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| 03-24-10 07:41am - 5388 days | #21 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Since I am now posting even more than the shills, mainly because I cannot keep my big mouth shut, let's examine my predictions and hopes for last year. Under reasonably abysmal failures and non starters must go Jesse Litsch, Francisco Liriano, Nick Blalock, Jed Lowrie, Alexei Ramirez, Mike Aviles, Chris Volstad, Nick Hundley, and John Baker. Anyone wanting to be a visionary, the queue is on the left. Disappoinitng were Jason Bay, Quentin, and Jay Bruce, I pat myself on the back for Jered Weaver, Joey Votto, Josh Johnson, Rich Harden, Yovani Gallardo, Jonathan Broxton, Nelson Cruz, and Adam Wainwright. The rest were so so. About 50 per cent visionary 50 per cent idiot then. I risk further humiliation by naming my ones to watch this year. I go for the obvious Hanley Ramirez, mainly because he is my favourite player. Joey Votto I hope will keep up the good work. I want to give Jay Bruce another chance. Nelson Cruz to keep up the good work along with some of my favourite underrated players of last year in the outfield. They are Nolan Reimold, Andrew McCutchen, and Adam Jones. Gordon Beckham to hopefully continue the good work. Billy Butler at first is a strong chance along with Votto. Geovany Soto to get going and maybe Miguel Montero is another catcher to look out for. Howie Kendrick is good value at 2nd. For short stop apart form Ramirez I would go for Elvis Andrus, and Mike Aviles as good cheap options. After my runaway success with Broxton last year I have my eye on Andrew Bailey and Billy Wagner as outside prospects. Wagner is old, so it's an outside chance, and to call him a prospect is stretching it a little. I am just considering that he is not a name on a lot of lists. Other underrated names - Jason Kubel, Jason Heyward, and Kyle Blanks. Alexei Ramirez will hopefully catch fire. Underrated pitchers to look for (yes a lot have been named as potentials then dropped quickly) - Max Scherzer, Tommy Hanson, Ricky Romero, David Price (to continue to improve), Stephen Strasburg (obviously, but can he deliver?), Bud Norris, Johnny Cueto (to make a comeback of sorts), Dontrelle Willis (to make a comeback of sorts), Justin Duchscherer, Tommy Hunter, Gavin Floyd, John Danks, Chris R. Young, Kevin Slowey (again). Not going for the obvious ones like Wainwright, Weaver, Lincecum, Carpenter, the usual bunch. Everyone knows about them. Finally my big hope for baseball this year, the discovery of a nuclear bomb that destroys everything called Steinbrenner, but leaves buildings and human beings intact. Edited on Mar 24, 2010, 07:59am | |
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| 03-24-10 07:41am - 5388 days | #20 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Duplicate Edited on Mar 24, 2010, 07:48am | |
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| 03-21-10 04:40pm - 5391 days | #14 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
help stop we are under under attack stop shills everywhere stop reinforcemenets needed stop drooler denner wittyguy khan rick anyone stop cannot keep up the resistance much longer stop food running short stop ammo low stop Edited on Mar 21, 2010, 04:48pm | |
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| 03-21-10 07:32am - 5391 days | #4 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Nice to know I'm not the only cynical or suspicious one around. Are we being unfair? It does look rather suspicious doesn't it? If the new reviewers would just read some guidelines on doing reviews, or just look at some other reviews, at least they could put a better review together that doesn't look so suspicious. Is it the same shill hired by about 50 different sites to promote their site, because those sort of reviews always look the same. | |
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| 03-20-10 06:59am - 5392 days | #22 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
You are absolutely right. I was struggling to find a way they can improve. A lot of the things we hate - tats, fake breasts, the cookie cutter same old pro stuff, digitally enhanced pictures etc all have a certain look. We know what it looks like and most of us hate it. But trying to quantify it or sum it up quickly in a few words on TBP is close to impossible. So hopefully Rick will have it sorted in a week. Edited on Mar 20, 2010, 10:35am | |
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| 03-19-10 11:01am - 5393 days | #17 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yeah I realise my list was tough, but this is mainly due to TBP having everything needed pretty much covered, and in a way that is easy to understand. I agree with the others in that there is very little room for improvement. Natural photos or videos versus airbrushed blemishes and colour improved would be another thing. But it's really hard to analyse that, and is also a minor thing. | |
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| 03-18-10 07:50pm - 5394 days | #11 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Do they have regional price discrimination? Real updates or just recycled/relabelled old stuff. Customer service - time to answer customer question/easy to cancel subscription. Easy search and navigation? Percentage of girls with tattoos/fake breasts - the reality percentage. Number of downloads allowed at one time. How many pros, how many amateurs, or new? Are the amateurs on a teen or amateur site genuine or just the same old pros trying to look innocent? How many genuine new girls? Edited on Mar 18, 2010, 07:59pm | |
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| 03-02-10 05:17pm - 5410 days | #8 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Reg at American Vice. Best and friendliest customer support I have ever experienced. | |
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| 03-01-10 06:06pm - 5411 days | #11 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Hi messmer, pretty obviously it's golds first. That's how we do it in the UK and I think it's the same for Europe. Of course we don't win any golds in this country, unless they manage to sneak in an event that no one competes in, so it's a moot point for us. But as an objective observer the country that wins the most golds should be at the top of the table. On the BBC they were remarking how well the Canadians had done. Kerrin Lee-Gartner was a big part of the commentary team, and I enjoyed her contributions. The Ice Hockey was rivetting and it was nice to see the Canadians win. Maybe it's some compensation for not winning the Stanley Cup 999 times out of the last 1000. Anyway in answer to the question - yes, it's a no brainer, position on the table is determined by most golds. Well done Canada, I hated the comments from the British press, and thought it was one of the most entertaining Winter Olympics. I had no real reason to leave my chair apart from the obvious ones - eating and sleeping. Apart from that it was Olympics Olympics Olympics. What am I going to do now it's over? Porn seems so boring in comparison. The one drawback was my partner. Had to get her tucked up in bed early so I could get my six to eight hours in - of watching Olympics. Edited on Mar 01, 2010, 06:13pm | |
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| 02-24-10 04:25pm - 5416 days | #119 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I really hope I'm wrong. I still think we are in a golden age, which is soon going to end. I am old enough to remember a time where you could get two years in prison for selling a hardcore video, which would cost £60. It's why I think a lot of sites are great value for money, and people don't know how lucky they are. Sadly it will end. I still have the opinion that piracy, porn, free speech, and a free internet are worth protecting as they are inter dependant. | |
