I've been having the same download issues of no fast forward with IE, but this only happens with downloading more than one file at a time. So, one at a time only works for me.
Agree, they're a trustworthy site and I'm sure if they were going to try to pull anything bad off, they would be the first to tell it though it would probably be in a very complex, complicated way!
Going to take a stab at it based on the way I understand it.
21st Sextury has the lifetime membership feature now. This allows you to stay a member without member benefits. Meaning you can view everything the members can, like new updates, check to see if favorite models have new content, without having an active membership. You just can't download anything. I'm pretty sure on that part.
The new credits, in my thinking, are saying even if you're not an active member, but have credits left in your lifetime membership, you can download a scene. For example, if Eve Angel had a new scene and my membership expired 2 days before it came out, but I had credits, I could use them to download that scene.
I'm simply basing this one how the lifetime membership works and the mention that in the future, the credits could be used to subscribe to the network. There's a comment on ALS, believe Pink Panther made it, about the ALS On Demand sites where you don't have to be an active member of ALS to download a scene, but just pay for that one scene instead. It looks like 21st Sextury is doing something similar to that by giving the option of buying credits or earning them over time.
Thanks Monahan for taking the time to lay it all out for us. It'll take me a while to digest all that information so I can't make a meaningful comment at the moment.
I also think the price is a typo on the main page, but it did worry me a little since they had several other wording problems. It made it almost look like they were trying to be misleading, like the "20 pages of" part instead of 20 DVDs of. They have 15 DVDs per page, so if they had 20 pages of that would be 300 DVDs, not 20. Plus the wording on the 8000 DVDs, when it was only 8000 scenes, 2000 DVDs.
See what I mean? One mistake can be looked over, but they have numerous ones. I didn't let those errors change my score any, but I do wish they would fix them since all of those would be considered false advertising.
The search feature to me wasn't very useful, even without the model names on some scenes. I found a Simony Diamond scene that had her name listed in the scene, but still didn't show up in my search for her.
These are the little tweaks that they need to make, then, I think they could possibly make a run at VB.
I must admit, I did notice that (about some star listings that are blank, lacking any movies/scenes). I really didn't care much about it though. My only thought about it was that movies previously on the site were removed while their references to stars were not. I've seen it before (APornArchive(.com) on Adult Bouncer). I usually like to believe that this is related to a loss of license rather than a blatant move to upset users. While it would be nice to see them physically remove the affected stars it is important to say that if you are looking at a site's potential based on a few stars, Adult.com lets you see everything you want before you join as the tour page is an exact mirror of the members page (sans the lack of the search engine). So if something is a deal breaker (e.g. lack of a particular star, or a listing with no entries) it is something you can see before you join (as opposed to say finding this out only after you join).
See, that's the problem with having different tastes...referring to the fact that I like a certain set of stars and you like others. It lets us see different sides of the story. And on my side I didn't seem to find any problems with the girls I like while there seems to have been a problem (be it exclusion from the cast list, or the victim of a poor tag job, etc.) with yours. This is certainly a good thing as far as reviews go - more reviews with different pros/cons. I just hope the problems weren't a super deal breaker in the end.
True, screencaps are small, but they are sufficient enough (and more than a lot of sites on the site) to make a decision on whether i want to download or not. See, mind you I download movies based on their star power (i.e. i like certain girls more than others).
Actually, of all the DVD sites I think Adult.com is one of the best if not THE best. Yes I do comment in my reviews of sites like Naughty America or Brazzers that they are excellent in their search capabilities and actress tagging, but reality network sites are in a different league than DVD sites. The responsibilities pertaining actress tagging on DVD sites are much greater than on reality sites - in that at lot less work is required on reality sites so there lower probability of an incorrect name or such (mostly because DVD sites are adding numerous scenes at a time while reality network sites are doing one at a time). DVD sites, especially when it comes to the XPLOR Media Homegrown Video series, require a lot more work and responsibility, and when you get sites (like VideosZ or VideoBox) which just add massive numbers of DVD's, and whose focus is to do such, accuracy with actress tagging takes a back seat.
The difference with VideosZ/VideoBox and Adult.com seems to be the focus. The former seems to focus on adding a lot of movies while latter seems to be more focused on the actress/pornstar directory. With that said, the accuracy is excellent in getting actresses in the search on Adult.com, the problem is that there are not many results (if there are any). So I search for a girl, get excited to see a result, but get disappointed in the NUMBER of results.
