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10-08-11  10:25am - 4824 days #33
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Originally Posted by bibo:


Although the idea sounds interesting, just ask yourself one question:

How many of those scenes would you watch without klicking the fast forward button? One? Mabye two?

I assume it's the same as usual. Once you get used to the setup, it's getting repetitive. Although I admit that the current direction of the industry is quite boring as well.


What's the difference between one DVD and the other at the moment? The action by its very nature is pretty well the same in all of them. Only the actors change. As you said, boring!

The difference, for me, would be in how a scene starts, what clothes and lingerie a woman wears and how quick the transition from fully dressed to naked is. A bit more emphasis on the clothing and lingerie would make every DVD different from the one before it. There is also tremendous tease value (that heightens the eroticism) in the act of slowly revealing what you have. Would that get boring as well after a while? Probably, but certainly not as quickly as the mindless super quick switch at the very beginning of a video to sex alone.

My objection is to the rapid transition from fully clothed to fully naked in most DVDs. It reduces everything to raw sex, which is fine with me but not if the whole scene consists of it. Then it becomes as boring as watching paint dry. It is during those lengthy scenes where they attempt every contorted position that *I* fast forward to the end.

10-05-11  11:17am - 4827 days #10
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Oh, yes - tax on fat.

An idea created by the brilliant minds of our new, three days old left winged government.

A government with a hole lot of health freaks who's also is going to seriously raise taxes on other of life's more pleasurable tings like smoke, booze and beer

They keep breaking promises made BEFORE the election - too many naive Danes voted for them.

But we got the right to vote them out again


I sympathize with you, Denner. But only mildly because our Governments, both of the left and right, have considered it their God given right to tax heavily everything that might be pleasurable. So, no matter who we vote out, the next bunch won't be any better.

10-04-11  12:58pm - 4828 days #6
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Does that mean all you Cannucks and Euro types will have to spend more on BBW and older women websites


I wouldn't put it past our government, Wittyguy. At least when it comes to BBWs.

On a more serious note, I wouldn't be in the least surprised if obese people became the latest target for Canadian society and doctors, and the health care system in general. A while back we actually had some doctors who refused to treat smokers. So, why not refuse to treat people who like Wendy's a bit too much! And why not a 10% tax on all items that contain fat? It`s all so logical, and all so wrong. Big Brother is here!

10-04-11  11:03am - 4828 days #31
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^I think 10 minutes centered on 2 people eating would be a little long but if what you had was these same 2 people eating but the camera could pan so that we see that below the table you have the girl using her foot/feet to play with the crotch of her eating partner. You intermix those shots with some above table shots where the 2 players are exchanging sexual innuendos and that would go a long way in preparing us for eventual escalation.


Now that sounds good to me, Pat. I never thought of that angle.

10-04-11  11:01am - 4828 days #3
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Originally Posted by Capn:


(Big Brother Mode)

Now you know it is for your own good!

Cap'n.




You got it Cap'n. Big Brother is here and I don't like it!

10-04-11  10:01am - 4828 days Original Post - #1
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... for introducing your new "fat tax" in Denmark. Canada cannot resist following other countries when it comes to the improvement of its citizens' health, if they like it or not, so I guess we'll be paying more for butter and cheese etc. soon ourselves. So, thanks for setting the example, Denmark!

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10-04-11  09:51am - 4828 days #29
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Originally Posted by gaypornolover:


Also whilst I can appreciate a "lead-in" scene to set the fantasy, I don't want 10 minutes of models eating dinner together before they get to the sex!


That was a bit of hyperbole on my part. I would find that slightly boring myself. I simply reacted to the fact that, in most DVDs, we are practically thrown into a sex scene without proper foreplay or story. Or if there is a bit of a story the transition to raw sex is too annoyingly quick. Wouldn't do any harm to show a model undressing for a few seconds and then proceed on!

10-03-11  10:59am - 4829 days #18
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I still remember the reason I ended up here in the first place. I had written the webmaster of Abby Winters to tell him how much I enjoyed his site and he suggested that I might want to express my positive feelings about AW in PU.

I saw nothing wrong in that because I was not being rewarded by AW in any way, so I didn't see myself as a shill for the site ... just expressing my appreciation in a different place. And I am glad they did send me here. I've enjoyed PU and its members tremendously ever since.