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| 02-24-10 01:55pm - 5416 days | #39 | |
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Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
It must be pure coincidence that I was thinking exactly the same thing. I guess we must all be far too sceptical, but I know I wouldn't touch that place with a barge pole. | |
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| 02-23-10 07:27pm - 5417 days | #117 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I agree with what has been said, but have an addition. Khan touched on something I have always thought would happen. We may get to the point where Governments treat ISP companies as they would TV companies, broadcasters, magazines, and newspapers. They will be made responsible for any material that can be accessed through them. There have already been talks from the British government about fining or banning ISP companies who allow too much downloading of pirate material. We will come to the point where ISP's will be responsible for adult material, or anything else considered unacceptable, for that matter. If governments don't like what they allow, they will fine ISP companies, put them out of business or even prosecute those in charge. Therefore adult and unacceptable sites will end up being blocked. We will end up in the same situation that we have now for TV companies. They can be prosecuted and lose their license if anything considered unacceptable is broadcast. As we know, reasons for banning or censorship is usually on grounds of safety, for the public's own good, racism, sexism, any reason they choose really. It's all for our own good of course. Can't have people coming out and criticising some government department for allowing 150 terrorists into the country while Bob was on a tea break. Should anyone break that sort of news, they and any TV company would be prosecuted on grounds of security. The country would be much safer if we all have no idea why Bob, our sole armed forces or secret services representative, was on a tea break, or why he was the only one covering the entire South Coast while the rest of the armed forces and police forces are in Great Yarmouth beating the shit out of peace protesters. The answer is the protesters are a hell of a lot more of a threat to government than any bunch of terrorists. At least terrorists just blow up normal people, not government officials. So everything has to be controlled. The very nature of censorship suggests we are inferior while those who censor are superior. How much they spend on controlling the internet is irrelevant to them. It's the most important thing of all, in them maintaining their control over us, therefore the internet has to be controlled. It's a doubly whammy. They censor to show us who is superior and who is boss, and they get to control and censor any crticism against them. The rich owns most of the media, so there is no free speech. If you own it you don't need to control it. The internet is the last frontier for genuine free speech being accessed. That has to be changed. As always those with a personal hotline to god know exactly that they are right, because they know exactly what god wants, and have to control our bad habits. Those sort, along with big business will always be great allies of government. The perfect axis of evil. Well it would be if I actually believed in the concept of evil or hell or god. Just in case I'm wrong - burn in hell you bastards. Okay the above scenario is a little heavy handed, but makes my point in a heavy handed way. The internet is too free. In order for big business and government to control us they need to own or control the media. They own most of the media therefore they don't need to control it. The internet is not only a thorn in their side, it is worth a lot of money to those in power. They will gain control eventually. They may use terrorism, murder, rape, sexism, racism, fear of violence or any other argument as a cover for gaining control. They have never cared much for people, just the opposite. A government is a people's worst enemy. The internet is the enemy of government and those in power, therefore the internet is our friend and ally. Edited on Feb 24, 2010, 05:43am | |
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| 02-23-10 04:17pm - 5417 days | #19 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Wittyguy, I'm nearly always sticking some part of my body into something, even if it is just foot into mouth. I have never been away, as I am always viewing what goes on here, it's just the free material censorship thing that I have problems with. Whenever I want to say something I remember that policy and decide not to post. On the other hand I have always seen the reasoning behind a site behind like this. It's to make sure that sites like the one Denner is having a problem with, do not profit from disgraceful behaviour, and to help ensure those sites marrying integrity and honesty with quality, succeeed, and to make a profit out of it. I think Rick and the rest are quiet because things are simmering in the background. It's never simple, and usually takes them some time to make a decision after careful thought. I think they will come to a decision that is considered a good one. Incidentally, there have been some very entetaining posts from yourself and some new regular members here this year. Edited on Feb 23, 2010, 04:22pm | |
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| 02-23-10 03:10pm - 5417 days | #13 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
The site has just shot itself in the foot, the leg, and the bollocks. They may be mad at the justified comments, but that is what PU is about. Denner is the one reviewer I remember from the earliest days because he was always the voice of the people and looked at everything from the perspective of the average punter. He looks and investigates everything and is among the most trustworthy members at PU. I am sure PU will pull the links. If they don't, that says a lot about PU. I have been critical of PU myself in the past, but Rick and the rest nearly always prove me wrong and come through when it comes down to decency and honesty. I hate what I regard as PU's censorship over free material posting, but that aside, they seem to take the view that quality, honesty, and integrity is good business in the long run, and trying to rip people off is bad business in the long run. I hope the people who run that site get everything they deserve. | |
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| 12-30-09 06:31pm - 5472 days | #95 | |
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Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
The problem is the average citizen doesn't even think once. Good post Wittyguy. Nice to see you keep fighting the good fight. Happy New Year to everyone. | |
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| 12-16-09 10:37am - 5486 days | #22 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Officially I'm not here. However just had to say excellent stuff. I pop in most days to see who says what, and most of it is very entertaining. Rumours of my death are completely true. I died about 10 years ago. Agree with most things with the one exception - think ik2fireone currently has the best avatar. Gotta go before "they" get me. Although if they do, they will only find half the man I was, which is only about half the man I thought I used to be when I was alive. Oh yeah, almost forgot. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. (You too Pinche, if you're still out there) Edited on Dec 16, 2009, 10:44am | |