So far, if I had to rank the DVD sites out of 10 based on categories:
1) the existence of tagging (VideosZ lacks actress tags on a LOT of movies)
2) correct spelling (e.g. spelling Ann Marie Rios "Ann Marie Rios" not "Anne Marie Rios", or Brodi Kennedy as "Brodi Kennedy" not "Broadi Kennedy", etc.) - this category also includes the act of not having two listings for one girl because of misspellings or lack of last name
3) scene tagging (not only putting names associated with the DVD, but also with each scene, and getting them correct)
Mind you with Adult.com i have not YET found anything to decrease the 10 rating in the three category
#1) Adult.com (10/10/10)
#2) MovieRoom (10/10/10 (I give Adult.com the edge because of the more completeness of headshots. If you are going to put headshots try to be as thorough as possible)
#3) Pornstar.com (8/10/10) (they always seem to forget a name here and there)
#4) VideoBox (10/8/8)
#5) DVDBox (9/9/8)
#6) Ten.com (9/7/7)
#7) PlatinumClub (9/5/8) (there are way too many duplicate listings for girls because of misspellings)
#8) VideosZ (8/7/6) (their old content is very bad and makes up too much of the site)
#9) MovieBox (8/5/7) (way too many tags lack last names and are mashed up into the generic first name)
#10) AdultMovieClub (7/7/6)
#11) Vidz (5/7/5) (they are pretty bad)
#12) Vixeo (4/7/4) (they are very bad. The funny thing is that AdultBouncer leases their content and they do a better job of tagging it)
I skipped all studio sites (Diabolic, Devils Film) because they can obviously excel in this field because they OWN the films.
You initially sign up for a free account with no strings attached (actually I can't recall if you are required to buy a small VOD package at initial signup, but I really doubt it), and then I personally pretty much always go for the pay per minute option.
That means prepaid packages of a certain amount of minutes you can freely use to watch (stream) whatever scene or full DVD on the site (barring those I mentioned that are lacking pay per minute options, but they are fortunately still very much in a tiny minority) - whether you use all your minutes in one "session" (the smallest package is 15 minutes for $3.95) or spread them out over weeks or months (like you probably will with eg. the large 1000 minutes package for $84.95).
Other options are those downloads I talked about. They are DRM protected and will expire after the chosen "rental" period (7 or 30 days), and there's additionally an "own it" option now as well I haven't tried.
In that case you almost end up paying as much as you would have for the original physical DVD though.
In terms of content differences between AEBN and eg. VideoBox. Well, they share some, possibly even a lot of content, but VideoBox "only" has a little over 5,000 videos while AEBN has a whopping 55,000+ if I recall correctly.
Which is also why I consider this the best site when I'm looking for something very specific (released on DVD), as the chances of finding it at AEBN is much larger than anywhere else.
So basically I use AEBN as a supplement to my VideoBox membership.
I CAN'T FIND A TOS (TERMS OF SERVICE PAGE) FOR THE DIESEL SITES.
SO UNLESS I EMAIL SUPPORT, I'M JUST GUESSING WHAT THE TERMS ARE.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT YOU GET UNLIMITED STREAMING WITH THE STREAMING SERVICE.
AND THAT MEMBERSHIPS WITH DOWNLOADING PRIVILEGES ARE UNLIMITED DOWNLOADING.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IN THE PAST, ANY PU MEMBERS EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT ANY DOWNLOADING LIMITS.
AND WHILE I DON'T DOWNLOAD HEAVILY MYSELF ANY MORE, I NEVER HIT ANY DOWNLOAD LIMITS WITH ANY OF MY MEMBERSHIPS. AND I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE DIESEL SITES ABOUT 7 TIMES IN THE LAST 7 YEARS.
TO BE 100% CERTAIN, YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL TO DIESEL ACCESS SUPPORT.
THEY SHOULD RESPOND.
It really is a shame they stopped producing new content for their sites and the reason behind that i think is the director (Raul Christian) left to work for sexandcash who produce the asstitans and clara-g sites.
As far as the price goes, network access would indeed be nice. I suppose as more and more fans notice the lack of updates their subscriptions rates will start suffering and at some point they just might have to do that in order to get more business.
Personally i don't have a problem paying 30$ for each of their sites but i can understand others might feel different. A bigger problem for me are the lower quality movies (512x*384 1500kbps) they offer, they pale in comparison to the ones they offer in HD.