So things aren't always clear cut. In my case it was nothing more than an opportunity to gush over a site that I really liked and in this case it is not inconceivable that five people got the same idea at the same time to post a review, if they participated in a forum. I am not saying this was the case, but it is possible.

10-03-11  10:46am - 4829 days #11
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Originally Posted by elephant:


Hi, that's terrible news messmer and frightening stuff, can't understand them how they got the card number, very weird.

What card do you get then with only having as much as you put in, sounds like a good idea, I only have a regular one.


Yes, it's a rechargeable card, elephant. I don't have a line of credit with the bank but put money out of my regular account into the card. This is great because there are no statements coming to the house, there's no interest, there's no temptation to overspend BIG on an impulse buy. Something that is all too easy with a regular credit card.

This crook's theft couldn't have happened if I had stuck to my original plan to only "deposit" small amounts to the card, just enough to cover the price of subscription to a site or two, but my bank sometimes takes up to three days to process a deposit or withdrawal, and I let the amount on the card build up too much so I wouldn't have to wait. I guess that still facilitates impulse buying, but on a smaller scale, doesn't it? A mistake I won't make again. And I still have no idea how they could have gotten my number. All the porn sites I had dealings with in the past were quite above board when it came to billing.

10-03-11  10:33am - 4829 days #17
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Reading between the lines of one of mistresskent's latter messages, I got the impression she's taken a serious interest in music production of some kind.
If or how this is impacting her website I don't know, but her recent absence posting in the forum, I'd venture to say, is felt by all of us who follow her delightfully amusing input. I for one sure miss it.


Yes, I think you are right, graymane. That's the impression I got (interest in music) when reading her posts. I think she even mentioned having some gigs if I remember correctly. Something I don't do too often. And, yes, she's missed for her wit and charm.

10-03-11  10:29am - 4829 days #23
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I have to disagree that this type does not exist.

You know, X-art has been releasing some very light to hard core in the same scene. They start off in some senerios like a new married couple and explore each other into eventual sex scene. But they never go raunchy, they just do get into mutual oral sex, and various penetrations. So not softcore, but they do it to where it seems almost real.

Of course there are those that like sweat, and tossing the girl around like a rag doll, spitting and pee scenes too.
And X-Art does not come close to that.

I like allot of the solo scenes that X-art does they have the sense of realism to them. Sometimes ( for me ) the straight sex scenes are a tad boring where it will take up to 10 minutes it seems to see a nipple LOL.


Thanks for the x-art tip, CT! Sounds good!

10-03-11  10:28am - 4829 days #22
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Just to make things a bit clearer: I am not talking about DVDs like the ones put out by Wicked, Vivid, Playboy etc., especially the ones for late night TV. They all have stories, some even have romance as a theme, but in every single one of them the transition from introductory scene to completely naked seems too startlingly quick.

MY beef in general is with this abrupt transition from talk, or whatever, to being completely nude and in the middle of hot sex already. Realism (not romanticism) demands that there be some undressing before the action commences. That's all. Whatever they want to do after that is fine with me. Live and let live.

10-03-11  10:14am - 4829 days #21
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I haven't watched any Playboy videos in many years. And I only saw a couple of them from years ago. But I seem to remember that they were softcore sex, with a lot of romantic prelude of handsome man and female before they have sex, which was strictly softcore.

I don't know if Playboy is still cranking out that type of video. But you might look into it. I am not talking about the centerfold videos, or the internet model of the week videos. I am talking about their sex/romance videos which were strictly softcore.


Now this is the funny thing, lk2fireone. I don't mind for the sex to get very explicit. It is the leading up to it that I find lacking. I don't like Playboy. I subscribed to their TV channel for a few days and almost died of boredom.

10-02-11  07:32pm - 4830 days #15
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Yes, as you know this is a concern of mine too.

Despite a lengthy crusade, I have found little to satisfy, but thankfully there are still one or two gems.

I am still waiting on Mistress Kent to get her on-topic content uploaded.

Cap'n.


I think she's busy with other things at the moment, Cap'n!

10-02-11  07:30pm - 4830 days #14
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


A better classification might be fantasy. Lol.


I think you are right, lk2fireone! A nice fantasy for me though. I like the tender touch!