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| 09-02-09 07:57pm - 5591 days | #5 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Personally I think your site is pretty healthy. You have your regulars, then you have some new members who pop in now and again, then you have some like Ik2 who joined and have kept contributing. I can only speak for myself but the one reason I have stopped contributing is because of censorship over free material. It's just a personal thing. I haven't made a post for about 3 months now and wasn't really intending on saying anything like goodbye, simply because there may have been something I agreed with or disagreed with so strongly, I may have felt I had to make a comment. Anyway I am here just about every day, reading with interest what people have to say. It's just I have gone back to being an observer rather than a contributor. The owners have their own quite legitimate reasons for not allowing discussions or posts about free material. They have the right to ask people not to discuss that subject. I have been a member of a few forums and the only ones I have left have been due to censorship, or over management, or over zealous moderation. I feel uneasy about contributing to any site that has censorship. That is just a personal thing. There is no right or wrong about it. The people who run PU have every right to have that policy, and I have every right not to contribute to a site that has that policy. This place is fun and I wish you all the best. I am always checking in, it is just I will not be contributing. I am just one ex poster. I don't know the reasons some of the others are contributing less. I do know that nearly every forum has a very high percentage of members compared to contributors. Guess that's the way it will always be. Rarely does a day go by when there isn't something I have wanted to comment on. You guys come up with some great stuff. I have just restrained myself on principal because I have always hated censorship and restrictions on freedom of speech. I guess this is my official last post. Take care everyone. | |
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| 05-26-09 12:55pm - 5690 days | #2 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Very simple - I would use only Pirate Bay, or something similar, to download for free. I would never subscribe to a streaming only site. Given the habit that some of them have for not telling the truth, or just telling outright lies, I wouldn't necessarily believe anything they may say. Admittedly I have already said that I think streaming may be more common in the future, but I do not think it will be 100 per cent. If it is I will download for free, and if I can't download for free, I have enough on disc already, even though I only keep about 5 per cent or less of what I download. There may be a two tier thing where after a year or two some of the streaming only becomes available for download. Although how many will subscribe to that, if they are like me and will already have downloaded for free, I don't know. Edited on May 26, 2009, 01:08pm | |
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| 05-23-09 04:47am - 5694 days | #17 | |
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Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
An entertaining and enjoyable read. | |
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| 05-16-09 11:06am - 5700 days | #3 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Hooray! Good to see you back lawy...err...I mean...good to see you back! Messmer said he was jaded and fed up too. If you're out there Messmer, I do think the best thing to do is take a break for a while. There is so much stuff out there that is available for such a cheap price, that sometimes I think we just gorge like a kid in a sweet shop. Then we get sick and need a break. Good to have you back toad. Edited on May 16, 2009, 11:10am | |
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| 05-15-09 03:32pm - 5701 days | #12 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
A real shame. You are one of the big favourites here. | |
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| 05-08-09 05:00pm - 5708 days | #3 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
People having more sex at home because of the recession? Probably. We always used to have sex at our favourite restaurant. I'd advise you to give their Hollandaise sauce a miss if I were you. | |
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| 05-04-09 06:18pm - 5712 days | #49 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Although I agree with what everyone says, especially Turboshaft's excellent post, I look at it from a slightly different angle. The rulers use our own money to back up laws that are detrimental to us. They use our money to control us. This is not accidental. By enforcing the laws mentioned, in the way that they do, they show us who is boss, and that there is nothing we can do about it. That they use so much money is irrelevant to them, as it is our money, and they would rather use it to uphold laws that control us, than feed or educate the poor, or help the sick. Should we step out of line in any way, they impress on us how bad life is in prison. That some laws are unfair is a positive bonus looking at it from their angle. They need and want unfair laws, and for them to be convoluted and complicated. That way their own can have a chance of buying justice, and the poor will get less justice. The laws are not there to be fair. They are there to control us and protect them from us. The more laws there are and the more control they have, the better for them. Since Roman times detrimental laws have been passed as an excuse to protect the masses. The ruling powers who own and control the media, frighten the masses just enough to enable them to pass laws, which were originally supposed to protect the masses, but are in fact there to control them. Usually religion and morally righteous people will join up with the controllers in an unholy alliance. This will ensure everyone is controlled sufficiently for the ruling powers to be safe from us, while the real criminals get to do their thing. The powers that be need bad guys, whether it be terrorists, murderers, paedophiles, gangsters, genocidal maniacs, foreigners or whatever, so thay can pass restrictive laws. Just keep the fear churning out in the media, which is owned by the very rich. A perfect system. Edited on May 04, 2009, 06:25pm | |
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| 04-16-09 02:54pm - 5730 days | #32 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Excellent stuff. Have to agree with Wittyguy though. You have to be very careful. I thoroughly enjoyed reading the answers, and the honesty. I really hope this captures the imagination of the PU public. If anyone deserves the honour of going first it's Toadsith. Edited on Apr 16, 2009, 06:53pm | |
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| 04-16-09 12:27pm - 5730 days | #9 | |
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Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
They know exactly what they're doing, because clearly this is their way of making money rather than with quality porn. Are TBP or PU administration going to do something about this? I hate those sort of scum. | |
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| 04-15-09 09:10am - 5731 days | #14 | |
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Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
FYI, I forgot the virus warning, and tried to check out the site. I also got the virus warning. | |
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| 04-09-09 02:57pm - 5737 days | #19 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
