's why I prefer old-school and don't like a lot of today's high-volume churn-it and burn-it erotica. Impatient boys miss dessert.
For me, it depends on the model and atmosphere of the scene. In general, however, I usually find it most erotic when some element of clothing remains present--especially a skirt. One thing that's a pet peeve of mine is when the model has a sexy par of stilettos or heels on and not only strips off all the clothes at once, but then removes the heels. :(
Yeah, I understand that it could be frustrating for a lot of people. I like the tease elements, however. I also like it when models have some clothing that complimenets the anatomy and it stays on. I like skirts hiked up and tops folded down to the waist, etc..--those types of things do it for me. Also, for me, nothing like seeing nipples sticking through lace bras or drooping out of a corset :)
Hi. Yes. If consistent full nudty is a requirement, this site won't be for you. I would put thise site more in a softcore tease category. There are some full nudes but they are not common and when they exist, they are very conservative. For example, you won't find any images of legs spread eagle or close-in shots of genitals, etc. When it is shown, it's more like full nudity with a flash of bush. This site is R rated and would be something that would pass the censors on HBO.The most hardcore image I saw was a model holding a dildo off to the side. No blowbangs and ATM here.
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