10-02-11  07:29pm - 4830 days #13
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I think it would sell, BUT finding porn actors and actresses who could make it convincing might be almost impossible.


LOL, you got a point, Ed! Well, as I suggested elsewhere, maybe instead of talking they could pet for a while. Everyone can do that. But would young subscribers stand for it? How can you get in a bj, four different positions, plus anal and the obligatory cum shot in ten minutes?

10-02-11  07:26pm - 4830 days #11
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Originally Posted by SeanUncut:


Yes, actually it's one of the things I specialize on my site. seanuncut.com (Artistic, Passionate Porn)


I am glad you chose to take that route, Sean, even though your site would not appeal to all.

10-02-11  07:24pm - 4830 days #10
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Another provocative thread, my friend, and timely considering the direction the porn business seems to be going in.
What you are describing, I'd say, bordors more on the old fashion, classic terms called either "romance" (noun) .."romantic" (adj) ... "romantically " (adv) ... or the figure of speech best befitting this senerio: "romancing" ... (verb).

Your way is decidedly logic, socially sensible, conventional and solidely grounded in normalcy ..... conditions of which mark the antithesis of the porn industry's interests.


You are right, graymane, it would be definitely swimming against the stream of popular demand if any element of romance were introduced into a scene. But it would be nice to see a bit more cuddling and caressing and kissing before the heavy stuff starts! Another thing I have yet to see is a model giving little love bites to her partner's nipples. Just SOMETHING that breaks the mold of the accursed gonzo style porn. Ah, well, I won't start a crusade over it ... just saying!

10-02-11  07:18pm - 4830 days #9
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I'm not saying this to be sarcastic or insulting. Please don't take it that way. There used to be a genre of porn that was marketed at couples. I found it a bit dull so I never looked at any unless it had a must-see star in it. But the theory was that women got the romance and men got some hardcore: win-win.

I have no idea if this kind of porn still exists or not, but if it does it might be what you're looking for.

I do have to admit that this made me think of a line from Bill Maher when he talks about hearing a therapist speak about men and women sharing mutual fantasies. He breaks the bad news to women by pointing out that there are no fantasies where a handsome man rides a horse across a field, sweeps the woman off her feet and embraces her, and then comes on her face.


Hi rearadmiral, I am not actively looking for this kind of porn even though it would be a refreshing change, I am mostly reacting to those stupid interviews done by uneducated clods, where without a transition, the model is talking one moment and then is on her knees, naked, the next "enjoying a bj.

10-02-11  07:15pm - 4830 days #8
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Maybe, but my fantasies have never included having a meal, drinks, or both. After all, it's not food that I lust after...


Okay, you're allowed to sit or lay on the bed for ten minutes, petting heavily, to use the old term, until you proceed. That any better?

10-02-11  10:15am - 4830 days Original Post - #1
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This is something I keep missing. A scene that starts with the actors having a drink or a meal, or both, that then slowly progresses toward the ultimate act of intimacy with a lot of kissing, tender caressing, and definitely slow mutual undressing before they eventually end up in bed. To me THAT would be sexy!

Would that still be Porn, I wonder?? What do you think?

10-02-11  09:59am - 4830 days #13
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Originally Posted by graymane:


I couldn't agree with you more, Sir messmer..... absolutely nothing about the combination of water and women even remotely does anything for me. Furthermore, it presses the limit of understanding for me why anybody else would. My take on bathing scenes smack more of boring TV commercials than porn at any level.

I'd be a much happier trooper also if more stuff came my way without the obligatory BJs, multiple/lenghty/closeups and necessity to include in each scene every coital position invented by man. And don't let me leave out the inescapible finally --- THE FACIAL.


I might be tarred-'an-feathered by opposition for stomping all over those popular, closing thoughts I'm submitting here... but if I am, just bring it on cuz I'm gonna throw my two cents worth in every time I'm invited or see an opening to rant about it.


Naw, you won't be stomped on by me, graymane, because I agree with you. I keep subscribing to Videobox and will never understand why I keep doing this because I keep fast forwarding through all the things you mention in your second paragraph. I simply don't see the eroticism in a scene that shows raw sex in all positions for twenty minutes. I get bored too easily with it therefore most DVDs remain un-downloaded in my house.