No, that's the drunken fights in the bar afterwards. The thing that Americans hate most of all, apart from them hating the game, is that we play for 5 days and it can all end in a draw. Unless england is playing, and then it ususally ends up in a loss after 3 days. One thing that is often asked is how come a batsman can deflect a ball behind him and it be considered a good shot. The reason is the ball is coming straight off the ground at 80-90 mph, with a field of catchers behind him and if he is caught he is out. You are expected to bat all day, and not get out once. If he gets hit by the bowler, it's just tough luck, he doesn't get anything for it. The bowler is patted on the back by his team mates who congratulate him for hitting the batsman in the rib cage. They tell him next time to aim for the testicles. It's a real gentleman's game. Edited on Apr 09, 2009, 03:33pm | |
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| 04-09-09 02:12pm - 5737 days | #17 | |
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Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
When in the US I was really shocked at the number of people who didn't care about baseball. Anyone who wishes me to teach them about the beauty of cricket, just ask. | |
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| 04-09-09 01:43pm - 5737 days | #15 | |
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Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I may not count cos I'm a brit, but I like the idea of both. I think 2 distinct leagues is more entertaining. There are pros and cons for either side. The purists always claim there should be no DH. However I do get a bit tired with the righty/lefty matchup crap round about the 6th inning with the NL. I have always thought that 162 matches was far too long, but you put your finger on it - money. I also think to play that long and then only have best of 5 in the first round of the playoffs is ridiculous. It would be far better to have 120 games in the full season, then best of 7 for the first round of the playoffs, then best of 9 from there. But then all those sad bastards who know and love all the stats over the years for 162 games would be grief stricken. Maybe now after the steroid scandal would be a great time to start afresh, as a lot of those figures are unrealistic anyway. | |
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| 04-09-09 06:39am - 5737 days | #96 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Well I didn't say you weren't wrong, I just said it didn't make you a bad person! Okay I guess it would be bad of me to say you are definitely wrong because I cannot prove what is in the hearts of Pat, Messmer, or Drooler. I just take what they have said at face value. I just read what they said and believe that represents their views. Obviously I do believe you are wrong, but that is just a belief. My argument and the reason I was bugged, was not really about whether their posts might be considered to be negative. I'll agree to disagree on that, and I have already given my reasons why. It was more about the claim that the posts read as though the posters said that women should ask men about getting implants. The key to that is the line "I am kind of tired to be blamed for women getting implants," added to the fact that Pat and Drooler then went on to say that was not what they meant, and I think then went on to suggest that you misinterpreted them and ignored what they really said. Whether people think what they actually posted was negative that is something else. It was how it was turned around and misinterpreted. So yes I think you are wrong on the intentions of the posters. Only the posters know what is in their hearts, but when people get misinterpreted it does sort of annoy them. It bugged me, and is why I considered it must be more of what is in your mind than their's. I don't need to be a psychologist to wonder why what was posted was misinterpreted. If you wonder about the annoyance from some of the members, it probably has less to do with telling them they are wrong or negative, it is misinterpreting what they say, and then telling them they're wrong or negative. That becomes more personal. There's nothing necessarily wrong about that either, but it is guaranteed to cause annoyance and a reaction. On the other hand I have said if you think something needs to be said then say it. I have never been in a conversation when a woman has told me I was full of shit, not in conversation about women or sex or the sexes anyway. Maybe politically, but I can give as good as I get. If I think a woman is full of shit I'll tell her, because just as many as men are. Then I'll produce evidence to back it up. I admire the sort of doctor you seem to be, and the reasons you chose that path. It's hard to grasp the nature of what you are from the few things said in posts, but from what I can make out I sort of like it. I have no doubt I would be someone who would wind up your sensitivities and drive you round the bend if we ever met in "real life." I would sort of take a perverse pleasure in seeing your sensitivities squirm as I launch my views on life, love, sex, politics etc. I mentioned the thing about my relation having breast surgery because I believe in the truth. I know people who are religious and have had religious experiences. As an atheist I can believe them, or just reject the evidence as lies,stupidity, or illusion. That is what I believe ignorance is, and it would be ignorant of me. In life you have to confront all truth and all evidence, then draw a conclusion. There are scientists who have rejected results of experiments because they disagree with their ideas or theories. That I believe is ignorant. I could have left the bit out about my feeling superior mentally to women who have had breast surgery. But that's how I feel, therefore I have said it. That doesn't necessarily mean I am superior, it's just the way I feel. I have not seen a lot of evidence to suggest breast surgery does help a lot of women permanently, but I have seen some evidence to suggest it helps some for some time at least. If there were more evidence to suggest that it makes their lives better in the long run, even though it wont cure all their problems, I think I would be less negative. I would still regard it as a mutilation, but that is irrelevant, because If something helps medically, then it has to be considered. Even electric shock treatment. Did it work? I don't know. Maybe medical competence will improve. Until then I will regard most of those who have breast surgery as sad, inferior, air headed losers with a lack of self esteem, who have mutilated themselves. I may even ask "where are the bolts in your neck?" Just got back and did some much needed edits. I guess I'm still waffling. "At this rate, we'll top 100 replies." - Here's to the next 100! Edited on Apr 09, 2009, 01:55pm | |
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| 04-08-09 12:20pm - 5738 days | #9 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
This is what I mean when I talk about the way things evolve. I have never meant that it's all a giant conspiracy, it's just that the powers always find a way of using technology against us, just as we try and use it against them. I don't think most UK citizens are aware of this, I certainly don't think US citizens are aware, but there is a monitoring dome in the UK run by the US secret services. It monitors phone calls using computers. If a certain amount of key words appear, it is then that it draws the attention of human beings. For instance some key words could be - bomb, terroroism, explosion, nuclear, allah, islamic, undermine, government, subversion, chaos, terror, anarchy, etc. If a few of the key words come up then no attention is drawn, but once a certain number appear it is then the human element kicks in. Do I like a base run by a power, that could even be an enemy power on my doorstep? You can guess the answer. Is there anything I or anyone else can do about it? No. Forget talk, forget protest, it doesn't work. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try but there is nothing anyone can do. The world is run by the few rich and powerful, for the rich and powerful. It has always been and it will always be. | |
