Pat - good news or bad news, thanks for posting this. Anyone reading this should follow pat's advice and join through I Worship Anal. Jimmy Hooligan promises some improvements, but for now the DPD site doesn't have any older stuff up. It is a very small site and I suspect that he'll update with some of the older stuff. Pat is correct that the IWA site has everything, and for $5 cheaper.
I follow a ritual before joining most sites. I read any TBP review and then all the reviews and comments here at PU. I'm thinking that I need to email you first too!
1- I don't care whether its WMV or MP4. My only preference is quality by way of the bitrate they offer it in. 1000 bitrates are garbage and comparable to a tube site. I still don't think you get that they were already offering MP4 since the dawn of time. They didn't add any new format.
2- I'm not sure what you are trying to tell me here. Are you suggesting that VB spent over a decade classifying videos into a "High" "Medium" and "Low" quality range when it was completely unnecessary and Medium was indiscernible from High and nobody can tell the difference? There is no difference between a video in 3000+ bitrate compared to 1000 bitrate? This is something I'm not even going to try and convince you otherwise. If you think there is no difference, I'm not going to go any further.
3-Jules Jordan and Evil Angel specifically offer their directors exclusive rights over their own movies. They don't belong to the studio, rather the director. I've read this about both studios already. This is why you will find some directors on VB and not others. IE: you'll never find a Rocco video on Videobox despite the Evil Angel contract, and you won't actually find one Jules Jordan directed video, only from other directors within the "Jules Jordan Video" studio itself. Some directors would rather pimp their videos on 20 different websites and grab every coin they can. Others like Jules has his own website that he is trying to grow and needs no middleman.
4- I used Hotmovies and AEBN for years until simply the quality just wasn't up to par anymore. To try and stream in their highest quality stream causes buffering (even on my 24 Mbps ISP). I actually started to join sites like VB to get much better quality and to OWN the movie rather than "rent" it in a way with PPM streams. Now I use those sites just once in a while only to preview new movies, and figure out which studio site I want to join to download and own the video.
As I said, to each his own how they view porn. If you are into streaming movies, and don't get wrapped up in quality of the video feeds, much of what I'm saying might not matter. If you mainly know exactly what you are looking for and simply want to download to own it in a high quality, VB used to be great, if not the best at this.... but not anymore. They now score low.
1) How did they improve when they simply dropped a format and added no replacement? If I'm selling pizzas, my large is 18", my medium is 14" and my small is 10". One day I tell my customers it was hard to bake the 18" pies because its a lot of dough to roll and toss properly and nobody else in town is making 18" pies anymore, and then I rename my 14" pizza "large" on the menu at the same price as the old 18", what exactly did I do?
They previously offered WMV in a high and medium bitrate, around 3000 and 1000 respectively, and an MP4 in a medium and low bitrate, around 1000 and 500 respectively. 4 formats for every video on the site, excluding the 13k videos that had a 5th HD format. Now they elimated both WMV and only offer the two MP4 formats which they've simply renamed "MP4 medium" files calling them "MP4 high".
2) It goes without saying that if a video was not shot in HD it cannot be uploaded in (real) HD. My point is that every video they upload it should be offered in a format that is similar to purchasing or renting the actual DVD, whatever format it was shot in. I think its fair to presume that was their original plan for the site. Something that digitally replaces your neighborhood porn store.
3) Money coming in to a dead studio is almost like free money for junk in your garage you thought was old and useless. Most studios still producing porn have no need for a middleman eating into their profits.
4)I will join Videosz maybe once a year, but most likely go direct from now on. I wont join Videobox again because Im not joking when I say the quality is equal to free tube sites. But that's just me. For those who don't download and look mainly to stream, it might have some value.
The score is directly related to the significant drop off in quality.
I should add that not only does the dropping of the WMV format signify a loss of download quality, but ALSO a drop of STREAMING QUALITY. The "HQ" button that was available while streaming every video is now greyed out for 88% of their content now (I'll explain this number next). It only remains on the videos available in HD format.
