Unfortunately, they intentionally trick you into buying a full year membership of their other sites.
Half the page take up a banner advertising that you can get access to other sites for just $69.95.
If you are curious and click this banner, to see more about this offer. That's it! You have now bought a full year membership. One click on a banner. No confirmation. The banner takes up half the screen.
This is stealing.
After arguing VERY insistently with EPOCH, I got a refund. But it was NOT easy!
Against my better judgment (see my comment from 12/2014), I went ahead and joined this site. . . .After leaving, my credit card called and asked if I had tried to purchase some items from `Best Buy`. . . for $1000!. . . I had not. Thankfully, THEY thought it was suspicious and didn`t approve it, froze the card, and issued me a new one. . . Avoid these crooks. . . DON`T BE STUPID. . . like me.
. . . Google CGBilling before you join. . . I was about to join up, but had never heard of the biller. . Seems they `lead the league` in UNauthorized credit card deductions, improper charges and just out-and-out stealing. . . Though listed here as `Commerce Gate, when you fill out the application, it says `CGBILLING` on the bottom. . . You`ve been warned.
Although there are no limits mentioned in the terms and conditions or on the support page, there are download limits. I downloaded about 9 vids and got a message that the daily download limit was exceeded. So there are download limits, there just never disclosed to the users until you are shut out.
I didn't see it stated on the site and I found out after 24 HD downloads that I reached the daily limit. Had I known that I never would have joined. Fortunately, after a heated discussion, II was able to get them (Epoch) to give me a refund.
I received an offer to rejoin for US$10 and I decided to take a punt. I was very pleased with my decision because most of the previous issues I mentioned in my previous review have been addressed.
What I noticed after my initial review is that the international site is radically different from the Spanish one but it now appears that the difference between the two is slight. The biggest improvement is that you now have access to over 1,300 videos (as opposed to the previous 320) on the international site.
Also the download issue has been resolved and I had no problems with using a download manager and getting excellent download speeds. Hooray!
I noticed that now I have access to all 1,300+ videos, there is a better balance between American and non-American pornstars with the latter definitely in the majority. In fact, from the last time I was a member (back in June) there have been only a couple of scenes using American pornstars. That's great news in my opinion because if you're looking for fresh talent, this site uses a good mix of Spanish, Russian, Czech and Hungarian girls.
This is not a site if you are looking for sensual scenes - in that case go to X-Art, SexArt, Wow Porn - but for me Cumlouder delivers exactly what I want: the girls are hot and guys are easy on the eye (though it seems to be always the same four guys) and the scenes are intense.
Where this site needs lots of improvement is its search ability. Pornomaniac said a previous review (29 Sept 2012) that some Spanish sites are not showing on the international one. I have checked and they are all there but not necessarily with the same name for each sub-site. Also, when you search through each sub-site, you only see the last two years of activity. If you want to access the older stuff the only way to do that is search by the girl's name and that should show you her entire portfolio. But be careful how you do that: you must type in the girl's name and not use the list of pornstars' name because the latter doesn't always show you the entire portfolio of scenes. If you search by the girls' name as I've mentioned then you will find all the scenes from the Spanish sites on the international one. Needles to say, this is quite frustrating.
Fun site and a nice network, but awfully small for $25/month. Gabby is hot and a true "MexiFILF" but unless you want to buy into the whole network, this site isn't worth it yet.
I've been hesitant to join this site dating back to a discussion in the forum well over a year ago.
The biggest reason. On the network's main site it lists the network sites included in the membership. Every single site listed says, "16 scenes".
If you go to each of these separate sites it says in the top header "100+ vids". Now I'm counting 19 sites. As you can see, 19 sites with 100+ scenes each is a lot different than 19 sites with 16 scenes each.
This further concerns me because if you go to each separate site there's only 8-12 previews showing in updates. I don't know if the preview just needs to be improved to show all scenes available, or information edited, like all 19 sites having exactly 16 scenes or if the top menu on each site (100+ vids) needs to be edited. That's way too many questions to answer. I've always thought the content looks good, but I'd like to see some more definite numbers on quantity before joining it.
While Thick girls aren't my thing Angelina has a lot of fun on camera, and that performance is charming. She hits all the right notes, but isn't my "type"
If Thick girls are your thing - her site has a lot going for it.
I have had an ongoing subscription to Bang Bros which I have kept active for a while and download a few videos each month or so. The problem is, I subscribed to this site through bang bros as an add-on. This is a a secondary site they have listed. The material is on par with Bng Bros. No complaints there. However, they are playing games and lead you to believe that your subscription is tied into your Bang bros subscription. It is the same password and user ID and Account #,. etc
I recently cancelled my bangbros subscription. But this did not cancel, even though it was part of the site as an addon. It is the same password and username etc..
It still comes up in the bangbros area at their site when I log in. When I click the support link to that entry, everything is written in Spansih. They don't do this when you access the site or sign up. But wait until you try to cancel.
Here is what you can expect from the 'help' link. again, everything is in English until you try to access user support or cancelation:
......