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| 04-08-09 09:59am - 5738 days | #5 | |
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Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
That's brilliant. Love that post because it is so true! | |
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| 04-08-09 08:19am - 5738 days | #2 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yeah I heard of this one a few months ago. How you view it depends on your point of view. If you think governments are batting for us, the poor humble folk, then you could argue it's a good thing, as those terribly honest upstanding people just want to catch the bad guys and protect us all. We can therefore trust them with all that information. If that is the case, can I interest you in a game of poker? If you're like me however, you view the biggest enemy of a people as its own government. Therefore the enemy will utilise every conceivable weapon it has against you, to keep you under its control. Just as we use new technology to battle against the powers that be, huge corporations, and anti democratic governments, in the pursuit of truth and freedom, so they will use that same technology to fight us. Edited on Apr 08, 2009, 08:28am | |
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| 04-08-09 06:28am - 5738 days | #87 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yes I read it. It wasn't anything like you said. It didn't read in the slightest bit like women should ask men about whether to have breast implants. This is what he said... "I am kind of tired to be blamed for women getting implants. Is it possible that women somehow think that implants will appeal to man and therefore get them without first asking us whether we want them??? " Taken together and in conjunction with everything else Pat said, it isn't even close to how you interpreted it. The same goes for the rest of the posts, except mine. Mine are negative. On the other hand I realise you interpreted it in your own way, and that is not a crime. It would be wrong of me to say or infer that makes you a bad person. I guess we just disagree on this one. "Last, I do want to show you one thing that most psychologists deal with, at the first of the post and in another post, you mentioned that you were trying to get me to look inside myself. Yet, you don't agree with most psychology? Think about that for a few minutes." For the record, I belive psychology helps people generally, that's why I was interested and studied it when I was younger. (That was over 30 years ago though.) Like any other profession, there are good and bad professionals, and even the best get it wrong. Sometimes they are dragged down and drag their profession down by their own hubris. So what I meant was, you have to be analytical and sceptical about everything, especially about the mind. At the same time psychology and psychiatry help a lot of people. "I have always loved psychology and sociology as a layman. But I also know how these things can lead you down a blind alley. They are certainly not 2+2 = 4 sort of professions." Some doctors, both physical and mental can be so arrogant they do harm. At the same time we need their professions to help us. It's just there needs to be constant monitoring, and a realisation that they are not always right and that there are many things left to be discovered. (The Cleveland child abuse scandal was an horrendous case of arrogance by doctors in this country.) I believe in questioning everything, clearly so do you. I was very surprised how you got the tone wrong of what was being said, and misinterpreted what was being said. However your explanation and subsequent history makes excellent reading. "You also said if something needs to be said then say it. I did, and you see what it turned into." What?! Nothing except an excellent thread (IMO) containing some great thoughts and arguments on both sides. (Okay my posts contained too much waffle, and I am not that happy with them.) Better end it here before I start waffling again. Great thread in my opinion. The main thing is the arguments and opinions are out there. Would you get this sort of thread anywhere else on a public forum, let alone a porn one, with 2 psychologists involved? Very unlikely. Just one more thing as a late edit. Personally I do believe that plastic surgery for some can improve lifestyle, lift depression, and increase self worth. Not all the time, but sometimes it can work. Maybe it was missed, but I did tell you about the relation who had implants. She was much happier afterwards. Whether it can help many, or help permanently, I don't know. Edited on Apr 08, 2009, 11:17am | |
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| 04-07-09 02:37pm - 5739 days | #8 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I agree, it would be great to see the Cubs win. I quite liked the Mets team, but there was some bloodletting last year. I hated the way they treated the coaches both in New York and Milwaukee. I am wondering if this is going to have a knock on effect this year. Both Wright and Reyes have to be at their best and the rest have to fire on all cylinders too - not sure Delgado can keep it up, but maybe Church could have a great year. Pitching looks too reliant on Santana to me. Maybe there's too much negative recent history there at the moment. | |
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| 04-07-09 02:22pm - 5739 days | #74 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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The above hardly comes as a surprise. I think I have finally put my finger on why the post by Exotics bugged me. It's this... "I think most of the thread had already said indirectly that women make a decision to change their body for men, and that as I told Drooler, is bullshit." No it hasn't. That and the whole tone to me was an overreaction. Then I overreacted to the overreaction, by making long waffling posts which I hoped would not be too offensive. Everyone has said that no this is not what has been said. It wasn't said, and as far as I can remember in the short time I have been here, it has never been said here. Now women changing their appearance to appear in porn - yes, obviously that is in a way changing their appearance for men, as they are being paid to have sex for men to look at. So they want to look, what is considered the best. My reaction was as negative as Exotics, but I now sort of understand why he overreacted and was so sensitive. The rest of the posts have been great. Even Exotics makes some great points, but it was that one thing that bugged me. Edited on Apr 07, 2009, 02:25pm | |
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| 04-07-09 11:04am - 5739 days | #70 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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GCode, I hope you don't mind me butting in here again as I've already said too much but I'll keep it simple. Great post (IMO). | |
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| 04-07-09 07:56am - 5739 days | #68 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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Drooler, without a doubt, you, Pat and Messmer said what you wanted to say a hell of a lot more clearly, and better than I have. At least the two sides can all agree to disagree without it getting nasty. Edited on Apr 07, 2009, 08:13am | |