Ten minutes of foreplay (which definitely includes a leisurely strip) plus ten minutes of sex I could handle, but then the younger crowd would roar its objections to the perceived waste of time that is spent on undressing and caressing because it cuts down on the sex.

What frustrates me even more, and we've discussed this in another place, is that my formerly favorite pure softcore photo sites that included a bit of a strip in each set have accommodated the hardcore fans, so there's not much to choose from these days, despite the thousands of sites available to me.

10-01-11  10:42am - 4831 days #8
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I definitely get a sense of deja vue all over again as I read the responses, Drooler. Blame encroaching senility for bringing up the subject again but since I am primarily a photo fan I run across so many tub scenes that I just had to vent. Thanks guys for responding to this unofficial poll ... again

09-30-11  07:02pm - 4832 days Original Post - #1
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I'll make a tentative start with bathtub/shower scenes. They are an automatic "skip to the next update" with me. I don't have any idea why this should be so but I see nothing sexy about ladies in a tub or in a shower. You'll probably disagree with me because there sure are a lot of updates in photo sites containing the above, so someone must like them.

So, which updates do you skip or mark low in your favorite site?

09-29-11  02:57pm - 4833 days #9
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Adding insult to injury: I just discovered that this despicable outfit took me for another $ 39.95 on September 11. Card has been cancelled for sure!

Now, while I wait to get my new card (7 - 10 days) any suggestions on which "photo, softcore, mature women in alluring lingerie slowly stripping" site I should spend the first dollars of the new card?

And a word of advice: Always check your statements carefully. These scam artists will usually take you for roughly the same amount it would cost to subscribe to a Porn site for a month and you might assume it's something you're a member of and let it slide. Keep the name JacsHelp.com in mind when you read your statement. Edited on Sep 29, 2011, 03:03pm

09-29-11  02:48pm - 4833 days #9
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Thanks, graymane, that was the best spoof of the "reality" genre I've had the pleasure to read.


09-28-11  06:49pm - 4834 days #8
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Specifically to your question Messmer, I can only relate how it has happened to me before. As you sign up for a site, they have a bunch of pages and on them with the check mark already in place they auto op you into a new site for a three day free trial. If you don't uncheck the box and/or don't cancel within three days, you get a full price bludgeoning on your credit card.

Of course not knowing your particular circumstance regarding any recent purchases online, I can't say that you were caught this way, but can only say I have fallen victim in the past with this type of scam.

Thus my lesson learned is to read the small print - take my time - see what else this dogs are trying to scam me with whenever I sign up for a new site (or any purchase off the internet really).

I will say though that the people I dealt with to get my money refunded were a lot nicer than these folks appear to be. As for Gerald Pitts, I don't know what laws he's broken, but there are a few States (Delaware is one I know)and other countries that are a corporate haven for companies doing business in other places. I guess WY is another.

This is not to say that all these companies are scammers, though I believe Mr. Pitts is not unknowing of the way some of these companies do business. I'm sure some day he will get his nuts in vice and someone will squeeze him raw.


Wise words and I have followed your advice re. checking everything very carefully for years because PU contains a lengthy record of people who got burned by not looking first.
I won't get caught by pre-checked trial offers and never use trials, period, lest I forget to cancel in time. So the whole thing is a mystery. All my transactions were done through CCBill, Epoch, SegPay and GMBill (I think they are called), the agents for Abby Winters. The only thing I can think of is that someone was desperate enough in one of these places to sell some crooks my credit card number or that they were hacked.

Oh, well, I'll remove whatever balance I have on my re-chargeable card tomorrow, or day after tomorrow (my bank is always a few days behind when it comes to transactions) .. then let them try to sneak in another $ 40,00 (CA) charge and see how far they get. It is unfortunate though, because it really soured me on buying anything via the Internet. Edited on Sep 28, 2011, 06:59pm

09-28-11  02:19pm - 4834 days #5
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


It baffles me how scams like this can persist. I can understand a 'company' located in some third-world country popping up for a month or so, running a scam and then shutting down before it gets too hot. But a company with offices in at least two American states? From what I could see with a quick Google search messmer's experience isn't uncommon. Why would a company like this be allowed to continue? Maybe there isn't enough evidence to bring criminal charges, but you'd think banks would be blacklisting them and refusing to accept charges from them if the numbers of charge-backs and complaints was hight enough.