Si te suscribiste v�NETBILLING
En su estado de cuenta aparecera "SUPPORT-HAZE.COM" -o- "HAZESUPPORT"
Servicio al cliente, v�telef�a, del departamento de facturaci� Numero libre de cargos: 1-(877)-731-6065
Si llama de fuera del pa� 1-(661)-621-9047
Servicio al cliente, v�correo electr�o, del departamento de facturaci� support@hazecash.com
I called the number and they said they dont know anything about Culineros. Nobody writes me back. It is hard not to Conclude that they are playing games. At the number to netbilling they say I do not have a subscription. Neither bangbros nor these links for support will write me back. But my card keeps getting charged. This is nonsense and it is my opinion they made it like this to be so confusing that you cannot cancel or just give up.
This is bad for the industry when they do this kind of crap. I cannot help but believe this is dirty pool. Beware. I call SCAM on this. Shame Shame on Bang Brothers. Beware. I would reevaluate considering having anything to do with their site if you are a member. They are up to no good IMO and give the entire industry a bad name with such crooked tactics.
There is a big difference between the original spanish Cumlouder and their international site. Compare the updates they advertise because most of them come much earlier to the spanish site and it seems some sites among others ChicasMalas are not available in the international site. What makes up for this is the big difference in price in favour of the international site. 19.95$ a month vs 29.95€. You almost pay half the price for the international site when you use the The Best Porn low price in US dollars. I really like the porn they make but I am waiting for the spanish site at the right opportunity where our european currency is not that discriminated as now.
The worst in porn.....ok, we've all got different preferences...I'll give them/you that.
But joining this was one of my main mistakes - joined because some splendid models in the preview...but:
Do you like stupid talk throughout most of a video/clip? Do you like some guys behind and around a video camera yapping away with silly remarks trying to be hip or whatever - this is for you.
And so goes for the sex act...no erotica, just wham-bam....ect. followed by senseless talking - this is for you.
Never again....doing a review? No way....it'll not make my day - it'll ruin it.
"Maggie" must have had a bad day here (87.0 in score).
Stay away from the Brazilian-based glamour-site Bellaclub. They don't use an intermediary payment service like Epoch or CC Billing - they bill your credit card directly. And once they have your credit card info, they continue to charge you for 30-day subscriptions, no matter how many times you contact them re: Cancellation - your emails are conveniently ignored, even though they promise to respond to all emails within "24 hours maximum".
I'm going to have to cancel my credit card to get these sh**s out of my wallet - don't make the same mistake I made. Bellaclub - beautiful women, ugly business practices!!!
I recently purchased a 30-day membership to the Brazilian site Bellaclub - a few thoughts:
- strictly a softcore glamour site - no full-frontal nudity (makes the Playboy sites seem explicit by comparison!)
- approximately 140 gorgeous Brazilian models, unlikely to be seen on any non-Brazilian site
- beautiful photography; large, medium & small format photos available
- each model has approx. 60 - 80 photos, sometimes more; and a single behind-the-scenes-type video, usually about 5 minutes long
- some leg & foot photos available with most models
- available in 4 different languages (English, Portuguese, Spanish, Turkish)
- some articles & blogs, but nothing too interesting - the articles are grouped into sub-sections such as What Women Want, Personal Trainer, Dating etc.
- site navigation is a bit awkward
- no extra sites available with a membership
- usually $16/month, but they seem to have frequent special pricing offers, from 30 - 50% off the regular price
If you're interested in softcore glamour photos, and are looking for some fresh models not seen on the other sites, you might want to try Bellaclub (especially during one of their discount periods).
Well never been a member of this site but from the comments and the fact that TBP is not doing business with them its a site that one must stay away from.
But it is good to know that now nearly all the site content is available on videobox. (which i must say is very decent and most i would recommend others to check out)
This is my favorite sites on the naughty america network. The premise of this site is a married latina woman cheating on her husband or women trying to get a man to cheat on his wife. Basically what the title suggest.
But the thing that i like the most about this site and what sets it apart is in the scenes most of the women speak a little spanish. Don't know why but i find this erotic even though i don't speak a lick of spanish.
When you use the hot link to go to the deija vu site, and then go to the signup page, the membership prices are:
$34.95 for 30 days (recurring)
$69.95 for 90 days (recurring)
The prices shown at PU/TBP are:
$24.95 (recurring) monthly
$49.95 (3 months, recurring)
Did the prices change (with PU/TBP discount), or does PU/TBP need to update the prices?
their updates are old material already posted as for facialabuse.com, so "maritza" post today have been posted 12/05/2008;so that why i have note they removed several vids, use old material for updates.
So why did I notice this. On I just check my credit card statement and thought it seemed a bit high because I have not been putting much on it and found 3 charges of $39.95. I call them up and they tell me a Have a few websites I just joined. Now I know this is not true because the only site I have joined recently is NaughtyAmerica for $15 per month.
Oh yeah, sure enough there is a charge for $19.95 on there under the name equalscs.com.
Personally I think these people should be shot. And myself for not even noticing it.
Lesson learned: Read them VARY CAREFULLY. Every last line! What really pisses me off is my other card I do read every line, and same for my bank account. And this means a new credit card for me. So now i get the pleasure of going back and seeing how much if this I can recover. Just what a broke college porn freak needs!
What an absolute mess. I keep kicking myself because I should have known better. Part of my issue was that I look at my statement online and only look at the paper copy if I see anything funny. Online they do not show the location the charges are coming from. I do not know about everyone, but for most people charges coming from Israel should raise a flag and I am not sure why my credit company did not question this.
Anyway. Just adding my horror story to the long list. Only difference is that I knew better. I should be demoted on PU!
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