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| 04-07-09 05:48am - 5739 days | #67 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I will agree one thing - my posts are definitely too long! Sorry guys. I'll stick with what I said, especially the bit about not being with a woman who is so mentally inadequate she feels she needs implants. What I could have said with far fewer words, is that I was wondering why the overreaction by Exotics, which seemed totally out of place and out of synch with the other posts? He has answered that from the way he talks about the problems he has experienced in his job. I think the answer to his reaction maybe lies more with what is in him, rather than what is contained in the other posts. In his profession he has experienced so much, he is over sensitive to what has happened to people physically. As far as the word mutilation goes, I shall stick with it, as it applies. Especially as female circumcision is referred to as "genital mutilation." There are degrees, and different types of mutilation. In life there are always degrees. It's just one word amongst many, that describes things. It's just sometimes people can be over sensitive to what is said. I was so worried about trying to be respectful and not getting into an argument, I was just waffling, trying not to be too attacking. But I failed. I guess Exotics fell into the same trap, and the posts were long. I think at least we have learned we can argue and disagree without it descending into chaos. My answer to the question about would I stick with a woman who had implants is the same. It is simply a question that doesn't apply as I would never be with someone that mentally inadequate in the first place. But I can sort of answer it using a line of thought. I would stick with her whatever, through thick and thin, disability, physical or mental traumas, as she is my life and I love her dearly. If she suddenly had mental problems, I am well aware how changes in the brain can change a person, I would still stick with her, even though she would be a different person. So the answer to the question would be "yes." I didn't mean to mock you or sound like I was mocking you. I am well aware of my faults and shortfalls. I am someone who always makes fun of myself as well as other people. Maybe it's a way of self protection, but I do think it helps to be realistic about yourself. I prefer people who can be serious but don't treat themselves so seriously they don't have a sense of humour, and don't realise their own faults and arrogances. It's all part of life. Sorry - one more thing. Exotics, if you think something needs to be said then say it. That includes everything in this thread. It doesn't matter if people mock or disagree. At least it's out there. People can read it and make up their own minds. Edited on Apr 07, 2009, 09:00am | |
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| 04-06-09 07:59pm - 5740 days | #62 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I think the last part of your post really gives a good explanation of what you think and feel. I wondered why you were so very sensitive about the subject and seemed to overreact. I was thinking maybe you can at least look at yourself and see why you feel the way you do, and at least you can try to do that. I can see why now too. A lot of the stuff you have experienced goes deep. I do believe you are very disturbed and upset by some of the comments, and some of the things you have seen and experienced, and I can see why you are upset and reacted so strongly. I have always loved psychology and sociology as a layman. But I also know how these things can lead you down a blind alley. They are certainly not 2+2 = 4 sort of professions. The word "mutilations" is very strong when compared to some of the stuff you have witnessed. But it is also very strong when compared to scars left by botched surgeries or infections, followed by more scars from more surgeries to correct the botched surgeries. I am hoping society will consider breast surgery on healthy breats to be a mutilation, which will hopefully disuade those with a miserable life and lacking in self esteem from having it. That I find very positive. Yes it is up to the female whether or not they want these surgeries, but everything said here has not doubted that, just the opposite. I love how psychology and psychiatry have helped mankind to a certain extent. But I also hate it for screwing up people, because of insistence on a certain line of thought. They delve into the mind and well meaning professionals get it totally wrong and create all sorts of damage. I am wondering whether you are looking down a blind alley when you talk about looking beyond the obvious thoughts. Is this just an excuse to justify what appears to be, on the surface, a total overreaction on your part? Is there something deep inside of you that caused this overreaction. You can go on forever talking about subconscious thoughts. It's a bit like all those religions, each telling everyone what god wants. Yes every religion has a hotline to god. But since god doesn't personally make an appearance to tell everyone what the hell he thinks, no one is really going to know whether he she or it exists, and what he thinks and who is going to burn burn burn. The same goes for psychology. Psychologists can interpret anything in whatever way they choose. I always find them interesting, but I am never sure whether they are right or not, or just don't know, or maybe what has happened to them personally has clouded their thinking. I'm not saying you and they don't contribute. I just tend to be a bit more sceptical, because there are good and bad doctors, psychologists, and builders. Even the best get it wrong sometimes. I think you have totally misjudged the tone of this thread, and I believe it's more to do with your experiences than what is here in reality. On the other hand I think you are one of the best and most entertaining contributors. I want more psychology not less. Although you may not like to talk about it much, as it's you profession. Please don't think that I think that you or your profession are bad. It does sound like I'm having a dig. Maybe I am, but I am hoping it is not considered in a bad way. I really don't mean it in a bad or insulting way. I think your profession really helps a lot of people. It's just like everything else, it has its limitations, and should not be considered 100 per cent reliable. Would I leave my wife/ partner if she decided to have breast implants. It's a Catch 22, or maybe disingenuous question, simply because my partner is not that stupid and mentally inadequate to begin with. I would not be with her in the first place if she were. She sneers at women who do this in the same way I do. Is that something bad in us? Maybe, but as someone who feels and knows the world is terribly unfair, I am disgusted by the medical resources used to mutilate healthy breasts. I have also known a number of cases where the surgery has gone horribly wrong. Thankfully no close friends or relations have had that happen to them, although I have a relation who has had breast surgery. It did make her feel very happy, so maybe there is something to be said for it. I know there are things to be said for it. I have dwelt on the negatives. But I have also said why I think the attitudes here are very positive. I do feel your reaction and mine have been the most negative. I think the rest have been very positive. You can argue that anything you disagree with has subconcious negativity. I tend to be quite sceptical when this sort of thing is