But then again, I'm sure a lot of people let 'minor' charges like this go and just pay them lest they be revealed to have paid for a porn membership at a fully legal site. I know I've done that before. If Sears stiffed me on an online purchase I'd be jumping up and down yelling, but if I think I'd have to admit to buying a membership at "Hardcore Anally Stuffed Babes" then I'd probably pay the bill and shut up. W

Which probably answers my question about how these guys get away with this crap.


You make some valid points there, rearadmiral. If I were in doubt re. a porn site I wouldn't have reported it to my bank. But I made no subscriptions at that time that aren't fully documented and I've never made one to a site that would cost me $ 39.95 so, the question remains: who gave them my number?

09-28-11  02:14pm - 4834 days #4
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


bitchwithanitch.com (see http://whois.domaintools.com/bitchwithanitch.com) is owned by Jubilee Advisors, Inc. (who run jacshelp.com) and the principals of this company which is registered in WY are Kaled Essrauwi Arias (who is located in the Jubilee Advisors at 701 Brickell Avenue, Suite 1550 Miami Florida,33131 US Tel. +01.3057285107), Olivier Richard (who serves as Pres & Sec and lives in Boca Raton FL) and Gerald Pitts (who has his fingers in multiple pies out of WY - see http://www.corporationwiki.com/Wyoming/Cheyenne/gerald-pitts-P2778136.aspx))

"Jubilee Advisors Inc" owns about 35 other domains, including but not limited to Directions for Sex, .... and others I don't care to research.

But I did find this interesting article from Huffington Post regarding Mr. Pitts open but shady dealings - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/28/a-single-house-in-wyoming-business-haven_n_885863.html


Scary stuff, jberryl69. So many crooks out there. Just read up on Mr. Pitts. Director of 41 companies??? Why is he not in jail?
And how the heck did he get my credit card number? Makes you wary of doing business with anyone on the net, unless you've dealt with them before. I haven't been to any doubtful places, though .. so I really don't know what happened there.

09-28-11  11:18am - 4834 days Original Post - #1
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Some scam site called jacshelp.com has helped itself to US $ 39.95 out of my credit card account. Has anyone in here ever heard of it? Google is full of complaints about this site. I am definitely cancelling my present card. Thank God it only has as much on it as I put in, if I used a regular credit card I would really be running scared now. Edited on Sep 28, 2011, 06:30pm

09-17-11  02:04pm - 4845 days #55
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I think my take has always been, balance.
Meaning a little not allot is good.

I mean I love, opiates and Alcohol, so much so that
I have now clean and sober nearly 7 years. Was too much
of a good thing and now I can not stand either.
They nearly killed me with liver damage!

Porn is my outlet, and I am still very intimate in my home life. I keep a health balance is all. My own experience is
for me if I do not balance I will self destruct !

Hence me coming back after personal time and some serious evaluations of my adult material.


Once again let me say that I am sure glad you're back, CT! And I agree that balance (in just about everything) is indeed the answer.

This is where I was lacking ... I've always been a homebody, even before nature insisted on it, and had built all my entertainment and keeping myself busy around books, TV and my computer, figuring I'd be good for the rest of my life .. but I think in the case of Porn it eventually took up too much of my time once I discovered pay sites and I got just a touch jaded.

I've had my ups and downs but nothing like what happened this time when, all of a sudden, I was totally indifferent to Porn. It was the suddenness that floored me. Was this it: would I spend the rest of my life not knowing how to spend one half of my day? Filling the gap with outside activities was out, as I mentioned already, so this was SERIOUS! I am very happy to report that after approx. two weeks things have returned to normal even though I am still looking for that one exciting (to me) site I could subscribe to on a regular basis. With most, I get that initial rush ... Eureka .. I've found it and then a couple of days later it is blah time because one update looks the same as the other .. but that's another story and I'll stop now!!

09-17-11  09:17am - 4845 days #53
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Hey, but isn't it actually a sin to worshiping false idols (or at least idols with false tits)?


That is exactly why I am so vehemently against enhanced tits!

09-16-11  09:36am - 4846 days #51
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Though I have no religion or supernatural/deity beliefs of my own, this might be about as close to a religion as I'll ever get. And probably why I think sites like InTheCrack should be considered non-profit like a religious organization, as they seem to be a church of the female form. (And if ITC is just a mere cult, then I've long since drunk the veritable Kool-Aid, and I'm asking for more!)