To add some more detail, for those unaware, as of today, 03/25/2015 they have a total of 108424 scenes, but only 13793 (12%) are available in HD. Of those HD scenes, 4396 are Premium-only and not available with the standard membership, leaving you with 9397. So maybe I was speaking in hyperbole before, but the facts are 92% of their content is in the same quality you would find on a free tube site.
The purpose of buying a subscription from VB was for the quality of streaming and downloading, and to support the porn studios in a 3rd party indirect line. We pay VB, VB pays studios, studios can then continue to pay performers and keep producing movies. With VB so nonchalant about such a significant drop off in quality, I would not recommend them at all, so I feel the score is warranted. Its almost as if they are begging me to use free tube sites by their recent changes. I would rather piece meal memberships, a month here, a month there, at all of the studios I like directly. They will offer quality in HD, have more videos than is available on VB, and sometimes cost cheaper than the $15-$35 fee that VB charges for premium channels.
If you are set on a collection site like this, I'd recommend Videosz before this one. They have similar studios and the download quality is (NOW) much better (though that wasn't the case 3 months ago).
Did you actually read my post? I wasn't able to get a login issue resolved due to no reply from support at that site. Which means I was a member. Make sense?
I'd just like others to know that support in my case was nill. Next time read the fuking post.
Nice review again Pat and got me interested about the site but yeah mad I never got any email for $15 as been a member of fame sites a few times myself.
$30 for just one site is just at that point when I start comparing it with what you get for less at other sites and these days I tend to not have so much money to be spending on porn sites so look for discounts. $19.99 would be a better price and I'm sure they would find they make more money. At the $19.99 point I tend to take a punt on a site, $30 has me thinking too much lol.
Thanks for the review pat. I agree that the site needs some growth, especially at the price they're charging. When I joined I got a discount offer in the email but as I stated in an earlier forum thread I stopped getting those email offers from all Fame sites. Maybe they were losing money on me because I took them up on their offers so often... (I'm just kidding, because by using their offers I pretty much retained a recurring membership by cancelling and rejoining on a new discount offer almost immediately so all I was getting were the new updates.) They really need a discount. There was a lot of buzz about the site when it first came out but now that it has died down $30 for this volume of porn isn't a good deal no matter how great the scenes are.
No change. Its totally IR couples type of stuff. It is simply my personal opinion they are the best at it of any website currently at it. They even can boast top models. This weeks update is August Ames a sure win for lovers of IR coupling. I think where this IR website sets itself apart is in the quality of their filming, the contrast of the couples, the excellent doggystyle in every scene and how the women always act like its the best thing ever lol. Not my intention to mislead anyone. It is however my opinion this is the best IR website on the net.
Well Mia Ryder for one knew exactly what she was getting into. Amber Rayne bragged she could handle anything they threw at her. Gaia thought she could handle them (And she did 3 times). It is just my opinion. I am positive some women are 100% shocked at what happens to them. But only because there is a disconnect between what you are told is going to happen, and enduring it when it happens. If you listen to all the interviews (My favorite part) you will see that some women see this site as a badge of honor. On top of that the people who run this site pay VERY little. So why would Tori Lane, Trina Michaels and the other famous women come? About them being thrilled? Well there are a few scenes where the women are really into it Angelina Milee was REALLY into it. Abby was so into it they started spanking her like Daddy used to and that really got her off. My favorite scene is with Mya Mckay its amazing. Having said all of that I believe these ladies are told up front (And there is significant evidence of this in their interviews) what is going to happen. When the rubber meets the road is kind of when the magic happens.
Actually I can think of a few sites that do compare to them. Queensnake and Elite Pain are two such examples. Queensnake is not at all my cup of tea. Elite Pain however is everything a spanking website should be. I would do a review of them however they switch sites so often because of their legal issues.
I agree with you that this is extreme. I think what makes it so powerful is you know this is real and not an act like 99.9% of porn.
Naughty America used to be the best website imo. I was terribly sad at what they became. I would have given them a 30 if possible. 30 because at least they had some Sheena Shaw and Asa Akira scenes lol. Oh by the way guys Blacked is featuring a new August Ames scene this week ... WOW.