claimed. I did deal with the tribal thing in my earlier post. I am well aware of what is done in order to fit in, or to conform. I can understand that. That's why I understand having surgery in order to get rid of blemishes to fit in with what is considered normal. To me the tribal things I have brought up are unsightly and uncivilised, but I can understand human beings wanting to fit in. You can well ask how come I feel they are uncivilised and how come I feel superior, just as I feel superior to those who would have surgery on a healthy body. But I do feel immensely superior to a woman who would do that. I do look at myself and my own negatives, and maybe I don't have a right to feel superior to anyone. But in all honesty I do. Just as I feel superior to a lot of the people you have talked about. But I also know that I could well be in their position through no fault of my own. But the feeling of superiority remains. A contradiciton? I am giving you the ammunition to hit back - but I don't mind that at all. I don't want you to think that this is an attack on you. I realise that you may have your mental fragility and faults, but so do I. I think if you pursue the truth and are honest with yourself, you can start to understand yourself. Only then can you even start to understand other people. On the other hand if anyone wants to tell me this is total bullshit, I promise I wont criticise them. I can understand why you reacted in the highly sensitive way you did. I think your post is as negative as mine is. but I think the others probably said it far better in fewer word than I have, and with better spirit than me. I think their heart is in the right place. I am surprised and disappointed that you misinterpreted the spirit of their posts. I believe you did. Why you did is another question. I accept your criticism of my post as unduly negative. But sometimes you really have to be negative and extreme to get things done. Edited on Apr 06, 2009, 08:14pm | |
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| 04-06-09 05:35pm - 5740 days | #5 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Sadly Channel 5 in the UK has dropped the Wednesday and Sunday night ganes from ESPN, which is a big shock. It's my next favourite sport to cricket. I've been following the sport and watching it for over 20 years. As a fantasy fan I also like to keep abreast of some new young talent or underrated talent. So here are some of my favourites to do well for the year. (This is going to look sort of sad and foolish in 3 or 4 months) Yovani Gallardo, Josh Johnson, Kevin Slowey, Rich Harden, and Chris Volstad are all in my team. I also have my eye on Francisco Liriano, Adam Wainwright, Jered Weaver, and David Price when he finally gets a shot. Maybe Ricky Nolasco could have a good year. In the outfield I think Nelson Cruz and Jay Bruce are underrated and I have them in my team along with Quentin and Braun. Alexei Ramirez is good value at 2B. I have always loved Hanley Ramirez and Jose Reyes at SS and David Wright at 3B. But this year I just have Ramirez. Was toying with Zimmerman at 3rd. I am going for Mike Aviles and Jed Lowrie as low value players with good potential. I had Kerry Wood as closer last year but have Jonathan Broxton this year. I may get Wood back in the team. I almost went for John Baker as catcher but finally opted for Nick Hundley. At 1B I fancy Joey Votto or Nick Blalock (although he may be DH), to have a break out year. I like to go for reasonably young players with potential and mix them in with some reliable experienced solid class. Since I am one of the most loud mouthed opinionated members here, it's a solid gold bet that I will be foisting my opinions on everyone a number of times before the season is over. Let's just hope the Yankees have another shit season. The Yankees lose, the Yankees lose, the eee eeee eeeeee Yankees lose!!! Justin Upton, Jesse Litsch, Denard Span, and Jason Bay, are also top of my list. Upton is on the bench. From absloutely nowhere will come this year's Cliff Lee, but I honestly haven't a clue who it will be. I had him and Lincecum in my team from very early last year and they did me proud. (It could even be Jered Weaver, who has real class if he can get back some control, confidence, and keep injury at bay) Edited on Apr 06, 2009, 05:55pm | |
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| 04-05-09 06:48pm - 5741 days | #2 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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Yeah gotta second that! This is the place to go for finding out the right and wrong sites to join. Some of the guys here put in better and more detailed reviews than TBP. | |
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| 04-05-09 06:13pm - 5741 days | #54 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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Looking at all of the posts I really think mine was the only one with any negativity. I don't think for one moment that most men still think that what a woman does for, or to her body is for us, and I don't think anyone here has said that. In porn as in prostitution the answer would be yes, as these models are taking off their clothes and/or having sex for money. So they have to look good, and may wish to resort to cosmetic surgery as they feel it is necessary. I am really pleaed that a lot of us here are saying that, what we find looks the best, is a lack of too much artificial stuff, and cosmetic surgery. Outside porn I have never been in any doubt about why a woman looks the way she does. I have asked a number of women over the years about why they want to look slimmer, have bigger breasts, smaller breast, different nose etc. The answers may not all be the same, but when it comes down to it, the answers are nearly always unanimous in saying it is not about how it looks to men. Of course they could be lying but I don't think so. Some of them have said it is all about how it looks to other women and being accepted as beautiful by other women. These were not gay or lesbian women. My views may be backward but they are honest ones. It may be upsetting, but that's just me. Sometimes I think you have to be honest. But at no time here has there been the suggestion that women should have to ask men about what they do to their bodies. How can anyone who is supposed to be a psychologist so badly misinterpret the spirit of what is being said here? That is not meant as an attack. It is no more an attack than you considering some of the things said here as negative. I don't mind that at all, as I consider you are right. But I also consider what is being said as very positive too, in that men hate to see women get painful, expensive, and dangerous surgery. The men here also think it doesn't look good either. As I have said, I don't really think it is about men at all anyway. That in itself is positive. Even if some men think that the reason women outside porn have cosmetic surgery is for them, they are wrong. It is much more about self esteem. But I also think that if society as a whole (that's men and women) consider cosmetic surgery on a normal healthy body to be unacceptable, than this will filter through, and hopefully most women will look to other ways to bolster low self esteem or a miserable life. That can only be positive. Incidentally one side of the body is larger than the other. In women it is generally the left side. Therefore the left hand, breast, foot, will be larger than the right. In men it is generally the right that is larger than the left. So Mr Porn really does have some basis in reality. Edited on Apr 05, 2009, 06:18pm | |
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| 04-05-09 04:05pm - 5741 days | #49 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