I think much the same about women too, even though I also like them to be strong and independent as well, oh, and a filthy mind never hurts! I guess I like my mortal goddesses here on earth to be somewhat Old Testament style, in addition to the nurturing and caring aspects.


Thanks for making my day, turboshaft. You have a way with words!

09-15-11  05:55pm - 4847 days #21
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Originally Posted by graymane:


I think we ought to simply get them outta bed mornings, sans the cosmetics and immediately have them transported onto the set, and let the cameras roll.
I slightly prefer the untouched natural look, because in the true sense of the words, "what you see is who I am... and what I am is what you get."


Don't you think we should let them take a shower first, graymane?. I even vote that we let them brush their hair afore they go performing!

09-15-11  09:50am - 4847 days #49
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When reading the various comments I come to the conclusion that, far from being misogynistic, many of the participants in this forum tend to put women on a pedestal.

I was one of them but my female (platonic) friends disabused me of that notion by assuring me that the distaff members of humanity were capable of the same excesses, callousness, jealousies, envy, lack of loyalty etc. as men.

In my heart of hearts I always thought of all women as being kind, loving, nurturing (thanks, Mom) which caused a belly laugh and the remark: Get us off that pedestal, you have a completely wrong view of women. Just like with men, there are the good, the bad and the ugly!

I still adore women, I certainly still enjoy looking at them, but have a more realistic view of them now than I did before the internet and newsgroups came along. They are flawed and fallible just like us. Wish I had felt that way in my youth because I would have had a much more active sex life since Goddesses intimidate a young, insecure male to the point of impotence.

Now to www and his God! I must say I like Him a lot and completely agree with www when he has a hard time reconciling Him/Her with the traditional God of Love on one hand and Wrath on the other. In much of traditional religion you are being asked to leave your common sense behind, that's why the kindest, gentlest people can nevertheless believe in eternal punishment .. I never could and never will.

As opposed to others here, I have never felt a twinge of guilt (I'll qualify this later on) in connection with my love of pornography. Maybe it is my European background or the fact that no one in my family ever instilled a sense of guilt in me when it came to sex. It also helped that we didn't attend church where some Priests/Pastors sadly seem to major in inducing guilt.

Therefore it will never be remorse that will make me erase my stash. Boredom, maybe, but never guilt or remorse. The only time I get a twinge of "Man, I shouldn't be looking at this" is when my darker twin takes over and sends me momentarily from softcore to extreme hardcore. I try to keep him in check because women are still HALF on the pedestal with me but he does take over occasionally and since I don't flagellate myself over it I guess he will be with me until my mojo is really gone for good.

09-15-11  09:08am - 4847 days #6
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Wot Pat, Capn, Ik2fireone and elephant said! Welcome back, Cybertoad. You WERE missed!

09-13-11  09:42am - 4849 days #12
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


If it could be one of my favorite stars rather than a "well known" (well worn, if you ask me ) then maybe. I guess I would be worried about under-performing or not performing at all! Or worse, perform and then have her laugh at me afterwards. I definitely don't want a professional condemnation on my lack of Casanova prowess--regular, non-porn girls are fine for that!

It's all about the fantasy for me, and as much as I love to think I could rock her world, if only for a few minutes, I also know I am not Mr. Ex-Con drilling and filling her in a typical video, and with nowhere near his experience or apparent lack of compassion towards women. Maybe a Girl Next Door-type experience (which doesn't even go all that well anyway) would be more along my lines than paying to embarrass and/or shame myself with my fantasy porn star.


Thanks for being so honest, turboshaft! This is exactly how I would feel if I weren't stopped from doing it in the first place because of loyalty to my wife ... and age now!

09-08-11  08:54am - 4854 days #43
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I rather thought it might.

I am very pleased for you, my friend.

It didn't take that long now did it?

Cap'n.


Nope, and this gives me great hope should the dive occur again. Just give it time, is my motto now!

09-08-11  08:52am - 4854 days #42
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I do hope she is still female!

Cap'n.


She probably is, Cap'n! My present doctor isn't!

09-06-11  10:38am - 4856 days #36
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Originally Posted by graymane:


However, we draw the line when I'm needing a digital prostate exam.