I appreciate your feedback so please allow me to explain. I was not as harsh on this site as I would be a mega site or on a more established site. Lets face it this is a Niche site. This is also a new site with over a years worth of quality updates. I can list on one hand the number of sites with only HD videos (True HD). Only people who are interested in couples IR fantasy are going to go to this site. As such I could find no flaw. To show you I tried to be unbiased please look at my other reviews. Also I am not the only person to give this site a 100 score. About my criticism's they were more of a wish list. I seriously doubt they will alter their site based on any of those criticisms and I did not feel they were of the magnitude that deserved a deduction. I will give you an example one website I used refused to cancel my membership now that is deduction worth for sure IMHO. I will give you some more meaty details. There are 55 scenes almost 300GB of 1080p resolution. I love the contrast of the white scenery with the IR couple. There are BBG, BGB, Anal and the best thing about the site in my opinion is that it features doggy style. I feel it would be mean spirited to deny them a perfect score when they do perfectly what they claim. High production values crisp downloadable scenes. This is my idea of perfection.
Pat you didn't see many reviews because the site has been idle for nearly 5 years. It was online but not updated since 2009. Back then it was popular and there were many reviews on it.
I re-joined because i had been a member of this site in the past when it was still actively updated by Julie herself and enjoyed the content, but all the videos were in low resolution so i was hoping in this 2015 relaunch that they were going to be all remastered to 2015 specs, at least 720p, the stills taken from the vids on the tour pages are all in 1920x1080, but alas, that's just a trick. Inside it's the same old vids just recoded to mp3. Not HD and not even downloadable anymore, so yep, compelete waste of 30 bucks!
Totally agree about being picky.... I already have more porn that I will probably ever view..... now am looking for new & different, interesting and creative.....always looking for that special item that makes the heart race with excitement like it did when I first saw porn so many years ago.
Kind of like mining for gold.... have to look through a lot of mud, clay, and rock to find those glittering objects.
Sad but true about the drop off in new content. There were years when there were over a hundred new sites featuring peeing, now last year I don't think I could name ten new ones, and many more closed than opened.
The taboo nature is part of the fun too. If it weren't for people opposed to it, and you are entitled to your own opinion, then it wouldn't have quite the same thrill.
This has been beat to death on other forums. Posts supposedly from a Brazzers.com employee have implicated it to VISA, of course, you can take that with a grain of salt. This same poster, who is supposedly charged with reviewing Brazzers content, wrote about some the other criteria for removal which include models in pigtails, because it is too suggestive of underage, and models drinking alcohol on the set.
Owner wrote in an article on XBiz.com how he was forced to close when his payment processor cut him off. This actually wasn't because the content was too extreme, but he was a UK operator, and he failed to comply with ATVOD. Rather that allow him to work it out, his payment processor just terminated his account, and rather than try to find another processor, he just closed up shop.
Along this note, sites forced to close or remove content by ATVOD could be added to the list, and there are many of those.
It is relatively common knowledge that F2M peeing may be permissible in small quantities on US sites, but M2F peeing is off limits. This is one of many US sites that specialized in M2F peeing that have closed over the years. Do I like M2F peeing - not at all - but it still proves my point. Some people do enjoy it though, and these sites shouldn't have had to close.
There's another huge group of sites totaling in the 100's that have categorically been censored by the credit card processors. Sites that featured #2, which I am not into, but also had tons of other content that was legit. I won't list them all, because these sites pushed the limits too much for mention here. I will just mention one.
This is the best example, because if you go to her new page on Hightide (ask me if you want the link, but be warned), she explains in detail how credit card processors forced her to take down her site. She did lots of straight up peeing shoots that were legit, but they went down with the ship. We have talked about her peeing content, although not about this idea, but she is an example of someone who might be open to this distribution model.
Bringing back the older stuff owned by people that left the industry is a long shot as you say, because those people are checked out and unreachable.
My other idea was licensing stuff that was censored by the payment processors though, and that may be an interesting discussion, so I am moving it to the forum.
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