DDF indeed have an outstanding deal going since they started offering network access. 21sextury is another company having done the switch.
All 3 companies use many of the same models so let's hope DEV8/perfectgonzo do the same.
Wow! That's a real cool site. Thanks for sharing the information. I've never seen anything like this but will surely spend some time later to explore it.
Hey Monahan, thanks for the link, I have never seen that before, but it would come in useful when considering their sites. I've been on 3 of them now, and prefer Give me Pink. Mainly because it has more of my favorite models on it. My review of pure POV also a Dev8 site, I mention a possible network with the hope their webmaster will see it and consider it.
Sorry, but I'm not a member of either of the ALS sites right now. :-(
As I remember this was a pretty limited time offer, and I don't think I could get it once I had cancelled my ALSScan membership even with time left on my subscription. Try asking more current members if they know of this discount or anything similar.
They're continuing to upgrade older content. Their new vids have a download option of 1920 X 1080 HD WM. There's nothing that gets worse at this site, in my opinion. It continues to be my favorite site. You can learn a lot about what's there by using their tour, which is pretty detailed & extensive.
If you like oral, facials and beautiful women, nearly all of them are top level in looks, you will love this site. I'm surprised it hasn't had more coverage here!
Im another victim of this rogue website. I read quite a few reviews on APDNudes and did deter me from signing up because there was no download feature.
Since I read that Downloads are now available I jumped in. I did read the Terms, and saw that Downloads are a "complimentary service" to the membership.
However I could not find anywhere on the Terms what they mean by "Agressive" or "Abusive" downloading, so I was treading cautiously. (Paying members should not have to feel like this)
Anyways... 2 days into my membership I find that the Downloads feature has been removed. I Emailed support about this, but was only prompted by rubbish remarks "We have to safeguard our members from pirates" blah blah.
What I downloaded over 2 days was absolutely nothing when you think about it. The average zip file size is 400mb, which easily mounts up to GB's worth of traffic. BTW, I only downloaded 7 sets (3.4gb) worth to get my Downloads feature removed.
I found it very annoying that they responded with "You can still enjoy your membership by viewing images"
How the hell can you enjoy a premium membership when you are subject to paranoia. Opening an image on their website is in a popup window which isnt even resizeable. You cant even download the image to your HD.
I have asked them to refund me as their Terms are very misleading. If there was any notice that you will be cut of after X amount of traffic because they think you are downloading too much, I would never ever have signed up.
I hope SteveB reads this and gives us ripped off users an explanation because my Emails are being ignored.
I'm a current member. There are zip files for photos and the videos can be downloaded. However, their 'Terms of Service" are so arbitrary and capricious you never know when you're in violation and they cut off your download privileges at the drop of a hat. I went out of town to visit some friends and logged into the site on their network. Returned home to find I couldn't download. Wrote them an email and they informed me that logging into a network other than the one I registered on is a violation. NOWHERE is this written in the TOS. After I complained they restored my download privileges. Over the next two days I downloaded a total of 10 videos and 1 low res zip file. Went out to work in the yard and when I came back in I logged in again to find my download links removed. No response so far to my email. They have some nice content but there are too many other quality sites to put up with this crap. I strongly recommend staying away from this site unless you like getting jerked around and ripped off.
Sounds a wee bit weird. Have you tried it again since you had the problem? I went through some of the tour as well and received the $25 price as well. Might want to try clearing your cookies and such, this cleared things up with the VideoBox confusion recently.
I didn't have that problem. I did the full tour, mainly because I was wanting to see if they had added the full zips yet (this was last week), and then clicked "Join Now" and received the discount. I actually had planned on posting a re-review of the site in the next few days that will be adding +4 to my original score.
Advent was true to her word and made some accommodation for me to return as a member and some bonus stuff. Very, very fair.
That being said, I let my membership lapse this summer as ATK was no longer doing to for me.
Too many repetitive set of the same model. There have been fewer and fewer girl-next-door types. Tobe Garret, a long time photographer seems to have quit the biz. The cute new gals were becoming fewer, the porn-star wanna be's were becoming frequent and the style of the site has changed. The adult boy-girl section was a complete turn off for me, but that is where they have been putting their resources and money.
I may return one day to see if things have gotten better, but I kind've doubt they would make the changes needed in the last couple of months.
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