LOL. Actually physicians are asexual in my eyes. When I first developed an enlarged prostate gland I went to my then female doctor without giving it a thought!

09-06-11  10:34am - 4856 days #35
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


Agree with IK2 about WWW. Always good to see him make an appearance.

Messmer, I don't blame your being concerned, however I do think taking a self imposed ban would make all the difference. I quite often have enforced breaks simply because I don't have the time to be around the computer, let alone watching porn. This keeps it all fresh for me. Simply watch normal tv. Occasionally you will see an attractive girl and that may well lead to your interest being stirred again.

All the other things mentioned, could be contributing factors.


Thanks, squirrel! I guess the (about) two week period I did without porn must have helped. It was not self-imposed except in the loosest sense .. I just didn`t care any longer until I actually forced myself, out of sheer desperation, to look at my old material when women still wore sexy lingerie.

Porn has been my main entertainment for quite a few years and its absence left quite a gaping hole. As you can see in my response to www I`M BACK!

09-06-11  10:26am - 4856 days #34
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Hey, www. So good to see a post by you. I really miss your company and let me tell you how grateful I am that you chose to be just as open as I was.

It was quite embarrassing for me to "let it all hang out" (left over from the hippie days) and showed the desperation men experience if they are in danger of losing their sex drive.

I read up on it, it is never supposed to come on suddenly, yet in my case it did. I had been bored with most new porn for quite a few months now, but always got a rise out of older sets that were shot more to my taste and then to suddenly find myself indifferent to all porn was a tremendous shock to my self-esteem as a male. If Hugh Hefner could do it well into his eighties, why not me.

I hope that despite the fact that you have given up on porn you will still drop in now and then and keep in touch with people who really like you! Also thanks for your best wishes!

Now to the good news: After experiencing boredom, lassitude, indifference for a couple of weeks when it comes to porn, my mojo came back in full force!



It did not come back from looking at the bland stuff photographers put out these days but from practically forcing myself to go back to my formerly favorite old picture sets in my stash and, bingo, my libido proclaimed: I am still around!

Maybe all my friends who tended to blame the imitative and lame sets being churned out nowadays were right after all. At least mostly right because I am sure there was also a psychological factor at work. In any case I am back! And more than glad of it!

09-01-11  10:26am - 4861 days #24
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Without belaboring the point, The male adult market -- and even with the help of a health provider, at our age, through a prescription or other mediums, there's a vararity of stuff out there that'll wake up one's libido.....nuff said.
So get on the saddle, Sir Messmer....and ride, ride, ride.


Hey, thanks Pard! I appreciate your suggestions. I couldn't go for the toys or enhancers because in my present state I wouldn't even feel like picking them up .. but getting a prescription for some testosterone would be a grand idea that I could really go for! But what do I tell our family doctor who knows our circumstances: "Doc, could you prescribe something for me so that I can enjoy porn again?"

Still hoping and expecting that the whole sorry thing will be only temporary, I remain,

Sir M.

09-01-11  10:19am - 4861 days #23
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Well, if you think of porn as a drug, and that's something worth considering, then maybe there should be a drug interaction warning on the containers of those meds! Or even at the sites! LOL

I can just hear what the TV would sound like: "Don't mix with BGG or BBG or especially BDSM."


LOL. A "drug interaction" warning on my drugs would definitely be helpful when it comes to porn. But seeing that I've taken them for over three years after a TIA I still see them as only a potential part of my problem.

I suspect that mine is most likely a case of ennui, a feeling of ho-hum, there's nothing new under the sun. Whatever they offer I've seen before with only the faces changing. Denner might have a good idea when he suggests that I start collecting models I like. While it might not give me the erotic rush I crave it would keep me browsing and therefore occupied. Nothing worse than just sitting and not wanting to do anything.

08-31-11  10:49am - 4862 days #16
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Originally Posted by Denner:


WOW, I'm amazed - in these times with "I-know-it-all-types" and stupid/mean remarks ect. at the net, we still got this very decent and humane conversation here....THANK YOU!

So it's one more reason, messmer to stay with us all, please.

And to Capn: glad you got off that kind of serious medication - and keep with the natural - in my different kinds of illness that comes with age I've later tried to stay off doctors orders (that serious medication) and went for the natural - with fine results. Keep it up, bro!