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I was going to say a lot, but Pat, Messmer, and Drooler have said it so eloquently that I cannot possibly improve on it. But there are one or two things I would like to add that are not as eloquent as those three, but I would like to say anyway. Exotics said "I also can't help but wonder how the young woman who just bought implants because she had self-image problems, feels about being called a mutilation?" I honestly don't know, and it really isn't my problem, I just consider her sad and screwed up. I do know I'll look at her in the same way I may look at a beautiful girl with a 3 inch wart or birthmark on her face. I see the beautiful girl but I cannot help but notice the thing that detracts from the beauty. The one difference is that one chose to mutilate herself, and that was her choice. If the others choose to have surgery to remove the warts or birthmarks they were born with, or to create a breast after a mastectomy that is something else. They are chasing after an image of what society considers beauty, or maybe just plain old normality. They do not wish to deviate from the norm. they wish to be normal. Centuries ago chubby was considered beautiful because only the rich could afford to eat. What is considered beautiful changes over the years. I don't blame women with something that is outside the norm to wish to be more normal or average. But cosmetic surgery on a normal body is something different. If girls choose to do these things to themselves to change their looks and are then judged on those looks then that's their problem. They are changing their looks. Therefore they will be judged on their looks. There are tribes where girls add rings to their necks to elongate their necks or add giant plates to their lips. With the elongated necks, if the rings are removed the neck will break, but it is done in the pusuit of beauty, or at least what is accepted as beauty. At least that is accepted in their tribe. But I do look on them as uncivilised. I am being honest, and I realise I am being judgemental. I regard women who pursue cosmetic surgery in the same way. I take pity on those women as being uncivilised, inadequate, and looking to make up for a lack of something in their life. Couples look to have more children to draw a crumbling relationship together. It usually has the opposite effect. So I look at women outside porn, who have this surgery, to be sad losers who look to make up for their sad lives and poor self esteem by changing their looks. Maybe it will, and maybe it wont. But porn is something else, and maybe it was me that was confused, because I should have separated the two. There are those in porn who I think feel the need to get cosmetic surgery. I think this site and hopefully tastes of men in general will lead away from this unnatural surgery. I think this thread and others is great. There are men out there who love the natural look. Hopefully this will continue in the future and the masses will rise up and say no to cosmetic surgery. Most of us have said what we want. I hope others will do the same, and maybe the message will get through to the porn industry. This will save porn models from unnecessary surgery. But in porn it doesn't matter who the model is or how nice she is, or what she feels. We are here because we like to see girls with no clothes and/or having sex. It is all about looks. Therefore we do not want to see models who we consider ugly or unnatractive. This may be retro or politically incorrect, but the porn industry is all about looks. So they better get it right or they don't get my money. Pat, Messmer, and Drooler put it better than I did. I would embrace what they said as part of this post. This forum contains all sorts of suggestions about scenarios, dialogue or no dialogue, who looks great and who doesn't, does the cameraman talk to much, toys, anal, fetishes, etc. So there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying what we have said in the way that we have said it. Porn is all about looks and what looks good, and that's what we talk about. Edited on Apr 05, 2009, 04:47pm | |
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| 04-05-09 05:55am - 5741 days | #45 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Me backward in my views about women?! Never. Tell Mrs D to be quiet and get on with the washing up. There is a big difference between cosmetic surgery for psychological reasons and cosmetic surgery in order to further the career in porn -where indeed women are nothing but objects. These are two very different reasons and I think you are confusing the two. We are talking about cosmetic surgery in porn. There will be more to come on this - but it will have to be later as I am too busy preparing and cooking the meal for my partner this evening. I'll be back. | |
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| 04-04-09 07:07am - 5742 days | #11 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I rarely join for more than a month and have never joined one of those special offers for one, two, or three days. One month gives me time to download all that I want from a site. I do actually watch everything I download...eventually. This means I only join a site occasionally, and I am very selective. Then it takes me weeks to watch what I have downloaded. I strongly suspect most of you don't get to see half of what you download, except maybe on fast forward. For the most part I find porn instantly disposable. Download it, watch it, then delete it. | |
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| 04-04-09 04:32am - 5743 days | #36 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I have realised the connection between piercings, tattoos, and fake breasts. First of all the models get pierced through the brain, then they get fake breasts and tattoos. And no, it isn't because I'm old I don't like these things. I am young at heart. I even like some of this new punk rock music by bands such as The Beatles. I even have a car that you no longer need to wind up before you start. It's 3 horse power. Used to be 4 but one of the horses died. Edited on Apr 04, 2009, 04:36am | |
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| 04-02-09 06:12am - 5744 days | #11 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Just to continue on the theme of mutilation and alteration, (yes I know I've said this before) but to me those tattoos look like cancerous growths most of the time. So maybe those models with fake breasts and tattoos belong on some weird fetish site. I think I'll start one. Hmm...let's call it..."Brazzers." Brilliant. Sounds good. I bet no one has thought of that yet. Edited on Apr 02, 2009, 06:17am | |
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| 04-01-09 05:54pm - 5745 days | #3 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
For me, fake breast are a total turn off. I would rather no breasts at all than fake ones. If they are fake it is, to me, as though they have been cut off, and are no longer a thing of sexual interest or beauty. That's just me. There's no right or wrong on this. I don't think there's anything wrong with anyone who loves fake breasts, it's just I find them ugly, like a bad mutilation. The model can still be beautiful but, in my eyes, she has a mutilation. | |
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| 04-01-09 08:23am - 5745 days | #15 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Agree with everything said. On the face of it, a forum run for profit by the trade, that has a forum for customers is like....like....well, a Christmas or Thanksgiving party for turkeys arranged by the poultry trade. But it seems to be working. | |
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