And then again: Amazed. Well, bottom line not really. Since I joined PU in early 2007 folks here have been: yes, nice/great!


Amen to that, brother! This is a very decent and kind group. I certainly could not have opened up about my present woes anywhere else.

08-31-11  10:46am - 4862 days #15
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Originally Posted by Denner:


75 is nada, messmer - guess it's not the age - but some CONTEMPORARY fed up deal with most porn - looking for new material makes your day...
And again: maybe not only material, but models?????
I've been there, though just about 60, getting fed up and not getting that good ol' kick, anymore - but one thing that keep up my "libido" for porn is mainly: discovering new models - or models I did not realize earlier........and they ARE out there, friend....


Thanks, Denner, that might be a big part of the problem because recently I've been really disappointed with so many sites that are actually pretty good but tend to be too formulaic and therefore get boring very quickly. Maybe it's a combination of meds and uninteresting porn? In any case, thanks. And I do appreciate the civility of this group as well especially since I am deeply embarrassed about having become so personal in this post. I usually don't do that.

08-31-11  10:39am - 4862 days #14
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Humor is good Ik and hopefully Mess will take it that way.

But since Mess opened up the personal side of his life, then I might pop 2 cents in here. Since all is not clear, this is purely projection on my part though I do base it on my own experience.

Your spousal situation must create some stress in your life and, in fact, would be the prefect storm for depression. As we all get older I swear there are chemical imbalances in our brain and depression is one of the by-products.

I, for one, take drugs for my depression and if you subscribe to the same remedy for depression then this could be a cause of your current disinterest. Or, if you don't, then the chemical changes could be causing the disruption in your libido.

Personally, when I weened myself off my meds a couple years ago, my libido when off the charts - unfortunately, the depression worsened. So being back on them I find that my interest goes up and down.

While I have not done a lot of research I believe there are some Naturopathic approaches that can help as well as simple things like exercise. My own is taking a Vitamin E supplement, though the only change there I can see is a glow in my skin. At any rate, raising your testosterone levels would probably help.

Hopefully this shot in the dark will help provide a light toward the end of the tunnel. Wish you well in getting the big L back.


Thanks, jberryl69, wise words. I am on a ton of medications and it could be that their prolonged use is finally catching up with me. It could also be the most recent one I was prescribed. The present listlessness seems to coincide with this one. Maybe a fluke, maybe not. And, yes, there is a lot of stress.
In any case, thanks for caring.

08-31-11  10:33am - 4862 days #13
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Sorry. I didn't mean to offend or disrespect. I was trying for a bit of humor, which didn't come off.

But as Drooler suggested, things tend to go in cycles. I believe there are plenty of things that will be interesting and enjoyable in the future for you.


No need to be sorry, lk2fireone. You could not know my circumstances because I keep personal stuff down to a minimum and only made one vague reference in the past to being house-bound.

Thanks for the encouraging words and I hope that porn will once again be one of the interesting and enjoyable things down the road. One can hope! Edited on Aug 31, 2011, 10:50am

08-31-11  10:29am - 4862 days #12
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Originally Posted by Capn:


It is possible you have been 'overdosing' on it.

Lay off the intensity of this obviously very important aspect of your life, for a while.

What doesn't help is the relatively fruitless searches for content that appeals.
I suffer from that frustration myself, as I am sure you know.

As you 'dry out' I think you should find that your lust / libido will return.

( In the meantime, as regards television, perhaps a few documentaries from the Discovery, National Geographic or History Channel may be of interest.
Perhaps not exciting, but they can be fascinating. )

Cap'n.



I sincerely hope you are right, Cap'n! There is a great deal of truth to what you say. As to TV, except for the News, Discovery, National Geographic and History are pretty well the only channels I watch. Are you plagued with as many re-runs as we are in Canada?

08-30-11  03:50pm - 4863 days #5
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Unless your better half has been dosing your food with saltpeter, I would guess this disinterest is a temporary thing.

Has she been complaining that you were overly frisky?

(If I have a problem, I find it's helpful to blame someone else.)


My better half is an invalid, lk2fireone. We love each other deeply but have not been intimate in years for that reason. I hope I don't embarrass anyone for getting so personal. Just explaining why porn was so important to me .. it was the only outlet I had.

Old age can be a bitch!!

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